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Southside Bancshares, Inc. (SBSI)

Q1 2023 Earnings Call· Tue, Apr 25, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Southside Bancshares, Incorporated First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Ms. Lindsey Bailes, Vice President of Investor Relations. Ms. Bailes, please begin.

Lindsey Bailes

Analyst

Thank you, Howard. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Southside Bancshares' first quarter 2023 earnings call. A transcript of today's call will be posted on southside.com under Investor Relations. During today's call and other disclosures and presentations, I will remind you that any forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties. Factors that could materially change our current forward-looking assumptions are described in our earnings release and our Form 10-K. Joining me today are Lee Gibson, President and CEO; and Julie Shamburger, CFO. First, Lee will share his comments on the quarter and then Julie will give an overview of our financial results. I will now turn the call over to Lee.

Lee Gibson

Analyst

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Southside Bancshares' first quarter earnings call for 2023. This morning, we reported net income of $26 million, earnings per share of $0.83, a return on average assets of 1.38%, a return on average tangible common equity of 19.36% and continued strong asset quality metrics. On a linked quarter basis, our loan growth was less than originally anticipated. This was due to anticipated first quarter loan closing delays now expected to close in the second quarter and a few payoffs. During the quarter, we also lost loan opportunities due to our underwriting requiring lower leverage than our competitors. That said, we have no plans to change our time tested credit underwriting standards. Because of our healthy pipeline, loans we anticipate funding during the second quarter projected construction loan advances and the markets we serve, we are still budgeting for overall loan growth for 2023 in the high-single digits. Increased competition for deposits largely accounted for the 19 basis point decrease in our net interest margin. Pricing competition from both financial institutions and U.S. Treasury Bills required us to adjust our pricing more than originally anticipated. Additionally, as uncertainty in the banking industry unfolded, we implemented measures to further enhance our already very solid liquidity position by maintaining additional cash at Fed at a very small spread and pledging additional securities at Fed increasing availability there. Solely to enhance our interest rate risk profile, we utilized the Fed's new bank term funding program, and as of yesterday, had obtained $287 million of one-year term funding at an average rate of 4.47% [debt] and our discretion can be re-priced or repaid at any time without penalty. We anticipate the net interest margin will continue to be pressured as competition for deposits remains high. Our interest rate swaps and fair value swaps continue to provide a hedge to offset a portion of the potential margin compression. Linked quarter deposits, net of brokered and public fund deposits decreased 3.4% during the quarter, 78% of which occurred prior to the banking industry events in early March. Over half of the decline in our total deposits linked quarter was a result of changing a portion of our swap funding from brokered deposits to lower cost fed borrowings resulting in $192 million reduction in brokered deposits. Given the recent banking events, I think it's important to point out that as of March 31, 2023, 73.5% of our deposits, our FDIC insured are fully collateralized. In addition, the average balance of our granular deposit account base is only $30,000. While we are keeping a watchful eye on the economy as more economists forecast increasing chances of a recession, we are glad to report that the markets we serve remain healthy and continue to grow. I look forward to answering your questions following Julie's remarks, and I will now turn the call over to Julie.

Julie Shamburger

Analyst

Thank you, Lee. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our call today. We are pleased to report a solid start to 2023 with first quarter net income of $26 million and diluted earnings per common share of $0.83, a decrease of $0.04 or 4.6% linked quarter. Net income decreased by $1.6 million or 5.9%, driven by a decrease in net interest income, partially offset by a decrease in provision for credit losses. In light of events occurring in the banking industry since March, we included several additional disclosures in our earnings release, which showed the granularity of our deposit base with an overall average balance of $30,000 well below FDIC insurance levels. We estimate an insured deposits of 26.5% as of March 31 with the exclusion of public funds, which are fully collateralized in Southside owned deposits. Deposits decreased $359.8 million or 5.8% on a linked quarter basis. Over half of the decrease was due to our brokered deposits of $191.8 million as we transitioned some of our funding of cash flow hedge swaps to more advantageous funding sources. The remaining decrease in deposits was related primarily to customer non-maturity deposits with a large percentage of the outflow occurring prior to March as mentioned in our earnings release. Our loan portfolio remained consistent at $4.15 billion linked quarter, and the weighted average rate of new loans funded during the quarter was approximately 6.97%. We reported strong asset quality metrics this quarter with non-performing assets of $3.2 million or 0.04% of total assets at March 31, a decrease of $7.7 million linked quarter, primarily related to the adoption of an accounting pronouncement around the recognition and measurement of troubled debt restructures. At March 31, our allowance for loan losses as a percentage of total loans was 0.87%, a slight decrease compared…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question or comment comes from the line of Brett Rabatin from Hovde Group. Mr. Rabatin, your line is open.

Brett Rabatin

Analyst

Hey. Good morning, everyone.

Lee Gibson

Analyst

Good morning.

Brett Rabatin

Analyst

Wanted to first ask, you obviously reduced the duration on the securities portfolio linked quarter with the movements. Can you just talk – can we go back over just what you bought and sold during the quarter, and then just does that yield on that portfolio? What the matriculation on the securities book might be from here from a yield perspective?

Lee Gibson

Analyst

Okay. We sold primarily municipal securities and some mortgage-backed securities. And then in terms of purchases, it was largely the T-bills that we purchased. I think that when we look at the duration, we also take a look at the duration of our fair value swaps, and we didn't include that in that duration calculation that Julie mentioned. But if we were to include that and take a look at the real duration risk that we have with the fair value swaps in place, it drops it to just under 4% – I mean four years – not 4%, four years. So going forward, obviously the T-bills will roll-off this quarter, so that's approximately $300 million. And then we'll have some additional things roll-off, but that's not going to be substantial in nature what is going to roll off.

Brett Rabatin

Analyst

Okay.

Lee Gibson

Analyst

But one thing that the one – and then I want to point out that the fair value swaps also right now are adding a little over a $1 million in net interest income to the overall securities income.

Brett Rabatin

Analyst

Okay. And then maybe just any outlook for the margin from here. I'm curious how you think about the deposit betas from current levels. The funding costs have been managed pretty well. But some folks are expecting an uptick. Just curious, Julie, how you feel about the margin from 1Q levels?

Lee Gibson

Analyst

I think, as I said, I think it's going to continue to be pressured. Competition for deposits was already pretty intense in the first quarter. And then with the events that occurred in early March with the closures of a couple of banks that intensified even further. So we don't expect that to change anytime soon and we expect competition for deposits to remain very intense and growing deposits would be an expensive proposition at this point in time.

Brett Rabatin

Analyst

Okay. And then the other question I had, Lee, was you mentioned high single-digit loan growth from here or maybe that's for the full-year. I wasn't quite sure what that guidance was, so I apologize, I may have misunderstood that. But just I want to make sure I understood that. And then if that's a function of – you talked about how you were missing some deals due to your credit stringent nature, and maybe that might have an impact on what you get versus what you don't, but just wanted to maybe get a little better color on the guidance. If that entails, you think the market comes back to you in terms of loan underwriting standards, or if you just feel like there's stuff out there that you'll be able to get as others pull back on credit?

Lee Gibson

Analyst

We're still winning loan deals. It's just that this quarter was a little unusual in that we really hadn't seen leverage requirements come into play in turn – usually it was rate driven. This quarter we did see some deals that we required a lower leverage than competition did, and we're never concerned when we lose loans based on leverage. But the guidance, I gave was for the entire year of 2023, we're still anticipating when you look at the end of 2022 and you look at the end of 2023 that based on what we know today and our pipeline that we're still anticipating high single-digit loan growth for the entire year of 2023.

Brett Rabatin

Analyst

Okay. Great. Appreciate all the color.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Brady Gailey from KBW. Standby. Mr. Gailey, your line is open.

Brady Gailey

Analyst

Hey. Thank you. Good morning, guys.

Lee Gibson

Analyst

Good morning, Brady.

Julie Shamburger

Analyst

Good morning.

Brady Gailey

Analyst

So high single-digit loan growth, what about deposit growth? I mean, I know, first quarter was a unique quarter. But do you think that you could see deposit growth? Is there more downside to deposits? How are you all thinking about that? I know your loan deposit ratio is fairly low at about 71%. So you definitely have room there. But how are you thinking about deposits.

Lee Gibson

Analyst

My personal opinion is I think deposit growth is going to be challenging. We do anticipate – I mean, we don't anticipate. We are expecting in the second quarter the one of the public fund depositories that we have under contract is going to be receiving bond proceeds of about $173 million. So we will receive those deposits during the quarter. But in terms of deposits, net of public funds and net of brokered deposits, I think remaining static is going to be a win right now based on the competition for deposits out there. Unless we're just willing to pay even more than what we're paying now in terms of deposit betas. So I wouldn't – I'm not looking for substantial growth. And really I'm kind of looking at making sure that we're able to retain the deposits that we currently have.

Brady Gailey

Analyst

All right. And then your Southside remains pretty active in the share repurchase program. Is there any way we've seen other companies that have paused the buyback for now? I know you guys have a very safe balance sheet and plenty of capital. But should we expect the buyback to continue to be active? I know it has been so far in April, but should we expect that to continue into the future?

Lee Gibson

Analyst

Julie, how many shares do we have left?

Julie Shamburger

Analyst

I think we got 600 left.

Lee Gibson

Analyst

Julie is checking on the number of shares. I think it's safe to say that based on where the price of the shares are, that we have about – as Julie said, we have around 400,000 shares left that we could purchase. I don't anticipate any changes in what we're doing. Now whether we'll authorize additional repurchase after that, I'm not ready to opine on that.

Brady Gailey

Analyst

And that 400,000 that’s left in the authorization, is that as of the end of March or does that incorporate the shares that have been repurchased so far in April?

Lee Gibson

Analyst

That incorporates the shares that have been repurchased so far in April.

Brady Gailey

Analyst

Okay. All right. Great. Thank you for the color.

Lee Gibson

Analyst

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question or comment comes from the line of Mr. Matt Olney from Stephens. Mr. Olney, your line is now open.

Matt Olney

Analyst

Good morning. Just looking for some additional commentary around…

Lee Gibson

Analyst

Good morning, Matt.

Matt Olney

Analyst

Good morning. On some of the loan growth, just what you're seeing as far as some of the average yields that you're putting on the balance sheet?

Lee Gibson

Analyst

Yes. Julie, stated that the average yield in the first quarter was 697. So I would assume with the slight debt increases, we've seen that likely will be right around 7%, maybe somewhere between 7% and 7.25% in the second quarter.

Matt Olney

Analyst

Okay. And then, I didn't see in the press release and maybe I just missed it. Do you have what the unrealized position is or the AOCI position as of March 31?

Lee Gibson

Analyst

Yes. Julie is grabbing that.

Julie Shamburger

Analyst

It was 133.3 million. Yes, I think, I believe equity is just stated as a total in the earnings release.

Matt Olney

Analyst

Oh, okay. And that number you provided, that was, which one was that? Is that the AOCI position as of March 31?

Julie Shamburger

Analyst

Yes. 133.3 million.

Matt Olney

Analyst

Got it. Okay, great. Thanks everybody.

Lee Gibson

Analyst

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. I'm sure no additional questions in the queue at this time. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Lee Gibson, President and CEO.

Lee Gibson

Analyst

Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We appreciate the opportunity to answer your questions along with your interest in Southside Bancshares. In closing, we remain excited about our prospects for the remainder of 2023, and look forward to reporting second quarter results to you during our next earnings call in July. Thank you again.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This concludes the presentation. You may now disconnect. Everyone have a wonderful day.