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Raymond James Financial, Inc. (RJF)

Q2 2021 Earnings Call· Thu, Jul 22, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Good morning and welcome to Raymond James Financial's Second Quarter Fiscal 2021 Earnings Call. This call is being recorded and will be available for replay on the company's Investor Relations website. Now, I would like to turn over to Kristie Waugh, Vice President of Investor Relations at Raymond James Financial.

Kristie Waugh

Management

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us. We appreciate your time and interest in Raymond James Financial. With us on the call today are Paul Reilly, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer and Paul Shoukry, Chief Financial Officer. The presentation being reviewed this morning is available on Raymond James Investor Relations website. Following the prepared remarks, the operator will open the line for questions. Please note, certain statements made during this call may constitute forward looking statements. These statements include but are not limited to, information concerning future strategic objectives, business prospects, financial results, anticipated results of litigation and regulatory development, impact of COVID-19 pandemic or general economic conditions. In addition, words such as believe, expects, could and would as well as any other statement that necessarily depends on future events and intended to identify forward-looking statements. Please note that there can be no assurance that actual results will not differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statements. We urge you to consider the risks described in most recent Form 10-K and subsequent Form 10-Q, which are available on our Investor Relations website. During today's call, we will also use certain non-GAAP financial measures to provide information pertinent to our management's view of ongoing business performance. A reconciliation at these non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures may be found in the schedule accompanying our press release and presentation. With that, I’ll turn it over to Chairman and CEO, Paul Reilly. Paul?

Paul Reilly

Management

Thank you, Kristie and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. It has been a year since the financial markets bottomed and the Federal Reserve cut short-term interest rates to near zero. That move reduced our pre-tax run rate by 40%. The stock market has seen an incredible run since 2020 with the S&P 500, up 54% year-over-year. While that tailwind has certainly helped fuel our strong results, the records we generated during the quarter and first half of the fiscal year have also been driven by our unwavering commitment to providing excellent service to advisers and their clients during this difficult and unprecedented time. It's a testament to our advisers who have shepherded their clients through the pandemic and the wherewithal of our associates who have worked so hard to service our advisers and their clients, our strong balance sheet and our ability to grow both in constructive and challenging markets. Certainly a year we will never forget on many levels. Starting on Slide 3. The fiscal second quarter was another record quarter. The firm reported record net revenues of $2.37 billion, which were up 15% over the prior year's fiscal second quarter and 7% over the preceding quarter. Record net income of $355 million or $2.51 per diluted share increased 110% over net income in the year ago quarter and 14% over the preceding quarter. Annualized return on equity for the quarter was 19% and return on tangible common equity was 21.2%, an extremely impressive result, especially in this near zero rate environment and given our strong capital position. Record quarterly revenues were primarily driven by higher asset management and related administrative fees, investment banking revenues and record brokerage revenues, which more than offset the negative impact of lower short-term interest rates on both the net…

Paul Shoukry

Management

Thank you, Paul. I'll begin with consolidated revenues on slide 9. Record quarterly net revenues of $2.37 billion grew 15% year-over-year, and 7% sequentially. As expected, Asset Management fees grew 10% sequentially a bit lower than the 12% growth of fee-based assets during the preceding quarter, primarily due to two fewer billable days during the quarter. Private Client Group assets and fee-based accounts were up 7% during the fiscal second quarter, providing a tailwind for this line item for the third quarter of fiscal 2021. Consolidated brokerage revenues of $591 million grew 15% over the prior year and represents a record driven by continued strength in institutional fixed income, as well as strong brokerage revenues in the Private Client Group, reflecting healthy client activity levels and higher asset values. Account and service fees of $159 million declined 8% year-over-year, almost entirely due to the decrease in RJBDP fees from third-party banks given lower short-term interest rates, which I will discuss along with net interest income in more detail on the next two slides. The 10% sequential increase was largely attributable to higher asset balances and revenues from our recent acquisition of NWPS most of which are reflected in the client account and other fees line in the PCG segment. Consolidated investment banking revenues of $242 million, grew 64% year-over-year driven by strong M&A advisory revenues and record equity underwriting revenues. For the first half of the year, investment banking revenues were 74% higher than the first half of fiscal 2020. Our investment banking pipelines remain strong, so we would be really pleased to finish the fiscal year averaging $200 million, or better of investment banking revenues per quarter, if market conditions remain conducive. Other revenues of $44 million are down 21% sequentially, primarily due to lower private equity valuation gains…

Paul Reilly

Management

Thank you. So, overall, a year into the global health pandemic with near zero short-term interest rates and during a quarter with lots of seasonal headwinds such as fewer billable days and the reset of payroll taxes, I could not be more pleased with our record top and bottom line results this quarter. As for our outlook we remained well-positioned entering the third fiscal quarter with records for all of our key business metrics, strong financial adviser recruiting activity, and robust pipelines for investment banking. In the Private Client Group segment, while the recruiting environment is competitive and we face some challenges in a largely virtual environment, our financial adviser recruiting pipeline is strong across all of our affiliation options and this segment is going to benefit by starting the fiscal third quarter with a 7% sequential increase in assets and fee-based accounts. The enhancements we made to the recruiting packages on the employee side of the business have been very well received by prospective advisors and that pipeline has recovered nicely. Our perspective advisors across all of our affiliation options have continued to be attracted by our leading technology solutions. We have been known for our industry-leading position in mobile advisor tools and continue to make our technology platform more robust. We have also created easy-to-use systems that put all the information advisors need right at their fingertips, so they can easily get the information they need to service their clients and have more time taking care of their clients and growing their business. As we continue to invest in our technology, we're extremely excited about the new enhancements, which will be coming out shortly. We have been measuring our client satisfaction for the past 10 years using Net Promoter Scores, and I'm proud to share that our client…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Bill Katz with Citigroup. Please go ahead.

Bill Katz

Analyst

Okay. Good morning, and thank you for taking my question. So, I guess, first one is, I presume more detail will follow-up on the Investor Day next month. But I was wondering if you could maybe provide a little more discussion or disclosure around the Tier 1 leverage ratio of 10% maybe the time line or the pathway? And I guess is this quarter with a very strong loan growth and sort of stepped up buyback the blueprint that we should expect going forward?

Paul Shoukry

Management

Hey, good morning Bill and great question. As you said, we will discuss that in a lot more detail at the upcoming Analyst/Investor Day. And really the decline to 12.2% this quarter was primarily attributable to the increase in client cash balances and we're accommodating more of that on our balance sheet at the broker dealer, frankly, because the third-party bank demand with all of the banks flushed with cash right now has declined. At the broker dealer, we -- to fulfill the associated reserve requirement, we're repurchasing short-term treasuries. And we hope that we can over time redeploy that into more profitable growth at the bank. But in terms of how we think about getting to 10% over time, it's really going to be a combination of growing the balance sheet, which primarily occurs for us at Raymond James Bank as you know. You alluded to the strong loan growth in the quarter of 4%. We are still being very deliberate in growing the portfolio both the Private Client Group loans. Securities-based loans grew almost 40% year-over-year. And mortgages have seen good growth as well, although, there's been a high degree of runoffs and refinancing there. And we're starting to really be deliberate in growing the corporate loan portfolio, although there still continues to be more demand and supply in the market with banks being flushed with cash. And then the second component of managing the capital ratio is really deploying the capital. You saw us do the buybacks this quarter to offset the dilution. We'll continue to do that and be opportunistic if the prices are at attractive levels. And then of course you just heard Paul mention the focus on acquisitions as well as another way to deploy capital.

Bill Katz

Analyst

Okay. And just a follow-up. Just coming back to your -- the commentary that the organic growth accelerated in the sort of last couple of quarters to 9% which is quite impressive. Wondering if you can maybe peel that back a little bit more and maybe talk to like the organic growth between the different channels? And if you can give maybe a little more color around the recruitment backdrop? Thank you.

Paul Reilly

Management

I'd say two levels. Yes sure. The -- if you look at I know a lot of people record quarterly and some annually. So as you know we do annual. So we thought we'd give the indication that we're approaching 9% for the first six months which is a great number. The growth has been kind of proportional to the channels. We're finding our advisers who are just bringing in assets and clients even in this market which they've consistently done and the top producers have really had very impressive results in their growth. So it's happening everywhere. And then on recruitment we measure -- we don't publish what we call commits and those are people saying I'm coming. What you see are the people that sign. So it's like almost M&A. You're in a transaction but we don't count it until it closes. It's the same in recruiting. But our commits are way up in every channel, all of our channels. And now some of those people may not join or they may delay the join which often will happen for just logistics reasons and it might slip into the next quarter. But based on the backlog it is very, very robust. So I think we posted good numbers this quarter. And my guess is in all channels you're going to see better numbers next quarter.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Manan Gosalia Morgan Stanley.

Manan Gosalia

Analyst

Hi, good morning. You had a pretty strong quarter for investment banking across the board. Can you give us some more color on the backlog? And I think you mentioned it remained strong but maybe you can compare it to the start of the fiscal second quarter? And then your pretax margins in the Capital Markets division declined Q-on-Q. It was a pretty strong revenue environment. So I was wondering if there's any seasonality there or should we expect margins in that segment to stay at these levels in this kind of an environment for trading?

Paul Reilly

Management

Yes. So let me start on the kind of the revenue side. I'll let Paul address the margin side a little bit. The -- because there's lots of moving parts and all of these. On the revenue side honestly and Paul talked about $200 million plus. We're at record levels right? So every time you have records you always wonder. But if you looked at the backlog you would see no reason why it would slow. Now again M&A is one of those deals where economy can change people can pull out of deals or they can get delayed. So you never know. But the backlog would say it's as robust as ever. The market is active, I think for everyone and our backlog is very strong and continually to sign new deals, even as we've been on this last week that were pretty significant. So we feel pretty good about the backlog. Paul you want to talk about the margin?

Paul Shoukry

Management

Yes. I mean the margin certainly bounced around a little bit from quarter-to-quarter. But at 24% for the quarter that's still a fantastic margin for the Capital Markets segment. And when you look year-to-date I think it's 26%. So revenues were down a bit sequentially. M&A still had very strong quarter. But it was down 18% from the record M&A results last quarter and that is a high-margin revenue source. So again it could bounce around. But at these levels we're still really pleased with the 26% margin year-to-date.

Manan Gosalia

Analyst

Great. And then maybe on the loan growth side, you saw some nice loan growth as you mentioned in the real estate and SBL portfolios this quarter. Are you doing anything differently there? Any change in underwriting given how much the macro environment has improved and with markets to all-time highs, or is this just increased penetration of your existing customer base?

Paul Reilly

Management

Yes. I would say it's not relaxed underwriting. So I think it is better processing trying to get make it a smoother process. The underwriting standards are the same as ever. But I do think our advisers in this market and lot of people in the state and tax planning are using the tool. So we are advertising to our advisers. We don't go direct to their clients the availability and the use of these tools and financial planning. But it's their choice and their clients' choice. We don't market directly to the end client. So -- but given that and I think the educational process and the dynamics of the market we've had significant growth and still see that channel is very active. So compared to our bigger peers we are much lower penetration. So we think there's more opportunity.

Manan Gosalia

Analyst

Great. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Devin Ryan with JMP Securities. Please go ahead.

Devin Ryan

Analyst

Great. Good morning everyone.

Paul Reilly

Management

Hey, Devin.

Paul Shoukry

Management

Hey, Devin.

Devin Ryan

Analyst

Maybe start with one here just on the strength in product line brokerage revenues in the quarter. Heard some of the commentary, but it would be great just to get a little more color on what you guys are seeing in that business. And if you can, how much of the sequential improvement was from trailing commissions versus just activity? And really what I'm trying to do is just parse through how much of that business is just benefiting from a bigger base and higher assets versus maybe something that was little bit unusually active in the backdrop?

Paul Shoukry

Management

Hey, Devin that's a great question. It was really strong brokerage revenues in the Private Client Group business. A lot of that reflects the healthy level of client engagement just given the market opportunities. When you look at that kind of $413 million of brokerage revenues, roughly 50% of it is asset based and the other 50% is transactional based. And then it varies by line for example the mutual fund line 65% to 70% of that is asset based. And so obviously that has grown nicely as assets have grown and the trail commissions have grown as well. But you can also see that the transactional commissions from equities, ETFs and fixed incomes they're up 13% sequentially as well. So good level of client activity. Obviously, the asset growth helps there as well. There were some lumpy placement fees in that brokerage revenues in Private Client Group this quarter. But that happens from time to time, but that certainly was another benefit during the quarter as well.

Devin Ryan

Analyst

Yeah. Okay sure. Yeah, it's really good color. Thanks, Paul. And then maybe another kind of modeling question. Just thinking about the comp ratio moving parts. I appreciate the mix dynamics, particularly as you have strong quarters in the independent brokerage channel and that's going to put some upward pressure all else equal. But then you also highlighted some of the seasonal items like payroll taxes. So if we look at that 200 basis point sequential increase I'm not sure if it's -- you're able to kind of parse through how much is the drag from the seasonal piece or even if you can kind of quantify how much the payroll taxes affected the comp? If I'm looking at like the other segment for example there was a $10 million increase. I'm sure you saw increases in any other pieces, but it's little bit tough to parse through. So that would be really helpful, if you can give any color there?

Paul Shoukry

Management

Yeah. No it is a great question Devin. And we try to parse through it ourselves. There's a lot of moving parts there because there's also elevated payroll taxes with our year-end bonuses for those who haven't hit the threshold. So in the past, we've said it's been $10 million or so sequentially in terms of the impact. But I would tell you the comp ratio as I said on last quarter's call really the biggest driver there was just the increase in compensable revenues in the Private Client Group business. That has an average payout between the employee and independent channel as you know of around 75%. And so we want those revenues to grow as much as possible obviously. And they're going to grow all else being equal in the third quarter because fee-based revenues grew -- assets grew 7% during the quarter. So that's going to be a tailwind to compensable revenues in the Private Client Group business. So it really is a mix issue more than anything else, as we have really been focused on managing the controllable expense as much as we possibly can.

Devin Ryan

Analyst

Okay. Great. I'll leave it there. Thank you guys.

Paul Shoukry

Management

Thanks, Devin.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Craig Siegenthaler of Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Gautam Sawant

Analyst

Good morning. This is Gautam Sawant filling in for Craig. Can you please expand on this competition you're seeing within the employee and independent channel? And how your transition assistance is positioned following the increase? And could you also speak to some of the additional differentiated technology in your platform relative to peers?

Paul Reilly

Management

Yeah. So on the transition assistance, it became clear as the number of firms not all had raised it significantly. We were not even close to in the market and for big -- especially for large teams. And so looking we knew we had room from a return standpoint, so on those large teams I would say now when we come into the finals we're not the highest, but we're in the ballpark. And so enough that people are saying they're willing to make the trade for the dollars for the culture and the values. When the -- when we had deals that literally were almost twice as much as ours it was hard for people to turn down the money even though they might have preferred coming here. So we aren't the highest, we are competitive and we think it's a fair package both and a good return for us. So we're feeling that we're well positioned and appropriately positioned. And I think it's going to reflect in the numbers and a lot of very, very high-quality teams probably the largest number of large teams that we've had that's certainly in memory so -- which means that probably the largest group of large teams we've ever had in the recruiting pipeline. I'm sorry and your second question was?

Gautam Sawant

Analyst

If you can just expand on some of the differentiated technology on your platform relative to some of your peers?

Paul Reilly

Management

Yeah. So our focus for a long time has been on the advisers desktop. We've had a lot of peers that focused on the end client desktop some because they were going direct to their end clients. We first wanted to put all the capabilities into our adviser's desktop. So it's been many years now, since we've been completely mobile where advisers could do almost everything from their iPhones that they could do from their desktop. And making sure that our advisers have all the latest tools planning tools and completely mobile very, very early on. Now, not only are we enhancing those platforms, but we're bringing that same robust technology to those client connections. We believe our client app is very good. Our SAT scores are very high on our internal survey, which we do every year. But now we're connecting all that power of those apps into their clients, so that their integration is much closer, as well as rolling out many things. We've been on this journey for 10 years and going from being having good technology to all of our recruits tell us from other firms as, from an adviser desktop leading technology. So -- but that battle never ends. People are always investing. So you'll see more of it on Investor Day. We believe, it's been one of the impetuses of our strong recruiting and one of the trade-offs people have made of -- for the packages. It's the culture and the tools and the support from our marketing department and all the other things we do to help advisers build their businesses.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is from Steven Chubak, Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

Steven Chubak

Analyst

Hi. Good morning.

Paul Reilly

Management

Hi, Steven.

Steven Chubak

Analyst

So I wanted to start off with a question, just on the securities growth or at least your appetite to maybe grow the securities portfolio a bit more. You cited the significant buildup in client cash that had clearly impacted the NIM. I was hoping you can just give some context as to what your appetite is to reaccelerate securities growth once again? And Paul, you cited reinvestment headwinds versus the back book yield. Where are you reinvesting today, just given some of the recent steepening of the curve?

Paul Shoukry

Management

Hey, Steve. Great question. We have significant appetite to grow the securities portfolio. Unfortunately, the supply and the kind of shorter duration paper, we have been buying -- trying to buy in that three-year type duration average life range. And the supply, given the flat yield curve and where mortgages are being originated today, in the longer end of the curve, there's just not a lot of paper out there that gives you that three-year average life. And to the extent that you can find it, it's probably paying in the, kind of, 80 basis point range. So we have been proactive in investing and growing that part of the portfolio. The challenge is, where most of the supply is, you're having to go out 4.5 kind of five years on average life. And you get paid more, obviously. You're going to get somewhere north of 1%. But you're certainly not getting paid enough to take any level of inflation risk over that five-year period, for example. And so, we're looking at it closely, almost daily. We're looking at what's happening with spreads on the securities portfolio. We have a lot of significant appetite to grow it over time. But I would tell you, now, with the Fed buying as much as they're buying, particularly on the short end, there's just not a lot -- I mean there's a whole lot more demand than supply. And so, we're going to continue to be patient just as we always are.

Paul Reilly

Management

But then we've also, I think, strategically have -- on our C&I portfolio, grown it, and also looked as alternatives of very high-rated company paper with shorter duration or buying loans in the secondary market, where that duration is going to go out just a few years and it's floating and we think better credit risk returns. So we've been trying to be flexible in growing it. But we've waited a long time on a floating rate environment. We don't want to lock in at the bottom. So we're watching duration very, very closely.

Steven Chubak

Analyst

Thanks for all that color. And just for my follow-up on a question, just on the non-comps. Non-comps, ex-provision, of $309 million was certainly better than what we were contemplating and it's been running at a pretty tight band of about $305 million to $310 million. I know that's certainly been helped by depressed business development expense. But how should we be thinking about the right run rate from here, assuming that that's going to remain relatively depressed? And I guess, as we start to prepare for some normalization in Biz Dev, how should we be thinking about the run rate in a more normal backdrop as well?

Paul Shoukry

Management

Yes, great question. And business development expense, as I said on the opening remarks, we do expect that to start increasing as travel is starting to pick up a bit, maybe not so much in the third quarter, but in the fourth quarter, assuming the vaccines continue to prove effective. We expect the travel and even conferences and recognition trips to pick back up. Before the COVID pandemic, we said that we were looking to average somewhere around $325 million a quarter. And if you add -- if you kind of "normalize" for business development and I'm not sure what normal is, frankly, when we do get back to normal, it would get you right around that range. So we have been really focused on managing all the controllable aspects of non-compensation expenses, as you can see, but also a lot of it is growth driven. I mean, so sub-advisory fees is going to grow with fee-based assets over time. They have FDIC insurance premiums that grow with the bank's balance sheet growth. Recruiting, as Paul said, it's picking up substantially. There's going to be account transfer fees there. So a lot of the non-comp expense growth as we are a growth company are intended to grow over time, but we are focused on growing revenues at a faster rate than expenses over time as well. So we do realize that operating leverage.

Operator

Operator

And our last question comes from the line of Jim Mitchell with Seaport Global. Please go ahead.

Jim Mitchell

Analyst

Hey, good morning. Maybe just a question on cash balances. They keep growing. We saw how active your clients were on the brokerage side. But yet cash balances keep growing. Are we starting to see some leveling off or maybe even putting that to work recently, or is it still expect cash balances to keep growing?

Paul Shoukry

Management

Great question Jim. It seems like we've seen a leveling off to some extent. Some of the growth frankly in the last few months have been just coming from what used to be in purchase money market funds or other short-term alternatives that are now -- because those alternatives aren't generating any yield they're sitting in the cash sweep program. But we have seen a little bit of a level off. But those balances as we saw last year in March can change dramatically with market volatility or downward trend in the market. So at 6.5% of assets I would tell you clients are -- I think right now we're looking at around 60% exposure to equities, which when you look historically clients are pretty engaged in the equity markets, which is what you would want given the run that we had. And a lot of the value that financial advisers provide is keeping clients consistent with their financial plans in periods like we had last year. So for us, we don't tend to see the exposure to the different asset segments that the e-brokers might see et cetera or the day traders might see. We tend to stay a lot more -- our clients tend to stay a lot more consistent as their advisers really keep them on their financial plans.

Jim Mitchell

Analyst

Right. Okay. That's helpful. And maybe on Carillon Towers. I think you guys noted significant inflows. We haven't seen that in a while. Just any more specifics on what the drivers were? Do you think that can continue? Just any color there?

Paul Shoukry

Management

Yeah. It was around $1 billion for the quarter so -- of net inflows. So that was a pretty I think 8% annualized rate. But unfortunately we're not prepared to annualize that. There's structural headwinds. We had some nice institutional wins during the quarter. And so we have invested in the distribution capability. We recently announced a new leader for that business. So it'll be good to bring in a fresh set of eyes with a very experienced leader. But still dealing with the headwind. So we're not prepared to declare victory after one quarter of net inflows, but it was certainly nice to see after several quarters of headwinds.

Jim Mitchell

Analyst

Right. Okay. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Gentlemen those are all the questions. I will turn it back over to you for closing remarks.

Paul Reilly

Management

Well, thank you all. We appreciate your time this morning. I know it's a busy earnings day. But think we're well-positioned. We've had good growth and all of our key indicators really for forward growth were really record so -- and our backlog is strong in the other businesses. So hopefully the markets hold up and stay constructive and we have economic growth. So thank you all for your time and we will see you again next time, next quarter.

Operator

Operator

And ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our call for today. We thank you all for your participation. Have a great rest of your day and you may disconnect your line.