Ridgepost Capital, Inc. (RPC) Q2 2026 Earnings Report, Transcript and Summary

Thank you. Good morning and welcome to Ridgepost Capital's Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Lateef, and I will be coordinating your call today. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded. I will now pass the call to your host, Brian McKenna, Vice President, Investor Relations. Brian, please go ahead.

Thank you, operator, and thank you all for joining our call this morning. With us today, we have Luke Sarsfield, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Amanda Coussens, EVP, Chief Financial Officer. After our prepared remarks, Arjay Jensen, EVP, Head of M&A and Strategy, and Sarita Jairath, EVP, Global Head of Client Solutions, will be available for the Q&A session. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that this conference call, as well as the presentation slides, may include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws, including the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements reflect management's current plans, estimates, and expectations and are inherently uncertain. Actual results for future periods may differ materially from those expressed or implied by forward-looking statements due to a number of risks and uncertainties that are described in greater detail in our earnings release and in our periodic reports filed from time to time with the SEC. The forward-looking statements included are made only as of the date hereof. We undertake no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements as a result of new information or future events, except as otherwise required by law. Please note that during this call, we'll reference certain non-GAAP measures that we believe can be useful in evaluating the company's performance. A reconciliation of these measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is available in the presentation slides posted on our website and in our filings with the SEC. In addition, we'll provide certain historical performance metrics for our funds, and further details can be found in the presentation slides. Of course, past performance does not guarantee future results. Before I turn it over to Luke, I want to spend a minute sharing my perspective on why I'm so excited to be at Ridgepost Capital. I spent 12-plus years in sell-side equity research covering financials, specifically the alternative asset managers and BDCs. So, I've interacted with a number of different companies and management teams across the industry. So, what stood out to me? First, the people, culture, and collaboration. Second, the durability of the model. Ridgepost Capital is one of the only pure-play, capital-light, management fee-based alternative asset managers in the public markets. And third, which I think is most important, the firm continues to deliver impressive investment performance. I'm thrilled to be here. I look forward to working with the team as we continue to tell and educate the market on the Ridgepost Capital story. And I'm excited to interact with all of our stakeholders in the coming months and quarters. With that, I'll turn the call over to Luke.

Thank you, Brian. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our call today. I'd like to start by welcoming Brian to Ridgepost Capital. Brian recently joined Ridgepost Capital to lead our investor relations efforts. Brian comes from Citizens, where he was a senior equity research analyst covering the alternative asset management and BDC sectors. His deep knowledge of our industry and strong relationships within the investment community make him an excellent addition to our team as we continue to prioritize transparency, accessibility, and proactive engagement with our shareholders. Many of you will have the opportunity to connect with Brian in the coming weeks and months, and we look forward to further strengthening our dialogue with the investment community. On an unrelated note, I did want to share some very sad news relating to the Ridgepost Capital family. One of our long-serving board members, Robert Stewart Jr., unexpectedly passed away recently. On behalf of everyone at Ridgepost Capital, we extend our deepest condolences to Rob's family and loved ones during this very difficult time. Rob was a dedicated supporter of Ridgepost Capital and a valued member of our board, whose guidance, insight, and friendship had a meaningful impact on our company and the people who worked alongside him. He will be greatly missed by all of us. Now, turning to Q2 earnings, Ridgepost Capital delivered another strong quarter of results as our balanced and durable model continues to perform well amid a fluid operating environment. As a reminder, this was our first full quarter rebranded as Ridgepost Capital, formerly known as P10. We reached two new milestones in the second quarter as AUM surpassed $50 billion at period end, up more than $10 billion, or approximately 25% year-over-year, while fee-paying AUM totaled nearly $35 billion at quarter end, up 19% year-over-year. Importantly, we continue to experience very strong investment performance across our strategies. In the past, we've aggregated investment performance across our key funds to highlight the underlying strength and differentiated returns we are delivering for all of our stakeholders. We thought it would be helpful to update those numbers and share them with you today. Looking at the net IRRs for funds that are greater than 5 years old, private equity primary funds have averaged 14.1%, while secondary and co-invest funds have averaged 23.1%. Our GP stakes funds at Bonaccord have averaged 18.9%, the flagship funds at our venture strategy TrueBridge have averaged 18.7%, and our private credit strategies have averaged 10.9%. Now, moving on to fundraising and deployment activity. Second quarter trends remained healthy. We were in the market with about 20 funds, and we raised a meaningful amount of investor commitments across each of our investment verticals. We raised and deployed $1.1 billion of capital in the quarter, bringing the trailing four-quarter total to nearly $5 billion. And we are still in the market with multiple funds across most of our strategies, including our GP stakes strategy, Bonaccord, our NAV lending strategy, Hark Capital, our venture capital strategy, TrueBridge, our lower middle market private equity strategies, RCP and Qualitas, as well as our project finance strategy, and small business lending strategy, Enhanced Capital. I do want to spend a minute on TrueBridge. We continue to see strong demand for our venture capital offerings as investors are increasingly focused on the growing dispersion in venture returns. This is why manager selection remains so important, and TrueBridge's track record of delivering differentiated performance for investors for nearly two decades continues to resonate in the market. To that point, TrueBridge has raised and deployed approximately $1.5 billion in the first half of this year. Bottom line, we believe the trajectory of our fundraising and capital deployment speaks directly to the strong demand we continue to see from LPs, the diversification of offerings across our strategies, as well as our ability to deploy capital consistently and prudently. In the first half of 2026, we organically raised and deployed over $3 billion of capital, consistent with our expectations heading into the year, which we had contemplated in our $10 billion fundraising and deployment target for 2026 and 2027. As previously highlighted, underlying growth in firm-wide fee-paying AUM remains strong as year-over-year growth totaled 19% in the second quarter, giving us comfort and line of sight into achieving our 2029 year-end fee-paying AUM target of $50 billion. To that point, at the time of the Investor Day in September 2024, when we disclosed this target, the implied fee-paying AUM CAGR was approximately 15%. We're pleased to report that our fee-paying AUM CAGR through the second quarter of 2026 stands at 20%. I also want to highlight the growing contribution from direct, co-investment, and secondary funds, or assets that are not in fund-of-funds vehicles. Over the past four quarters, these funds have raised and deployed over $2.7 billion of capital, representing over 55% of firm-wide capital raising and deployment activity. Moving on, and we've talked about this at length in prior quarters, but I think it's important to re-highlight the underlying structure of our business. We believe we have one of the most durable business models in the industry, specifically as we operate a capital-light, third-party asset management business, and our composition of earnings is entirely driven by FRE with no direct exposure to realizations. Notably, within FRE, approximately 98% of fee-related revenue was generated from management and advisory fees in the second quarter, so there was very little contribution from fee-related performance fees and other non-fee-related revenue streams, which tend to be more cyclical in nature. We primarily earn these contractual management fees on committed or deployed AUM that sit within long-dated and capital-committed investment strategies, meaning our fee-related revenue and fee-related earnings have little exposure to movements in NAV, while just less than 2% of our fee-paying AUM is subject to quarterly redemptions. On June 22nd, we completed the Stellus acquisition, and we are incredibly excited to have the Stellus team officially a part of Ridgepost Capital. We've spent a reasonable amount of time on our previous two calls reviewing the strategic merits and financial profile of the business and the transaction. I want to spend a moment today on our ongoing integration efforts and what we are doing to bring that strategic vision to life. You'll remember that we've talked about the opportunity to increase Stellus' origination funnel, given the strong fit within our GP sponsor ecosystem focused on the middle and lower middle market. So, what are we doing to facilitate that? Well, Stellus' senior originators recently spent time in person with senior professionals at RCP as these teams begin collaborating and identifying ways to do exactly that. Regarding the longer-term origination opportunity with Stellus and RCP, if, over time, Stellus can capture 10% to 20% of the demand from the equity capital deployed annually within RCP's network of private equity GPs, it could produce an additional $500 million to $1 billion of incremental annual commitments across Stellus. I would also highlight that the Stellus leadership team recently presented to the entire Ridgepost Capital platform, including all of our investment strategies, to educate teams on their business and strategy and where there might be incremental opportunities to work together. In terms of the business, before considering any impact from the RCP origination opportunity, Stellus' origination pipeline is robust and has picked up meaningfully over the last 30 days. In fact, across all of our private credit businesses, origination pipelines are strong. A related point worth highlighting that also indicates we're beginning to see an increase in the velocity of capital returns in the middle and lower middle market. Distributions at RCP's funds and therefore exit activity have shown a meaningful pickup year-to-date. Specifically, through July 24th, distributions at RCP funds have more than doubled year-over-year and are up more than 25% relative to the comparable period in 2024. This clearly has positive implications for distributions to fund investors, but it also has positive implications for future fundraising and deployment activity at both RCP as well as our private credit businesses, most notably Stellus, which is consistent with the pipeline activity we previously highlighted. Before turning it over to Amanda, I want to highlight that RCP is celebrating its 25th anniversary this year. In our industry, track record and incumbency are critical. Over the past two and a half decades, RCP has built a highly differentiated franchise supported by longstanding relationships, 25 years of investment data and insights, and a proven ability to deliver attractive returns across market cycles. It's been a terrific 25 years for RCP, and we're excited about the opportunities ahead as we look toward the next 25 years. With that, I'll turn it over to Amanda.

Thanks, Luke. As highlighted earlier in the call, we delivered strong results again in the second quarter. We generated $0.24 per share of adjusted net income in the period, compared to $0.23 per share in the second quarter of 2025. Fee-related earnings totaled $39 million, up 10% year-over-year, while the FRE margin came in at 48%. Fee-related revenue totaled $81 million in the quarter, up 11% year-over-year. Management and advisory fees represented nearly all of fee-related revenue in Q2, totaling $80 million. We believe this revenue mix results in a highly durable and stable earnings profile for Ridgepost Capital. In terms of the fee rate, the average core fee rate, excluding direct and secondary catch-up fees, totaled 100 basis points in the second quarter, up 3 basis points from the first quarter. As a reminder, the core fee rate is typically seasonally lower in the first half of the year and seasonally higher in the back half of the year, particularly in the fourth quarter, primarily due to our tax credit business. In terms of the core fee rate for full year 2026, we continue to expect this will total 103 basis points. And we also expect direct and secondary catch-up fees will total between $6 million and $8 million in 2026, unchanged from our prior expectations. With respect to the outlook for the margin, we continue to expect the FRE margin for full year 2026 will be in the mid-40s. As a reminder on cash interest, we fully utilized our credit revolver to fund the Stellus acquisition at our borrowing rate of 260 plus SOFR. I would point out that in June, we expanded our revolving credit facility by $20 million to $195 million, enhancing our financial flexibility. And on cash taxes, we still expect to fully utilize our NOLs by the end of this year. As we've discussed in the past, we expect our cash tax rate to be in the high single-digit to low double-digit range for 2026 and in the mid-teens for 2027. In terms of changes to our share count, we issued 11.8 million shares of partnership units and shares in connection with the Stellus acquisition. As a result of this, at the end of the second quarter, including partnership units exchangeable for shares, we had approximately 130 million fully diluted shares outstanding. Regarding capital management, our capital allocation priorities remain balanced, including supporting our ongoing quarterly dividend of $0.04 per share, offsetting the dilution from annual employee stock issuance, managing our leverage, and returning excess capital through share repurchases when valuations are attractive. Given the recent acquisition of Stellus, some of the near-term focus will be around deleveraging, which, coupled with natural growth and cash earnings in the back half of the year, should bring our leverage ratio back in line with our longer-term target in the mid-2x EBITDA by the end of this year versus approximately 2.8x at the end of the second quarter pro forma for Stellus. And I would point out that we have already paid down $20 million of debt thus far in the third quarter. As is always the case, we will balance other capital uses with share repurchases, as we view this as an efficient and accretive way to return excess capital to shareholders, particularly if the stock continues to trade at what we view to be dislocated valuations. One final topic I want to discuss before turning it back to Luke for closing remarks. In close collaboration with our Chief Information Officer, Mike Goodwin, we're spending a meaningful amount of our time on AI and technology. We're exploring how Ridgepost Capital and all of our teams can leverage AI and technology in order to create operational efficiencies, as well as to drive more informed decision-making, which we think will ultimately drive even better outcomes for all of our stakeholders. We see 3 key opportunities emerging as it relates to technology, AI, and Ridgepost Capital, while we balance internal and external costs, including token usage across the company: operations and automation, enhanced investment capabilities, and collaboration. I won't go into all the specifics for each of these buckets on the call today, but I do want to share a couple of tangible examples of the early progress we're seeing. The first area is reviewing NDAs. We've reduced the time it takes to review an NDA from roughly 60 minutes to about 5 to 10. For some perspective, we review at least a few thousand NDAs a year, implying that we'll save roughly several thousand hours per year on just NDAs alone. That's quite meaningful in thinking about the time and resources needed to review these documents previously. Second, at our private equity fund of funds business, RCP, the firm is leveraging AI and technology to significantly streamline the production of tear sheets and GPScout profiles. This process was previously done by human beings and would take about 1 to 2 days to complete. By leveraging technology and AI, this process now only takes roughly 1 hour, and importantly, this human capital has been redeployed across other areas of the business. Third, collaboration across all of our strategies has never been higher, and we think our AI and technology initiatives have been a key driver of this. We recently started hosting firm-wide weekly AI drop-in open hours so our employees can ask questions, get help with AI prompts, and it's also a great way for all of our teams to collaborate and share ideas. These are only 3 examples of where we're experiencing real benefits and efficiencies across the business, but there's a long list of others currently underway. There's certainly been real-time cost savings associated with these early initiatives, and the incremental margin potential longer term is meaningful. So, we plan to invest some of this near-term savings back into other initiatives to make sure we're staying ahead of the curve longer term. Many of our strategies have decades' worth of data, which is valuable in and of itself, but we also have the view that the real value and longer-term benefits will come from prudently leveraging these datasets across the entire organization. Bottom line, we think we're only in the top of the second inning for AI and related adoption, and we look forward to sharing more with you on our progress in the coming quarters. With that, I'll turn it back to Luke for a few closing comments before we open it up for Q&A.

Thanks, Amanda. Before we open it up to questions, I want to share a few closing remarks. Our business is performing exceptionally well, and we have strong momentum heading into the back half of the year. We are pleased to have Stellus formally on board at Ridgepost Capital, and the integration process is well underway, with clear opportunities to collaborate to drive even better outcomes for our stakeholders. As we've talked about in the past, our top priority remains delivering differentiated returns for our LPs, as this is, by far, the most important driver of the flywheel longer term. Building on that, we remain laser-focused on controlling what we can control across the business, including delivering profitable and accretive long-term growth. In terms of the stock, we believe the valuation today is incredibly dislocated relative to our view of fair value, specifically compared to the underlying fundamentals. Our business has historically compounded in the mid-teens annually, and we view Ridgepost Capital as a pure-play, capital-light, third-party alternative asset manager. Importantly, as previously mentioned, the vast majority of our revenue is driven by long-dated, contractually committed management fees, creating an incredibly stable and durable earning stream. So we see strong downside protection with the potential for significant upside over time. Thank you for your time today. I'll now pass the call over to the operator to begin the Q&A session.

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Michael Cyprys of Morgan Stanley.

It's Joe Tumillo on for Mike Cyprys. I think you guys mentioned $500 million to $1 billion of incremental commitments across Stellus by capturing roughly 10% to 20% of the equity capital from the GPs you already serving in the marketplace. I'm just wondering if you could talk about the steps you'll need to take to kind of really drive that strategy. What sort of timeframe do you think is really realistic to kind of achieve that? And I guess what's the baseline of where that is today, as I imagine Stellus already serves some of those GPs?

Joe, it's Luke. Thanks for the question, and good morning. I'd say a couple things. So first thing I think it is important to note is that we closed the transaction about 6 weeks ago now, and so, while we think there's a big opportunity in front of us and we have spent a lot of time prior to closing the deal getting organized around that, we are very, very early days on this. The second thing I would note is we always highlighted that we thought one of the really compelling attributes of this transaction was the opportunity to really broaden that origination funnel at Stellus. And we thought we were in a unique and differentiated position to do that, given our network of relationships and, in particular, the strength of that GP ecosystem in the middle and lower middle market at RCP. RCP, as I talked about, celebrating 25 years, they have an incredible track record, incredible lineage, and just a deep set of both historical, ongoing, and frankly, prospective relationships that we think we can open up. The way we kind of came to that is we looked at, that number we used is we looked at some of the historical and recent historical deployment trends over time. And those sponsors within that RCP ecosystem deploy on average in a given year about $5 billion. So if you take 10% to 20% of that, that's how we're getting to the $500 million to $1 billion of incremental origination capacity at Stellus. The other thing I would note is we think there's a lot of benefit to expanding the top of the funnel. And one of those key benefits is the opportunity to have, as I would call it, more shots on goal. The more shots on goal you have, the more opportunities you have, the more selective you can be in capital deployment. And trust me, the Stellus team is already world-class at this and plenty selective, but the more opportunities you have, the better I think that investment profile is going to look over time. And so we are really, really focused on this. As I mentioned, we've already had the teams together. They're having weekly, if not daily calls. We're going to create a lot of opportunities for dialogue, for integration. We've really tried to build the bonds human-to-human, person-to-person. We're spending a lot of time acting collectively and thinking about how we can do this. And look, realistically, though, to really get to those full numbers, it's probably going to take a period of years. But that doesn't mean we won't see incremental progress in that interval before that. I think we've already started. There's already been some dialogue around some obvious near-term transaction opportunities that we think we can collectively get after. And as kind of a takeaway, I would say we're super excited around what that can look like in the near, intermediate, and long term.

Great. I guess real quick as a follow-up, I completely hear you. The focus is on deleveraging and opportunistic share repurchases, but we kind of think about capital allocation a few years out here. I'm just kind of thinking in terms of the M&A environment, where are some things that could be potentially interesting or maybe worded differently is where do you see potential opportunities that are added to the RPC platform in terms of different kind of products or strategies?

It's a great question. I'm going to let Arjay, who's here, take that question. So Arjay, over to you.

Yes, great. Thank you, Luke. Thank you for the question. Look, I think it's similar to what you've heard from us in the past. We continue to focus on geographic expansion where we have strategies. So thinking about Europe further, if you think about private credit in Europe, we think that could be kind of the analog of Stellus in the U.S. If you think about more regular-way kind of U.S.-oriented strategies in private credit, I'd say we're very focused on asset-backed platforms. And then we talk a lot about real assets as well, both infrastructure and real estate. So I think we're spending time in all areas. I would say while activity was a little bit slower in terms of new process launches the first half of the year, that feels like it's really increased. And I think you're going to see more activity, more announcements as we get into the second half of the year.

Our next question comes from the line of Benjamin Budish of Barclays. Please go ahead, Benjamin.

Maybe first another follow-up on Stellus. Curious, Luke, you kind of reiterated your $10 billion fundraising and deployment expectation for '26, '27. What does Stellus do to that number? What's kind of been the historical fundraising cadence, and how do we think about the ongoing contribution? And then just in the P&L, I think you had maybe a week or two of Stellus in the quarter, and so you reiterated your full year FRE margin guidance but any other like little modeling tidbits maybe for Amanda you can help with just for the back half? What does the comp ratio look like? How else we be calibrating expectations with that now fully into the business?

Great question. I'll start with the fundraising question and that dynamic, and then I'll turn it to Amanda to kind of give a few tidbits, as you said, on the margin guidance. And you're right, by the way, we closed it on June 22nd. So we had basically 1 week of Stellus in the quarter here, all things considered. So on the fundraising, look, we have real long-term optimism in terms of the Stellus platform, in terms of what we can do collectively, and what Stellus can continue to do individually. Though the one thing that I would generally remind folks is obviously we continue to raise a lot of our capital, not all of our capital, but a lot of our capital in committed closed-end vehicles. And so when those vehicles are in the market, there's obviously the opportunity to then have a step function increase in that capital. But those vehicles are not always in the market. I would just recall that Stellus itself has recently just completed and they announced publicly a fundraising cycle where they announced the closure of their Stellus Capital Fund IV, plus a bunch of SMAs and related accounts, and the aggregate amount, as they said publicly, that they raised through that cycle was $1.5 billion in aggregate. And so they've now raised that capital, and I would say right now, the good news is they've got a lot of dry powder, and their focus is really on deployment and deployment against accretive, well-designed, well-structured, well-tenured investment opportunities. And so they're going to focus primarily on that. And so I think as that capital gets deployed, presumably we'll see some, what I would call, modest benefit from that. But I think, as long as they are in the current cycle, it's going to be relatively modest in the overall scheme of what we're doing, and we'll report out more on that as we go. And then, you know, if we can increase that origination funnel, as we've said we can, they'll have the opportunity and we'll have the opportunity collectively to be back in the market for another fundraising cycle, again, which they can then gainfully deploy. And that, obviously, when we get there, will create the opportunity to continue to grow Stellus' fee-paying AUM and AUM, but given that they just raised capital and closed on it in the last, kind of call it 3 to 6 months, the focus here is really going to be primarily on deployment in the near and immediate term. Amanda, I'll turn it to you on the margin.

Thank you, Ben, for the question. I'll make a couple of comments on margin. There were a few factors that increased our margin from last quarter, including an increase in our fee rate. We have steady cash comp costs with lower professional fees in the quarter. Professional fees have been historically higher during the first quarter. However, we are still expecting a mid-40s margin for the year, given anticipated placement agent costs and fundraising-related hires in the back half of the year. And generally speaking, Stellus as far as profile is similar to ours.

Our next question comes from the line of Chris Kotowski of Oppenheimer.

You mentioned that you currently had 20 funds in the market, and just kind of looking at the fund tables in the slide deck, it looked like it was pretty well spread out across a lot of '22, '24, '25 vintage funds. And I was wondering, are you planning flagship fund launches between now and year-end or is that mainly a 2027 event?

Well, it's a great question, Chris. So we're in the market, as we've said, at any point in time with probably between 15 and 20 funds. I think at the end of the quarter -- during the quarter, we were in with about 20 funds, a couple of those closed. I think we're now high teens. There probably will be some more launches as we go. But I would say at any point in time, there are likely to be multiple flagship funds in the market. And so just kind of in terms of where we are right now, in terms of which funds are in the market, Bonaccord is in the market with their flagship Fund III, BCP III, that launched at the beginning of the year and the fundraising period will go into 2027. Similarly, Hark is in the market with their flagship Fund IV. That launched again at the beginning of the year, and that will also go into 2027. At TrueBridge, as I mentioned, we're seeing a lot of uptake. They are and continue to be in the market with their flagship fund, as well as some other funds. But if you're focusing on flagship, they're in the market with their flagship fund, and they continue to be. I think as you are well aware, having long been a student of Ridgepost Capital, at RCP, they raise a flagship fund annually, and so they literally just closed at the end of the quarter their flagship Fund XX, and then they immediately launched their flagship Fund XXI, RCP XXI, and so they are back in the market with flagship Fund XXI. At Enhanced, they've converted largely into an evergreen format, and so that will now be a perpetually offered fund, and so they're going to continue to be in the market with that, and I would think about that from an Enhanced perspective as their flagship offering. So even as we speak, I think that was probably 4 or 5 things I just mentioned that we're in the market with. We do think we'll see more fund launches in the back half of the year and then even more as we get into '27. And so I would say the general expectation ought to be we're in that 15 to 20 range of things in the market. Maybe even it could tick above 20 at different times. But I would think of that as kind of a perpetual number at some level if things come off, other things will be raised and so on and so forth. Then obviously, with the Stellus acquisition, we're always going to be in the market in a sense with the various BDC vehicles in Stellus.

Yes, and just as a follow-up, you mentioned that the Stellus Fund IV closed with $1.5 billion in capital commitments and in sidecars, I guess. In the fund table, we see $448 million. So will that just increase as the fund deploys?

Yes. So remember, most of our strategies historically have charged on committed capital, but credit strategies as a general matter charge on deployed capital, right? For us, historically, that was really only Hark that charged on deployed capital. Virtually everything else charged on committed capital. Stellus will now go into that category of things that charge on deployed capital. And as we see those deployment trends go up, the amount of capital deployed will go up, to your point, Chris.

I would now like to turn the conference back to Luke Sarsfield for closing remarks.

Thank you all for your time today and your continued support. Ridgepost Capital remains extremely well positioned in the current environment given our committed fee-paying AUM base and our earnings stream that's almost entirely driven by management fees. Please reach out to our team with any additional follow-up questions, and we look very much forward to updating you on our third quarter results in early November. Thank you for joining us today, and have a great day.

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