Paul Boynton
Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed with your question
Sandy, I’m just going to add and maybe it goes to some other folks with the same question. I think as you look at our disappointing results and coming in with a $76 million EBITDA for 2019. And then we said, look, our primary goal is to ensure that we remain in compliance with our financial covenants regardless of these markets. The question’s got to be, well, guys, is that all manageable? And we’ve thrown out a lot of different numbers here on the positive and some on the negative. And I thought it’s probably just worthwhile, and maybe, Marcus, if you can just kind of tick along with me here on these numbers. But I do want to kind of help build the numbers up a little bit so that you have them. Because, again, I think you’ll see it’s a very straightforward path to compliance in 2020, but let’s just start and just kind of recap on some of these, right? One, we have some market help, right? We talked about the Forest Products, right? That’s, at current pricing, will be EBITDA-positive. We’ve got some cost benefit, right, so we’ve got reduced chemicals and as well as fiber costs, certainly in our Paperboard business, that is significantly a benefit to us. We also have, as we mentioned, duties in two different areas, right? We just – and Frank talked about it. China tier is coming off on March 2. We should get the benefit of it into this quarter or beginning of next quarter, and that’s a substantial benefit to us. If again, if you consider, we’ve got $230 million of product coming from the U.S. going to China. And the other duties that we talked about and we talked about with Steve there. 20% Forest Products, lumber duties going down to 8% in August, annualized. That’s at least a $10 million benefit for us. So you got the market elements. You got some duties. And then we’ve got actions that we’ve talked about that we’re taking. And number one is just recovering some really poor operations last year, particularly in the HPC business, right? So we’re going to have lower cost and higher volumes. Two, we’ve talked about the continuous improvement and kind of pushing forward with our third year of synergies. That’s also a significant benefit for us. Three, we just talked about the corporate cost and targeting a $50 million corporate cost versus $65 million in 2019, and then finally, we haven’t talked about this, but we also have a new product that will be launched out here in April. And I think in the back half of the year, it will also give us some nice EBITDA benefit. And so really, I think positive opportunities for us in 2020 that leads us to a very straightforward pathway to compliance in 2020, and I think that’s got to be a question on folks’ mind, but we did said there’s potential offsets to that. Frank mentioned that fluff and viscose pricing are at levels that are below 2019, so that’s going to be a negative offset. We’ve got a newsprint market that’s very challenged. Right? And it will be challenged, I think, to be breakeven EBITDA for the year. So that’s an offset as well. And then you got the coronavirus, which is an overlay on all of it. So – but that’s why we said, look, those things we’re going to have additional actions that we’re going to take and look at, to go ahead and make sure that regardless of what economics come our way, that we will be positive in it for the balance of the year. And so we went through a lot, Marcus, and I thought you’ve taken notes here, maybe you can run through and just kind of put some dollars to those benefits.