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Rambus Inc. (RMBS)

Q2 2020 Earnings Call· Mon, Aug 3, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Rambus Second Quarter and Fiscal Year 2020 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. At the conclusion of our prepared remarks, we will conduct question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Rahul Mathur, Chief Financial Officer. You may begin your conference.

Rahul Mathur

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and welcome to the Rambus second quarter 2020 results conference call. I'm Rahul Mathur, CFO; and on the call with me today is Luc Seraphin, our CEO. The press release for the results that we will be discussing today have been furnished to the SEC on Form 8-K. A replay of this call will be available for the next week at 855-859-2056. You can hear the replay by dialing the toll-free number and then entering ID number 1788075 when you hear the prompt. In addition, we are simultaneously webcasting this call. And along with the audio, we're webcasting slides that we will reference during portion of today's call. So even if you're joining us via conference call, you may want to access the webcast with the slide presentation. A replay of this call can be accessed on our website beginning today at 5:00 P.M. Pacific Time. Our discussion today will contain forward-looking statements including our financial guidance for future periods; product and investment strategies; timing of expected product launches; demand for existing and newly acquired technologies; the growth opportunities of the various markets we serve; the expected benefits of our merger, acquisition and divestiture activity including the success of our integration efforts; risks and the potential adverse impacts related to or arising from the novel Coronavirus or COVID-19 and the effects of ASC 606 on reported revenue, amongst other things. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that are discussed during this call, and may be more fully described in the documents we file with the SEC, including our 8-Ks, 10-Qs and 10-Ks. These forward-looking statements may differ materially from our actual results and we're under no obligation to update these statements. In an effort to provide greater clarity in our financials, we're using both GAAP and non-GAAP financial presentations in both, our press release and also on this call. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP financials to the most directly comparable GAAP measures has been included in our press release in our slide presentation and on our website at rambus.com on the Investor Relations page under Financial Releases. The order of our call today will be as follows: Luc will start with an overview of the business; I will discuss our financial results, including our guidance for future periods, and then we will end with Q&A. I'll now turn the call over to Luc to provide an overview of the quarter. Luc?

Luc Seraphin

Analyst

Thanks, Rahul, and good afternoon, everyone. This was another excellent quarter for Rambus delivering in line or above expectations for the eighth consecutive quarter. We delivered $69.9 million in revenue, and most notably, $62 million in cash from operations, breaking a 10-year record for quarterly cash generation. This tremendous performance was enabled by our sustained focus on quality and execution, demonstrating our ability to consistently deliver. The team is fully adjusted to remote operations and continues to maintain high levels of productivity, as well as our commitments to our customers. One thing that has remained constant during these uncertain times is the increased demand for data bandwidth and performance driven by the significant increase in online activity from corporations and consumers. We expect the outlook for data center to remain healthy as trends like working-from-home and online learning are likely to continue longer term. As a result, we are seeing sustained investment from our customers in products and solutions that will help improve the performance of the global data infrastructure. Memory and interface chips led our strong performance with the fifth consecutive quarter of record revenue. This sustained growth trajectory is driven by a combination of ongoing data center and OEM qualifications and strong overall demand in the market. The confluence of existing technology trends like AI at the Edge and the transition to the cloud, with a paradigm shift to remote collaboration, is accelerating infrastructure deployment and upgrades. This translates into greater demand and increased shipments for cloud DRM and server modules. From an operational standpoint, our supply chain remains strong with solid wafer supply and good cycle times on test. The operations team has done an excellent job of actively managing any potential risks; and as a result, we continue to meet all of our customer commitments. Based…

Rahul Mathur

Analyst

Thanks, Luc. I'd like to begin with our financial results for the second quarter. Let me start with some highlights on Slide 5. As Luc mentioned, we continue to execute in our product businesses and delivered excellent financial results at the high-end of our revenue and earnings expectations while continuing to strengthen our balance sheet. We've adopted ASC 606 using the modified retrospective method, which does not restate prior periods, but rather runs the cumulative effect of the adoption through retained earnings as the beginning balance sheet adjustment. Any comparison between our results under ASC 606 and prior results under ASC 605 is not an accurate way to track our company's progress. We will continue to provide operational metrics such as licensing billings to give our investors better insight into our operational performance. We delivered revenue of $59.9 million and licensing billings of $60.7 million at the high-end of our expectations. We have a very strong balance sheet and ended the quarter with cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities of $486.1 million, up from the previous quarter due to cash from operations of $62 million, our best quarterly performance in over 10 years. Our continued execution on our strategy and our operational discipline have yielded excellent financial results and a strong balance sheet that affords us flexibility on our strategic initiatives. Now, let me talk you through some revenue details on Slide 6. Revenue for the second quarter was $59.9 million at the high-end of our expected range due to another record quarter for our buffer chip business. Royalty revenue for the second quarter was $17 million, while licensing billings was $60.7 million. The difference between licensing billings and royalty revenue primarily relates to timing as we don't always recognize revenue in the same quarter, we bill our customers. Going…

Operator

Operator

Thank you, Rahul. [Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Gary Mobley with Wells Fargo Securities. You may now ask your question.

Gary Mobley

Analyst

Yeah, thanks. Hey, guys. Let me start out by asking about some reconciliation items from GAAP to non-GAAP results, and focusing specifically on substituting billings -- substituting royalties for billings. If I make that adjustment that gets to a -- just the revenue number, put just reported quarter of roughly $103.6 million. Am I doing the math right there?

Rahul Mathur

Analyst

So, Gary, it's Rahul. Great to hear your voice and I hope that you and your family are well. I think what you're doing is you're substituting licensing billings for what we typically report for royalty revenue. And, obviously, that's not a GAAP measure. But if I were to do the math, I'd get the same number.

Gary Mobley

Analyst

Okay. And translating down the different GAAP -- the non-GAAP reconciliation items from the expenses, you get to roughly what? $0.29 for the quarter?

Rahul Mathur

Analyst

Yeah, Gary. If I were to do that math, if you did, I would get the same number. But again, those aren't numbers that we present.

Gary Mobley

Analyst

Understood. All right. I want to ask about sustainability of your buffer chip business. It's been great now for several quarters. There's been a lot of chatter and concerns as you addressed on the -- on your prepared remarks about inventories of DIMs in the channel related to that -- some buffer chip inventory. And so, to the best of your knowledge, how much of your strength in that portion of your revenue has been driven by sustained demand for server capacity in Data Center Operations versus inventory increases versus market share shifts, vis-à-vis your handful of competitors? And any sort of step up in the market for what you're addressing, just given the various changes in Intel process -- processor cycles?

Luc Seraphin

Analyst

Hey, Gary. Nice to talk to you. We heard a little bit of all happening, so we continue to gain market share in the DDL for generation of products as Cascade Lake ramps into the market. And we expect our design wind progress to continue as new generations hit the market. By the end of this year, Ice Lake is going to be introduced and we have a very good footprint there, there's going to be an increase of number of channels with Ice Lake, which can probably also increase the total demand. So the traction in the market is there, and again, is driven by the demand for work from home, learn from home, online entertainment. Now, we don't see without direct customers, a building of inventories, we sell directly to our customers, and we're able to meet their commitments. We hear some slight inventory buildup at the system level. I think people took some caution about, you know, any possible disruption in the supply chain. So we've seen a little bit of buildup during the first half of this year, but we don't expect to have a huge correction in the second half. We're prudent for the second half, but I think the inventory buildup is very reasonable. And is there to just prevent any possible disruption with the supply chains, given that -- the COVID-19 environment.

Gary Mobley

Analyst

Okay.

Luc Seraphin

Analyst

Now, in the long run, we see more demand for buffer chip. You know, when we move to Ice Lake, we're going to have another chip with DB, when the market moves to DDR5, we expect the markets to be probably twice the size is what it is today, by 2024. DDR5 is going to see more content on the modules and we are going to invest in all of these chips that are going to be on DDR5 modules. So in the long run, we're going to see very high market growth for these products. So, we continue to be very optimistic in the long run with this business.

Gary Mobley

Analyst

Okay, it's helpful, Luc. And on the topic of the buffer chip business, I think maybe your originally guidance business, you know, a couple years ago to be at best 60% gross margin business. It was 63% in 2019. It's 68% in the most recent quarter, what's the limit on this? And what's sort of sustainable over the long term?

Rahul Mathur

Analyst

Hey, Gary, it's Rahul. So yes, we've been delighted with our gross margins. And any given quarter, it'll go a little bit higher, a little bit lower, just depending on mix and shipments and these other things as well. And, obviously, as we continue to ramp volumes, as you've seen, record time and time again over the last five quarters, then we get to leverage some of our existing costs. You know, what I talked about is gross margins in the 55% to 60% range long term. We've been posting, as you know, to closer to about 65%. But I think somewhere in that 60-odd range, long term is sustainable for us.

Gary Mobley

Analyst

Thanks, guys. I'll turn it over.

Rahul Mathur

Analyst

Thanks, Gary.

Operator

Operator

As a reminder, to limit your question to one question and one follow-up. Your next question comes from the line of Sydney Ho with Deutsche Bank. You may now ask a question.

Jeff Rand

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. You may now ask a question.

Hi, this is Jeff Rand on for Sydney. Congratulations on the nice quarter. With the licensing step down in Q4, do you think this points towards a sequential revenue decline in 4Q, or do you think your product and contract growth can offset this?

Rahul Mathur

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. You may now ask a question.

Yeah, Jeff, nice to talk to you. And I hope that you're well. We gave guidance for Q3 because we guide one quarter at a time. So, you know, as we mentioned in the prepared remarks, as well, there's still a little bit of lack of visibility related to COVID-19. So, if everything else stayed flat, then you'd see exactly that. I think what I've talked about historically is that specific contract has a step-down. It's just structural. It was something that negotiated, I think, five, seven years ago, of about $5.5 million in Q4. That steps back up in Q1. So all of the things being held equal, you'd see a Q4 that was down $5.5 million on the top line, and we run that through, and that's -- we run a pro forma 24% tax rate. So that's about $0.04. So right now, it's kind of hard to gauge what's going to happen in the fourth quarter. We're very pleased with the progress that we have across our businesses. Licensing has come in exactly as we thought. At the beginning of the year, you're seeing buffer chip perform very, very well. We expect to see our silicon IP business rebound in Q3. But right now, we're taking it one quarter at a time.

Jeff Rand

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. You may now ask a question.

Great, thank you. That's helpful. And you've had some design wins recently. How should we think about the incremental revenue opportunities from these wins and how quickly should they ramp up?

Luc Seraphin

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. You may now ask a question.

The design wins -- Hey, Jeff, this is Luc. The -- we continue to have design wins on the buffer chip as we talked about earlier with our customers and with our customers' customers. And every time a new processor, a new DRAM or a new DIM architecture is introduced to the market, that gives us an opportunity to win designs. And that explains the growth we have on the buffer chip. We continue on the IP cores and security to have a healthy design win history and pipeline. Most of our design win, half of them are in the data center fields. The other half is split between IoT 5G and AI type of applications. The business model for IP cores is a bit different. People pay us for license and sometimes royalties or reuse fees. So the revenue comes quite quickly after we win the designs, typically within the year, a year and a half that follows that design. And our design win pipeline is healthy. We had some, you know, slowdown in Asia earlier in the year whenever things shut down, but productivity is -- continues to be healthy.

Jeff Rand

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. You may now ask a question.

Great, thank you so much.

Rahul Mathur

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. You may now ask a question.

Thank you, Jeff.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from the line of Suji Desilva with ROTH Capital. You may now ask your question.

Suji Desilva

Analyst · ROTH Capital. You may now ask your question.

Hi, Luc. Hi, Rahul. Congratulations on the strong cash flow here. Very impressive. So just following up on Gary's question --

Rahul Mathur

Analyst · ROTH Capital. You may now ask your question.

Thank you

Suji Desilva

Analyst · ROTH Capital. You may now ask your question.

Yeah, sure, following up on Gary's question about the revenue EPS, just asking about now the third quarter, the guidance stuff. If I do my math here, I think it implies $103 million, just slightly down; sequentially revenues and EPS of $0.27, also down a little bit. Does that math sound right, Rahul?

Rahul Mathur

Analyst · ROTH Capital. You may now ask your question.

So I think, Suji, again, what you're doing is you're taking the guidance for licensing billings and substituting that for what we guide for royalty revenue. And then if I were to do the same math, I'd get the same view which is $103 million. And on a like comparison, that's roughly flat quarter over quarter. And I'm sorry, what did you say on the bottom line?

Suji Desilva

Analyst · ROTH Capital. You may now ask your question.

$0.27.

Rahul Mathur

Analyst · ROTH Capital. You may now ask your question.

Yeah, same thing. If I run that through in our pro forma expense and tax effect at the 24%, I get the same.

Suji Desilva

Analyst · ROTH Capital. You may now ask your question.

Great, okay. And then a question of the business on the memory interface side. You've kind of crossed currents in the marketplace, you have strong share gain and growth for your memory buffer, but maybe some people took some -- some customers took some excess in the beginning to kind of prepare for the second half. Could you talk about the memory interface business and whether you expect it to continue to grow steadily at this point or would potentially pause after five quarters of growth? Any color there would help.

Luc Seraphin

Analyst · ROTH Capital. You may now ask your question.

Yes, Suji, hi. So I think we saw some -- as we said in the first half of the year, we saw our customers taking some precaution because of COVID-19. But we believe that the inventory levels are still healthy. Going into the second half of the year, we are prudent with our outlook for buffer chip. We don't think there's going to be a correction, we think that the inventory level is still healthy. We'll continue to, you know, support that business with design wins. At the end of the year, we're going to start seeing Ice Lake popping up. And next year, Ice Lake is going to ramp, DDR5 is going to start to run. And as I said, when DDR5 ramp because we were one of -- we were the first to introduce DDR5 samples in the market; we believe our market share is going to continue to increase. And in addition to that, we're developing companion products that are going to go in the same DDR5 beams [ph]; so the potential market for us is going to further increase when that happens. But second half, as I said, inventory levels are healthy, but we're just prudent.

Suji Desilva

Analyst · ROTH Capital. You may now ask your question.

Okay. Understood. And then last question coming off of Intel's earnings, you talked about the manufacturing challenges and emphasized perhaps use of chiplets. And I think -- I'm curious, for your silicon IP business [indiscernible], if that's a potential tailwind. And if so, you could kind of maybe talk about how important that could be to that kind of breaking up with the chip and having to connect them, chips and connecting them.

Luc Seraphin

Analyst · ROTH Capital. You may now ask your question.

Yeah, that's a great question, Suji. When you move into very thin technologies like seven nanometer or thinner like five nanometer, the cost of masks and the complexity of designing especially analog passes is increasing. So one of the solutions to that problem is to actually separate the interface from the main chip itself and produce chiplets, high-performance chiplets. And we have those developments in house. We are full speed developing 112 gig, very short-range IP interface that can be used in chiplets. So that's an area that we watch very, very closely. I think there is a great market potential for that. And that plays into one of our strengths, which is very short reach 120 gig service and technology.

Suji Desilva

Analyst · ROTH Capital. You may now ask your question.

Okay, thanks, Luc. Well, congratulations again.

Luc Seraphin

Analyst · ROTH Capital. You may now ask your question.

Thank you.

Rahul Mathur

Analyst · ROTH Capital. You may now ask your question.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] This time there are no further questions. This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Luc.

Luc Seraphin

Analyst

Thank you, everyone, who has joined us today for your continued interest and time. We hope each one of you stays safe and healthy. And look forward to speaking with you again soon. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This now concludes today's conference. You may now disconnect.