Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Second Quarter 2018 Rapid7 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time. [Operator Instructions] And as a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today’s conference Mr. Jeff Bray. Sir, you may begin.

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, everyone. We appreciate you joining us to discuss Rapid7’s Q2 2018 financial and operating results in addition to our financial outlook for the third quarter and full fiscal year 2018. I am Jeff Bray, VP of Investor Relations. And I’m here today with Corey Thomas, our President and CEO; and Jeff Kalowski, our CFO. We distributed our Q2 2018 earnings press release over the wire and it is now posted on our website at investors.rapid7.com. We have also posted our updated company presentation and financial metrics file on our Investor Relations website, which includes additional information to help explain the impact of shifting to 606 on our Q2 financials. This call is being webcast and can be accessed at investors.rapid7.com. The webcast of this call will be archived and a telephone replay will be available on our website until August 13, 2018. We would like to bring the following to your attention; the date of this call is August 6, 2018. Discussion today contains forward-looking statements about events and circumstances that have not yet occurred, including without limitations, statements regarding our objectives for future operations and future financial and business performance. These forward-looking statements are based on our current expectations and beliefs and on information currently available to us. Statements containing words such as anticipate, believe, continue, estimate, expect, intend, may, will and other similar statements are intended to identify such forward-looking statements. Actual outcomes and results may differ materially from the expectations contained in these statements due to a number of risks and uncertainties, including those contained in the risk factors section of our most recent Quarterly Report on Form 10-Q filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on May 9, 2018, and subsequent reports that we filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.…

Thank you, Jeff, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you all for joining us today on our second quarter 2018 earnings call. Rapid7 had a great second quarter with strong performance around the world and across our products. Our cloud-based SecOps solution addressed the fastest growing markets in security. And our shift towards the current revenue is going much better than expected. For the fourth quarter in a row, ARR growth accelerated. We achieved 44% growth this quarter. The financial highlights for Q2, 2018 were under ASC 605 recurring revenue grew 43% and total revenue grew 30%. And we made continued progress towards hitting our 2018 and 2019 profitability goals. As a result of our first half performance along with a solid second half pipeline, we are raising our guidance for the rest of the year highlighted by our new goal for 2018 ARR growth of over 40%. We have increased confidence in achieving the goals that we outlined at our recent Analyst Day of growing ARR over 30% and revenue over 20% through 2020. Our strong results were driven by continued strong execution across our go-to-market teams, a set of market leading products, our adoption of an ARR-focused strategy and the recognition by enterprises of the strategic value of our cloud-based SecOps products. The second quarter was our first full quarter offering all of our products on a subscription basis and with sales compensation based on ARR. Our go-to-market teams have quickly adapted to our new approach. And we’re beginning to realize the productivity benefits of our corporate focus on recurring revenue. Looking at our markets, enterprises are operating in increasingly complex IT environments, and yet they have not focused on the core maintenance and management of their technology. Security teams understand that the key question is no longer, am…

Thanks Corey. Before I begin discussing our strong results for the second quarter 2018, I want to remind everyone that as of January 1st, we’ve adopted ASC 606 on a modified retrospective basis. And therefore, we'll report each quarter's results under both ASC 606 and ASC 605. We’ve included all of these details in our earnings press release today. When discussing our year-over-year growth rates and other key trends in our business, we will be comparing our results on an ASC 605 basis, as we don't have prior year operating results under 606, and a comparison would not be meaningful. We’re pleased with our strong performance in the second quarter, which yield guidance on all key metrics and was highlighted by accelerating ARR growth of 44%. First, I'll briefly discuss our results on an ASC 605 basis. Total revenue for the second quarter of 2018 was $61.6 million, an increase of 30%, and ahead of guidance. Recurring revenue was 77% of total revenue in the second quarter of 2018, up from 70% in 2017, and which is growth of 43%. Looking at the business geographically. In Q2, North America comprised 84% of revenues, growing 29%, rest of world revenue increased 33% year-over-year and contributed 16% of total revenue in the second quarter. Our rest of the world revenue growth continues to be impacted due to a large services deal recognized in Q2, 2017, but our ARR growth from outside of North America continues to be very strong. On an ASC 605 basis, non-GAAP operating loss was $5.7 million, also meaningfully better than our guidance of a loss of $1.7 million to $7.8 million and adjusted EBITDA loss was $3.9 million for the second quarter compared to a loss of $5 million in the prior year period. Our operating margin improved…

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Rob Owens of KeyBanc Capital. Your line is open.

I want to just touch on how you’ve expanded the portfolio and you’ve mentioned this in your couple quarters with all products on a subscription basis. Help me understand what that’s doing to your competitive position and where you’re seeing strong new customer acquisition. I’m guessing on the VM side that’s not greenfield. So who and what and where are you displacing your competition at this point? And is it the single VM sale or is it more kind of buying into the entire portfolio?

So it’s early days for the overall consolidation but we are seeing an early indicator that evidence around. And so lots of what I would call our non-competitive deal, our deal where customers have a great experience on our platform, which is very quickly getting adoption not to consider from other numbers earlier. But we got platform vehicle to get adoption with customer who have a great experience. When they have other needs, they're quite willing to actually explore the other capabilities that we have on the platform. And while it’s early days, we’re seeing more than enough evidence that that is a strong value proposition, especially for existing customers. As per the new customer acts at a distant, I would say that it’s pretty evenly distributed. You can see really two big areas where we added new customers, one is a VM space and I’ll come back to that in second. And the other area -- and the IDR space with the SIEM space with InsightIDR. Both of those are core contributors, which we've said before. It was a pleasant surprise for us. So we can actually fit into a new market and have customers -- we're going to have prospects and customers adopting our technologies in those spaces. And that’s really an estimate not just the platform, but to the technology strategy that we’ve taken on by actually having best of breed technology solutions on a common platform. And I emphasize that again, I think, what’s unique is that make [indiscernible] have a consolidated platform is one good solution and a bunch of New Yorker solution. We took quite different approaches, but we actually are consolidated on a common platform that adds platform value. But we are designing and have designed all of our solutions to be best of breed quality. And I think that gives us a unique advantage there. Specifically to your question about the vulnerability management market, we still see greenfield opportunity in the mid-market was continued to actually do effective job of adding net new customers there. We do see displacements though in customers that are looking to upgrade their programs. And that displacement is to both in legacy markets where you actually have traditional VM players that are not longer back in the market. And we see that with some of our main line competitors where we see customers looking to upgrade their programs and they really value the investments that we placed not just on prioritization with the investment that's been and workloads and integration to their existing infrastructure with our tech composition. So those are the dynamics that we see. And just to add more commentary around the growth that we saw from ARR last quarter. Overall our products grew quite strongly. But what we saw was that we've had extraordinarily healthy growth across all of our product categories.

Great. And then for completely unrelated follow-up relative to the mix shift that's occurring more rapidly than you might have assumed initially. Is that a function of how you're incentivizing your sales force? Is that just where customers want to buy, anything to do with the channel on that front? And how does that impact kind of the 2019 targets? Thanks.

Yes. So one very clear focus is we shifted, we talked about this before is we learned from others one of the benefits of the shift to subscription when we made is that that we have the opportunity to learn from others. But we did shift our sales compensation model to the basis of ARR this year was a relatively big change. And I would say there are two factors. One is our sales team has done a great job of adopting and moving to ARR. The second thing that's important to know is that we have a strong customer reception. These things are always harder if you actually push it stuff on the customers. And at this stage, we actually have a positive customer reception, which is made the transition much more than we could have anticipated.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Saket Kalia of Barclays Capital. Your line is open.

Hey guys, it's Saket Kalia of Barclays. Thanks for taking my questions here. Hey, so first maybe for you Jeff Kalowski. Nice acceleration in the ARR. I think that Corey kind of talked about what worked from a product perspective. It sounded very much across the board. But maybe from your perspective, if you think about sort of the benefit or the growth in that metric coming from existing customers shifting to SaaS versus kind of the new customers that are adopting SaaS to begin with. How do you think about that dynamic even qualitatively? And how it's helping the ARR number?

Yes. So Saket, first of all, as Corey said, we had strong ARR growth across all the product lines. And then particularly we had strong upsells and cross-sells. But if you recall existing customers that were formally exposed and then shifted to our SaaS offering, we did not raise the price on their renewal other than nominal inflationary increase, because what we didn't want to do is penalize those customers for shifting sort of platform. The motive was shifting to the platform will drive more cross-sell and more upsell. And at our Analyst Day, we showed the examples of where we were on our perpetual products and that the ARR was in that sort of 40% to 50% range on the ARR piece that's the annuity going forward. So the existing customers really did not driving ARR growth. When they convert, they convert at basically their current renewal rate plus an inflationary increase.

Got it. That's super helpful. Maybe my follow-up for you, Cory. You touched on a little bit on the prepared remarks around geographic expansion, I think, Canada and Australia, maybe just more strategically. Can you talk about how big you think the international business can be for Rapid7 down the road? And whether we’re seeing some of the same strategic focus on VM as a spend category internationally as maybe we are seeing here in the U.S.?

It’s a great question. So if you look at where we are and we have been for a little bit. We’re in the 15, 16-ish percentage range of the international, as a percentage of our total business. And we make that has great mean to actually go up overtime. I’d say one of the things to keep in mind that has been balancing the scales a little bit and sort of mix that growth rate a little bit slower because there we’ve introduced a lot of new products both our platform and parts on our platform over the last two years. And when we think about it is that traditionally weighing through that into a single market first and ramp from there. And so that’s put a little bit of the weight and the buyers to the U.S. for the introduction. And then you actually add both territories and localization as you go forward. So we think we have plenty of growth and as far the natural evolution and that’s why you’re starting to see the expansion of both new regions around the world that that actually have our platform. It has gotten trickier because of the geopolitical issues where you do need to have influences around the world. And we’ve done an effective job of continuing to add instances around the world, but then also local team and local support. So we are very, very optimistic that our international and global business will continue to grow in excess of our overall business. And then it would actually get to more normative rate as a percentage of total revenue as you go forward. As far as your question about demand, I would say demand is picking up substantially outside of the U.S., specifically in Europe and in pockets of Asia. We see good drop in places like Australia. However, I would say that it's still lag to U.S. in terms of the intensity of the spin and the intensity of the focus, which is why we actually see that as a good growth opportunity. It's an area where you already have market traction, you have market awareness, the regulatory environment is increasing over there and we’re seeing increasing both traction and growth and opportunity pipeline. So I figured them in, which are healthy but it’s not quite to the U.S. level both in VM and I’ll say broadly in overall security market.

Thank you. Our next question from the line of Gur Talpaz of Stifel. Your line is open.

Congrats on the quarter and apologies if there’s some background noise here at the airport. Corey, if you think about hitting the ARR target for the year, what assumptions are you making that could be comfortable there with the big bump in the forecast here. Because if I read the numbers, you’re effectively calling for about $30 million plus of net expansion from current levels to put a big bump from here on that, but you got on very, very confident. So can you give us some granularity to what you kind of assuming within that assumption or in that forecast?

Yes, you can imagine that we actually put a great deal of scrutiny. But if you look at areas we think, especially want to raise target. I’d say we were comfortable with the opportunities. One, the easiest thing to look at is -- there are really three things to go through: one is what does your past performance indicate? The second is what’s your pipeline indicate? Because I guess, you get visibility into what you see both in the third quarter, but also pipeline for the fourth quarter and you look at a trend there. And then I’d say one of the most important things that we’re really obsessed about as a company is the productivity of our sales rep and our teams. So how are we doing in both retaining and management team. We continue to have better than expected -- retention of our sales team, lower efficient on the sales team. We continue to be conservative in our assumptions there. And we're also seeing healthy installed productivity from that team. And you can imagine that the lower attrition of the sales team is really a testament to the fact that they are not just enjoying the culture they experienced at Rapid7, but they're also effectively able to engage customers and to sell that platform and the suite of products that we have under our products basis. And that all contributes to what drive that 40% forecast again. Past performance opportunity pipeline and the productivity of our core sales team is the thing that we look at when we look at how we both forecast our business as we go forward.

Yes, that's really helpful. And maybe just kind of going a little bit more high level here. If you look across the VM world, it kind of feels we got pretty good place to be in security these days. Do you kind see this as a function of the breach environment meaning more ransomware type breaches working in your favor? Or do you think we're seeing kind of a broader change in mentality as customers ultimately value these solutions kind of more than they did perhaps even a few quarters or years ago?

Yes, I would say that one there is no -- we've always said that, when you think about security operations in SecOps, VM is a great core to have is because it is at least half of the overall visibility story that you actually need. One half being the asset -- one asset and what the risk in the closure and vulnerability of those assets all that have be the data that's talked out what's the activity in the environment and what's happening in the environment. VM has half of the visibility that you actually need to actually run the effective security operation. And so as people and organizations get more focus on how they effectively run their security operations, they become more and more obsessed with visibility. And that's why you see that saying not just in VM but also in [Indiscernible] and other technologies that provide visibility. And I would say the whole visibility sector in general is doing quite well these days.

That's helpful. Thanks a lot congrats again.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matt Hedberg of RBC. Your line is open.

Hey guys, thanks for taking my questions. Well done. Corey, ARR per customers impressive. It looks like you're only in the first few innings there. I think you've said that, I think, your average customer takes about 1.5 solutions. And I believe you've said you think you can increase ARR per customer seven times from here. I guess, first of all is that seven times assumptions based on currently available products? And second, we hear a lot about IDR and VM. But how is InsightOps contributing to that upsell?

It's a great question. So if you recall at our Analyst Day, we really had three categories that we talked about. One is the overall vulnerability and risk management category, which includes the InsightVM and the InsightAspect and they're related to the on-premise component, InsightIDR for the same category. And then we talked about the security -- the core operations on analytics base that included both the Komand and the follow-up to Komand, the cloud-based follow-up to Komand as well as InsightOps. I would say that for our 7x, it includes InsightOps although we are seeing such material attraction on the VM, IDR aspect side. That's consuming most of our bandwidth right now. One of the things that you'll see over the coming year is a greater focus and greater resource allocation almost the InsightOps and on the Komand side and the platform version of Komand. And Komand is not built into the model of the multiple that we actually have that we talked about at the Analyst Day. So we see a really strong multiple of ARR available to us. And we see upside to that as we continue to actually invest and launch new things as we before.

That's great. And maybe as a follow-up, you guys have talked about your integration with VM and IDR with Azure. Can you talk a little bit more about what that partnership means? Is there any sort of feedback -- beta customer feedback that you can share with us on that particular relationship?

I'm sorry, but can you just repeat the question one more time?

Yes, integrating InsightVM and IDR with Azure. I believe you guys talked about that during the quarter as sort of a new announcement. I'm just kind of curious on feedback on that particular integration.

Absolutely. It goes back to the discussion we’re having around visibility is that one of the drivers of visibility is that people change and resources are constrained, and you can't manage which you can’t see. And as IT organization is increasingly adopt more AWS, more Azure, they need the visibility to understand what assets they have in those environments. What’s the vulnerability and risk profile of those environments? And what are the activities? And is it indicated normal behavior or some indicator of compromise? One of the investments that we continue to make is how do we actually have best-in-class visibility both in AWS and Azure. And both of those are critical environments for us to be able to obsess the asset footprint an organization have, look at the risk profile and look at the activity in those environments for indicators to compromise.

Our next question comes from the line of Gregg Moskowitz of Cowen & Company. Your line is open.

This is Mike on for Greg. Thanks for taking the question. To start off, this is your first full quarter under what essentially is now a subscription only model. How has the customer response to the pricing changes been if you look across the U.S., Europe and Asia Pacific?

Again, it’s been much more positive than we anticipated. We’re practical about these things. We know that any type of things can have friction. And I would say that we’ve had a lower share of friction that we expected as we’ve done the change. I mean, I think one of the key things to understand about up and close is we really focus on sustainability. And the core of that is doing things that are going to benefit the customer. And so if you look, we’re not about how do we maximize the dollar in the current quarter and near-term? We've -- how do you have a great customer relationship, deliver great value to the customer, and then maximize the overall lifetime value of the relationship that you have with the customer. And so, that led us, as Jeff indicated in his comments earlier, to taken that close that was very effective of how to minimize customer friction, not just Rapid7 friction. And in fact, that’s one of the continue areas of our focus of the business is reducing more and more barriers for our customers and minimizing the overall customer friction. And I think part of the warm reception that we've had to our subscription transition as well customers have recognized that is the intent and work with us.

And as from my follow-up, what are you seeing or hearing as it relates to SIEM refresh activity? Thanks.

We continue to see a robust environment. There’s really two things I talk about there is that it’s clear that organizations are focused on how they actually shift from just having the SIEM that's really combine focus to how do they do great detection. And that’s a shift that benefited us because we have been focused about how do you great detection and we continue to add any compliance or any capability for detection is the core of what we do. The second thing that’s clear is that customer's value that we have an economic model that’s aligned with the custom. Again, you can’t -- just like you can’t manage if you can’t see, you can’t detect when you don’t have visibility. And our model that makes it easy for customers to have visibility across their entire platform because our detection is based on an IP model, not a purely storage model where customers have unpredictable pricing, that's been very, very well received by the market because it allows them to have the confidence. So they have the visibility to do the detection that they want, but in a model that fits with their overall growth objectives.

Thank you. And next question comes from the line of Jonathan Ho, William Blair. Your line is open.

Good afternoon, and congrats on the strong results. I just wanted to start out with Komand. Can you talk a little bit about your expectations around the release? And maybe what are our customers sort of looking for -- and just given the demand for increasing automation?

And we say the great thing is that the automation of orchestration market or the store market is Gartner calls the full security. It is an early stage market in this incarnation but it's replacing a lot of the manual workload and lots of the previous technologies that looked at IT and security processes that are there. And the core demand for it is that there is a not enough people capacity to do all the work that needs to be done. And by the way, lots of the work is repetitive in orientation. And so our customers felt it can be quite mundane. So customers have this issue where they're spending a great deal of their bandwidth on things that are mundane and competitive, but yet they don't have the capacity that is truly ketchup and make a difference. That's why you see this activity customer focus on orchestration and automation. Our focus on the orchestration and automation market is to actually making a mainstream solution where not just a nano sort of customers but tens of thousands of customers can receive the benefit of a powerful but yet simple orchestration and automation solution that allows them to really give a multiplicative effect on their overall technology and security workforce. And that's what we've been building up and that's what we've been extending is of all types of workloads where you're looking about the automating parts of detection, automating parts of remediation, automation parts of containment, automating part of the IT management process related security. There were lots of pre-build both integration and workflows that come along today and will come along with our solutions in the future, but our goal really is to drive the productivity of our IT and security teams. And that's where the timing, as I said in my prepared remarks, you'll hear more about that in the second half of this year. We have a big focus on that.

And then just as a follow-up, when we think about sort of the platform adoption that's happening. How often are you seeing customers maybe buy multiple elements to start out with? Is that increasing or about the same and sort of the willingness to add on to the platform overtime? Just wanted to get some maybe qualitative detail on what you're seeing there?

Yes, it's interesting because you saw that our total renewal rate which includes cost on upsells -- went upsell with 120%. What's interesting is we're seeing an overall increase in the ARR per customer transaction that we had in the quarter. And that's driven by a couple of things as customers are wanting more visibility when they start off, they historically have, versus a sort of nearly positive thing. But it's also customers are starting to look at multiple solutions together and purchasing multiple solutions together. So it's definitely going up. It's going up in noticeable way. It's just that we have a big customer base that you're looking at there. And so you continue to see ongoing improvement in that, but we've got more than enough positive feedback from customers that our consolidation platform has based on best of the technology is clearly a value.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Turits of Raymond James. Your line is open.

Very strong quarter. Question on the guide -- is to raise for the year and raised for next quarter, but less so just pretty much where it was on EBIT EPS et cetera. So you’ll be getting operating leverage year-over-year, but not so much really out of the incremental raise here. So where’s that incremental spend and it seems like some of that's certainly coming year-over-year in sales and marketing?

Yes, Michael, great question and you’re absolutely right. It really comes in two areas. One is we got more customer visibility. We realize that we have the capacity to do growth and strong growth that was accretive to our long-term economic. We’re making investments this year that will grow the customer base but because we understand the productivity and what it costs to get a customer and the value of customer product over a longer-term time horizon. We’re really investing in both growth and long term and mid-term profitability together. Again we have pretty clear line of sight into the overall customer economics. The second thing that I would say was, it could be at least, it could be a good portion of what we’re looking at there is we are having to increase investment in systems. And the reason for that is we have a very, very positive shift to the overall subscription and cloud-based subscription model and we’re really looking forward to think about how do we actually optimize the customer experience next year, but also how do we make sure that we continue to have strong renewal rates, but at the right cost leverage as we go forward combined with the overall customer experience. So we are investing in our overall systems that allow to scale because we have the higher confident in our overall growth profile as we go forward.

Yes, Michael, you’re right and that we did. We are investing the revenue upside. But I just want to point out that last quarter we were 33% plus ARR that we’ve raised that number to 40% plus. So that those investments will help drive a higher exiting ARR growth and what we were seeing in the previous quarter based on strong demand and pipeline.

And if I could a follow-up is on -- obviously, the discussion -- discussing IDR in the SIEM market. Can you talk about the SIEM market from a competitive perspective? Are you seeing all the major SIEM vendors? Are you seeing primarily those who are cloud-based like yourself? How is it shaking out from segmentation perspective?

Yes, so I would say from what we see in new deals, I mean, they’re not sort of like a Rapid7 customers that are just looking to add on some capabilities to the platform. It is across all vendors and part of things to keep in mind that is that we are really the only cloud-based vendor upscale that is focused on security what the security analytics and SIEM offering. And so the people that we see there is some of this course there and they have a strong position there. But their cloud solution isn’t their default solution and their sales force really isn’t authorized around that. We definitely see some legacy -- are excited some legacy IBM there. But it’s not as strong as it once was and so that’s a good thing for us. And then there’s a bunch of other smaller players in the market that we see a occasionally.

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Anne Meisner with Susquehanna Financial. Your line is open.

Thanks for taking my question and congrats on the strong quarter by the way. Cory, you had previously said that your target of growing ARR 30% through 2020 assumes underlining VM growth of 15%, and that’s the deceleration from what you’ve previously seen also it would represent slower growth than what it looks like the broader VM market is seeing. So would you kind of maybe update that assumption? Now that it looks like your overall ARR number is coming in much stronger than you would have anticipated?

I just say 15% plus.

That's fair.

It's clear that we're seeing very strong dynamic in the overall VM market. And we think they are sustainable. The reason I would say is that sticky thing about the cost segmentation there is that what we are primarily focused on with our total ARR growth and how do we maximize both the value that we provide to our customers and the customer economics. It's really immaterial to me about which bucket it falls in. So if you look at both lots of our go-to-market strategy and lots of our pricing analysis, it starts with one how do we maximize customers' value to how do we maximize customer adoption and penetration. And then from that, that really drive how we actually think about our pricing strategy. And our pricing strategy really then drops which bucket's being going into. I just want to reiterate that because the VM market is an incredibly, incredibly healthy. You have sort of like of -- three major players that all have growth of over 20%. And that's really an outcome of the visibility-driven customer demand. As far as what we manage to though, we are managing to how do we maximize both the total ARR and the ARR per customer. And because we have a more fully flushed portfolio, we are optimizing around our portfolio of pricing in our portfolio go to market on our cloud-based platform. And so that is the primary driver that we have there. And so again, we are consistent with what our total ARR growth rates are and saw we've raised the number for the second half of the year. We're extraordinarily confident about sort of what we committed to for '19 and '20. But we're not going to do the sub-segment adjustments at this time because we're really focused on optimizing total customer economics.

Okay, that's fair. And then maybe just a quick update on the type of behavior analytics capability that you added back in April. Any impact so far that you can see in terms of customer success stories or win rates?

Absolutely. That was a very, very clear differentiator. For those of you that may not be aware is that we have the benefit of having extraordinarily talented consulting and cyber security advisory team that everything for forensic, the penetration testing to security program development to help organization build their cyber security programs. One of the big initiatives that we've actually have is to have that team to become more and more strategic overtime, really adding more value to our customers. And that's a big part of the reason that you see a focus less on the volume of services deals and more on the quality and the impact of the services that we're having on our customers. We're now able to take the learnings that we have from those customers engagements in aggregate from the talented team that we have and we're able to include that knowledge in our products that help us as to the same type of analysis that we do for our customers to operationalize that in our products that helped our overwhelmed customers who need some of these deep technical expertise really do a more effective job of finding and detecting breadth in the environment. And that's the focus of the attacker behavior analytics. And as far as customer reception, it's been quite positive. Customers have a huge amount of respect for our services team. And they were thrilled that we are taking the learnings that we get from those services engagement and across path of those and getting those to a broad customer base.

That's helpful. Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Alex Henderson of Needham & Company. Your line is open.

I'm John [indiscernible] on for Alex. Thanks for taking my question. So I know recently you've announced the integration of the Insight platform with Microsoft Azure. I was just wondering if you could just possibly expand on some of the details regarding integration and if you’re seeing additional customers coming onto the platform as a result?

Yes, so the primary focus of the integration is to provide visibility into the Azure environment, and also provide, especially the same vulnerability and risk assessment. The one thing about cloud environment is whether it's Azure or AWS, configuration matters a lot more than vulnerability in those environments. Just look visibility of what I have, number of most organizations don’t know what they have in the environment. And then what’s the vulnerability state as it configured in the environment. And that’s the ongoing investment that we have in the cloud and that’s the investment that we have in Azure as well as monitoring those environments for indicators detect just like we monitor all aspects of the IP environment. So that’s the focus there. As far as the question about the customer demand, I said the earliest customer demand that we had was from our existing customers, which our customers, we have a large base of customers is growing and our customers are like many customers all over the world, they have complex environments that expand their both on-premise environments and their cloud environments. And so that’s the primary driver that we have there. We have very few customers that are Azure-only, we do have some that are AWS-only, but not that many. Most of our customers have a combination of an on-premise footprint. And I can just be their desktop, laptop and other things as well as a fast footprint that can be named by the CRM system, their human resources systems, as well as a cloud footprint that can be represented by the Microsoft Azure or AWS. And so we really see most customers falling into the category of having multiple complex environments that they need to have visibility into, they need to be able to analyze what the risk and vulnerability profile as well as analyze what the risk of exposure. And then we’re also helping them really drive the work that it takes to remediate and correct those environments through automation segments.

And so as a follow-up, I think in the past, you sort of talked about 1.5 solutions per customer. I think, at least that was a number in first quarter of '18. So just wondering if you had any updates on that metric, and if you just talk about how much of the growth is driven by IDR versus Ops versus VM?

That’s a great question. The day when we focus on that really show you the value of what we’re doing is the ARR per customer. Because the whole strategy about having multiple products on a common platform is that we’re driving the customer lifetime value, which is what happens when you go from that 1.5 to the roughly five plus customers, five plus products that we actually have per customers. The reason that we focus less on the products per customer on a quarterly basis, of course, the snapshot periodically is because they have a numerator denominator issue where we were both adding new customers at the same time that we’re increasing the number of products per customer. So that could be some noise there. The thing that really provides the economic value though is how we’re going to go on the ARR per customer and that's what really creates the economic value.

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our next question comes from the line of Melissa Franchi of Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Great. Thanks for taking my question. Corey or Jeff actually, you mentioned the percent of revenue that was recurring, but I'm wondering if you could give us the percent that's actually coming from Insight today. And then, I guess how we should think about the margin profile for Insight versus sort of the traditional term in maintenance, particularly around gross margins.

Yes, let me just go through those and Jeff can provide some specifics there. We're seeing very strong growth on our core platform, especially in the new sales. So the simple quantitative way to think about is that as we add new customers the great majority, especially in the U.S. customers that we are adding on our cloud-based platform. We do have sales to both the federal government and international customers outside of the U.S. that are on our sort of on-premise platform and that's expect and natural. But the number of customers and the rate of customers on our total platform is much more positive than we could have hoped or expected. It's not quite, but I believe it's approaching roughly the half of our overall customer base, it has at least one product on our Insight platform. And so that's great progress, not quite happy there. But where we -- considering the fact that where we actually [launched] these things in the recent timeframe, we made a lot of progress very, very fast in getting customer adoption on the overall platform. The second thing as far as the margin, I'll talk more on a strategic level, is really where we're optimizing our strategic level is one the ARR per customer; and two, the total margin profile of the company, because we have puts and takes, we have lower services mix as we indicated in our prepared remarks. The highest margin names you always have are the on-premise as customers are running -- and we have cloud-based products. I think our margin outlook is aligned with what we actually previously communicated. And that's really where we're managing to even though there is also puts and takes. We're really managing the overall margin profile that we've previously outlined for you.

What we're going to say is we don't breakout the specific product lines by revenue, but you see that the increasing amount of revenue is from our platform customers.

Great. Okay. And then I've just one quick follow-up on professional services. So you mentioned that you expect that revenue to be flat to down in FY'18. But is there a level at which you start to normalize and you see growth? Or do you expect this kind of continue to underpace total revenue growth?

Well, I think it's definitely going to underpace total revenue growth, especially as you go into out years because it's a difficult for a services business to actually keep up with their recurring revenue model in general. The second thing I would say around that is that we really not, I mean we have the luxury of having expanded our product portfolio and having one customer reception to our overall product portfolio. And so we have both the benefit and the luxury to really focus our services on things that have high strategic value for our customers are a strategic asset and part of our overall business, and that's the focus. So really we've oriented both our services team and our product team to focus on the quality of the work that we're doing for customers and less on the volumes that there. So I personally am not nor most of our teams focused about what the services number on an individual yearly basis. We're really focused about, one, how do we make sure that we have enough visibility so that we can do an active job forecasting for you all as we go through a quarter, but really we want to focus on what's the high quality business that we're doing for our customers.

Great. Okay. Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Thank you. And at this time, I’m showing no further questions. I’d like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Jeff Bray for the closing remarks.

Great. Thank you all for joining us today and looking forward to seeing you all over the next couple of months. Thanks.

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