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Ryerson Holding Corporation (RYZ)

Q4 2025 Earnings Call· Fri, Feb 20, 2026

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to Ryerson Holding Corporation’s Fourth Quarter 2025 Conference Call. Today’s conference is being recorded. There will be a question-and-answer session later. If you would like to ask a question, please press 1 on your telephone keypad at any time. Again, that is 1 to ask a question. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Justine Carlson. Please go ahead. Good morning.

Justine Carlson

Management

Thank you for joining Ryerson Holding Corporation’s Fourth Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. On our call, we have Edward J. Lehner, Ryerson’s Chief Executive Officer, James J. Claussen, our Chief Financial Officer, and Molly D. Kannan, our Chief Accounting Officer and Corporate Controller. A recording of this call will be posted on our investor relations website at ir.ryerson.com. Please read the forward-looking statement disclosures included in our earnings release issued yesterday, and note that it applies to all statements made during this call. In addition, our remarks today refer to several non-GAAP measures. Reconciliations of these adjusted numbers are also included in our earnings release. I will now turn the call over to Edward J. Lehner. Thank you, Justine. Good morning,

Edward J. Lehner

Management

and thank you all for joining us to discuss our fourth quarter and full year 2025 performance. Before diving in, I would like to first extend a warm welcome to Richard Marabito, Richard Manson, and Andrew Greif, who are joining this morning’s call as our President and Chief Operating Officer, our Senior Vice President of Finance, and our Executive Vice President of Ryerson, and President of the Olympic Steel Business Unit, and all of our Olympic Steel faithful following the successful merger of Ryerson and Olympic Steel which we closed just a week ago today. It is my absolute pleasure to be working alongside you to serve both our collective shareholders and our combined employee base that is more than 6,000 strong in approximately 160 locations. I am looking forward to the great things we are going to accomplish together as a unified enterprise with significantly greater scale and expanded product and service offerings. We are in the very early days of integration—as in seven—but we have been sitting on a spring for several months and that has sprung, and we are off to an excellent start. We have established an experienced integration team focused on realizing the expected $120,000,000 in annual run-rate synergies with an emphasis on combining best practices, optimizing asset utilization, and capturing combined targeted cost and revenue merger benefits. We are highly confident in our ability to deliver on the aforementioned synergies over the next two years and are looking forward to sharing our progress with you quarterly. Turning to the business, the underlying commodity price gumbo for our mix of products increased at a faster rate than anticipated during the fourth quarter as supply-side price drivers outpaced buyer price absorption and demand was still subdued and contractionary in the quarter. By the end of the…

James J. Claussen

Management

and 1.5% for the full year of 2025 compared to 2024. By comparison, Ryerson’s North American shipments decreased by 6.8% sequentially and less than half a percentage point for the full year, indicating market share gains for the full year of 2025 despite retracement during the quarter on majority depressed OEM program demand and shipments. Our total company tons shipped were down just under 5% quarter over quarter, in line with guidance, and approximately 3% higher compared to the fourth quarter of last year. For the full year of 2025, our total company tons shipped came in just ahead of last year, up by half a percentage point. Turning to performance at the end-market level, I would first like to note that we recently wrapped up a top-to-bottom review of our classifications and realigned our reporting to gain a clear, more accurate understanding of our business performance and better direct strategic decision-making. Utilizing these new classifications, we saw the most year-over-year volume growth in our fabrication and welding sector followed by growth in the machine shop and machinery and equipment sectors. Partially offsetting that growth was weakness in the commercial transportation sector and, to a lesser degree, by weakness in our climate sector, which includes HVAC, and in our heavy equipment sector, which includes agricultural and construction equipment. Turning to fourth quarter performance, we achieved revenue within our guidance range with volumes in line with seasonal trends. However, as Eddie mentioned, material costs rose faster than anticipated during the quarter, growth outpacing our average selling price, and the quarter expired before we were able to fully price these increases into the market. As a result, we experienced weaker-than-expected gross margin and recorded a higher-than-expected LIFO expense for the quarter. Our operating expenses came in largely as expected. In all, our…

Molly D. Kannan

Management

Thanks, Jim, and good morning, everyone. For 2025, Ryerson reported net sales of $1,100,000,000, a decrease of approximately 5% compared to the previous quarter, driven by lower tons shipped, with average selling prices flat. Compared to 2024, net sales increased by 9.7% with average selling prices 6.3% higher as well as increased tons shipped of 3.1%. As discussed, commodity prices rose more than anticipated during the quarter and resulted in a LIFO expense of $22,500,000 compared to our expected expense of $10,000,000 to $14,000,000 and compared to the previous quarter expense of $13,200,000. Gross margin contracted by 190 basis points to 15.3% and gross margin, excluding LIFO, contracted by 100 basis points to 17.3% during the fourth quarter as we were unable to price these rapid increases into the market before the end of the period. Warehousing, delivery, selling, general and administrative expenses totaled $205,300,000 for the fourth quarter, an increase of $4,900,000 compared to the third quarter driven by advisory service fees related to the Olympic Steel merger. In all, the gross margin compression and one-time expenses contributed to our fourth-quarter net loss attributable to Ryerson of $37,900,000, or $1.18 per diluted share. This compares to net loss of $4,300,000 and diluted loss per share of $0.13 for 2024. Our adjusted EBITDA excluding LIFO generation for the fourth quarter was $20,400,000, which compares to $10,300,000 generated in 2024. And with this, I will turn the call back to Eddie.

Edward J. Lehner

Management

Thank you, Molly. While fourth-quarter results were adversely influenced by ongoing recessed manufacturing conditions, we are seeing the signs of an improving manufacturing economy through the early part of 2026, and the combined potential and prospects of our merger have us aiming much higher in the quarters and years ahead. Regardless, whatever the macro gives or takes away, our determination and conviction are resolute in making good on the $120,000,000 in annual synergies we expect to deliver, and we as a team could not be more confident in the Ryerson Rise—whatever you prefer—organization that we have assembled to deliver it. As Ronnie Coleman—and you have to Google it—used to say, “Ain’t nothing to it but to do it.” With that, we look forward to your questions. Operator? Thank you. Thank you. Ready for questions. Is anybody out there?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. If you are dialed in via the telephone and would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star-1 on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Again, press star-1 to ask a question. We will take our first question from Katja Jancic from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Maybe starting on more, I guess, near term, 4Q was negatively impacted by the fast increase in prices and not you not being able to push prices higher. Are you right now still seeing any potential pushback from your customers about fully accepting these price increases?

Edward J. Lehner

Management

Hi, Katja. It is Eddie. And, you know, we have Richard Marabito and James J. Claussen and Richard Manson and Andrew Greif and Nick in the room with us. So we could give you a really fulsome answer. I will tell you that I have been pleasantly surprised by the increase in business activity overall. When we look at quoting rates and we look at conversion rates,

Richard Marabito

Analyst

it is the best we have seen in a really long, long time. So that is very positive. I think getting price increases into the market, it is finally starting to happen. But I will also say if you look at mill utilization rates and you look at some of the recoveries in certain end markets, it is still somewhat uneven. It really is sort of the end market by end market and customer by customer. So it is a gradual pricing through on that side as we look at mill pricing getting through the distribution channel to customers. But for the first 45-plus days of the quarter, it has been very positive overall.

Edward J. Lehner

Management

Rick? Yeah. Thanks, Eddie. Agree.

Richard Marabito

Analyst

I think—and everybody knows we closed on the 13th, so the first half of the first quarter is not included in our results going forward. But I agree with Eddie. We saw and have seen a good start to the year in terms of both volumes and pricing. So we are optimistic, as Eddie said earlier in his comments, you know, it is good to close a transaction and merge and have a little wind in our sails in terms of the market. So we are feeling good about that. And, Katja, I would say this too. I mean, you know from our attendance at the BMO conferences, which we are looking forward to seeing you again next week. Last couple years, I mean, it has been a long trough, and it got very tiresome to talk about the same things over and over again. Looking at the investments that we both made individually and collectively and looking at the execution of both companies and having a lot of the CapEx really behind us. I will give you an example. Shelbyville had a record month and we had done a major expansion in Shelbyville.

Edward J. Lehner

Management

And

Richard Marabito

Analyst

we are starting to see, you know, the promise of those capital investments really show through in a meaningful, tangible way. And you know, the call does not afford us the opportunity to go through every single one, but just suffice to say, we are really pleased with how those investments now are starting to look when we see some operating leverage in the industry and across our assets.

Operator

Operator

Given that the markets are improving, right, and you have bigger portfolio now. How are you thinking about capital allocation moving forward? And I understand that you are in the process of combining fully combining or integrating the two companies. But how should we think about that?

Edward J. Lehner

Management

Yeah. So I will start, and then I am going to kick it over to Rick. So it is important to keep the main thing the main thing, and that is

Richard Marabito

Analyst

really getting after the $120,000,000 in annual run-rate synergies and deleveraging. Still want to bring the debt down. People ask us about growth, but we just took a major quantum leap forward when it comes to growth through the merger. So we want to delever. We want to get the synergies. We want to go ahead and optimize the footprint of the assets. And that is job one. And I think when we get through the year, as we get through the year and we have the success that we expect, then I think we could start to keep one eye out for, you know, what may be on, you know, that horizon.

James J. Claussen

Management

Rick, what do you think? Yeah. Agree. And I think

Richard Marabito

Analyst

obviously, Eddie talked about continuing the dividend, which we thought was really important as a piece of the capital allocation. But yeah, I think really focusing on the cash flow and getting the debt down is job one. But certainly, continuing to look to also reward the shareholder through dividends, and then we will frame in as we move forward some more specifics on that.

Operator

Operator

Perfect. Thank you, and I will see you next week.

Edward J. Lehner

Management

Thanks, Katja. Look forward to it.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. If you wish to ask a question, please signal by pressing star-1 on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. We will take our next question from Samuel J. McKinney from KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Samuel J. McKinney

Analyst

Hey. Good morning, guys.

Richard Marabito

Analyst

Hi, Sam.

Samuel J. McKinney

Analyst

Just going back to Katja’s first question, this was not a Ryerson-specific headwind this week. But you talked about the challenge in passing through rising mill prices to customers. Were there products, and maybe aluminum, where that struggle was more pronounced than others?

Edward J. Lehner

Management

Yeah. I would say that

Richard Marabito

Analyst

of the three commodities, I would say that aluminum has probably been the slowest to propagate through, but that is picking up now in terms of the ability to start to get those price increases through the value chain. But, yeah, if you are asking about aluminum specifically, I would say of the three, that is probably been the toughest when you look at when that price started to go up—around April—on a, you know, on a regression line where it really started to turn up in April and it has continued to move higher. You know, sitting here today, you know, past February, carbon—you know that story. I mean, it is like a sticky ride, right? And now finally, we have got some momentum upward on carbon, which has been good to see. And it has been somewhat gradual. It has not really spiked the way it has in years past, and that is a good story. And then stainless was really—I mean, stainless and nickel have been beat up for what I will call structural reasons and also cyclical reasons. But, you know, as Nick Weber has said, you know, we finally maybe caught a bid on stainless where we have seen that now move higher over the last several months, and so that is starting to get into the price book as well.

Samuel J. McKinney

Analyst

Okay. And then the first quarter same-store volume guidance up in the mid-teens sequentially, safely above your historical seasonality. Are you starting to see some restocking or some more activity from some of your major industrial customers?

Richard Marabito

Analyst

Yeah. I mean, the real story of 2025 for us was transactional was up 11-plus percent, and OEM was down 8%. And that was really the first time we have seen that type of decoupling when it comes to directional movements, you know, within an industrial metals manufacturing cycle. You know, so I would say that overall we are seeing, on balance—we referenced—we are seeing a stronger market consistent with a stronger PMI print, and now industrial production and orders are moving in the same direction. So we are tracking that really well. I also think it is a function of the improvements that we have made. It is a function of how well Olympic is over the last several years and how well they continue to execute. And so I think it is also us getting better and improving and bringing those investments through finally to full, you know, to full operating status. But let me kick it over to Rick and, you know, he will give you some more color. Yeah. Could not agree more. I think—and you know, Sam, just from following the Olympic story—much the same in terms of some of the concentrations of investments over the last year or two. So we had a pretty heavy CapEx—I will call it—last 18 to 24 months. A lot of those investments are really just coming to fruition right now and are phasing in over—I will call it—fourth quarter into second quarter of this year. So, again, you know, a little wind in the sails from the market plus, you know, some of the self-investment. We are optimistic about growth. Eddie mentioned the PMI finally. I do not need to—you know, we do not need to keep continuing the historical bad news, but, you know, wow. How many months in a row and how many out of two years were we going to have PMIs printing down? So, yeah, feel pretty good about the momentum in the market. Feel really good about the combination of the two companies. And really excited about really showing everybody what we are going to be able to do in terms of those synergies and really bringing the combined strengths of the two companies together. And, really, that is what it is all about—being able to service our customers better with more capabilities, additional geography, and, you know, we are on it. I tell you, we got off to a—you know, I called it—I said we want to get off to a running start. I think we got off to a sprinting start. But just excited about all that. And, again, it is good to have a little

James J. Claussen

Management

wind behind us. So, yeah.

Edward J. Lehner

Management

And Sam, let me give you a little bit more—

Richard Marabito

Analyst

I would say a little bit more of the inside baseball when we look at how does our company operate. I think how does the industry operate. Stability is a big thing. I mean, you are going to take a hit when you make investments. If you shut down a service center that has been in a place for a long time and you build a new one and you do greenfields—I mean, you know—greenfields will shorten your life expectancy. And I think it is hard to go through them, but once you are on the other side of them it is really, really good. So I will give you an example. Central Steel & Wire, where we moved out of Kenzie, and we moved to University Park—that was a 900,000 square foot greenfield. And when we bottomed out during the construction, just before the grand opening, volumes went down to about 520 tons a day, as an example. Okay? Well, bookings at CS&W—very proud of the team and the leadership there—bookings at CS&W are now over 780 tons a day, not including the intercompany work that they do for other Ryerson locations. So when you think about that incremental 260 tons, it is very meaningful, but I also think it is indicative of what happens when you do major CapEx greenfields and you do heavy investments in facilities, you do ERP conversions—you take a hit. And it is a hard thing to go through. But when you do get to the other side of it, things start to work and operate a lot better. And it then syncs up very well with what we see historically where if you have got the right balance of investment to go with, I would say, stable, consistent, well-performing operations, you start to really realize that upside operating leverage in your network, and things start to get and look a lot better.

Samuel J. McKinney

Analyst

Okay. Thanks. I appreciate all the color on that question. And then last one for me. Increasing the revolver by $500,000,000 to $1,800,000,000 in the context of trying to get back down to the leverage range. What is the chance you use this to explore more M&A, and if so, could you do this before the achievement of synergies, or are those mutually exclusive? And what do you feel you need to round out the now combined portfolio?

Richard Marabito

Analyst

I think we finally have, like, half the CFO questions—we will be able to pop that over to Jim and Rich. But I would just say, Sam, I mean, when it comes to M&A, we just did a huge transaction, and I want to emphasize to keep the main thing the main thing. I do not think you ever look away from what could truly be an exceptional opportunity, but you are just so much more selective because you really do not want it to fracture the attention of the organization on what it is we really have to do first and foremost, which is get our marks, get the synergies, and boost the overall performance that flows through our financials. So that really is the priority. But let me send it over to Jim and Rich.

James J. Claussen

Management

Yeah. Good morning, Sam. I mean, Eddie really really touched on it. I mean, we did amend and extend the ABL, raising it up, you know, in order to really work through this merger and put the company in a good spot to continue to grow forward. But right now, as we sit here week one in, it is full speed ahead on working through the synergy case, continuing to operate the business, serve our customers, and we will continue to work through our capital allocation plans.

Richard Manson

Analyst

And Rich Manson is the synergy czar. So, Rich, what do you think? Yeah. No. I think Rick said it well earlier. As soon as the merger was done, we jumped in with both feet and started sprinting. And so lots of people involved, lots of great ideas. And we look forward to tackling and hitting all the numbers that we have set forth. We will do it.

Samuel J. McKinney

Analyst

Alright. Thanks, guys. Good luck, and nice to talk to you again.

Edward J. Lehner

Management

Hey. Thanks, Sam.

Operator

Operator

As a reminder, to ask a question, please press—We will now take our next question from Alan W. Weber from JP Capital.

Alan W. Weber

Analyst

Good morning.

Edward J. Lehner

Management

Hey. Good morning, Alan. Hey, Alan. Are you there?

Alan W. Weber

Analyst

Yeah. I am here. Can you hear me? Yeah. So a question, you know, given you guys doing the merger, which sounds great, and then you have Klöckner being, you know, announced that they are going to be acquired. Can you talk about how you think about it longer term—more consolidation impact on Ryerson-Olympic and like that?

Edward J. Lehner

Management

Sure.

Richard Marabito

Analyst

Sure. You know, Alan, I think, you know, members of the team here have certainly socialized the reality that for a long, long time M&A activity was lacking in our sector. And it really is just a mathematical fact. If you look at consolidation on the mill side, you know what—consolidation on the customer side—we in the middle would just continue to really get squeezed given that there are, like, 7,500 firms that identify themselves as metal distributors, 2006 up to the present time. This was really a fantastic opportunity and move by both of our companies to do this, both when we look at the DNA of both organizations, but really in the larger industry as a whole. So answer is yes. I am really, really thrilled that we did it. I think our prospects are fantastic. And I think that the Worthington-Klöckner announcement, I think, is overall—it is a positive. It is healthy for the industry. Rick?

Edward J. Lehner

Management

I think you nailed it. I really have nothing to add to that.

Richard Marabito

Analyst

Consolidation is good for our industry, period.

James J. Claussen

Management

And Alan, it is—and it also is the customer experience.

Richard Marabito

Analyst

Like, we want to get closer to the customer. We have more touch points. We can get closer. You know, Andrew Greif has started out leading the supply chain integration council, the commercial integration council. And Andrew can give you some color too on just how attractive the opportunities look, you know, with the combined companies. Andrew?

Edward J. Lehner

Management

Well, think, Eddie, you said it right. The

Richard Marabito

Analyst

opportunity to take two great storied companies, and as customers today, the industrial OEM is really looking for help. And one of the first things they look at is the balance sheet of the companies that can help support them. I think you take this combination—it really sends a very strong message to our large customers that not only are we there financially to be able to support them, but if you look at the investments that the two companies have made over the last three to five years, really taking everything downstream as the customer today is looking for, you know, not just the rectangle of what was, you know, once upon a time important in our business, but, you know, finished welded product that is going directly into their assembly—there are not a lot of people that can do that to the scale that our large customers are looking. So I think the consolidation in this one is going to be fantastic for our customers. We have already gotten a number of calls as to what can we do collectively to try to help them grow their business, and we are excited to get in front of the customer.

Edward J. Lehner

Management

Yeah. And, I mean, I think, look, the better

Richard Marabito

Analyst

the better solution we offer, the more repeat business and growth we are going to see. We just have to really make sure that the experience we offer is, you know, to the highest level and meets our aspirations for what we want to deliver post-merger.

Alan W. Weber

Analyst

Great. Thank you, and good luck.

Edward J. Lehner

Management

Hey, Alan. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

As we have no further questions, I would like to turn the conference back to Edward J. Lehner for any additional or closing remarks.

Edward J. Lehner

Management

No. Really, thanks so much for your support. We really look forward to being with you next quarter to report out on how we are doing with our synergies, how the business is operating, and I look forward to the next call. Thank you. Everybody stay well.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.