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The RMR Group Inc. (RMR)

Q1 2023 Earnings Call· Fri, Feb 3, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good morning and welcome to the RMR First Quarter of Fiscal 2023 Financial Results Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Melissa McCarthy, Manager of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Melissa McCarthy

Analyst

Good morning and thank you for joining RMR's first quarter of fiscal 2023 conference call. With me on today's call are President and CEO, Adam Portnoy; and Chief Financial Officer, Matt Jordan. In just a moment, they will provide details about our business and quarterly results followed by a question-and-answer session. I'd like to note that the recording and retransmission of today's conference call is prohibited without the prior written consent of the company. Today's conference call contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and other securities laws. These forward-looking statements are based on RMR's beliefs and expectations as of today, February 3rd, 2023, and actual results may differ materially from those that we project. The company undertakes no obligation to revise or publicly release the results of any revision to the forward-looking statements made in today's conference call. Additional information concerning those factors that could cause those differences is contained in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which can be found on our website at www.rmrgroup.com. Investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance upon any forward-looking statements. In addition, we may discuss non-GAAP numbers during this call, including adjusted net income, adjusted earnings per share, adjusted EBITDA, and adjusted EBITDA margin. A reconciliation of net income determined in accordance with U.S. Generally Accepted Accounting Principles to adjusted net income, adjusted earnings per share, adjusted EBITDA, and the calculation of adjusted EBITDA margin can be found in our earnings release. And now, I would like to turn the call over to Adam.

Adam Portnoy

Analyst

Thanks Melissa and thank you for joining us this morning. Before we discuss the first quarter results, I would like to start by highlighting the enhanced earnings release format that we issued last night. This enhanced format is intended to align more closely with our alternative asset manager peers, and we expect it to be easier for investors and analysts to efficiently digest our results and make comparisons to our peer group. We have also evolved the way we define our clients, and as a result throughout our earnings release and 10-Q, you'll see them presented as either perpetual capital clients or private capital clients. As I sit here today and survey the overall economic environment, the ongoing market uncertainty driven in a large part by the Fed's rapid interest rate increases, has created significant headwinds for the commercial real estate industry. This market uncertainty has significantly slowed real estate transaction volumes with many, including our organization, taking a more wait and see approach. The impact on the publicly trade REIT industry has also been significant with the U.S. REIT index down over 24% 2022, and each respective publicly traded REIT sector generating negative returns since returns last year. In light of these challenges, RMR strong first quarter financial results are a testament to the diversity of our clients and the durability of our business model. We ended the calendar year 2022 with $37.4 billion in assets under management with $30 billion representing perpetual capital. Additionally, over the course of 2022, our fee earning AUM increased almost 10% to end the year at $26.9 billion. This quarter we reported adjusted net income of $0.51 per share, distributable earnings of $.58 per share, adjusted EBITDA of $26.4 million, and adjusted EBITDA margin of 50.8%. Finally, we again declared our dividend of…

Matthew Jordan

Analyst

Thanks Adam. Good morning, everyone. For the first quarter of fiscal 2023, we reported adjusted net income of $8.7 million or $0.51 per share, and adjusted EBITDA of $26.4 million, with both financial measures being in line with our quarterly guidance. Total management and advisory service revenues were $49.6 million this quarter, which was almost $4 million higher on a year-over-year basis, though down approximately $2 million sequentially. The sequential quarter decrease was primarily attributable to enterprise value declines at the manage equity REITs and normal seasonal declines at TA and Sonesta, partially offset by increases in construction supervision fees. Construction supervision fees almost doubled from the same period last year as RMR continues to look for ways to maximize value at our client's assets through redevelopment and repositioning efforts. For the second fiscal quarter of 2023, we expect to generate between $48 million and $49.5 million of management and advisory service revenues based upon the current enterprise values of our managed equity REITs. As it relates to incentive fees, which as a reminder, based on a comparison of our managed equity REITs three year total shareholder return to their respective peer groups, we unfortunately did not earn any incentive fees for calendar 2022. With that said, OPI three-year total return exceeded its peer group by over 800 basis points. So, cumulative returns for OPI in the office sector were negative, given the headwinds broadly facing the office sector, which resulted in no incentive fees being due from OPI. Additionally, both OPI and SVC's total shareholder return for calendar 2022 exceeded their respective peer groups by over 500 basis points, which hopefully creates a foundation for future incentive fees. Turning to expenses. Recurring cash compensation this quarter was approximately $33.3 million, an increase of $1.7 million on a sequential quarter…

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Bryan Maher of B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead.

Bryan Maher

Analyst

Good morning, Adam and Matt. I appreciate those comments. Can you give us an update on what you're seeing or hearing from the sovereign wealth funds that you've dealt with and kind of private capital? And as it relates to potentially reengaging this year on either a second partner for ILPT and/or some asset sales?

Adam Portnoy

Analyst

Sure. Good morning, Bryan. Thank you for that question. With regard specifically to the partners we're dealing with at the sovereign wealth funds, I would say they are very much open for business. I -- that happens to be a little bit unique, I think, to the relationships we have, specifically with those groups, which I can't name, but not all sovereign wealth funds are open for business, but the ones we are dealing with very much are open for business. I think, not surprisingly, they are focused on the favorite asset classes that most institutional investors are focused on, which would be industrial real estate, residential or multifamily real estate and then sort of more niche sectors like data centers and/or MOBs or life science buildings. With regards to specifically our platform and the ability to grow AUM with them this year, I think there will be opportunities to grow with them this year. And I think -- but if I had to put sort of a time line around it, I think there'll be more opportunities to do it in the second half of the year than there would be in the first half of the year. I just think given the nature of what's going on in the portfolio is that we manage, and what's going on more broadly in the market, it's probably more likely that you would see growth in those vehicles if it were to occur in 2023 in the second half of the calendar year rather than the first half. That's a little bit more driven by things going on at our firm and by their appetite because they are very much open to doing things. And so that's sort of where we're at. I think they -- in some ways, they see this as their real opportunity to aggregate assets because, to be perfectly frank, some of the non-traded REITs that have existed, who're also competing for the same assets and they have largely exited the market, and they are now largely the only buyers or the largest buyer of what I would call core plus real estate in the market today. So, I think from their perspective, if you were to ask them, they would say this is a real -- this is a real opportunity for them because they have less competition to deal with. And so, I think it will turn into opportunities for us in the future.

Bryan Maher

Analyst

So that segues well into my second question is, we've been getting questions from investors regarding the managed REITs, whether it's cash on hand. Obviously, I think that you have some set aside for certain things, whether it's CapEx, et cetera or refinancing, or availability to borrow to make acquisitions. What is kind of the appetite of the four managed REITs this year for acquisitions on their balance sheet? Or is it just a function of you're keeping that cash powder for refinances CapEx, et cetera? Maybe you can address that.

Adam Portnoy

Analyst

Sure. I think across the board, there's limited acquisitions that you will see across the board at four REITs for various reasons. I think there's different reasons why that is the case at each 1 of the REITs. But broadly speaking, limited acquisition appetite. If there are some acquisitions, they could be smaller acquisitions and/or related to properties in and around existing properties, let's say an add-on from an adjacent property that adds the value to an existing property or something like that. We are very focused this -- certainly the first half of this year. And you can see it in our numbers around construction management supervision fees. There's a lot of development activity we're looking at to deploy capital this year across the REITs, especially in our senior living portfolio and our hotel portfolio, well into the hundreds of millions of dollars that we plan to be putting to work. And so, there's a lot of effort underway in that respect, which does create fees for RMR itself because we're working on the construction management side of that. That all being said, depending on timing around debt repayments, specifically at some of the REITs for 2023 maturities and as they may have more cash on hand, there could be opportunities, especially at the end of the second half of the year, to actually open up to do some acquisition opportunities at the REITs in the second half of the year.

Bryan Maher

Analyst

Thanks. And just last for me. I mean, I would be remiss not to mention the AlerisLife acquisition announced this morning. Any extra color you can give us on that? What the plan might be there? Is RMR going to be involved at all? And is there any impact on DHC? And that's all for me. Thanks.

Adam Portnoy

Analyst

Sure. Thanks for that question, Bryan. We fully anticipated getting a question like that. It was really a coincidence. This was not planned to have that announcement out this morning on the same day we did our earnings release, so we anticipate the question. Unfortunately, I've been advised by counsel that this is not the proper form to go into what that announcement is. There will be, in relation to that transaction, a scheduled TO or tender offer document that will be filed with the SEC in the coming days, which will have a lot of information in it. And I encourage you to review that document when it's filed because I anticipate it will answer most, if not all, of your questions related to that transaction. The only other thing I think we can say about the transaction because it's really just directly from RMR's perspective, maybe Matt, address the fee impact.

Matthew Jordan

Analyst

Yeah. There will be no impact to RMR's revenues as it relates to AlerisLife. And that's pretty much all we can say.

Bryan Maher

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Adam Portnoy

Analyst

Yeah.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our next question will come from Ronald Kamdem of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Ronald Kamdem

Analyst

Hey, good morning. Just a couple of quick ones. Can you just update us -- in the past, it sort of looked at smaller potential acquisitions of the smaller asset managers maybe, can you just update us where we are in that process, and where your head is at today?

Adam Portnoy

Analyst

Sure. No, thanks for that question. We are -- we continue to evaluate opportunities as they present themselves. There are -- have been anecdotally a couple more opportunities that have presented themselves in the last couple of months that were opportunities that have sort of come around again where we were involved in discussions, and they've presented -- and they have reappeared. I think it's a pretty interesting environment we are entering into in 2023. There -- I anticipate that there will be some -- I don't know if it's going to be distressed sales, but there's going to be opportunities where people are going to be looking to perhaps exit or, more importantly, join a larger firm, because it's a difficult operating environment. And to give you an example, a firm that might have, let's say, a larger portion of their assets in and around office real estate, which is not a favorite asset class at the moment, might be more inclined to join a larger firm that's more diversified. And there could be opportunities, for example, around that sort of theoretical situation. So, I think there's nothing imminent that is to be announced certainly. But we have sort of ongoing regular dialogue with folks, and I anticipate that to continue. And I'm hopeful that as we get later into 2023, that some of that dialogue will turn into actionable items, and we could see some M&A activity, which would be one of the primary earmarked uses for our cash on our balance sheet. And so, we are hopeful that something like that will materialize in the coming year.

Ronald Kamdem

Analyst

Great. And then my last one would just be, if you could just comment on sort of the -- sort of on the office side. Sort of talked about the return to office, got a couple of data points about job losses and tenants potentially reducing space. Just curious where -- what you guys are hearing, what you guys are seeing on the office side? Thanks.

Adam Portnoy

Analyst

Yeah. We spend an enormous amount of time thinking in discussing and talking about what's going on in our office portfolio. It's a very large portion of the real estate we manage across, not just OPI, but other vehicles as well. At a high level, I'm going to -- it's almost like an analogy to -- we are -- the waters are calm today, meaning occupancy is pretty high, people are paying their rents. We've been leasing space at a pretty regular clip. Things are okay. But that all being said, we are looking to 2020 later this year, 2023, 2024, and all the signs are, from a macro perspective that things are going to slow. And it's almost like you're looking into the horizon, you see storm clouds. You just don't know if we're going into a Category 1 storm or a Category 5 storm. And the market, if you look at the office sector, office REITs, I think investors are assuming going into a Category 5 storm. They're just assuming the worst. I will tell you, from a planning perspective, we are obviously planning. As we think about our office portfolio, we do the best we can to plan for it. It's going to be a very rough environment and hope that it's not as rough as we're planning for. You sort of plan for the worst and hope for the best. We know it's going to be a difficult operating environment because you have the triple threat of a slowing economy, rising interest rates and work-from-home that's just sort of not abating in a major way. And so that's having an impact across the whole industry. Even if you have a portfolio of properties that have higher occupancy or utilization than the industry as a whole, which…

Ronald Kamdem

Analyst

Helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Adam Portnoy for any closing remarks. End of Q&A:

Adam Portnoy

Analyst

Thank you all for joining us today. Operator, that concludes our call.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation, and you may now disconnect.