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Shoe Carnival, Inc. (SCVL)

Q4 2014 Earnings Call· Wed, Mar 18, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to Shoe Carnival's Fiscal Year 2014 Fourth Quarter Earnings Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded and is also being broadcast via live webcast. Any reproduction or rebroadcast of any portion of this call is expressly prohibited. This conference may contain forward-looking statements that involve a number of risk factors. These risk factors could cause the company's actual results to be materially different from those projected in such statements. These forward-looking statements should be considered in conjunction with the discussion of risk factors included in the company's SEC filings and today's press release. Investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which speak only as of today's date. The company disclaims any obligation to update any of the risk factors or to publicly announce any revisions to the forward-looking statements talked about during this conference call or contained in today's press release to reflect future events or developments. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Cliff Sifford, President, Chief Executive Officer, Chief Merchandising Officer of Shoe Carnival for opening comments. Mr. Sifford, please begin.

Clifton Sifford

Management

Thank you. And welcome to Shoe Carnival's Fourth Quarter Fiscal 2014 Earnings Conference Call. Joining me on the call today is Kerry Jackson, Senior Executive Vice President, Chief Operating and Financial Officer. For today's call, I'll give a high-level review of the company's fourth quarter performance and provide some insight into our fiscal 2015's earnings guidance. Kerry will review the fourth quarter financial results, and then we'll open the call to take your questions. We are pleased to report that our comparable store sales for the fourth quarter increased 9.5%. Our positive sales performance in the fourth quarter, along with our 2.3% comp increase in the third quarter drove a second half comparable store sales gain of 5.6%. This increase for the quarter was broad-based with all merchandise departments contributing. Store traffic for the fourth quarter was flat to the same time period last year, which is an improvement to the trend we have experienced over the past several years. A combination of moderate weather patterns, which generated strong athletic sales, along with a very strong boot trend drove sales throughout the quarter. Conversion rates at our comparable stores were up 150 basis points, which drove a mid-single-digit increase in the number of transactions. Unit -- average transaction and average unit retails all showed positive growth for the quarter. Although weather played a role in our overall comps, we saw sequential improvements in the comparable store sales increases as we moved through each month of the quarter. We believe that our key initiatives of national advertising, better brands in our women's department and our aggressive multichannel initiatives continue to bring new customers to our stores, e-commerce site and mobile touchpoints. Gross profit margin for the company increased by 10 basis points, while SG&A decreased by 140 basis points, resulting in…

W. Jackson

Management

Thank you, Cliff, and good afternoon, everyone. Net sales for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2014 were $227.6 million. That's compared to net sales of $200.3 million for the fourth quarter last year, an increase of $27.3 million. This increase in net sales was driven by an increase of $18.3 million in comparable store sales, an increase of $11.7 million from the 34 new stores opened since the beginning of the fourth quarter of fiscal 2013, partially offset by a $2.7 million decline in sales from the 12 stores closed since the beginning of fourth quarter of fiscal 2013. The gross profit margin for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2014 increased 10 basis points to 28.6%. Our merchandise margin decreased 40 basis points, while our distribution and occupancy expenses decreased 50 basis points as a percentage of sales. While we were able to leverage our buying and occupancy costs a combined 70 basis points due primarily to higher sales base, driven by our comp store sales increase and net new store growth, our distribution costs deleveraged by 20 basis points due to higher costs related to the West Coast port congestion issues. We estimate the extra costs included in the gross profit due to the port congestion decreased diluted EPS by approximately $0.03 in Q4. In our original guidance, we had estimated $0.01 of additional costs. Selling, general and administrative expenses increased $4.4 million in Q4 to $60.5 million. This increase was primarily due to a $2.5 million increase in expenses for new stores, net of expense reductions for stores that have closed since the beginning of the fourth quarter of fiscal 2013. Other significant changes in SG&A for the quarter were attributable to an increase in incentive compensation, offset by a reduction in advertising. As a percentage of net…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We'll go first to Eddie Plank with Jefferies.

Edward Plank

Analyst

I guess, could you talk a little bit more about what you're seeing with respect to the better brand strategy, where you are in that phasing and where you think you can take it going forward? Is it -- do you think you'd take it to more stores than you initially thought? And then I have a follow-up.

Clifton Sifford

Management

Okay. No problem. We started this process about 18 months ago with 75 stores. This past year, we increased the number of stores to 140. We'll probably take it somewhere between 150 and 170 this year. And we think that, in total, if you look at our total store base, we can probably get it to 200 stores. Now as we grow new stores, we'll obviously add it to most new stores. What we've seen is in the stores that have the better brands in women's, the comp increases in those stores are significantly better than the comp increases in the other stores. All stores were -- the stores without were also up for the quarter and for the season, but the stores with the better brands had significantly better increases.

Edward Plank

Analyst

Great. That's helpful. And then, I guess, just to clarify on the start of this year. You said it trailed off with the weather in the back half of February. But can you break out in more detail, like did February start off at a similar run rate as the fourth quarter? If you could just give a little bit more color around the comps between the 2 halves...

Clifton Sifford

Management

February actually started off at a better run rate than the fourth quarter, in fact, a much better run rate than the fourth quarter. And then towards the tail end of the second week, along with the third and fourth week and the 1st week of March, the weather moved in and we saw declines in our business for those particular weeks. But since last week, I guess the beginning of last week when the weather finally moderated to the more spring-like temperatures and sunshine, which we needed in the Midwest, it -- we saw a significant improvement that actually was a little better than our fourth quarter run rate. So we're feeling really good about the first quarter -- as long as the weather continues to cooperate.

Operator

Operator

We'll go next to Jill Nelson with Johnson Rice.

Jill Caruthers

Analyst

If you can talk about -- it looks like just from your previous outlook on 2015 store openings, it looks you'll have, I guess, net fewer new openings. Could you just kind of talk about that revision and some factors leading behind that?

Clifton Sifford

Management

Well, one of the things that we gained when we started using the technology for helping us find sites is that we were able to get insight to some of the store locations that we have -- that we had been struggling on and take a look at whether we felt like there would be opportunity for growth in those stores. And on the stores where there were work growth and there was a kick out or an opportunity to get out of store because of a lease-in, we went ahead and exercised that. So this particular year, we will -- we are going to close 11 stores there that we are closing, that we have identified to date 11 stores. There might be 1 or 2 more before the end of the year. But at this point, because we -- in addition to that, we have our real estate team concentrating on looking at real estate and markets that we've grown over the past couple of years. If you take a look at -- we've entered into Dallas, we entered into Detroit, we entered into, just recently, into Philadelphia and Miami. We need to backfill those stores with additional locations. So we have our real estate team pretty much focused on those 4 major cities, along with markets we currently serve.

Jill Caruthers

Analyst

Okay. And then you could just talk about -- you definitely got some good traction off your national TV ad. I mean, the first time, I think, you said store traffic was flat. Now that's probably a pretty good number for the past 2, 3 years. If you can just talk about kind of the more call-to-action messaging, your thoughts on 2015, just on that?

Clifton Sifford

Management

Well, there's no question that once we added a call-to-action to our national advertising, the customers responded. It -- we want to have a balance between the -- to tell them the Shoe Carnival brand story because we have a good story to tell and a call of action. And I think we executed that really well. Actually, beginning at back-to-school, but it really resonated with the consumer beginning in October. We feel that we -- the increases that we generated in October were pretty much industry-leading even with the department stores. And that momentum just continued through November, December and January, each month getting better and better from a comp store increase.

Jill Caruthers

Analyst

Okay. And then just last one. The port issues and disruptions hit fourth quarter by $0.03. If you could talk about kind of what you're seeing for first quarter, given it seems like it will take some time for you to catch up on the shipments.

Clifton Sifford

Management

So the biggest issue in the first quarter is the delay in products getting to the stores. We're running about 2 weeks behind. On the orders that we can control, which are some of the branded orders that we bring in from the West Coast and some of our own product label, we moved a port of entry into the East Coast, that we just couldn't take any more chances. With the hit we took in the fourth quarter of $0.03, that was a significant hit. So we said, let's just move to the East Coast so we can get the product here in a little quicker. Unfortunately, some of our major vendors didn't do that. So we're seeing some -- up to 2 weeks delay on getting some of the product in. I don't think we're any different than anyone else. In fact, we may actually have an advantage because we moved to the East Coast pretty quickly. But I don't think there is any difference in the way product is flowing in than what you've already heard on previous calls.

Operator

Operator

We'll go next to Chris Svezia with Susquehanna Financial Group.

Christopher Svezia

Analyst

So anyway, I'm curious, the comp, could you just remind us what did you do in March and April of last year in the first quarter from a comp -- what are you up against?

Clifton Sifford

Management

We are definitely going against weaker comps for the, actually, for the first half of the year. I don't have it in front of me, what the comps were for March and April is tough to say because of the Easter. Easter was in the -- at the end of the 2nd week of April last year, and this year, actually, it's at the end of the third week in April last year and this year after the first week of April. So your comp sales move around. March will be stronger than it was last year. April will be weaker from a comp comparison. But the first quarter we were -- I don't -- we were down...

W. Jackson

Management

1.7% for the quarter.

Clifton Sifford

Management

1.7%.

Christopher Svezia

Analyst

Okay. So let me ask it this way. If you were comping in the beginning of the first quarter sort of above where you were comping in the fourth quarter, then it slowed -- I guess, in aggregate, you turned negative slightly for February. And then into March, you've started seeing acceleration, you are kind of indicating maybe low single-digit comp for the first quarter. So I'm just trying to figure out, I mean, right now, are you just -- are you barely low single? Just assuming it's the same to that level, or I'm just trying to get a little more color about where you are right now...

Clifton Sifford

Management

Well, the reason we're guiding it low singles for the first quarter -- the reason we're mentioning low singles is you're really at still through the first quarter. You have concern -- I haven't heard anyone else talk about this. But is these actual issues. We don't know what's -- the weather is going to be like between now and the end of April. You can have significant weather issues between now and then. We built -- we have that built into our guidance. We feel that with -- that with what is happening today and where we've built we're going to be, that we should end the quarter, at least up low single digits.

Christopher Svezia

Analyst

So you're assuming it snows for Easter, I guess?

Clifton Sifford

Management

Well, I don't know. That's the point, Chris, is you don't know. I try to be a weather man, but it's just not as, not my expertise.

Christopher Svezia

Analyst

Do you assume e-commerce in your comp? Is it that meaningful that moved the comp needle? And is it in that comp forecast or no?

Clifton Sifford

Management

It is in the comp forecast, and it is moving the needle slightly.

Christopher Svezia

Analyst

Okay. Just from the -- the merchandise margin for the year, I assume, it's -- what are you expecting? Are you assuming it to be flat for the year or...

Clifton Sifford

Management

So basically, expecting it to be flat. And then the reason for that is -- the main reason for that is the e-commerce growth throughout the year.

Christopher Svezia

Analyst

Okay. So it seems like with your inventories being the way they are, strength in the dress business, which I wanted to ask you about. It just seems like you can have some opportunity to drive it. But I guess, what you're saying, is the e-commerce is going to more of than off-set that based on what's you are thinking?

Clifton Sifford

Management

I'm not sure I understood that. They have an opportunity to drive...

Christopher Svezia

Analyst

So you -- well, I guess I'm saying that your inventories are down. You're seeing good growth, like for example in women's dress, which I assume is higher margin than some other categories. So it seems like you had an opportunity or have an opportunity to drive higher merchandise margins, you're just aiming to tell it that way...

Clifton Sifford

Management

The offset is e-commerce. The margins in e-commerce due to, well, various reasons whether it would be from the promotional aspect of e-commerce or whether it would be the shipping costs mainly, that's the main reason it is helping drive that margin -- keep the margin flat.

Christopher Svezia

Analyst

Okay. And women's dress up double digits. And what's the difference between the stores that have the better brands and the stores that -- I mean, you're still seeing -- is that the one differentiator or as even those stores that don't have the better brands you're seeing really strong comp growth in women's dress?

Clifton Sifford

Management

Actually, that's not the differentiator because the better brands are mainly in the casual end of our business. We do have some dress shoes there, but what we're seeing is there are categories within dress, and I really don't want to get specific within the categories, if I can, but there are categories in dress that are driving really nice increases and have been for a couple of quarters.

Operator

Operator

We'll go next to Sam Poser with Sterne Agee.

Sam Poser

Analyst

So your consumer was probably hurt more with the high gas price than the economy. Are you seeing sort of that customer loosening up a little bit? And combined, can you quantify that at all? Are you seeing that?

Clifton Sifford

Management

I don't know how to quantify that, but I feel like there is a lot of moving parts in the way the businesses has turned. One, I believe, and I'm going to give you a couple of reasons, I believe that we executed the boot business as well as we ever have and probably better than many other retailers. We -- so that helped our business. That fact that gas prices went down had to play a part, the fact that weather was much more moderate in the fourth quarter than it was last year had to play a part, the fact that income taxes were not -- the refunds were not delayed had to play a part. There were all kinds of moving parts into that. But as you always tell me, Sam, it always starts and ends with the stores and with the merchandise. And I felt that merchandise was -- the merchandise selection was right. The -- definitely, the boot selection was on par. There's no other way to explain a 30-plus increase in women's boots. After we had a double-digit increase in women's boots last year, that had to be a merchandise selection opportunity.

Sam Poser

Analyst

That's crisp. Before I continue, I'm glad you listened to me. But the -- sorry, I just wanted to throw that in. The mobile app, I mean, you talked about it being -- you sort of talked about your e-commerce starting to be somewhat material. At one point, you were saying it wasn't as big as a single store. Can you give us an idea how many stores is it worth today?

Clifton Sifford

Management

No. We don't -- we're just not going to talk about the volume of our e-commerce business. I'll tell you that it is -- it was slightly accretive to our increase for the fourth quarter, and we believe that we'll beat our increases this year. But hopefully, it will be for sure.

Sam Poser

Analyst

And how much -- I mean, a lot of the sort of inflection in your comp, besides the improved execution, seem to inflect around the introduction of your mobile app. I mean -- or was that just coincidental? Or do you think there was something there?

Clifton Sifford

Management

I think, it was 2 things. But I don't believe it was the mobile app near as much as I believe it was this ship-from-store scenario that we implemented in September. Once we were able to fulfill e-commerce orders, almost at a -- very close to 100%, we -- customers began coming in, in higher numbers to our -- not only in our e-commerce site, but into our stores as well. So I think -- no, I got to believe that it was -- I believe and I wish I could quantify it to this. I believe that our national advertising played a part to get the customers not only in our stores, but in our e-commerce site. I believe that the digital advertising that we added to our e-commerce store as the business improved drove customers not only to our e-commerce store, but to our stores. So I think once we launched the ship-from-store scenario that was the real turning point of our business.

Sam Poser

Analyst

And then I've got 2 more -- a few more things. Number one, what percent of the orders have you been able to reroute to the West -- to the East Coast?

Clifton Sifford

Management

Well, it would be our private label and anything that we control from the West Coast, and that would be somewhere less than 20%.

Sam Poser

Analyst

Okay. And then what type of product -- I mean, are you seeing that you're seasonal product is jammed up? Are you seeing it more -- more athletic basic products that's jammed up?

Clifton Sifford

Management

I think it's pretty much across the board. I mean, branded vendors, whether it be in the athletic side or in the nonathletic side, are all struggling to get product through the ports. It's not -- it's definitely not just us. And...

Sam Poser

Analyst

No. No, I understand that. But my point is that you're going to have less seasonality risk if some sneakers got delayed 2 weeks. But if some sandals got delayed, there could be significantly more seasonality risk. That's more my point.

Clifton Sifford

Management

And you would think that, but if everyone's sandals are delayed, all it does is delay the ability for the customers to buy sandals by a couple of weeks. So whether it would be us or one of our competitors. So I will tell you that our sandal business is pretty good. So...

Sam Poser

Analyst

Okay. And then 2 more things. The earlier Easter, does that help jump start the season, assuming you have the inventories support it theoretically?

Clifton Sifford

Management

I have heard it a couple of ways. Some people say that a later Easter as better for the business because it's warmer. But I don't know the answer to that, Sam. I like our earlier Easter, but I think -- I know I've heard it and experienced it both ways. It is really -- the first quarter is all about weather. If the weather stays like it is, like it has been in the past 2 weeks, we'll have a really nice Easter.

Sam Poser

Analyst

Okay. And then lastly, the ship -- you talked about the shipping costs hurting you with your e-commerce. But -- and when you can ship from store, but -- and the margin's hurting on e-commerce. But if theoretically, if you can ship from store, doesn't that mean you can go to the store -- like if you have a $50 shoe that isn't available that you're pulling from a store, and don't you pull from the store that's -- one of the reasons you pull it from the store is because they may be at the biggest risk for selling it at a markdown, so you end up with -- get a regular price sale out of that where something else might -- it might help the margin pulling from the right store?

Clifton Sifford

Management

That is certainly the strategy. But again, part of the margin issuance is not the price in which we sell a product but the expense, getting the product to the customer. So imagine this, if you -- a customer comes in and buys 2 or 3 pair, unless you can ship all 3 of those pair from the same store, then you have an increased cost in shipping.

Sam Poser

Analyst

Are you looking to get to a big-enough size with the e-commerce platform a year or 2, whenever it is, to be able to work more closely, let's say, with UPS or somebody to get different rates? Does that all develop at it scales up?

Clifton Sifford

Management

Well, it does develop, but we have pretty doggone good rates today. We -- I don't want to get into what we pay, but we have good rates.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We'll go next to Jeff Stein with Northcoast Research.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

This is [indiscernible] calling in for Jeff. Based on the comp guidance you guys gave today, can you guys talk a little bit about all the various components of it, AUR, traffic and mix? And secondly, on wage pressures, can you guys just talk about wage expense going forward, how we should model that and how we should look at that going forward in the next year or 2?

Clifton Sifford

Management

Well, from a traffic standpoint, traffic was basically flat for the quarter. We had increases in our average unit retail. We had increases at -- let's say, conversion rates were flat -- conversion rates were up 150 basis points, and we had an increase in transaction units. So we've showed positive growth on most metrics, so from a transaction standpoint. As far as -- you asked about wage inflation?

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Yes. I did.

Clifton Sifford

Management

It's obviously a concern, but so far, we've been able to absorb whatever wage inflation we have experienced. As far as what happens next year or in the year after, I really can't address that at this point because I really don't know what's going to happen a year or 2 down the road. But the wage inflation that has taken place for this year, we have been able to absorb.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

And as for the comp, I was looking at about the more the comp guidance for 2015, maybe what you're looking at for mix and traffic and AUR for the -- when you look at the comp guidance?

Clifton Sifford

Management

Well, I think AURs are going to be flattish, maybe up low single digits. We haven't seen a lot of cost increases in the product that we sell. But I think that we believe that we're going to see a pretty strong athletic business based strictly on what we have seen so far this year and as we went through the latter part of last year. We think that we have an opportunity for a very strong sample season because of some of the things that we've seen work so far in this year and actually, at the latter part of last year as well. So getting through the first half, strong sandals and athletic and our dress shoes, we expect to see a continuing comp store increase there.

Operator

Operator

And there are no further questions at this time. I will turn the conference back over for closing remarks.

Clifton Sifford

Management

All right, in closing, I want to thank the entire Shoe Carnival team that worked hard to deliver great product and excellent customer service, which led to a record annual sales. And I want to thank you for joining us today, and we look forward to speaking to you about our first quarter results on our next call in May. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

This does conclude today's conference. Thank you for your participation.