Yes. Great question, Mike. And let me start with, the first half of the year was a decent year, not -- I'm not happy with the first half. It could have been better, but it could have been significantly worse if you think about where the chemical industry is. But if you think of the first half, we are growing adjusted EBITDA in Surfactants, in Polymers and Specialty Products is only a timing thing. We shipped a lot of the pharma business last Q2 in 2024, and we are going to ship it now in the second half of 2025. So if you exclude that, we are growing adjusted EBITDA in the 3 businesses that we have, which is remarkable and it's a good base to start with. Now, let's go deeper into Surfactants because that's where your question was. And if you think about the $83 million of adjusted EBITDA in the first half for Surfactants, of course, we are not happy with $83 million and 5% growth. But if you think about the one-timers that we had as we were talking all the start-up of Pasadena and Millsdale and the EPA plus the raw material situation, 5% growth is a decent number. What I will tell you is when you think about the raw material impact, you see coconut oil at $3,000 per metric ton, which used to be $1,000 per metric ton 18 months ago. We are still catching up on our price execution. We had -- everybody knows we had another price execution at the end of the quarter in June. So that, of course, is not reflected in the quarter. So the true norm that I see instead of that $83 million that you saw for the first half in adjusted net income, I see $90 million, $93 million, right? That's where the Surfactant business should be. And of course, from that $90 million plus, that our challenge now is how we're going to grow from that $90 million plus with Pasadena savings with the pricing kicking in and all of that. So I feel good about what the team is delivering there are lags and we cannot execute and we cannot recover everything overnight, but I feel good about the trajectory that we had in the first half. And I think what we executed and what we are executing in the next few quarters with productivity, with pricing, with Pasadena will allow this business to get where the EBITDA needs to be. And you know we don't provide guidance, but you can see that I'm telling you 90 plus should be the number in the first half. And on top of that, we need to deliver more pricing and Pasadena savings.