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Q2 2022 Earnings Call· Wed, Oct 6, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to Saratoga Investment Corporation's Fiscal Second Quarter 2022 Financial Results Conference Call. Please note that today's call is being recorded. During today's presentation, all parties will be in a listen-only mode. Following management's prepared remarks, we will open the line for questions. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Saratoga Investment Corporation's Chief Financial and Compliance Officer, Mr. Henri Steenkamp. Sir, please go ahead.

Henri Steenkamp

Management

Thank you. I would like to welcome everyone to Saratoga Investment Corp.'s fiscal second quarter 2022 earnings conference call. Today's conference call includes forward-looking statements and projections. We ask you to refer to our most recent filings with the SEC for important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements and projections. We do not undertake to update our forward-looking statements unless required to do so by law. Today, we will be referencing a presentation during our call. You can find our fiscal second quarter 2022 shareholder presentation in the Events & Presentation section of our Investor Relations website. A link to our IR page is in the earnings press release distributed last night. A replay of this conference call will also be available from 1 p.m. today through October 13th. Please refer to our earnings press release for details. I would now like to turn the call over to our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Christian Oberbeck, who will be making a few introductory remarks.

Chris Oberbeck

Management

Thank you, Henri and welcome everyone. As we reflect on the second quarter, we continue to be pleased with the strength and resilience of our financial position and portfolio companies. Despite the unprecedented global impact and continuance of COVID-19, we feel very fortunate to have overcome its challenges thus far to be in a position where we can leverage the upside of the ongoing recovery and substantial ramp up in market activity. Our existing portfolio companies continued to perform well and our current business development activities allow us to find and evaluate a healthy level of new investments. Our AUM contracted slightly this quarter to $666 million. We originated $116 million in new platforms or follow-on investments, almost matched our record Q1 quarter. This was offset by a record number of repayments, with $135 million redeemed, including the recognition of the $6.4 million realized gain on our Passageways equity investment. We have often discussed how our long-term growth in assets could be accompanied temporarily by lumpy substantial repayments, of which this quarter was an example. We continue to bring new platform investments into the portfolio, with four added this fiscal quarter, and all originations were made while maintaining the extremely high credit quality bar we have set for our investments. The performance of our existing portfolio also grew our NAV per share by 1% this quarter to $28.97. Again, a historical record for us, with this quarter increase being the 14th increase in the past 17 quarters. Our latest 12 months return on equity as of this quarter was 14.4%. To briefly recap the past quarter on slide 2. First, we continued to strengthen our financial foundation in Q2 by maintaining a high level of investment credit quality, with over 93% of our loan investments retaining our highest credit rating…

Chris Oberbeck

Management

Thank you, Chris. Slide 4 highlights our key performance metrics for the quarter ended August 31, 2021. When adjusting for the incentive fee accrual related to net capital gains in the second incentive fee calculation and the interest on the redeemed SAF baby bonds during the core period, adjusted NII of $7.0 million was up 11.6% from $6.3 million last quarter and up 27.5% from $5.5 million as compared to last year's Q2. Adjusted NII per share was $0.63, up $0.14 from $0.49 per share last year and up $0.07 from $0.56 per share last quarter. Across the three quarters, weighted average common shares outstanding remained largely unchanged at 11.2 million shares for each quarter. The increase in adjusted NII from last year primarily reflects the higher level of investments and resultant higher interest and other income with AUM up 31% from last year. The increase from Q1 was primarily due to the full period impact of originations made during Q1 as well as the recognition of a $0.6 million interest reserve release to interest income related to our Taco Mac investment that has been removed from non-accrual this quarter. Adjusted NII yield was 8.7%. This yield is up 70 basis points from 8.0% last year and up 110 basis points from 7.6% last quarter. For the second quarter, we experienced a net gain on investments of $3.1 million or $0.28 per weighted average share and a $1.6 million realized loss on extinguishment of our SAF baby bonds and SBIC I debentures or $0.14 per weighted average share, resulting in a total increase in net assets from operations of $7.9 million or $0.71 per share. The $3.1 million net gain on investments was comprised of $1.5 million in net realized gains and $3.4 million in net unrealized appreciation on investments,…

Mike Grisius

Management

Thank you, Henri. I'll take a couple of minutes to describe our perspective on the current state of the market and then comment on our current portfolio performance and investment strategy. Since our last update, we see market conditions continuing to tighten, returning to where they were pre COVID-19 and very much a borrowers market. Liquidity conditions remain exceptionally robust. We are seeing increasing transaction volumes, tightening credit yields and greater leverage multiples and an aggressive capital deployment posture overall. Pricing and leverage metrics are among the most competitive levels that we've ever seen. As a result, there is increasing pressure for investors to compete in other ways, such as accelerated timing to close and looser covenant restrictions. Now that said, lenders in our market are still wary of thinly capitalized deals, and for the most part are staying disciplined in terms of minimum aggregate base levels of equity and requiring reasonable covenants. Deal volume in the first half of the year was quite robust, and there appears to be a positive outlook in this regard for the remainder of calendar year 2021. Calendar Q4 2021 is on a path to be particularly active, driven by unusually robust M&A activity resulting from frenzied post pandemic trading conditions, a potential for future capital gains tax legislation and unabated Fed support of the economy through low interest rates. Our underwriting bar remains high as usual. Yet we are actively seeking and finding opportunities to deploy capital as evidenced by two record origination quarters back to back and four new platform companies added in fiscal Q2. Follow-on investments with existing borrowers with strong business models and balance sheets continue to be an important avenue of capital deployment, as demonstrated with six follow-ons this past fiscal quarter and nine in the previous. Most notably,…

Chris Oberbeck

Management

Thank you, Mike. As outlined on slide 18, the Board of Directors declared a $0.52 per share dividend for the quarter ended August 31, 2021. This reflected an $0.08 or 18% increase from last quarter. The Board of Directors will continue to reassess this on at least a quarterly basis, considering both company and general economic factors. Moving on to slide 19, our total return for the last 12 months which includes both capital appreciation and dividends has generated total returns of 77%, well above the BDC index of 50%. Our longer-term performance is outlined on our next slide. Our three and five-year returns place us in the top 20 and top 10 respectively of all BDCs for both time horizons. Over the past three years, our 46% return exceeded the 30% return of the index, while over the past five years, our 123% return greatly exceeded the index's 59% return. On slide 21, you can further see our outperformance placed in the context of the broader industry and specific to certain key performance metrics. We continue to focus on our long-term return on equity and NAV per share performance, which are both consistent and at the top of the industry and reflects the growing value our shareholders are receiving. Not only are we one of the few BDCs that have grown NAV, we've done it accretively by also growing NAV per share. Moving on to slide 22, all of our initiatives discussed in this call are designed to make Saratoga Investment a highly competitive BDC that is attractive to the capital markets community. We believe that our differentiated performance characteristics outlined in this slide will help drive the size and quality of our investor base, including adding more institutions. Our differentiating characteristics include maintaining one of the highest levels of management ownership in the industry at 15%; access to low cost and long-term liquidity with which to support our portfolio and make accretive investments; receipt of our second SBIC license providing a sub 2% cost liquidity; a BBB+ investment grade rating and active public and private bond issuances; solid historic earnings per share and NII yield strong and industry-leading historic and long-term return on equity accompanied by growing NAV and NAV per share putting us at the top of the industry for both; high quality expansion of AUM and an attractive risk profile. In addition, our historically high credit quality portfolio contains minimal exposure to conventionally cyclical industries, including the oil and gas industry. We remain confident that our experienced management team, historically strong underwriting standards and tested investment strategy will serve us well in battling through the challenges in the current and future environment, and that our balance sheet, capital structure and liquidity will benefit Saratoga shareholders in the near and long term. In closing, I would again like to thank all of our shareholders for their ongoing support and would like to now open the call for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. First question comes from the line of Bryce Rowe with Hovde.

Bryce Rowe

Analyst

I wanted to maybe start with either Mike or Chris. You've described the pipeline here as robust and obviously highlighted the repayment activity here in the August quarter and kind of describing it as lumpy. How do you all kind of juxtapose the record and near record activity that you've had over the last two quarters from an origination perspective against the adjective robust that you used to describe the pipeline? And then, any thoughts on repayment activity as we are already in the fourth calendar quarter here and as we as we move into 2022, with potential tax law changes taking effect?

Chris Oberbeck

Management

I'll start with that and then I'll pass it on to Mike. Just as a broad overview, not to be casual about it, but it's sort of like the weddings. There are more weddings taking place this year than last year because they were all postponed and held over. So, I think that there's a lot of pent-up demand in transaction activity because of the long pause, if you will, in activity last year from COVID. And so, all the markets have kind of opened up in a major way, valuations have accelerated in many of the businesses that we've invested in. And so, there was sort of a pent-up exit demand, I think. There was an increase in valuation. So, a lot of sponsors and equity owners of their businesses saw opportunities to sell and are still seeing them. I think record M&A activity this year across the board. The big deals, small deals, everywhere. So, just a lot of activity. So, on the repayment side, obviously, that's an impact because it decreases our assets under management. But on the other hand, in our business, the credit business, when you get paid back, that's a good report card that you made a good investment. I think the other side is our originations are very strong. So, just as there's a lot of activity on the sell side, there's also tremendous amount of activity on the buy side. And so, fortunately, these relatively balanced out in the most recent quarter. We were pretty far ahead on the buy side in the quarter before. And again, these are things – we say lumpy because it means we can't predict. We get calls and people say, oh, we decided to sell our company and we've agreed to sell it and we're going to pay you off in a week or we're going to pay off in a month, sometimes they say we're going over a process. So, our absolute visibility in sort of – we can't predict it three months out necessarily. We might be able to predict it one month out. So, we got some visibility there. And some of our companies are working with us. So, sort of a longwinded way to say, the redemption side, we're really not able to predict that. And we've had companies that have decided to put themselves up for sale and they’ve decided not to and then decided to acquire companies. But I think the overall comment is we are in a very active market on both sides. And so, we're seeing our share of both new portfolio investments, but very importantly, as was highlighted in our presentation, new relationships and new platforms. And that's really been the secret to – one of the important elements to our performance is new platforms because often new platforms wind up growing and creating new relationships. Mike?

Mike Grisius

Management

Let me expound on that. On the origination side, there's probably two factors that are driving the robust origination that you've seen in the last couple of quarters. One is the market, as Chris referenced, and there's a lot of pent-up demand, people were on the sidelines for much of the pandemic, and so now that we're getting past that period, there's a lot more transaction volume period. And so, we're right in the flow of that transaction volume and benefiting from it. But the more important thing, the second thing, and this is what we think is – we're really pleased by and we think is fundamental to the growth of our business in the long run is that we're starting to see the benefits of the investments that we're making in business development, specifically focusing on expanding our relationship set. We've done a really good job historically of creating relationships. And because of the way we do business, we think we're very thoughtful and the marketplace recognizes that. We're very partnership oriented. As a result of those things, we get a lot of repeat business from the relationships that we have, but we've made a concerted effort to try to seek out new relationships that we can support as they invest capital in the marketplace, and we've done that very successfully. So, in this last quarter, for instance, I think 38% of that production was from new relationships. So, both factors are at play. And certainly, where market activity is will kind of go up and down, and we don't have as much control over that, but at the lower end of the middle market where there's just so many companies out there, if we continue to do what we've done historically, which is develop really strong relationships…

Bryce Rowe

Analyst

Nice segue into my follow-up question. I think last quarter, you all highlighted a couple of one-off standalone preferred equity investments and then here in your prepared remarks. And in the financial statements, you've carved out what the dividend income is. So, I was hoping to understand the source of the dividend income here this quarter. It looks like one of those two preferred equity investments was exited in the August quarter. And then, the equity investments that you made here in the August quarter, is there a chance that we'll see some dividend income coming off of those in addition to the interest income coming off of the complementary debt investments?

Henri Steenkamp

Management

Let me start off on that question. We actually had three investments last quarter that was preferred equity in nature and that was receiving dividend income. As you noted, one, Greenfire [ph] was repaid during this quarter, and so we're left with two investments like that. We obviously recognize that, although this has recurring return and income, it's not interest income in nature. It's dividend income in nature. So, it's not highlighted on the schedule of investments as like an interest rate. And for that reason, we included it on its own line on the P&L in the dividend income, as you mentioned, so that you guys and obviously all investors can see it and start thinking of that as more of a recurring revenue stream, recurring in nature as these dividends are declared on a quarterly basis. If you think of this quarter, it's primarily related to those two investments. There's a little bit related to the third investment that was repaid, but that was reasonably early on in the quarter. So, with a small haircut, you can start thinking of that dividend income line as being recurring in nature on a quarterly basis going forward.

Chris Oberbeck

Management

And let me add to that, Bryce. Just thinking back or thinking from a broader perspective, I think what we discussed last quarter is still the case. We're looking at these preferred investments a bit more opportunistically. We're always looking at opportunities to invest in the capital structure of good businesses in various spots. Most of it's in the senior debt position. But, occasionally, we find an opportunity to deploy capital in a way where we feel like we can get really attractive risk adjusted returns in a preferred instrument or other instruments. And these were a bit more opportunistic. I think the way you should think about it is that we'll continue to look for those opportunities. And you may see more of them in the future, but it's not our expectation that we're going to fill our balance sheet with lots of them. It's going to be kind of a measured way of approaching it in general.

Operator

Operator

Next questions comes from the line of Casey Alexander from Compass Point.

Casey Alexander

Analyst

I have a couple questions. Nothing particularly compelling, frankly. First of all, this is for Henri, on the new credit facility, Saratoga has historically not had much reliance on the Madison Capital credit facility. And as a matter of fact, it's probably had a zero balance in seven of the last eight quarters. So, I'm curious why on the new credit facility, you agreed to minimum draws on the credit facility as opposed to some form of non-use fee.

Henri Steenkamp

Management

Firstly, although we, as you note, have used this minimally over the past couple of years, there have been at times during the quarter periods where we've used it for either timing differences or sort of intra quarter cash flow needs that we've had. So, it has been drawn a little more than it sort of, I guess, would appear just looking at a point in time on the balance sheet. But putting that aside, I think as we sort of thought of this new credit facility, obviously, we had a wonderful relationship with Madison over the years, but we had an opportunity here to, with a minimum draw, have the ability to bring the cost of capital down quite substantially for us on this credit facility and potentially have the opportunity to increase the use of the facility, not necessarily like most BDCs use it, where it's drawn most of the time, all of it, but to actually increase the usage of the facility because it's a lower cost of capital and it allows us the opportunity to invest at a return that makes sense for us. We still view the draw as sort of minimal. There is still a – you'll see an 8-K will come out later in the week as required with the SEC rules. There is still an undrawn fee associated with it. Obviously, that undrawn fee will go away on whatever portion is drawn.

Chris Oberbeck

Management

Casey, if I could just weigh in on this as well, I think Henri mentioned that there have been a lot of draws that maybe don't show up on our quarterly financial statements. But also very importantly, as you know, and looking at our capital structure, we mostly have fixed rate bond type financings, which we think are the safest, no covenants long term, those type of things. However, those are fairly chunky and then the market for those changes a bit. So, if we have like a robust pipeline and we're making forward commitments and we don't have necessarily a lot of cash on hand at that moment, we can still be comfortable making commitments because we know we have this swing line in place. And so, it allows us to run without a lot of large cash balances and drawn interest payments that would impact our earnings negatively. But we always have the liquidity. So, it's been a very important liquidity enhancer and it's sort of been a sort of a standby facility that's enabled us to do our business very, very well. In terms of the drawn and undrawn, I think we've been fortunate with Madison who was a subsidiary of New York Life, in that as an insurance institution, they are maybe less sensitive to undrawn facilities because they don't have the same type of capital ratio reporting that most banks do, for example. So, most banks facilities, they are not very comfortable with large undrawn facilities. They like to have them largely drawn. Encina is not a bank. It's a non-bank facility. But nonetheless, they are interested in some level of draw. And that's just kind of what the market is. I think we were fortunate that we were able to have a facility that was kind of non-market from the minimum draw side of life. Again, I think very importantly, this facility carries forward so many of the benefits plus more that we've had with our Madison facility. So, we're all very, very comfortable with this new facility and this new relationship.

Casey Alexander

Analyst

My next question is from Mike. Mike, can you just put some brackets around the Passageways sale? Was that driven by the private equity sponsor and you guys were going along or were you guys were driver that transaction? If you can just give us some feel for how that came about.

Mike Grisius

Management

We were a minority investor in support of a private equity sponsor group that we have a very good relationship with. And they got a very compelling offer to sell the business and we all benefited from it. So, we were not driving the exit. It was more consistent with what we most often do, which is find a good business where we're providing debt capital to help them grow their business. But then, in conjunction with that, we co-invested in the equity as well.

Casey Alexander

Analyst

One more question for you, Mike. You're investing to a balance sheet that's twice the size of what it was three years ago. Can you give us some feel for the challenges from the increase in scale? And does it have you working with new sponsors as a way of sort of increasing your entry size into these investments to help keep fully funded in a balance sheet of this size?

Mike Grisius

Management

It's a good question. We really are anxious to stay what we would call the lower end of the middle market, and sometimes people throw, especially in our town, middle market can be companies that are billion dollars in size. But the lower end of middle market where we play is really our sweet spot. We think we can get much better risk adjusted returns there. You can actually get real covenants. And so, we're sticking to our knitting. We've done really well, especially if you kind of see many of our best investments are ones that started off fairly small, some of them initially less than $10 million check sizes out of the box. And then, as our balance sheets grown, we've had the benefit of having the capacity to expand the investment after the company is performing well, we know it well, and we have even greater confidence to support it with more capital. So, we intend to continue to do that. As it relates to new relationships, these are relationships that take quite a bit of time to court these folks and get to know them. And they feel the same way about us. And I can tell you, just recently, for instance, we have closed just last week another deal with a new relationship. We've been courting that group for three years. Know them really well, reputationally and gotten to know them. And in fact, in that deal, we won the deal because they basically felt like we understood the business much better and would be better partners than the other lending group that kind of was pricing in exactly the same way we were with very similar terms. So, we're going to continue to play in the marketplace in that manner. As we've gotten bigger, certainly, we can take on larger check sizes. So, that's helpful as we've expanded our equity base as well. In terms of managing a larger balance sheet, we've invested substantial resources in our people, and believe that we've got as good an underwriting credit quality and culture as anybody, if not the best in the marketplace. And we've continued to add bodies and bring people up in the junior ranks, so where we can share what we know in terms of how we underwrite. We view it very much as an apprenticeship business. And so, we think we've got plenty of capacity to not only manage the balance sheet that we have at this size, but grow it significantly beyond here. And we continue to invest in resources to do so.

Chris Oberbeck

Management

Just one more point to that is that this larger balance sheet also allows us to be much better in our marketplace. In other words, there's a lot of deals where, we can look to underwriting larger pieces and actually being the lead and maybe syndicating out to others, we can be able to solve problems for our sponsors where they need a commitment early and we can commit to much more sizable pieces, including tranches of equity and things like that. So, it makes us – we're not stretching as much as maybe we used to, to serve some of our clients and some of our relationships in some of their scratchier situations.

Casey Alexander

Analyst

Michael, thank you for breaking news. We now know that you've made at least one new investment to a new portfolio company with a new sponsor in the quarter. So thanks for breaking news for us there.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from the line of Robert Dodd from Raymond James.

Robert Dodd

Analyst

Congrats on the quarter. And I'd like to express my appreciation following on Casey there. Kind of two theme questions. First on the origination on the asset side, then the liability side as well. Given the color you've given – in this last quarter with a seasonally – relatively seasonally slow quarter, having the second highest origination quarter ever, and the fourth quarter calendar, not necessarily fiscal, though even September activity, market activity seems to be extremely robust. What probability would you – I'm here not looking for an exact number. What would you say the probability is this this year-end, calendar Q4, for example, is going to represent the highest level of origination in the Saratoga platform history?

Chris Oberbeck

Management

Our own origination in the fourth quarter, I thought that's a tough thing for us to answer. I think what I can say is that we feel very confident in our ability to outpace our payoffs over the long term. The things that I said earlier in terms of sort of benefiting from a robust market, we don't see that changing. And benefiting from new relationships that we've invested in, we don't see that changing either. But where it exactly comes out for the quarter is impossible to say. I think the one thing I would say is that we're just never going to try to think about things in terms of volumes in a quarter. The outcome is the outcome, but we remain laser focused on trying to find as many quality opportunities as we can, and then going after the ones that we think our shareholders would want us to go after that offer the right risk adjusted returns. And the marketplace is favorable. So, those things are lined up well in that respect, but it's impossible to say, really.

Henri Steenkamp

Management

Chris, if I could just add to that, I think that we're a growing organization. We've had very consistent growth over many, many years. And as a growing organization, we're setting a lot of records as the quarters roll on just because we're growing larger than we have been in the past. And I think as Mike very well said, I think our trendline is up and to the right. But there can be setbacks in any given quarter and there can be variations in it. So we're confident in our trajectory based on our history. We don't want to make any forward-looking statements, of course, but our trajectory is growth and setting records in many different areas. But again, I think focusing on what we've talked about earlier, our key metrics, our credit quality, number one, return on equity sort of very close number two. So, we're very focused on profitable growth. And even in these robust markets, we are losing deals because we're declining to participate at certain levels too. So, there's a little bit of that going on too, us making judgments as to where we want to play and how we want to play.

Robert Dodd

Analyst

On the second part, obviously to your partners, there's repayments and net growth, in this kind of environment, would you say – the notice period, how much warning you get about a repayment? Does it shrink in this kind of highly active environment? Obviously, the more activity, the quicker things can happen. So, is there any color on how that kind of your – does your visibility on repayments, not that it's ever that great, and that's not a criticism, that's market wide, does it get even worse in this kind of environment? Or is there any kind of dynamic there?

Chris Oberbeck

Management

I think it's hard to generalize. Everyone is situation specific. There's a lot of companies that – they've had a lot of interest over periods of time and sometimes they get a negotiated offer and they don't really want to talk about it until it's real and live, and then and basically done. And then, other ones they go into processes, and in a process, you get a lot more visibility. So, there's kind of a spectrum. Sometimes we find out in a short period of time we're paying off on Friday, and other times, it's like, we're thinking we're going to sell in the first half of next year, we've got an investment bank and we're going into a process and we've got a lot of feedback and updates on that. So, it's sort of – those may be the two sides of the extreme. And then, there's a lot of pieces – a lot of different situations in between.

Henri Steenkamp

Management

I'd say that all that Chris said is absolutely true. On the margin, your point is probably accurate. And it's mostly driven by the fact that in robust markets, even if somebody feels like they're going to run a process, you'll see people preempt in a process. So, it's something that you think might be six months out for a payoff. Some people will get really aggressive. And before you know it, they're selling the business a lot sooner than otherwise. But that's at the margin. I think as Chris pointed out, it's very much deal specific. And sometimes, you don't have a lot of forewarning. And other times, you kind of knows that it's quite a ways out.

Robert Dodd

Analyst

I appreciate that. Because it ties into the next part of the question. In some cases, I'm sure you would like to remain the incumbent lender to one of these things, even if there's an equity transaction. If you've got a good credit, you would oftentimes I would imagine like to remain the lender to that credit. In an active market where there's a lot of repayment, as you expand the number of relationships you have, is the probability of remaining an incumbent lender in one of these transactions higher, lower or just doesn't matter? It's just [indiscernible].

Henri Steenkamp

Management

It's certainly a lot higher now that our balance sheet is bigger. Once upon a time, there is a change of control transaction and the company had grown significantly, it was just harder for us to stay in the credit because they're looking for more capital than we could see before. So, now that we have a larger balance sheet, it does afford us that opportunity to raise your hands and say, we really like this business, we'd like to support it the next go round, either 100% ourselves or in partnership with somebody. And as you correctly pointed out, that presents an opportunity for us to get to know additional investors. So, it has that benefit as well. And so, yes, there is that opportunity, it's something that in the right circumstances, we very much try to do.

Robert Dodd

Analyst

If I can, one more kind of on the liability side. Obviously, the Encina credit facility is an improvement on the last secured facility in terms of the terms with the Madison. But all in, L plus 4%, 75 basis points floor with non-use fees, et cetera, et cetera, sounds like probably the all in buying cost, actually, effectively north of 5%. You can borrow probably incrementally in the unsecured institutional market sub 4% today, given where your bonds are trading. Two components to that question. One, what do you think Encina is seeing that the institutional – the investment grade unsecured are willing to lend you cheaper than the secured guy is? What's the information gap or what you'd think those two relative groups are missing with respect to each other? And then, the other question, I guess tied to that is, was there a consideration given to just not running a revolver at all and just running a little cash heavy?

Chris Oberbeck

Management

Well, I think a couple things. We are cash heavy right now on top of that. So, there's a lot of variability just because of the way our business works. But importantly, I think we talked about it a little earlier on one of the other questions. What we get from a revolving credit facility is flexibility. So, if we want to raise some bonds, if we have a given position, right, and we've got – let's say, we've got $10 million of cash and we've got $50 million of commitments we want to make and we don't necessarily want to raise a bond at this moment in time, we have a swing line of credit to help us bridge that and gives us some time to more optimally approach whatever marketplace we're interested in. And part of the reason it costs more is it's flexible you know. The bonds, you've got to market point in time, issue a fixed amount of bonds over a fixed period of time with fixed terms. This is something that – it's variable. We can decide to draw it or not draw it. And that gives us a lot of flexibility. It's something we've had all along. It goes with our whole mindset of having a very flexible approach to being able to do business. I think going back to last year, when there was a lot of big problems in the marketplace, the spring of 2020, we had an undrawn revolver that we could have done a lot of business with and allowed us to enter a number of conversations that did result in deals. We were able to issue a bond in June of 2020. But if we hadn't been able to issue that bond, we had the flexibility to draw on our revolver and fund those deals. So, there's a flexibility component that allows us to do our business and we think better than running cash heavy.

Henri Steenkamp

Management

Robert, I would also just add that, obviously, this is a non-bank lender. Whether we are originating assets or whether we're building our capital structure, structure of the facilities have always been extremely important to us at Saratoga. And this is a non-bank lender. The structure and the sort of recourse to the BDC, et cetera, is very different than at bank lenders structures. Obviously, that comes with a higher cost. But for us, we prioritize structure above cost. And this is much more beneficial, flexible, better than what a bank lender's normal borrowing base facility structure is.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Mickey Schleien from Ladenburg.

Mickey Schleien

Analyst

A lot of good questions have already been asked. I just wanted to follow up on a high level question. How do you view the investment opportunity for more unit tranche or perhaps second lien loan investments which could help support portfolio yield, considering how difficult the market is in first liens and how spreads have tightened? And do you see an opportunity to sell first out pieces of unit tranche deals?

Mike Grisius

Management

Mickey, I think the unit tranche opportunity is quite robust. In fact, over time, it used to be that many deals were done. And you're probably aware of this, many deals were done with a bifurcated capital structure where there was a first lien lender and then somebody came in either with unsecured mezz or second lien. Unit tranche is really the dominant security in the marketplace supporting middle market companies for change of control transactions. And many of the first lien deals that we do, I would categorize more as unit tranche, if you will, vis-à-vis kind of first lien that a bank might do. And so, that's most of what you see in our portfolio and it's what we intend to continue to do and we think there's some really good opportunities to deploy capital there. Now, the second lien market is also available to us and we're wide open to those opportunities in the right circumstance. We certainly have a higher bar for second lien than we do for dollar one risk. And so, we would expect that the mix of kind of unit tranche or first lien investments versus second lien would be consistent with what it's been in the past. We don't see a big change there. Now, as it relates to selling down first lien positions, that is something that we're open to, and it hasn't been core to how we underwrite, but certainly in terms of optimizing our returns, and even in some cases, if we're in a position where we have an opportunity to do a deal, but maybe it's kind of a full position for us, being able to develop partnerships with folks that might have an interest in a piece of our security is something that is part of our intent over time as well.

Mickey Schleien

Analyst

Mike, just to follow up on your last comment, are you already set up to sell out those first out pieces, given that usually folks like to do this at the time deals are funded? Otherwise, you end up with the secured borrowing and it's kind of messy. Or is this something still sort of a work in progress?

Mike Grisius

Management

It's a good question. We have been actively doing deals where we're closing simultaneously, where we're doing a first out, last our, let's call it, structure. So, it's a unit tranche that has that waterfall, if you will. And we've done a number of those for years.

Mickey Schleien

Analyst

Mike, food retailers are typically hard to underwrite. They can be quirky in terms of their performance. But curious what attracted you to Pepper Palace to sort of offset the general risks of that sector?

Mike Grisius

Management

It's a good question. And even before I get into some of the detail, I will, of course, remind you that these are private companies and we're not the control owner here. So, there's – limited in terms of what we can share. But I'd say this, we're well aware of what you just commented on, that some of these businesses can have a certain amount of volatility. We, as a result, went into our underwriting with our eyes wide open and became convinced that this is a really interesting business model. One of the things that I can say is that, in our experience underwriting many of those businesses, where they can get into trouble is they take on lease structures where they're tied into a good deal of obligations. And if some of their locations underperform, they're kind of saddled with those and that can add volatility to the capital structure. This business has some really advantageous structures in that respect. And so, there's a lot less of that. Their return on capital is just fantastic in terms of the amount of money that it takes to open one of these and the flexibility that they have in terms of how they structure their leases. So, we feel like as it relates to that structural element that can add volatility to those business models, this one doesn't have those features. And it's a business that we became quite comfortable investing in for a variety of other reasons, as well just in terms of its market position and its performance and the ownership group, we think, is quite knowledgeable and we think that the business has a bright future.

Mickey Schleien

Analyst

Interesting comments on the leases. One more last question. More of a housekeeping question perhaps for Henri. I noticed you lowered the estimated yield on the CLO, which is a little bit counterintuitive, given how strong fundamentals are in terms of defaults and things of that nature. So, any insight that you can give us into what's going on there?

Henri Steenkamp

Management

Mickey, nothing specific other than I would say – obviously, the interest rates and output from the valuation, you probably saw the valuation stayed relatively unchanged quarter-over-quarter. And I would say probably the biggest driver in that interest rate change was that our principal cost balance increased during the quarter, just from the function of receiving a large equity distribution, larger than projected. And as you know, how the accounting works is you've got the equity distribution and then a portion of it is interest income from the prior quarter's rate. And then, the remaining increases your cost basis or principal, if you will. And so because the principal went up, that sort of drove as an output the rate slightly lower. So, that was really the largest driver of that. It wasn't really performance or anything. It's probably more driven by our performance, if anything else.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from the line of Sarkis Sherbetchyan from B. Riley Securities.

Sarkis Sherbetchyan

Analyst

[Technical Difficulty] repayments. I'm just curious on what you view as the appropriate level of cash to keep on the books versus pulling that cash into earning assets.

Henri Steenkamp

Management

We just missed a little bit the first part, but I think what you are asking is just, with the level of repayments, how on sort of things of cash. We've obviously don't have that problem or issue at the moment because we have cash remaining from the bond offering that we did. And so, we have quite a bit of cash. I think, at quarter-end, it was around $72 million to deploy. I think with the terms and the availability of the credit facility that we have, we feel relatively comfortable to utilize all of that cash because, again, if there's a timing need, if there's a cash need, we can access the credit facility, only have $12.5 million of the $50 million drawn, which allows a lot of additional cash capacity to be used. And then, of course, obviously, the baby bond or the bond market, institutional bond market is available for us if we have more cash needs. From a liquidity perspective, we feel pretty good about it at the moment. And I'm not really concerned especially with the credit facility in hand about having additional cash on hand.

Sarkis Sherbetchyan

Analyst

Henri, I think my line might be chopping up. But I guess my question was more so, what do you think is the appropriate level of cash to keep on the books compared to deploying that cash? I super appreciate that you're in a really good liquidity spot and I'm just wondering, essentially what's the right cash to keep on the balance sheet here?

Mike Grisius

Management

Well, if I could maybe jump in here, I think that's a very good question. It's something we are constantly thinking about. I think we kind of have a forward look, like how many deals do we think we have in our pipeline that are going to close within a given period of time and what is our capital relative to that. And we've been fortunate to have pretty good access to the capital markets, although there are times when the capital markets close, as this second quarter of 2020, for example. And so, we want to be able to continue to do our business. So, that's why we have the line of credit. I think as you notice in some of the terms, it's a $50 million facility, but we have the ability to upsize that to $75 million. So, we have the ability to have our revolving line of credit increase. And so, that allows us to maybe run with a little less cash on hand at the time. I think depending where your cash comes from, we also have redemptions, right, we have repayments. So, we have repayments coming in. So, we have some visibility about cash coming back. We have some visibility on cash going out. And so, it's a very dynamic decision we're making. But one of the things that's informing us is obviously being efficient, right, and if you have a given $10 million of cash that's on your books, but that cash is matched up against even a very well-priced bond offering at 4.25%, you're not earning anything on the $10 million and you're paying 4.25% or something depending where that cash came from exactly. And so, there's a negative arbitrage to cash. And so, you want to minimize the negative arbitrage. And then, our unused line fee, Henri, is 75 basis points?

Henri Steenkamp

Management

Yeah, it's 75 basis points until we're 50% drawn and then it drops to 50 basis points.

Mike Grisius

Management

So, we're paying between 50 and 75 basis points for undrawn facility, which in general is less expensive than running cash that we sold bonds to fund, if you will. Again, those are considerations, but some level of cash is certainly good to have from a safety standpoint, but then managing the negative arbitrage of cash relative to all of the other things we've talked about is an ongoing process.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I'll hand it back over to Chris Oberbeck for closing remarks.

Chris Oberbeck

Management

Well, thank you all. We appreciate everyone for joining us today and we appreciate your questions and interest and we look forward to speaking with you next quarter. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.