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Silvercrest Asset Management Group Inc. (SAMG)

Q2 2020 Earnings Call· Sun, Aug 9, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Silvercrest Asset Management Group Inc. Q2 2020 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. Before we begin, let me remind you that during today's call Silvercrest will make forward-looking statements pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. All statements other than statements of historical fact, including statements regarding future events and developments and Silvercrest's future performance as well as management's current expectations, beliefs, plans, estimates or projections relating to the future are forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are only predictions based on current expectations and projections about future events. These forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties and there are important factors that could cause actual results level of activity performance or achievements to differ materially from the statements made. Among these factors are fluctuations in quarterly and annual results in terms of net losses adverse effects of management focusing on implementation of a growth strategy, failure to develop and maintain the Silvercrest brand and other factors disclosed in the company's filings with the SEC, including those factors listed under the caption entitled Risk Factors in the company's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2019 and quarterly report on Form 10-Q for the three months ended March 31, 2020 and on quarterly report on Form 10-Q for the three and six months ended June 30, 2020 filed with the SEC. In some cases these statements can be identified by forward-looking words such as believe, expect, anticipate, plan, estimate, likely, may, will, could, continue, project, predict, goal the negative or plural of these words and other similar expressions. These forward-looking statements are predictions based on Silvercrest's current expectations and its projections about future events. All forward-looking statements made on this call are made as of the date hereof and Silvercrest assumes no obligation to update these forward-looking statements. I would now like to turn the conference over to Rick Hough, Chairman and CEO of Silvercrest. Please go ahead.

Rick Hough

Analyst

Thanks and thanks very much for joining us for our second quarter 2020 results. It's good to speak with you all today and it's the first time in five months, I've been in the same room with my CFO, which is nice. Silvercrest is pleased to report good results for the second quarter of 2020 ending June 30, despite the challenging backdrop we've all seen with the corona shutdown and we've grown both due to organic growth in each segment of our businesses as well as supportive equity markets. We opened new discretionary accounts of $159 million during the quarter and we saw total net organic inflows of $200 million in discretionary assets under management, which delivered our best organic growth since the second quarter of 2019. Our discretionary assets under management, which drive top line revenue grew 16% from the first quarter and our total assets under management during the quarter increased 16% to $23.8 billion. Importantly, as of June 30, 2020, our assets under management now stand at nearly the same level as Q3 2019. Finally as a result of the recovery and our accretive combination with Cortina in July 2019, our total assets have increased 10% year-over-year. Accordingly, our revenue adjusted net income, adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margins and adjusted diluted earnings per share each show increases or were flat for the quarter and first half versus a year ago. Silvercrest has maintained a proven ability over time even during difficult environments and despite industry trends to continue attracting net positive asset flows from new high net worth families, institutional asset, Management and for our Outsourced Chief Investment Officer businesses. Last year we announced that 2020 and 2021 would prove important for the OCIO business. While the current environment has slowed searches, we've reported last quarter that…

Scott Gerard

Analyst

Thanks Rick and second it's great to be in the same room with you as well. As disclosed in our earnings release for the second quarter, discretionary AUM as of June 30, 2020 was $17.3 billion and total AUM as of June 30, 2020 was $23.8 billion. Revenue for the quarter was $24 million and reported consolidated net income for the quarter was $28 million. Delving in the second quarter further, again, revenue was $24 million and that represented approximately a 0.5% increase over revenue of approximately $23.9 million for the same period last year. This increase was driven primarily by increased net client flows and discretionary assets under management, including $1.7 billion in assets under management acquired on July 1, 2019 in connection with the Cortina acquisition partially offset by market depreciation in the first quarter of this year. Revenue for the quarter ended June 30, 2020 related to the Cortina acquisition was approximately $2.6 million. Total AUM increased from March 31, 2020 to 30 June of the same year primarily because of rebounds in the market after significant market declines in the first quarter of this year resulting from the COVID-19 pandemic. Most of our revenue was built in advance, based on closing market values from the last date of the previous calendar quarter. Second quarter 2020 revenue was primarily based on March 31, 2020 values. Expenses for the second quarter were $22.7 million, representing approximately a 16% increase from expenses of $19.5 million for the same period last year. This increase was primarily attributable to an increase in general and administrative expenses of $3.8 million partially offset by a decrease in compensation benefits expense of $0.6 million. Comp and benefits expense decreased primarily as a result of a decrease in the accrual for bonuses as a result…

Rick Hough

Analyst

Great. Thanks very much Scott and we're now available for questions. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Today's first question comes from Sumeet Mody with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Sumeet Mody

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning, Rick and Scott.

Rick Hough

Analyst

Good morning.

Sumeet Mody

Analyst

Just wanted to start with the OCIO business. It seems like there's been pretty nice growth since 3Q 2019. I believe it was roughly $150 million then now reaching about $500 million. Just a couple of questions here but how much did the OCIO initiative contribute to that $159 million in new client assets? And then can you talk a little bit about the impact of the lack of travel on the search environment and how that affects your expectation around the timing of kind of when you'll be able to reach a more scaled level of assets? I think you mentioned a few billions of AUM over time.

Rick Hough

Analyst

Sure. I'm not sure what the $159 million you're referring to is, but basically the -- we started at zero and OCIO business started flowing in in the fourth quarter of 2019. We had a really nice win in the second quarter of 2020 and that was a meaningful contributor. What -- the reason I'm hesitating here is that some of the contributions from that mandate may have bled into what is now the third quarter bit. But basically, the OCIO assets sit at $550 million. And a key threshold for us is going to be $1 billion I think because we want to build this into a few million dollar business. And I feel like with that amount of assets under our belt, it will just help lead to more introductions and frankly recognition in the space because we've got sizable assets. The search environment's really tough. As you know, I didn't talk about our pipeline of availabilities in our last quarterly call. Pretty much froze up and we have ended the year with a very, very strong pipeline. We didn't really lose anything. It's just that stuff didn't move. And travel definitely makes it harder to seek the consultants and cultivate relationships in this business. A lot of our institutional development is through those consultant relationships. That said, we have been ramping up our client interaction and consulting firm conference call requests and we're staying in front of research personnel and we are finding that there is starting to be a pickup in activity in fact -- I could say the 6-month actionable pipeline which I've stopped providing a quarter ago is now about $780 million in the pure equity asset management side of the business. Keep in mind those -- that is a very conservative view of our pipeline. That is not just where we've crossed out RFPs. That is specifically where we're in an invite-only request or we're in a semifinals or finals with regards to bringing on accounts. We have a pretty high win rate of our pipeline overall. I expect on the OCIO side, it slowed down a bit since the win we had in the second quarter. But I think that's as much a function of when nonprofit and other Boards meet as anything else. And I would expect that activity there picks up again in the fall. We've seen that cycle before. It's not unusual. I serve on boards that manage endowments and foundations and in fact we're not meeting until the fall about some of those issues ourselves. And I would think it's the same for any other institutions. So we feel really good. We do have opportunities in that pipeline but I don't think it will pick up again until well into the third quarter.

Sumeet Mody

Analyst

Okay. Great. And just to follow up a little bit on that. I mean can you talk a little bit about the demand where it is across the product set with the institutional pipeline?

Rick Hough

Analyst

The demand is mostly focused in our value equity capabilities. There's some interest of course in the new growth opportunity, but our ability to bring that to market as fast as we would have liked after the acquisition has certainly been affected by this environment. The performance in our growth capabilities has been better than benchmarks. So we're well positioned for potential searches. It's just a matter of continuing to bring that to market. I'm quite confident, we'll build that pipeline. It's just a terrific team with a great capability, but their ability to market definitely was more affected by corona virus than our already established value clients. In fact the inflows this quarter institutionally had very strong client additions. I think that's important to note. We didn't have a lot of new wins as you would surmise based on my comments with regards to the ability to travel and what's happened with the pipeline. And the fact I didn't even talk about the pipeline a quarter ago. But we had very strong inflows from institutional investors when the markets were beaten down which was really nice to see that they had that kind of confidence with us and it bodes well for our relationship in the future.

Sumeet Mody

Analyst

That's really helpful. And then one on the seasonal impacts for tax outflows in the quarter. Has that gotten mostly pushed back to the third quarter? I know you mentioned this a little bit last quarter. I just wanted to see if there was any effect there on tax.

Rick Hough

Analyst

Yes it's a great question and very perceptive of you to ask because you're right. Usually there's quite a bit of headwind at the end of the first quarter or into the second quarter as people raise cash to pay significant taxes. It's uncertain. We're not really clear what the tax effect is going to be, but I think it would be wise to consider that there will be outflows in the third quarter, given everyone's taxes have likely been pushed off into September. There has already been some raising of cash. Of course that cash sits on our books as assets under management. It hasn't gone out the door yet for taxes and to their clients of course with quarterly tax payments. It's a little hard for us to get our arms around because there's -- people's taxes are so individual. But I would not be surprised to see the delay effect that you're referring to.

Sumeet Mody

Analyst

Okay. Great. And then just one more for me. You saw a nice bump in kind of discretionary fee rate in the quarter. Can you talk about the drivers there? How should we think about that for the remainder of the year?

Rick Hough

Analyst

Yes. You're going to laugh at I think maybe or be frustrated at my answer. I don't think you should account for or take it into effect. Our fee rate has bounced between kind of 57 somewhere there and 63 for 18 years and it's stuck at 59 forever. The -- it's affected mostly by what happens with regards to the markets. When there's a significant sell-off of course you've got equities that really drop in value. And so your overall fee basis will become more dominated by fixed income in that environment and vice versa when you're in a really bullish environment. So it's not just a matter of what kind of business we win. The larger the mandates the lower the fee as you would expect. The bigger institutional business comes because of those large mandates without the need for service the lower -- the further it lowers our fee basis which is a really high-class problem. I don't mind it at all. Give me all the AUM we want at slightly lower fee rate. OCIO would look similar. So there is a slight potential trend downward. Interestingly because of our continued growth in the high net worth business, it's still balanced out in that range. And yes, we were a little high for the quarter. Hard to know how you built your model versus what we're seeing in the reality of the business. But there's one other thing that of course affects the fee basis and that's new flows in the quarter. new added AUM, because you get stub period revenue. And if you're using to getting a period AUM to calculate what your fee basis and discretionary assets look like, you're not taking into account necessarily those additional stub period revenue associated with new AUM and…

Sumeet Mody

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thanks. It's really, really helpful color. And with that, I leave it there. Thanks.

Rick Hough

Analyst

Yeah. Thanks a lot. I appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

And our next question today comes from Sandy Mehta with Evaluate Research. Please go ahead.

Sandy Mehta

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning. Congratulations on a solid set of results, and strong investment performance across the board. You mentioned that, you've hired several new portfolio managers or portfolio management talent, in New York. Is this for new products? Is this for client service, or are you adding to existing fund management teams?

Rick Hough

Analyst

This is strictly for, high net worth family wealth management. Given the service requirements of that business, we want to maintain a reasonable number of clients, per portfolio manager. At Silvercrest our portfolio managers, go well beyond what may be called a relationship manager or a wealth manager at another firm. And they are investment professionals in their own right. So we call them portfolio managers. So I can understand the nomenclature being a little confusing. But these are strictly to serve new high net worth families. Our established and successful partners who are managing wealth assets, it eventually gets to a point where, it's hard to add a lot of families without compromising on the service model. And this firm has to continue looking to organic growth. And part of the way, we're going to do that is by hiring new talent. The -- we added one new portfolio manager this year. Perhaps it was two, actually it may have been. And we've added two others over the past I'll call it, 1.5 years to two years. So it's a reference of what we've done quite recently, as well as what we've done over the past few years. And I would expect that we'll be doing more of it, both here in New York and elsewhere. In an M&A environment that has been quite difficult to navigate, which we've talked about before, on these calls with compatible cultures, people, business models, at a reasonable price for our investors, shareholders. We've been concentrating as you well know on the organic growth and on the wealth side. That requires some people. We've made investments in the institutional business. We've made investments in the OCIO business. And more recently, I've been turning my attention with investments to the wealth management business.

Sandy Mehta

Analyst

Okay. And just one final question, given the market environment, market volatility and the economic volatility due to COVID, are you seeing more opportunities, on the acquisition side? I know you talk to people all the time, but is that creating possibly more opportunities for you?

Rick Hough

Analyst

No. I don't think it is. So it's kind of funny. If the market had sustained its trough after the speed decline, I think two things would have happened. One, you would have had a lot of stress on players in the industry that have really levered off and used cheap debt to foster, what I consider, pretty expensive acquisitions and it would have perhaps changed how they looked at acquisitions or their ability to do so, if it were sustained. Secondly, there could have potentially been a resetting of prices for what in many cases, in my experience, are declining annuity businesses without succession planning and a host of other business issues. That didn't happen. The snapback was very fast and a lot of recovery and didn't provide an opportunity in either of those fronts. The other thing that happens, of course, when the markets fall down a lot, especially with closely held proprietorships, which are endemic in this business, is that people can take their firms off the market and just wait for a recovery. So we didn't see that cycle at all. It's just continued as if it were 2019 in many respects. The cheapness of financials in general in the market, it's been a sector that's really struggled for quite some time. And the attractive cash flow characteristics of these businesses, has turned the attention of investors to it. And so the demand has not gone away. And in addition, I would say that, to move the needle at this firm in places I want to be, with business models that work with us, that allow us to consistently then organically grow after an acquisition. It's a pretty tall order anyway. We're very selective, which is why we've always concentrated on organic growth. We are always in conversations. There are still firms out there that we’re talking with that we would do a deal with when the timing's right, but the volume of what I'm seeing has not been any more attractive than what I see recently.

Sandy Mehta

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Rick Hough

Analyst

You’re welcome.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Chris Sakai with Singular Research. Please go ahead.

Chris Sakai

Analyst · Singular Research. Please go ahead.

Hi. Good morning. I just had -- my question regarding, if you could share some light on the high net worth client acquisition environment. Just want to know what were some tractors there that led to the growth?

Rick Hough

Analyst · Singular Research. Please go ahead.

Yes. I'm glad you asked the question, because my experience going through the great financial crisis was that, high net worth investors during that period of time really stuck with the people or management, wealth managers that they were already invested with. It's a relationship business and in that environment it was better the devil you know than taking a chance on someone new. Of course, at the time the firm was six, seven years old when we were going through that crisis and in quite a different position from an AUM perspective as well and stature in the business. But the snapback then, not unlike the snapback now, then allow people to get comfortable, again, with what their wealth management was doing. This time is different and I can't quite tell you why. I expected, along with the institutional pipeline, for the wealth management opportunities to freeze up in this environment. It's a relationship people business. We love meeting our clients and seeing them face-to-face, let alone new prospects. And I have been quite surprised at the amount of interest from high net worth investors this time around. I think a couple of things have changed. Number one would, of course, be technology. All of us have gotten used to video calls and the lack of travels and meetings. And our clients and high net worth investors are no different and they've been willing to do that and engage us. Secondly, I think, we've seen people in this particular environment, which is a non-financial crisis, but a societal crisis, people reassessing fundamental things in their lives, relationships and what have you. And there are a couple of incidents with regards to new business, where, I know, that has been a driving factor. A third one, this time around, at least, with a couple of prospects I'm aware of, is that some of the roll-up RIAs and larger very aggressively growing businesses that are aggregating businesses, are either taking their eye off the ball or are pushing product, or giving a sense of insecurity to their client base, because we are seeing opportunities from other RIAs. Very often the business we have won have been from the wirehouses and bullish bracket banks. We are now seeing opportunities not just there, but from some of our competitors. And I think that is an element in what's happening right now. So we don't track a pipeline for the high net worth business. It's a little bit too serendipitous and uneven to predict. It can take years to land a family. It can take two weeks. It just doesn't have the same process that the institutions do, but I will say that, the second quarter was pretty good. And that opportunity has not abated, so I look forward to further organic flows there.

Chris Sakai

Analyst · Singular Research. Please go ahead.

Okay. Thanks for that.

Operator

Operator

And ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Rick Hough for any closing remarks.

Rick Hough

Analyst

Well, thank you very much. Appreciate the opportunity to have some pretty good questions this quarter. We're proud of what we achieved and we're able, in this environment, to continue progress with organic growth. And, of course, we're very grateful for the markets revaluing assets, which is something we can do nothing about, but certainly helps the business and allows us to continue making investments, rather than being quite so conservative about concern for the future, which is good news. And in the wake of market volatility and the potential for market volatility, we're going to continue making those investments and focusing on organic growth, while we're keeping an eye out for the right kind of acquisition, not unlike what we did with Cortina last year, which was just terrific. So, thank you very much for your interest and for the questions and I look forward to speaking to you next quarter. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

And thank you, sir. This concludes today's conference call. We thank you all for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.