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Southside Bancshares, Inc. (SBSI)

Q1 2020 Earnings Call· Sat, May 9, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the Southside Bancshares' Incorporation's First Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Lindsey Bibby, Vice President-Investor Relations. Thank you. Please go ahead, madam.

Lindsey Bibby

Analyst

Thank you, Hadi. Good morning everyone and welcome to Southside Bancshares' First Quarter 2020 Earnings Call. A transcript of today's call will be posted on, southside.com under Investor Relations. During today's call and other disclosures and presentations, I will remind you that any forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties. Factors that could materially change our current forward-looking assumptions are described in our earnings release and our Form 10-K. Joining me today, are Lee Gibson, President and CEO and Julie Shamburger, CFO. First, Lee will share his comments around the COVID-19 pandemic and an update on our securities portfolio. Then Julie will give an overview, of our financial results. I will now turn the call over to, Lee.

Lee Gibson

Analyst

Thank you, Lindsey. I'd like to welcome everyone. And thank you for listening to our First Quarter 2020 Call. Like everyone else on this call, when COVID-19 became a reality in the United States, it quickly changed our daily routines, commerce, methods of conducting business and the economic forecast. We feel very fortunate, that we entered this crisis from a position of strength, with strong asset quality, capital, liquidity, and a low level of nonperforming assets. In addition, Southside has a deep experienced management team, adept at navigating challenges. For the first quarter ended March 31st, 2020, we reported net income of $4 million and earnings per share of $0.12, after recording a $25.2 million provision for credit losses. During the quarter, we adopted the accounting standard, often referred to as CECL, which resulted in an increase in Southside's allowance for loan losses, to $53.6 million from $24.8 million, at the end of the fourth quarter 2019. We believe this significantly higher allowance, further enhances our position to successfully navigate through, potential unexpected outcomes. One of the assumptions that heavily impacts CECL results, for a given quarter, is the economic forecast. We utilize the Moody's economic forecast, with their recommended scenario allocations, all of which at quarter end anticipated a significant economic downturn resulting from the pandemic. Our provision for credit losses, recorded this quarter was largely a result of these negative economic forecasts. On a linked-quarter basis, non-performing assets as a percent of total assets decreased to 0.24%. And our tax equivalent net interest margin improved five basis points. During the first quarter we had solid loan growth of $32.8 million. However, given the negative economic forecast and uncertainty, surrounding when the economy may begin to recover, other than short-term PPP loan growth, we do not anticipate meaningful loan…

Julie Shamburger

Analyst

Thank you, Lee. Good morning everyone and welcome to our call this morning. Despite the adoption of CECL and the COVID-19 pandemic-related disruptions beginning in March, we reported net income of $4 million for the first quarter, which includes the $25.2 million in provision for credit losses, primarily in response to the economic uncertainties surrounding COVID-19. We reported diluted earnings per share of $0.12 per share, as of March 31st, 2020, a decrease of $0.39 per share or 76.5%, on a linked-quarter basis. We implemented CECL during the first quarter, resulting in a day-one cumulative effect adjustment that decreased retained earnings by $7.8 million, net of tax. The adjustment was the result of a $5.3 million increase in the allowance for loan losses, from $24.8 million at December 31, 2019 to $30.1 million upon adoption, including $231,000 for purchased loans with credit deterioration. And $4.8 million increase to the allowance for off-balance sheet credit exposures reported in other liabilities in our consolidated balance sheet. With the implementation of CECL and expected impacts resulting from COVID-19, the allowance for loan losses increased by $28.8 million to 1.49% of total loans as of first quarter compared to 0.69% of total loans at December 31 2019. Our nonperforming assets were $17.4 million essentially flat linked quarter with just a $46,000 decrease. However, due to the increase in our balance sheet, our nonperforming assets to total assets decreased to 0.24% compared to 0.26% at year-end. As mentioned in our earnings release earlier today, we began originating loans to qualified small businesses through the Payroll Protection Program or PPP in April under the provisions of the CARES Act. These PPP loans may be eligible for loan forgiveness, for certain costs incurred related to payroll, group healthcare benefit costs, and qualifying mortgage, rent, and utility payments.…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from the line of Brad Milsaps with Piper Sandler.

Brad Milsaps

Analyst

Hi. Good morning, guys.

Julie Shamburger

Analyst

Good morning.

Lee Gibson

Analyst

Hi, Brad.

Brad Milsaps

Analyst

Julie, I was writing quickly when you were sort of running through some of the loan portfolio stats. Just curious if you could go over again that -- I think were you giving exposure to hotel and restaurant and energy, or is that as a percentage of the deferrals that you had granted? But I'm curious to know kind of what the total exposure would be to sort of some of those kind of higher risk category hotel, restaurant, retail CRE and energy.

Julie Shamburger

Analyst

Sure. Okay. To be clear, in -- what I was stating in my script was referring to the deferrals. So did you get all of those percentages?

Brad Milsaps

Analyst

Would love for you to run through those maybe one more time, and then the actual -- the composition would be great too.

Julie Shamburger

Analyst

Okay, sure. Okay. Specifically to the deferrals 29% private households, 22% hotels, 17% commercial real estate and 5% restaurants. And then with respect to the portfolio...

Lee Gibson

Analyst

Here Brad, I can give you that.

Julie Shamburger

Analyst

I've got it.

Lee Gibson

Analyst

Okay. Go ahead.

Julie Shamburger

Analyst

Retail investment real estate is 9%; and hotels are at 2%; retail trade 2%; and foods and restaurants at 2%; for a total with oil and gas of 17%.

Brad Milsaps

Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you. That's very helpful. And then Lee, maybe just moving to the balance sheet. Obviously, a lot of movement at the end of the quarter that wasn't necessarily reflected in kind of what you earned in the first quarter. Is it fair to say you would expect a pretty big boost in NII in the second quarter even excluding PPP, but your margin will see some contraction? Just kind of curious kind of what yield were the bonds that you bought that came on during the quarter? Just trying to get a sense of kind of what's going to go on in the margin.

Lee Gibson

Analyst

The bonds that we've put on in March the yield was a tax equivalent yield, was at 3.22%. And the funding we locked in at $400 million at 32 basis points. So, roughly there's a spread there of about 2.9%. So, yes, we will see -- and most of that occurred in the last probably 15 to 20 days of March.

Brad Milsaps

Analyst

Great. And I know the -- some of the existing borrowings that you have on the books are swapped also with LIBOR. Are there any other big pieces that are coming due over the near term that you could benefit from being able to lower the rate on?

Lee Gibson

Analyst

Yes. We have - on our public funds some of those are tied to Tex pool. The Tex pool rate in March I think averaged right around 1%. And I think it's around -- for April, it's going to be about 45 basis points. And those balances are what Julie about $250 million, $300 million, somewhere in that range? And then, a lot of those -- the brokerage CDs that are rolling off were basically going to Home Loan Bank. And then, we also are borrowing from Fed on the PPP loans at the 25 basis points. And then, all of our retail deposits they have come down. The higher tiers have all come down pretty significantly.

Brad Milsaps

Analyst

Okay. Great. So kind of in the interim, you'll let the higher-cost stuff run off and maybe lean into the wholesale -- Federal Home Loan Bank advances until things can stabilize?

Lee Gibson

Analyst

That is correct.

Brad Milsaps

Analyst

Okay. Great. I’ll hop back in queue. Thank you.

Lee Gibson

Analyst

Yeah.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Young with SunTrust.

Michael Young

Analyst · SunTrust.

Hey. Good morning.

Lee Gibson

Analyst · SunTrust.

Good morning, Michael.

Michael Young

Analyst · SunTrust.

I wanted to maybe just start on capital. You mentioned -- I know you all authorized kind of a share buyback late in the first quarter, which you were active on but then you stopped subsequent to the quarter-end. How should we think about that on a go-forward basis? Maybe what things are you kind of watching to decide whether to proceed with the remainder of that versus not?

Lee Gibson

Analyst · SunTrust.

I think we're going to watch the price of the stock. And we have that in our back pocket. Our capital levels when you look at total capital especially on our risk base -- from a risk-based standpoint are extremely good. So we've got that in our back pocket. And if it makes sense we'll pick up repurchasing some shares again.

Michael Young

Analyst · SunTrust.

Okay. And maybe just overall margin this quarter, were there any significant prepayment fees or anything else running through the margin that aided it further this quarter that we shouldn't expect to recur going forward on a core basis?

Lee Gibson

Analyst · SunTrust.

No. No there was really nothing unusual in the quarter other than interest rates just dropping significantly short-term down close to zero.

Michael Young

Analyst · SunTrust.

Okay. And then the last one for me maybe just on the specific portfolios you mentioned specifically CRE or construction and some of the more at-risk areas. Could you give us a sense for, sort of, the underwriting criteria that you all stick to and what maybe some of the LTVs or debt service coverage ratios would be in those books if you have that available?

Lee Gibson

Analyst · SunTrust.

You know, the equity we typically look for in CRE is at least 30% if not 40% and it really depends on if there's a guarantor or not, and the strength of the guarantor we do have some that have more equity than that but that's not the typical thing. On the debt service coverage for the most part it has to have a 125% debt service coverage ratio. And those are basically the things that we look for. And we stress them to make sure that under different stress scenarios they're able to meet certain things.

Michael Young

Analyst · SunTrust.

Okay. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Brady Gailey with SunTrust.

Brady Gailey

Analyst · SunTrust.

Yeah, it's actually Brady Gailey with KBW. Good morning, guys.

Lee Gibson

Analyst · SunTrust.

Good morning, Brady.

Julie Shamburger

Analyst · SunTrust.

Good morning.

Brady Gailey

Analyst · SunTrust.

So on the bond purchases it sounds like you saw an opportunity with the dislocation in the bond market and took advantage. How do you think about additional bond purchases from here?

Lee Gibson

Analyst · SunTrust.

So everything's pretty tight right now. The reason we went for munis was we could lock in a bond that we didn't have to worry about prepaying because of the call protection. We'll continue to look for things out there but it's pretty tight right now. Munis have tightened in quite a bit from the mid-March levels. Mortgages are just razor-thin at this point in time with the Fed buying as much as they are. So we'll be -- that's the main reason we jumped in and bought basically the asset growth we were looking for the year.

Brady Gailey

Analyst · SunTrust.

All right. And then you mentioned the $10 million of pre-tax earnings from the PPP loans. That looks like about 330 basis points of fees or gains. When would you expect to realize that? It seems like most of those loans will be forgiven within the next quarter or two. So is it right to think about that $10 million will flow through spread income in the next call it two quarters?

Lee Gibson

Analyst · SunTrust.

I think so. I think -- we don't know exactly how much of it's going to run through, but we're guessing close to 90% of it is going to run through. And if it does run through in this quarter it will probably be the last 15 days of the quarter. But I think the bulk of it probably is -- and it really just depends on what the processes SBA has and how -- if it is as slow as getting loans on it may be well into July getting them prepaid.

Brady Gailey

Analyst · SunTrust.

Okay. Great. Thanks, guys.

Lee Gibson

Analyst · SunTrust.

If that's helpful, I mean, we're thinking that whatever is going to be prepaid probably 95% of it's going to happen by the end of July. There'll be very little that trickles past that I would guess.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. Would you like to make closing remarks?

Lee Gibson

Analyst

Yes. Well, thank you for being on the call today. And given Southside's experienced management team along with having entered the crisis with strong asset quality, capital liquidity and low levels of non-performing assets, we believe we're well-positioned to deal with the challenges ahead. Thank you for joining us today. We look forward to reporting second quarter results in July. This concludes our comments.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.