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ScanSource, Inc. (SCSC)

Q4 2019 Earnings Call· Tue, Aug 20, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the ScanSource quarterly earnings conference call. All lines have been placed in a listen-only mode until the question-and-answer session. Today's call is being recorded. If anyone has any objections, you may disconnect at this time. I would now like to turn the call over to Mary Gentry, Vice President, Treasurer and Investor Relations. Ma'am, you may begin.

Mary Gentry

Management

Thank you and welcome to ScanSource's earnings conference call for the quarter and year ended June 30, 2019. With me today are Mike Baur, our Chairman and CEO; and Gerry Lyons, our CFO. We will review our operating results for the quarter and year and then take your questions. A CFO commentary that accompanies our comments and webcast is posted in the Investor Relations section of our website. Certain statements made on this call including our expectations for sales, operating performance, earnings, fair value of contingent consideration, operating cash flow, tax rates, interest expense, planned divestitures and results for the first quarter of fiscal year 2020 are forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from such statements. These risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to, those factors identified in the earnings release that we put out today and in ScanSource's Form 10-K for the year ended June 30, 2018, as filed with the SEC. Any forward-looking statements represent our views only as of today and should not be relied upon as representing our views as of any subsequent date. ScanSource disclaims any duty to update any forward-looking statements to reflect actual results or changes in expectations as required by law. We will be discussing both GAAP and non-GAAP results during our call and have provided reconciliations between these amounts in the CFO commentary and in our press release. These reconciliations can also be found on our website and have been filed with our Form 8-K. Mike Baur will now begin our discussion with an overview of our results.

Mike Baur

Management

Thanks, Mary, and thank you for joining us today. In looking at our financial results for the quarter, we did not finish our fiscal year as strongly we as started. For fiscal year 2019, we delivered record net sales of $3.9 billion, GAAP EPS of $2.24 and record non-GAAP EPS up 8% year-over-year. During the fiscal year, following our strategic plan, we began making significant investments in our employee teams, systems and processes as well as developing new digital tools to enhance our value to our sales channel and our suppliers. As we began fiscal year 2020, we have identified six key growth initiatives for the year. First, we believe we have the best sales channels to grow the collaboration business, including unified communications contact center and cloud. For example, our Cisco partners have embraced the new digital solutions offers with WebEx in a significant way. Our Cisco subscription business has more than doubled year-over-year. Now with our new CASCADE cloud platform from intY, we are adding capabilities to accelerate our Cisco collaboration subscription business for our sales partners with new billing choices. Second, strong market demand for video surveillance is expected to continue to grow at double-digit rates during 2020. We believe our channel sales partners represent the best routes to market for the leading video camera suppliers in the industry and the demand for video management software continues to develop. Our third area of growth is in the Intelisys cloud business, which continues to grow at 60% year-over-year for fiscal year 2019 with our top cloud suppliers. We are the number one or number two master agent over the majority of the unified communications as a service providers including RingCentral, 8x8 and Mitel. Fourth, for POS portal in fiscal year 2020, we see excellent payments opportunities and margins…

Gerry Lyons

Management

Thanks Mike. We had a disappointing finish to our fiscal year with sales and EPS below our expected range for the quarter. We missed our forecast range primarily from lower sales volumes. Earlier today, we announced the planned divestiture of certain physical product businesses outside of the United States, Canada and Brazil. These planned divestitures had a fiscal year 2019 net sales of $623 million and at June 30, 2019, had working capital investment of $205 million. The non-GAAP operating income for these planned divestitures was approximately breakeven for the full fiscal year 2019. Consolidated net sales for the fourth quarter totaled $961 million, down 3% year-over-year or down 2% on an organic basis. Foreign currency translation negatively impacted sales by $15 million. The lower sales volume reflected lower big deals that we believe were delayed not lost. We've been struggling to grow certain areas of our business due to significant headwinds from our premise-based communications suppliers. Additionally, during the fourth quarter, we missed some sales from partners who were impacted by our sales team transformation efforts in North America. Gross profit dollars for the quarter decreased 3% year-over-year consistent with the lower sales volume. Our fourth quarter fiscal year 2020 gross profit margin was 11.4% consistent with the year ago period and down from the previous quarter. As we indicated last quarter, the previous quarter margin included higher vendor programs which we did not expect to continue at those levels. SG&A expenses increased $1.1 million from the prior year quarter to $78 million for the fourth quarter fiscal year 2019. We've made significant investments in operating expenses to support the planned growth for fiscal year 2020. These expenses were fully realized last quarter as we executed our new sales transformation plan called One ScanSource. We will gain leverage on…

Mike Baur

Management

After our strategic review of our business, we are executing our plan for higher margins and higher growth. We are being driven by a commitment to shift from supplier driven initiatives to an end-customer driven growth strategy that is serviced by a network of knowledgeable channel sales partners. By offering digital and physical solutions with value-added services, we believe we will be at the center of the solution delivery channel. The plans we have for fiscal year 2020 will showcase the results of these efforts. We will now open it up for questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, sir. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from line of Adam Tindle of Raymond James. Your line is open.

Madison Suhr

Analyst

Good afternoon. This is Madison on for Adam and thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to start -- you have several long-term financial targets out there with 2Q ones being 3.5% to 4% operating margins and mid-teens ROIC. So how should we think about operating margin and ROIC after the divestiture given this was likely diluted for these metrics?

Gerry Lyons

Management

Yes, hi, Madison. This is Gerry. So, it is -- we certainly think that our operating margin can get to that 3.5% that's a more short-term sort of outlook. But as we said previously on the ROIC, it's just going to take some time to get that number up to a higher number, mid-teens. So, we've indicated we finished at 12% in order to get that number up to where we need -- we're going to need another 12 to 18, 24 months, something like that.

Madison Suhr

Analyst

And then just as a quick follow-up, I wanted to clarify. Are you only pursuing a sale of the non-digital distribution business? Or is there a chance that this could potentially cause a write-down? And if so, how much would that be?

Gerry Lyons

Management

Yes, so what we've announced at the moment is that there's a -- as the planned sale and that that’s the only plan that we have at the moment.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Keith Housum with Northcoast Research. Your line is open.

Keith Housum

Analyst · Northcoast Research. Your line is open.

Good afternoon everyone. You guys -- as we look at the POS barcoding segment, obviously some been very disappointing results there. How much of that was impacted by the businesses that you're going to be divesting versus the businesses that are going to be retained?

Gerry Lyons

Management

Yes, Keith, we did have some disappointing results in the barcode segment. I think we indicated on the call that, most of that was just lower sales volumes, and part of that was in the really, all geographies really lower sales volume. So, we're expecting that we’re going to improve in both segments based upon executing on these planned divestitures.

Keith Housum

Analyst · Northcoast Research. Your line is open.

Post divestitures, what will be the impact to your vendor line up? I mean, is there any risk to the existing relationships that you have in terms of the ability to earn rebates going forward or volume incentives or any of that nature?

Mike Baur

Management

Keith, it’s Mike. We're certainly not expecting that because today we get really no program benefits across geographies. All the suppliers negotiate terms and conditions and rebate targets based on what we do in a particular geography. So for example, our revenue in Europe does not affect our rebates and programs and benefits in North America and vice versa.

Keith Housum

Analyst · Northcoast Research. Your line is open.

Got it, appreciate it. Last question, if I may. Again, inventory levels were extremely high and to be honest, I thought you guys would have worked down a little bit more than you did. I understand sales were disappointing in the quarter, but is there anything that's preventing the inventory from being worked down further? Or is it just a matter of the sales got to catch up and you got way too much? And it really was one or two vendors or is it really across the entire platform?

Gerry Lyons

Management

Yes, so it certainly is a bit of a sales issue, but we also indicated that we were opportunistic in some of our buys. So, I wouldn’t say it's across the board. It’s more pointed at certain places. But we are absolutely committed to driving those numbers down, partly because we are going to have higher sales volume and partly because we’re going to do things little differently than we have in the past.

Keith Housum

Analyst · Northcoast Research. Your line is open.

I apologize I'll sneak one more here. What gives you the confidence that you guys are going to have higher sales volume in the 1Q compared with what you had in the 4Q?

Gerry Lyons

Management

One of the things that we indicated to, Keith, is the sales structure changes that we made. We actually started that a year ago in July, and we really phased in a bigger group of our customers into that new sales structure in March. And so, we recognized even then that even though we had learned a lot in the nine months prior, once we turned on this new structure, which really was a big transformation for our go-to-market. And by combining five sales forces into one, there was definitely some disruption and some customers said, hey, I now have a new salesperson or sales team, how does this work? And so, we believe that some of the revenue definitely was lost in the quarter and that we'll get that back once the new sales team start to perform. We believe our customers based on feedback, like this new structure. They maybe didn't understand it at first, but we believe that they will actually -- they'll benefit from it and we will too.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of William Gibson of ROTH Capital Partners. Your line is open.

William Gibson

Analyst

Thank you. With regard to the divested businesses, could you give us a little more color on what products are involved?

Gerry Lyons

Management

Sure. So, in Europe, it's both segments, so it's both communications products and our point-of-sale barcode, primarily barcode products in Europe. And in Latin America it's the same as well, so it's both communications and barcodes.

William Gibson

Analyst

And in terms of use of funds, once they're divested, is that you're going to pay down any debt?

Gerry Lyons

Management

Well, yes, we certainly will pay down debt. We also have other investments that we want to make. These regions aren't performing at the rate that we need them to perform, so we're going to invest some of those dollars in the higher performing areas that we still have, which would be the U.S. as we've indicated and Brazil as we have indicated.

William Gibson

Analyst

Thank you. And then, one last question. When you report first quarter results, well, the businesses to be divested show as discontinued operations or will they be included?

Gerry Lyons

Management

Yes. Well, so there is some -- there's a bunch of accounting guidance around that and there is a number of tests that we have to meet, and at this point it's not clear whether we can meet those tests. So, they will either be broken out as discontinued operations or we will create some sort of non-GAAP reconciliation to get you from what we report to a non-GAAP without these operations.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Chris McGinnis of Sidoti & Company. Your line is open.

Chris McGinnis

Analyst

Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. I think just a follow-up around the divestitures. What would have been the organic growth I guess for 2019, if you look back and x out the planned divestitures?

Gerry Lyons

Management

Hold on one second. Let me find that piece of paper, Chris. It would have been around 3% organic.

Chris McGinnis

Analyst

And so I guess indicated by the -- or what Mike was saying about that 5% to 7% I think for the share is maybe the targeted range for full year. What's the biggest components of the improvement you're expecting on the growth rate?

Gerry Lyons

Management

Yes, I think what we identified at the first part of our comments today, Chris, were these six growth areas, and we believe that these growth areas are some that are very important and that are growing at much higher rates. And we gave the example of the collaboration area and specifically the Cisco WebEx opportunity. And what's interesting is, how quickly the opportunities for selling subscription, revenue for example is doing well, and probably much better than we were actually reflecting in our results from last year. So that was one example. Obviously, the video surveillance another example we've been talking about for a few years now continues to do -- to be growing at better than traditional market rates. And so, when we look at that, we had Intelisys, POS Portal, obviously our new CASCADE platform, and then what we call digital tools in general. We believe we have the opportunity to take market share by helping our channel partners, make more money, selling products and services and software and digital from ScanSource next year. We believe that will lead us to take market share and that's a better than 5% strategy if we do that well.

Chris McGinnis

Analyst

And can you just maybe elaborate a little bit on what CASCADE brings to you? And how that changes you going to -- like that or helps you with that change in strategy go-to-market? Thanks.

Mike Baur

Management

Yes, sure. One of the key areas that we needed as part of our strategy was a platform, so that a sales partner one of our VARs, or one of our agents, or any of those types of sales VARs could go to a central place and place an order. First, they have to be able to configure what they call provision software, and use Microsoft as an example. So Microsoft Azure, or 365, or their CRM or any of their software products today, you have to have a configuration tool. And so, we looked at building one years ago, we decided a few years ago, we need to buy one. To build one was going to take us too long and we weren't sure it'd be right place to invest our resources. So, we have a platform that lets us work with many suppliers, Microsoft one example to configure provision the software that a customer needs and in customer needs. Then you have to be able to bill it and either in the Intelisys model, we had a billing model where the suppliers build the software or the solution of the connectivity. We had a lot of VARs that want to build the software, or they want us to build it. So what CASCADE is as they're billing, it's a configuration platform, but also a billing platform. And then following that, it's also a way to keep up and track all of the products you've sold. So then we had this tool called Partner Insights that actually takes the data that we are using to provide this provisioning in sales and allow a sales partner to be much more knowledgeable about what products a customer owns. And when the renewals are, how do you sell them more in the future based on the growth of their business. So, this becomes a real important tool to a channel partner. And that's why we believe this is significant and will impact us positively in 2020.

Chris McGinnis

Analyst

And maybe one last question, I don't know if, how if you could break this up. How much is now from the business maybe around the services? I know it's been a few years now on this investment. So can you disclose that yet or is it still maybe not enough to disclose?

Mike Baur

Management

Well, we're looking at different ways we can disclose it. And we looked at the example we gave in our call around the Cisco WebEx and talked about it doubling in revenue year-over-year, we want to be more clear than that, if we can. And so, we're trying to gather the right metrics. And also some of this new digital revenue comes in at as a commission and more as a 100% margin, much like the Intelisys model works. So, you don't get the benefit necessarily at the top line as you do at the margin line. So, we do have some of the products that may look like they're being sold in a subscription model, but still aren’t. So, it's kind of a combination of how suppliers and our channel partners want to purchase and have someone build the product. So, we are working on that, we hope to give you more clarity on that maybe as soon as next quarter.

Chris McGinnis

Analyst

Thanks for taking my questions and good luck in Q1.

Mike Baur

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] We have a follow-up question from Keith Housum of Northcoast Research. Your line is open.

Keith Housum

Analyst

Thanks guys. Mike, you've outlined those six strategies or six catalysts for growth going forward. Can you quantify how much revenue those six catalysts kind of provide?

Mike Baur

Management

Not today, but we’ll certainly be talking about it more over the next few quarters. We want to definitely be able to give you more insight into that though, but this was the first opportunity we had to really refresh our growth areas and we thought this would be a great place to start. But stay tuned, we’ll give you more in the future.

Keith Housum

Analyst

Okay, got it. And then to follow up that. Gerry, you mentioned that with the cash you'll get from the divestitures here, you guys will make investments in the growth areas. I guess, will these be investments that we'll see come through the income statement? Or that could these be through additional acquisitions?

Gerry Lyons

Management

Keith, I would think there will be more through the income statement because I think, if when we look at our -- look at our portfolio now, we think you’ve seen our investor slides, right. You’ve seen things that we’ve outlined. We think now we’ve basically filled most of those holes or all the holes that we needed to fill. So, we’re not really expecting that we’re going to need to make any other acquisition investments.

Keith Housum

Analyst

Okay, so is it too early to say that operating margins going forward will be 3.5% or higher or, or no?

Gerry Lyons

Management

No, I think with Madison’s question earlier, I indicated that we've got the short-term, we should be able to get to their -- short-term, yes.

Keith Housum

Analyst

Okay, even with those investments, okay.

Gerry Lyons

Management

Yes.

Keith Housum

Analyst

Okay, thank you guys.

Gerry Lyons

Management

You're welcome.

Mike Baur

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And at this time, I’d like to turn the call back over Chairman and CEO, Mike Baur for any closing remarks. Sir?

Mike Baur

Management

Thank you. Appreciate you joined us today. We expect to hold our next conference call to discuss our September 30th quarterly results on Tuesday, November 12, 2019.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference. Thank you for your participation and have a wonderful day. You may disconnect your lines at this time.