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Q1 2008 Earnings Call· Thu, May 1, 2008

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Gaylord Entertainment Company’s First Quarter 2008 Earnings Conference Call. Hosting the call today from Gaylord Entertainment are Mr. Colin Reed, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Mr. David Kloeppel, Chief Financial Officer. They are also joined by Mr. Mark Fioravanti, Sr. Vice President and Treasurer and Mr. Carter Todd, Sr. Vice President and General Counsel. This call will be available for digital replay. The number is 800-642-1687 and pin number is 43967668. At this time all participants have been placed on listen-only mode and the floor will be open for your questions following the presentation. It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Mr. Carter Todd. Sir you may begin.

Carter Todd - Senior Vice President and General Counsel

Management

Good morning. My name is Carter Todd and I am the General Counsel and Senior Vice President for Gaylord Entertainment Company. Thank you for joining us today on our first quarter 2008 earnings call. You should be aware that this conference call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 including statements among others regarding Gaylord Entertainment’s expected future financial performance. For this purpose any statements made during this call that are not statements of historical fact maybe deemed to be forward-looking statements. Without limiting the foregoing words such as "believes" "anticipates" "plans" "expects" and similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements. You are hereby cautioned that these statements maybe affected by the important factors among others set forth in Gaylord Entertainment’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission and in our first quarter 2008 earnings release. And consequently actual operations and results may differ materially from the results discussed or projected in the forward-looking statements. Gaylord Entertainment undertakes no obligation to update publicly any forward-looking statements whether as the result of new information, future events or otherwise. I’d also like to remind you that in our call today, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures and a reconciliation of those non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures has been provided as an exhibit to our earnings release and is also available on our website under the Investor Relations section. At this time, I’d like to turn the call over to our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Colin Reed.

Colin Reed - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Management

Carter, thank you. Good morning. I am happy to welcome everyone to our first quarter's 2008 conference call. As always, I will begin by offering some commentary on our business and the Hospitality Industry and then David Kloeppel, our Chief Financial Officer will provide more color on the specific performance about properties and our outlook moving forward. We will conclude the call by answering any questions that you may have. By now, I am sure you've all seen this morning's earnings release. Well you can see that our results are inline with our expectations and consistent with what we announced a few weeks ago. They only tell half the story, and don’t fully explain how busy we have been during the last few months. We remain happily consumed with many mission critical initiatives. The opening of the Gaylord National outside Washington DC, moving forward on several expansion programs at our existing properties, and our continued efforts to enhance the experience of that customers at each of that properties. And I'll get into these subjects more in a moment. While I would prefer not begin discussion of the first quarter on a low or summary note, I would be remiss, if I didn’t reference the current state of the economy on what we are seeing relative to a business and industry. As we all know consumer confidence across the US is being affected by the daily prognostications in the media that we are in a recession. You can't pick up a news paper without reading about the difficult economic headwinds the economy is facing. This is a direct off shoot from the housing mortgage knockdown that has generated so much pressure on the economy. Most observers believe that the current downturn and fears about spending will negatively impact the hospitality and…

David Kloeppel - Chief Financial Officer

Management

Thank you, Colin. It has been a very busy and exciting quarter for us here at Gaylord Entertainment. We opened the Gaylord National property, brought the La Cantera transaction to a satisfactory conclusion and continue to make good progress on several development projects. Additionally despite the general softer economic environment, we were able to deliver financial results that were inline with our expectations and budget. Solid average daily rate growth and advanced booking levels, locking in more than 70% of our revenues for '08 at the beginning of the year translate into the increases in RevPAR and total RevPAR for the quarter. Overall the first quarter highlights, why Gaylord is unique relative to others in the sector. So our many hospitality businesses have reported a signs of weakening domestic performance, our group meeting and convention business model has continued to perform well. We’ve said time after time that our business will perform -- what proved to be more resilient in economic downturn and this quarter's results have shown that to be true. This quarter we set records for advanced bookings at the Gaylord Opryland property and Gaylord National and our bookings pipeline gives us confident for the full year of 2008 sales will be solid. Also outside-the-room spending levels were robust both in terms of the contractual and discretionary spend of our guests. Banquet and outlet covers increased across the brand as did the average check suggesting the both meeting planners and their attendees are still taking advantage of our extensive outside-the-room offerings. In fact, if you look at spend per occupied room at our properties, it increased by 6.2% in Q1 of ’08 over Q1 of ’07. In addition the systems we have in place to track our group and associations travel behavior, are in place and are working.…

Colin Reed - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Operator

Thanks Dave. Maybe before we turn over to take questions-and-answers, let me just make an observation. Some of you when Dave was going through the script, he talked about 80% of the business on the books and you may have heard a whisper from our General Counsel who said wasn’t that 70. Let me just be very clear as to what Dave and I said because they were different. What I said is that coming into this year, we had 70 points of occupancy on the books, which is factual and in the case on what Dave said was that as of the end of the first quarter, we had 80% of our total goal for the rest of the year already on the books and it's at a different period of time and that can be explained by the very good first quarter bookings that we had this year. So we are very, very comfortable about the rest of this year. So, let's open up the call for questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. (Operator Instructions). Our first question is coming from Chris Wanka with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Chris Wanka

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead

Hey, good morning guys. Couple of questions, one, is could you -- on the National, can you just kind of confirm those issues you had in the first couple of days of not impacted the future booking space there? And then I will come back with another one.

Colin Reed

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead

Yeah Chris, Colin, good morning. Chris on Saturday night, when we did our grand opening on Friday and Saturday, we had about 250 of the nations top meeting planner into the hotel. And also I have during the course of the last two to three weeks spoken with most of the meeting planners that held large conventions in the early part of April. And I will tell you to a person every meeting planner that stayed with us during the first part of April said you know, we are sorry that the rooms compression caused us you know for us to have to walk some people in the first week. The other two issues that were widely described were you know issues that everybody realized were outside of their control. And these meeting planners were very, very, very happy with the overall quality of this hotel, the performance of our people. And most of them have signed to come back to us. And now on Saturday night, I spent a long period of time walking with these meeting planners that came in from all over the country, I can tell you the comments that I got and the e-mails, I have subsequently received are incredibly exciting. These people are saying we have never seen a convention hotel looking like this. There is certainly is nothing like this in Washington or in the Eastern Seaboard. And so all I can tell you is what I am being told by the customer is that these people are going to come and they are going to book and I think you are going to be seeing that through the course of this year with bookings that we expect to secure on this hotel.

Chris Wanka

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead

Okay, great. And then second one is, can you just talk a little about the forward pace for the future years that you mentioned the 263,000, I mean obviously, it is still very strong number for the first quarter, but I think some folks are looking at it relative to other quarters. I mean what are the some of the factors that influence that and just maybe kind of give us about 30,000 full overview of how those could play out and what if any issues kind of impacted it this quarter relative to the quarters?

Colin Reed

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead

The room stay, let me just stop this, no one try to over to you. The rooms that we actually signed in contract for -- we signed 262,000 for the same store and we signed about 140,000 for National in this first quarter and the same store was slightly down on the same store of '07, which was the very best first quarter we have ever had in our company’s history. And what we did in this quarter in '08 was the second best quarter we have ever had in our company’s history but in our brands history in the six years and seven years now that this brand is being in operation. But the other part of the equation that we won't spend a lot of time talking about, but we spend a lot of time focused on. The preliminary and tentative buckets of contracts that we are in various forms negotiating on at a point in time and David I think it's fair to say that as of end of the first quarter at preliminary intentitives for every single hotel in the system, you know were extraordinary in terms of total.

David Kloeppel

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead

Yeah that’s right. And Chris, I mean as we sit here today looking at 2009 pace, we are comfortable with 2009 pace, it's running kind of at or above the levels of pace for 2008. So that is a good healthy pace for future periods. As Collin said bookings for this quarter on a same store basis the 262,000 are the second best we have ever recorded, while it looks like a negative comparison, I guess your sense of how strong first quarter of last year was. Because again, this was the second best we have ever done. So we feel comfortable with how the bookings are looking for future periods. And so far only a little bit led the way into the second quarter, but second quarter bookings are good and solid as well.

Chris Wanka

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead

Okay very good. Thanks.

Collin Reed

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead

Thanks very much.

Operator

Operator

Thanks you. Your question is coming from David Katz with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

David Katz

Analyst · Oppenheimer. Please go ahead

Hi, good morning gentlemen. Just a question, I noticed that you repurchased some share in the quarter, and if you could walk us through some of the logic to do that rather than let's say pay down some debt. And I know there is probably some dollars and cents analysis and then perhaps market perception just given the way the Street is reacting to leverage in general these days?

Collin Reed

Analyst · Oppenheimer. Please go ahead

So it seems illogical to us to repay debt, they were paying about 4.34 on floating rate. This floating rate debt that we have now effectively fixed to repay debt of 4.3% when we combine equity bag, and these assets are currently you know, somewhere in the -- depending upon which analyst report you read. So charging us somewhere between 8, 9 times historically, it makes no sense to us. So we are going to continue to do this prudently, because we think it's in the long-term best interest of our shareholders.

David Katz

Analyst · Oppenheimer. Please go ahead

And that’s all fair. And it was not intended to be a leading question, when we are further in Street, it’s a great way to take myself out of the argument. However, one of the -- there certainly is I think it's fair to say an appetite for sort of more growth projects entering your pipeline. And that would certainly bag the discussion of how do we go ahead and fund some of this things or how do we pay for it, right. And so one argument might be reducing debt levels rather than buying back stock might make it easier to go ahead do those things. And the sort of enhancement of your equity either way might be similar? And I don’t know, if that was exactly a question, but more over buddle, but I thinks its an appropriate topic for all us to consider?

Collin Reed

Analyst · Oppenheimer. Please go ahead

David Kloeppel

Analyst · Oppenheimer. Please go ahead

And David directly to your question or to your re-val I suppose about people like to see more growth $20 million of repurchasing stock is not going to change whether or not we can build Chula Vista. So the way we are managing the capital structure, the company and managing the investing of the company's capital resources is, number one, we have a lot of confidence in what our cash flows will be in '08 and '09 and beyond because we have a different business model than others. That affords us a comfort level that maybe others don’t have, with a slightly higher levels than others are comfortable with. So consequently, we have a different way of thinking about our debt versus other people thinking about their debt. As we look at our capital resources, number one, do we have enough liquidity? Yes, we have enough liquidity to handle the two announced expansions. Those expansions will begin spend in '09 and beyond, not during 2008. Once we look at us having sufficient liquidity for those expansions, which are high return investment projects, the question is what other investment alternatives are there available to us currently that are attractive, and the most attractive one of those currently is our stock and we are $20 million buyback or frankly the current authorization of an $80 million buyback again doesn't change whether or not we are going to able to do something like Chula Vista.

David Katz

Analyst · Oppenheimer. Please go ahead

Great. Thanks very much.

David Kloeppel

Analyst · Oppenheimer. Please go ahead

Sure.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is coming from Bill Crow with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Bill Crow

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Good morning guys. I have a couple of questions, but since you just mentioned Chula Vista, I'll give you a chance to give us an update on where that might stand?

Colin Reed

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Bill, Colin. Good morning

Bill Crow

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Good morning

Colin Reed

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Thank you for being on the phone. We've made a lot of good progress with the port authority in the city in terms of our agreements and we are having, how should I say it, discussions with both non-union and union branches to try and resolve really I think the only remaining issue of substance subject to the permitting process in that market, which is how we deal with the organized labor in Southern California. And it's probably prudent for us not to go too deep into where we are in those negotiations because I just think it doesn’t serve the process very well to try and sort of publicly negotiate.

Bill Crow

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Alright

Colin Reed

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Those discussion, but we are having -- we are not in a intrenched, no one is talking to either side. No, we are not in that mode, we are communicating. And I am still optimistic at the end of the day.

David Kloeppel

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

And, Bill just to make clear, make sure everybody understands timetable on that. The next milestone really should be a filing by the port authority and the city of Chula Vista that begins the environmental approval process and we would expect that to be sometime in the summer time, maybe early third quarter. And from there, the coastal commission fix it up and starts to do its approval process. So just to make sure you understand timing that’s the next milestone and that begins the clock ticking on the entitlement process.

Bill Crow

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Alright, terrific. Going back to the pace in the 260,000 rooms you did in the first quarter and that relates the 1.3 to 1.4 million room guidance that you often changes, is that correct?

David Kloeppel

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

That's correct.

Bill Crow

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

So how should we think about the pick up in that given the economic environment? I mean, is there some seasonality to what we should expect, are you anticipating that things are going to pick up as the economy starts to stabilize later in the year. What is your thinking there?

Colin Reed

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Bill one thing you need to understand is the – it’s the way the meeting planner tends to book. What typically meeting planners do and associations do, particularly large associations and as you know quite a large chunk of our business gets done with large associations, they tend to typical work on a calendar year. So as you get towards the end of the year, the associations tend to be completing their project, completing their agreements as to where they are going to be going four years, five years from now. And so, consistently every year you will see with us that we book in the fourth quarter probably twice as much as we book in the first quarter. It's just the way our business works and every year we tend to book somewhere between 500 and 600,000 room nights in that fourth quarter. And so, we are able to look at the pace, January pace, the February pace, and March pace, how we are doing in April compared to how we have historically done in April, how many tentatives we are working with, how many prospects we have working, and there is nothing at this stage that would indicate that our pace of bookings are stressing in any way shape or form. We feel pretty confident that that 1.3 to 1.4 will be delivered this year.

Bill Crow

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Okay, fair enough. Then one final question from me just so I can get a better picture on what's going on on the real estate front. Could you talk about the joint venture pursuit for La Cantera? In the end, what was the deciding factor? Was it lack of access to debt by the venture or was it just some return hurdles that couldn't be met, what was it there that ended that transaction?

Colin Reed

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Dave, you want – you spent a couple of months on that.

David Kloeppel

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Yeah, Bill, let me take you through that. I would characterize it as following. We had a lot of discussions with a lot of interested parties. And in terms of equity capital, there was adequate available equity capital to execute on a transaction. There also was adequate debt capital to execute on the purchase transaction. Ultimately where we got uncomfortable in large part was that we weren't comfortable that the debt capital will be there for the expansion because there was some time that was going to have to pass before the plans were drawn and we were going go seek that financing. So we kind of boiled it down to, look, is this a project that we want to take a risk on where we could end up operating our 500-room hotel for a significant period of time because that expansion financing isn't available to us and we decided that in this environment that level of risk and that level of distraction wasn't appropriate for us.

Colin Reed

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Yeah, and it’s a 500 room hotel with very little convention space and that core competency is around the convention customer.

Bill Crow

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Fair enough. Thank you guys. I appreciate your time.

Colin Reed

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is coming from Kevin Milota with Bear Stearns. Please go ahead.

Kevin Milota

Analyst · Bear Stearns. Please go ahead

Hey guys. I just have a question on development side. I was wondering if you can give me a timing update on the projects at the Texas and the Opryland, and kind of where you are with design and when you expect to start breaking ground there?

Colin Reed

Analyst · Bear Stearns. Please go ahead

Yeah, Kevin, thanks. And let me do them differently. Opryland, we have basically completed all of the work necessary to know how we are laying out this project. We know where the room tower expansion is going to go. We know where the -- how we are going to do the convention expansion. It’s a difficult at Opryland because there is a risk that if we don't do Opryland right, we could create a little bit more disruption in that hotel than we are prepared to deal with. So we've been a little more deliberate. It's not as obvious at Opryland because of the multitude of opportunities to do this there. But we have now figured out that and we have now figured out how it all happens. Our people are in the – our architects are in the detail design, early part of the detail design side of that. We should have pretty much most of that done towards the end part of this year and we will get aggressively bidding this thing I would think sometime in the fourth quarter for early next year construction. Texas is a lot more straightforward. It's where we build the expansion is obvious, where we build the hotel tower is obvious, very little disruption at that place. We have actually I think, Dave, we are just about starting the parking garage expansion. The actual construction of that is sort of like this month in the next two to three weeks. We are in the design phase there. The only thing that we are wrestling with is how we lay out, where we lay out a new pool complex that we are going put into this hotel and we are debating whether it goes in one location or another, but we should have all of that thrashed through. That's the core of engineers debate that we are having. But I would hope that the timeline for Texas would be no worse than the timeline I just laid out for Opryland. I would hope that we could maybe in some parts of that building be under construction late this year, maybe early part of next year, the latest.

Kevin Milota

Analyst · Bear Stearns. Please go ahead

And the expectation is to have that finished by 2011?

Colin Reed

Analyst · Bear Stearns. Please go ahead

We have the 2011 Superbowl.

Kevin Milota

Analyst · Bear Stearns. Please go ahead

Right.

Colin Reed

Analyst · Bear Stearns. Please go ahead

I think it's 11, was it 12?

David Kloeppel

Analyst · Bear Stearns. Please go ahead

11

Colin Reed

Analyst · Bear Stearns. Please go ahead

11 Superbowl. Yeah, what we have said to the city we want the rooms all done for sure and the convention space we have been having some conversations with the NFL. We would like to get the convention space done, so that’s in our plans and so we will probably put our foot on the gas on that one.

Kevin Milota

Analyst · Bear Stearns. Please go ahead

Okay. In late 2010 for the Opryland as well?

Colin Reed.

Analyst · Bear Stearns. Please go ahead

No.

Kevin Milota

Analyst · Bear Stearns. Please go ahead

Is that going to be pushed?

Colin Reed

Analyst · Bear Stearns. Please go ahead

No, Opryland is a little bit more complex. We have to stage Opryland because of the disruption issues. And so, Opryland will probably be more I would think middle of '11 when we are done there.

Kevin Milota

Analyst · Bear Stearns. Please go ahead

Okay. And also just on a relative basis by property if you have derived some sort of guidance or say how the different properties are going to come in between the 4.5 to 7% RevPAR guidance for the year?

David Kloeppel

Analyst · Bear Stearns. Please go ahead

Yeah Kevin I'll take that and I will give you a sense on kind of directionally, quarterly as well. Let's see, Opryland should end up middle to high end of the range. Palms should end up in kind of the middle to lower end of the range and Texan probably about the middle of the range. That’s on RevPAR and total RevPar. And generally directionally in terms of quarterly, second quarter should probably look a reasonably similar to the first quarter, third and fourth quarter look like they will be a little bit stronger than first and second quarter were.

Kevin Milota

Analyst · Bear Stearns. Please go ahead

Okay. Thanks a lot guys.

Colin Reed

Analyst · Bear Stearns. Please go ahead

Okay.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is coming from William Truelove with UBS. Please go ahead.

William Truelove

Analyst · UBS. Please go ahead

Hi guys. In terms of the comments about the share repurchases versus some of the other development activities. As you mentioned, you feel like the share valuation is I guess, what it was ridiculous as well as that is going to mean any near-term phenomenon. So has there been discussions about being much more aggressive near term and say the share repurchases and increasing authorization relative to maybe slowing down other CapEx expenditures such as the expansion of Opryland, which could have disruptions and what not? Can you give us a sense for how you are looking at those two options? Thanks.

Colin Reed

Analyst · UBS. Please go ahead

That’s a remarkably good question and it's something that we are in dialog with. We have our board meeting next week in Washington, Monday, Tuesday. We are going to be talking to our board about equity values and growth opportunities. And I think I just want to leave it at that right now, but it's top of mind for us and what we are trying to do is figure out how we take advantage of this moment in time but at the same time do not do anything to jeopardize the long term growth of this company.

David Kloeppel

Analyst · UBS. Please go ahead

And well, it should be noted that we have a limitation imposed upon us by our high yield bonds that limits the amount of a share buyback that we can do. And the current authorization is an appropriate level given the limitations under the bonds. That limitation grows over time, but for the short term the current authorization is appropriate given the bond limitations.

William Truelove

Analyst · UBS. Please go ahead

Okay, great. Thanks.

Colin Reed

Analyst · UBS. Please go ahead

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is coming from Will Marks with JMP Securities. Please go ahead.

Colin Reed

Analyst · JMP Securities. Please go ahead

Melissa, I think we will do one more after Will and call it a day. And then if anyone else has questions, we can take them after this call and you know how to get hold of David, Mark or myself.

Will Marks

Analyst · JMP Securities. Please go ahead

Thanks for that Colin and Dave and Mark. Couple of questions. One is, should we assume that the strategy of buying smaller hotels like La Cantera is on hold for now given the incredible value of your stock price?

Colin Reed

Analyst · JMP Securities. Please go ahead

Yeah, I think you got that right and what's amazing to me is how few hotel transactions you see being done right through the whole entire country. I mean the pace of buying and selling hotels at last year I think in the first quarter there was almost 200 down, this year it's like 30 down. The world has changed almost here and I think we would be in denial if we didn’t believed it had.

Will Marks

Analyst · JMP Securities. Please go ahead

Okay, great. And second just a question on, I don’t think it's been brought up at the cancellations and had there been any and do you expect that that's usually something to ask?

Colin Reed

Analyst · JMP Securities. Please go ahead

Yeah, our cancellations are always baked into the room numbers that we show that net numbers. I mean we always eliminate cancellations from the bookings that we share with you and I don’t, David I look at these every month and my sense is that these cancellations are not tracking in any abnormal pace just because of this environment. I just think it's tough we are seeing. Yeah, I mean cancellations actually are running a little bit lower than they were this time last year. So there is nothing that they are saying that economic environment is stopping us to steal lots and lots of additional cancellations

Will Marks

Analyst · JMP Securities. Please go ahead

Okay, great. Thanks guys.

Colin Reed

Analyst · JMP Securities. Please go ahead

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our final question is coming from Nap Overton with Morgan Keegan. Please go ahead.

Nap Overton

Analyst · Morgan Keegan. Please go ahead

Good morning. Most of the questions I had have been answered, but I was just wondering if you could comment on have you seen over the past six to nine months any increase in resistance to pricing for bookings to years out and what does that price increase look like or was it feeling like for 2009?

Colin Reed

Analyst · Morgan Keegan. Please go ahead

Our sales people would tell us that they have resistance on pricing with that single contract, it's just the right is. But as you know Nap, we have this internal system called RedMax and everyone of that contracts are priced against the system that we have, the specific days that a customer is coming we have a specific pricing grade in this RedMax system and I don’t think we are seeing too much of a deterioration, David, to what we are actually contracting contracts at to what that set in RedMax. But to me this is really about making sure that our customers sat level stay up and customers leave happy because those customers are customers that don’t tend to want to fight over nickel and a dime. So long answer Nap, we are not seeing any compression in our long term pricing.

Nap Overton

Analyst · Morgan Keegan. Please go ahead

Thank you.

Colin Reed

Analyst · Morgan Keegan. Please go ahead

And Nap, did you enjoy the hotel?

Nap Overton

Analyst · Morgan Keegan. Please go ahead

A bit.

Colin Reed.

Analyst · Morgan Keegan. Please go ahead

Excellent. Alright. Melissa, I think then that’s the final question. Nap, did you have another question? He is gone. Okay, Melissa, I think that’s the end of the call. Again, thank you everyone who has been on the call and any other questions you may have, you know how to get hold of David, Mark and myself. And good day to all of you. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This does conclude today's Gaylord Entertainment Company's first quarter 2008 earnings conference call. You may now disconnect.