Richard Hough
Analyst · Singular
Yes. Right. So the tailwinds for the equity markets with regards to our AUM were pretty significant for 2024 and 2025. I would even say '23 through '25. It was a definite negative, as you might expect in 2022 for us. That is increasingly attenuated in part because of where we are exposed in the market. You have to keep in mind, we're a diversified wealth management firm, 70% of our assets are going to be invested in a way that's quite balanced and not necessarily levered directly to hot running equity markets, number one. Number two, as you well known, the hottest spot in the market are large cap technology stocks, very, very concentrated, way more concentrated than we would normally have a wealth management client who needs a diversification in assets and can't have that kind of exposed risk as much as it's enticing and creates a fear of missing out. So we're just not going to run the same way as the equity markets. And the capital gain, for example, at the firm over the first quarter was very, very, very small. And it probably ran at -- I'm just ballparking here, but I'm going to be very close. In the fourth quarter, if you had to annualize that, it probably would have been closer to $1.2 million on that $1 billion on an annualized basis. So a good bit down from total years of, say, 2024. And we're in a really unusual situation. The market could take a big hit from those large-cap stocks. They could decline meaningfully as they did at the beginning of the Iran war or when tariffs were announced. And it would have less an effect on this firm. We'll be much more stable. In general, if there's a flight to quality, we will benefit. So that's one way that you should think about and look at our AUM. As for expenses, I should mention something else, sorry, which is that new client organic flows were very strong in 2024 for us, some of the strongest we had seen over the past several years. That was due to primarily new high net worth accounts as well as very large investment in our global value equity strategy. It was a pretty good quarter in the fourth quarter of last year on that basis, and it was okay for the first quarter of 2026. The drawback there is that we saw institutional outflows from other parts of the business due to some performance concerns as well as fully funded pension plans and obligations. So as the firm is diversified, the nature of our flows have become a little more complicated. Now on the expense side, we're seeing increases in G&A with travel, as you might expect, and a heavy marketing push especially when we're going to further places in the globe. So that's a meaningful increase. There's a meaningful increase as well with regards to legal and other administrative expenses as we built these trusts. But the biggest needle mover with regards to expenses is in intellectual capital and headcount. And to give you an idea of the magnitude of that and where it's hitting our earnings and EBITDA, we were running a 60% of revenue for compensation a year ago. We're now at 67% of revenue. So while we've been making this investment for going almost 2 years, the real momentum was from the beginning of last year to this year in terms of the number of people and initiatives required to make this happen. I've mentioned in prior calls, filling out the analyst team, trading, operations, administration, of course, marketing has been completely rebuilt, including professionals in Australia and London. It includes internal marketing capabilities among other initiatives. At the same time, we're concentrated on growing the high net worth business. We've opened an Atlanta office. We hired a new senior portfolio manager there who is already seeing some inflows to the firm that will be reportable. So there's a lot going on, but the expense you're seeing has been primarily over the past year. It's early in the investment cycle. As I was alluding to with Sandy's question, this could change very, very quickly with only a couple of mandates. It's just a matter of doing that homework, getting it done and being patient to see those flows as our capabilities get rated. So it's been a very, very significant and intentional investment. I remain highly excited about it. Hopefully, you've been on these calls long enough to know that I'm pretty conservative in my estimates over time and careful about what I say. So what I hope to deliver is starting to see progress on that revenue given what we started in earnest really only a year ago.