De Lyle Bloomquist
Management
Okay. Well, good morning, Matthew. Talk about the destocking of acetate in China. And, actually, I would say it's probably global. This is really, I think, taking our own direct customers a little bit by surprise themselves. We look at the supply chain from our product all the way up into the actual cigarette sticks, there seems to be an overstocking throughout the supply chain. With respect to ourselves, the order book for 2025 was reduced by the large consumers of the acetate product that we make. And as a consequence, although we were able to maintain share, our volumes did come down. But we were able to raise price. So, again, continuing to push the value over volume there. In terms of percentages, in terms of a decline in demand, I would say it's in the single digits, roughly. Certainly, let's say, mid-single-digit impact relative to last year. The expectation of how long this is going to last, I mean, this lasted longer than we thought it would. We thought this would be well over, well behind this going into 2025. But, you know, right now, we really don't have any clear sight of when this is going to end. So we'll just keep our ear to the rail, so to speak, and we'll inform investors as we get new information. As for ethers demand, we're seeing improvement in 2024. Some of that improvement was due to restocking, but also an increase in demand from a few end uses, principally food and pharma. Construction continues to be a little weak, but, again, we expect that the demand will continue to increase in ethers in those two segments that we saw improvements in 2024. And there may be some upside on construction activity, particularly around, you know, if the wars in Gaza and Ukraine end, construction activity may pick up, and that obviously will then drive construction-related ethers demand.