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The RMR Group Inc. (RMR)

Q4 2016 Earnings Call· Thu, Dec 15, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Good morning and welcome to The RMR Group Fourth Quarter 2016 Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Tim Bonang, Senior Vice President. Please go ahead.

Tim Bonang

Analyst

Thank you, Chad and good morning everyone. Thank you for joining us today. With me on the call are President and CEO, Adam Portnoy and Chief Financial Officer, Matt Jordan. In just a moment, they will provide details about our business and our performance for the fourth quarter and year end fiscal 2016. They will then take questions. I would like to note that the recording and retransmission of today’s conference call is prohibited without the prior written consent of the company. Also note that today’s conference call contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and other securities laws. These forward-looking statements are based on our remarks, beliefs and expectations as of today, December 15, 2016 and actual results may differ materially from those that we project. The company undertakes no obligation to revise or publicly release the results of any revisions of the forward-looking statements made in today’s conference call. Additional information concerning factors that could cause any differences is contained in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission or SEC, which can be accessed from our website rmrgroup.com or the SEC’s website. Investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements. In addition, we will be discussing non-GAAP numbers during this call, including adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA margin. A reconciliation of net income determined in accordance with U.S. generally accepted accounting principles or GAAP to adjusted EBITDA and a calculation of adjusted EBITDA margin can be found in the news release we issued this morning. And now, I would like to turn the call over to Adam Portnoy to begin our quarterly review. Adam?

Adam Portnoy

Analyst

Thanks, Tim and thank you to everyone for joining us this morning. For the fourth quarter of fiscal 2016 which ended on September 30, we reported net income attributable to RMR a $7.4 million or $0.46 per share, which is a 15% year-over-year increase in earnings per share. At the end of the fourth quarter, our assets under management were approximately $26.9 billion compared to $25.5 billion for the same period last year. RMR’s results were highlighted by continued strong operating performance by our largest client companies, which contributed to a 17% growth in our revenues on a quarterly basis compared to last year. For the fourth quarter, approximately 84% of our management services revenue was earned from our four managed REITs. Hospitality Properties Trust reported a 4% year-over-year increase in normalized FFO per share and hotel RevPAR grew 3.8% during the quarter. Same property hotel RevPAR growth at HPT exceeded the hotel industry average for the 15th consecutive quarter. Also during the quarter, HPT raised $372 million of net proceeds from an equity offering which was principally used to repay debt. Senior Housing Properties Trust focused on internal growth and more efficient operations, which included some strategic dispositions. Subsequent to quarter end, SNH acquired 1 medical office building for $18.5 million bringing its year-to-date total acquisitions to approximately $207 million. Select income REIT was active with leasing during the quarter entering approximately 1 million square feet of leases that were 4.9% higher than previous rents for the same space. Since June 30, SIR has acquired two properties for $18 million, primarily with internally generated free cash flow. Government Properties Income Trust continued to focus on leasing its properties and managing its growth. During the quarter, GOV completed 136,000 square feet of leases for rents that were 2% higher than…

Matt Jordan

Analyst

Thanks, Adam. Good morning, everyone. This morning, we reported adjusted EBITDA of $27.4 million for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2016, which when measured against our current contractual management and advisory fees of $47 million results in an adjusted EBITDA margin of 58.3%. On a sequential quarter basis, adjusted EBITDA increased $1.2 million and adjusted EBITDA margin remained consistent at 58.3%. The increase in adjusted EBITDA is primarily the result of continued business management fee increases related to growth in the market capitalization of HPT, SIR and SNH over the course of the last quarter. These increases in revenues were partially offset by increased compensation costs. On a year-over-year basis, adjusted EBITDA increased $3.1 million and our adjusted EBITDA margin increased 140 basis points. These increases were primarily the result of growth in business and property management fees from the managed REITs and increased payroll reimbursements from our client companies. For the fourth quarter, we reported management services revenue of $43.7 million, which was an increase of $3.9 million or 10% on a year-over-year basis and $1.8 million or 4.4% on a sequential quarter basis. The year-over-year and sequential quarter growth in management services revenue is primarily due to base business management fee increases as a result of growth in the market capitalization of HPT, SNH and SIR as well as modest growth in property management revenues generated from the managed REITs. Of the revenues earned from the managed REITs, $28 million represents base business management fees. As a reminder, these fees are calculated monthly and are primarily based on the lower of the average historical cost of assets under management or the average total market capitalization. For each month and the quarter ended September 30, 2016, base business management fees were calculated using total market capitalization for HPT and…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Mitch Germain with JMP Securities. Please go ahead.

Peter Martin

Analyst

Hey guys. This is Peter on for Mitch, congrats on the quarter and one year here as a public company.

Adam Portnoy

Analyst

Thanks Peter.

Peter Martin

Analyst

I just want to get your thoughts on kind of capital deployment going forward, given the little capital need here, $66 million cash on hand and what might be a material incentive payment expected at year end? Thanks.

Adam Portnoy

Analyst

Sure. Well, I will touch on the incentive payments. Matt, I think did a pretty good job in his prepared remarks talking about how our best guess today is that we will likely receive fee payment from HPT. We are not sure how big it’s going to be. It will likely – it all depends where the stock market ends at the end of the year. But based on where things have shaken out since September 30, it’s likely to be less than what was calculated as of September 30. But we expect to get something, but it could be – I don’t think it’s going to be the $75 million that was recorded at September 30. It’s somewhere between zero to $75 million and unfortunately I just – I don’t know what it’s going to be. But that being said, in terms of cash deployment, you are right, we get this question often from investors about what we are going to do with our build up of cash on the balance sheet. Look, I – we have a current dividend at $0.25 a share per quarter, imagine that will stay in place for the foreseeable future, but at the same time whereas we think about growing our business and let’s say starting new client companies or funding or help launching new strategies, we have often talked about how we would like to use our excess cash to help bring in additional capital. So if we were able to let’s say get a third-party whether that be private or public capital to get behind a new strategy of some sort or to fund a new business for us in some sort, it’s likely that we will be required or asked to put in 10%, 20% of the capital to start…

Peter Martin

Analyst

Great. Thanks so much.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Bryan Maher with FBR & Company. Please go ahead.

Bryan Maher

Analyst · FBR & Company. Please go ahead.

Good morning Adam and Matt. Two questions, one little longer than the other. And by the way we are calculating $65 million for the incentive fee as of this morning, when you look at what’s going on with the interest rates here recently, how do you think about changes in the acquisition environment for the poor externally managed REITs and more specifically, are you seeing any early indications of cap rate movement in those sectors which you operate?

Adam Portnoy

Analyst · FBR & Company. Please go ahead.

Sure. Thanks for your question Bryan. Within the – within the sectors we operate within the four managed REITs, we have not been a particularly large acquirer of the property over last year. You look over the last 12 months, it’s probably less than $0.5 billion we required across the companies. Given historical rates at which we have required things over the – looking past 3 years, 4 years, 5 years, that’s actually very small amount of acquisitions. So we have already taken a position over the last year that the acquisition market was getting a little frothy and that we were not being particularly aggressive in chasing acquisitions. With the move in interest rates, I think we – I think it bodes well for us into ‘17, meaning there could be an opportunity for a movement in cap rates, but that’s something I would see in ‘17 which might provide us an ability to be a little bit more acquisitive next year. We have historically been very acquisitive at the RMR managed companies when others in the marketplace have pulled back. And we have not seen short-term here in the last couple of months a big pullback in the marketplace, because we are pretty – we are pretty active in looking and keeping abreast of what’s going on. There is still lot of bidders in the marketplace and we haven’t really seen a movement or a significant movement in cap rates at all. And I think that’s attributable to the fact that there is still a lot of money on the sidelines way to be put to work from a lot of different sources. But I do think eventually some of the rise in interest rates is going to have an effect on cap rates. And I think it is going to drive some of the levered buyers out of the market. And when that happens, we could be in a position to be a little bit more acquisitive in ‘17. I haven’t – this is also speculative. I haven’t seen it really play out in the last couple of months, but I think it might play out in ‘17.

Bryan Maher

Analyst · FBR & Company. Please go ahead.

Thanks for that. And then my second question is when we look at something like Tremont and we look at your national footprint, how long do you think it would take to grow that business not necessarily entirely across your national footprint, but substantially is that a 1 to 2 year process or a 3 to 5 year process, how are you thinking about growing that business?

Adam Portnoy

Analyst · FBR & Company. Please go ahead.

I think we would like to significantly grow it in ‘17. We are starting early days in some initiatives to try to raise some capital around that business and I hope we are successful sometime in 2017 to raise some significant capital around that business. I would like to think that we are well on our way in 2017 to making that a significant business within the RMR family of companies, but that’s the way I am thinking about it. We are putting a lot of effort behind it, but we are also very focused on growing our existing client companies and help financing our existing client companies and seeking out, I said in my prepared remarks pause some alternative sources of funds for our existing client companies to help them grow. So, we are doing a lot of things at once. I think we can do it. I think we can do a lot of things at once. But specifically around Tremont, we are putting a significant push into that business in 2017.

Bryan Maher

Analyst · FBR & Company. Please go ahead.

And just one other thing while I have you on the line, Adam, you have talked in the past about growing the platform and whether that’s managing some sovereign wealth money or doing something with private equity or maybe going into another real estate sector that you are not currently in. Has that thought process evolved at all over the last kind of 3 to 4 months?

Adam Portnoy

Analyst · FBR & Company. Please go ahead.

Yes. We narrowed it down a little bit and we are becoming a little bit more focused on certain strategies. I mean, I think it’s still early days and I don’t want to let the cat out of the bag in terms of exactly what we are pursuing, but it’s safe to say that yes, we have a handful of initiatives that we are very focused on as we go into 2017 that we are going to spend a lot of energy around, one of them being trying to grow the Tremont business. I have alluded to it a couple of times alternative sources of funds for our existing client companies being at other. And it is a handful of initiatives around that. We have narrowed our thinking a little bit. We are trying to strike where we think we have the highest likelihood of success and that is how we have sort of narrowed our thinking. I think it’s safe to say over the last 2016, we sort of cast a pretty wide net. I had a lot of conversations with a lot of different folks and I tried to figure out what was most likely going to be – what was going to be the most successful strategy for us as a business. And I think we are starting to narrow that down. And look, I think we will have some – I hope we will have some announcements in 2017 that will bear fruit on some of this.

Bryan Maher

Analyst · FBR & Company. Please go ahead.

Thank you and congratulations on a successful year.

Adam Portnoy

Analyst · FBR & Company. Please go ahead.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Adam Portnoy for any closing remarks.

Adam Portnoy

Analyst

Thank you for joining us this morning. We look forward to updating you on our progress during our first quarter conference call. Operator, that concludes our call.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, sir. The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today’s presentation. You may now disconnect.