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Resources Connection, Inc. (RGP)

Q4 2020 Earnings Call· Thu, Jul 23, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Resources Connection, Inc. Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. At this time, I'd now like to turn the call over to your host for today's Ms. Alice Washington, General Counsel of Resources Connection. Ms. Washington, you may now begin.

Alice Washington

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for participating on this call. Joining me here today are Kate Duchene, our Chief Executive Officer; Tim Brackney, our Chief Operating Officer; and Jennifer Ryu, our Chief Financial Officer. During this call, we will be commenting on our results for the fourth quarter ended May 30, 2020. By now you should have a copy of today's press release. If you need a copy and are unable to access it on our Web site, please call Shannon McPhee 714-430-6363. During this call, we may make forward-looking statements regarding future events or future financial performance of the company. Such statements are predictions and actual events or results may differ materially. Please see our report on Form 10-K for the year ended May 25, 2019 for a discussion of risks, uncertainties and other factors such as seasonal and economic conditions and epidemic diseases. Such factors may cause our business, results of operations and financial condition to differ materially from results of operations and financial conditions expressed or implied by forward-looking statements made during this call. I'll now turn the call over to our CEO, Kate Duchene.

Kate Duchene

Analyst

Thank you, Alice. Welcome to our Q4 fiscal '20 earnings call. We appreciate you listening in today. Let me start with an overview of the fourth quarter and certain highlights. Tim will offer some operational color and then Jen will dive deeper into financial performance. Our operating model proved resilient in the face of unprecedented economic disruption. All revenue at 178.6 million was down 1.4% constant currency. Gross profit was 72.2 million in the quarter, a decline of 1.1% from prior year quarter. Yet our gross margin of 40.4% represents an improvement of 30 basis points from prior year quarter. This is a reflection of a reduction and pass through expense related to delivery. Adjusted EBITDA increased to 18.6 million or 10.4% of revenue up from 9.6% in the prior year quarter. With respect to COVID-19 impact, subsequent to the end of the fourth quarter, we started to see a slight uptick in buying environment in June. But new project signings across the board do remain soft. Our teams have done an exceptional job of managing extensions, but most new projects with new clients or new buyers within our clients environments are still on hold or pushing out. To that point, revenue will continue to be challenged until greater clarity exists in the macro environment. Tim will provide further market trends in Q1 during his remarks. Now let me provide an update on our progress with our digital staffing platform or HuGo, the name we've given this tool. HuGo combines the word Human and the word Go and is a perfect reflection of our brand identity. We are making good progress with our development, process redesign and integration efforts that have been impacted by some COVID-19 related delays. We are fully committed to getting the technology and experience right, so…

Tim Brackney

Analyst

Thank you, Kate, and good afternoon, everyone. I will highlight operating trends and initiatives that impacted our results and operations for the fourth quarter and discuss early first quarter trends. I am extremely proud of the way our company has responded to a world afflicted by global pandemic. We adjusted quickly to virtual delivery and we're able to preserve a healthy average run rates through the quarter. We continue to engage directly, albeit virtually, with clients and prospects who are now more accustomed to this new way of working. As Kate discussed, our clients embracing a virtual delivery will benefit RGP as it is paved the clear shift in the way we staff engagements and execute on projects. This will enable us to unlock our talent to operate in a more borderless fashion, as proximity has become a less important consideration than in pre-COVID days. This is a meaningful opportunity for our business, as it streamlines the matching of supply and demand, allowing us to attract and retain talent more broadly and provide a larger catalogue of skills and competencies on an agile basis to our clients. It also provides for flexibility and using a more modular approach to complex projects execution. We believe this will be a sustainable trend that will outlive the pandemic and contribute to our business long-term. Now, let me turn to our fourth quarter operations. As noted in our third quarter remarks, we saw strong weekly velocity and pipeline activity at the beginning of the fourth quarter. As we move through the fourth quarter, we were able to maintain positive operational metrics with velocity pipeline and activity holding steady until mid-April when we experienced some degradation in momentum. The tightening environment around new project starts and business development softened our pipeline and sales activity. This…

Jennifer Ryu

Analyst

Thank you, Tim, and good afternoon, everyone. As a reminder, the fourth quarter of fiscal '20 consisted of 14 weeks as compared to our typical 13 week quarters. Starting with an overview of our fourth quarter results, as anticipated, fourth quarter revenue was significantly impacted by the COVID pandemic across most of our market. The adverse impact of the pandemic was mostly offset by the additional week this quarter. Top-line revenue for the fourth quarter of fiscal '20 was 178.6 million a 2% decrease from the comparable quarter a year ago and a 6.3% increase sequentially. On a constant currency basis revenue decreased 1.4% year-over-year and increased 6.7% sequentially. Our fourth quarter gross margin was 40.4% up 30 basis points from the fourth quarter of fiscal '19 and 390 basis points sequentially. SG&A expenses for the quarter, which included a restructuring charge of 5 million, or 62 million or 34.7% of revenue compared to 56.9 million, or 31.2% of revenue last year. Our net income for the fourth quarter was 4.1 million or $0.13 per diluted share, compared to 9.4 million or $0.29 per diluted share in the prior year quarter. The impact of the restructuring charge on diluted EPS in the fourth quarter of fiscal '20 was $0.11 per share. In Q4 adjusted EBITDA, which we defined as EBITDA before stock compensation, contingent consideration adjustments and restructuring charges was 18.6 million or 10.4% of revenue up from 17.5 million, or 9.6% of revenue in the prior year quarter, reflecting the impact of favorable SG&A expenses. Now, let me provide some color around our fourth quarter revenue results. Again, the fourth quarter consisted of 14 weeks. To ensure consistency, comparability and clarity of our results, we compared revenue on a same day basis, calculated by applying the number of business…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Josh Vogel with Sidoti & Co. You may proceed with your question.

Josh Vogel

Analyst

My first question is, talking about how virtual delivery is here to stay. And I was wondering if you could maybe give a sense of how much of the business you think can and will remain virtual long-term?

Kate Duchene

Analyst

I'll jump in first, Tim, and then I'll hand it to you and bear with us, because we're all virtual now delivering on this call. Josh, welcome to our call. We appreciate you picking up coverage on the company. I would say and what research is telling us now that probably half of knowledge workers will remain more virtual on the other side of this pandemic and I think that we will expect about the same. We're finding that with tools and technology, it's an a very efficient approach and a cost effective approach for our clients. And now, Tim, I'll turn it to you.

Tim Brackney

Analyst

Hey, Josh. Good afternoon. Yes, I agree with that. And I think what would be interesting too, is that the -- some of this will be sort of immediate. And I think that what Kate was talking about in terms of 50% of knowledge workers remaining virtual, seems like the right order of magnitude. But I also think that, as companies start to change their procurement habits and they get used to the idea that they can actually have access to a broader range of talent, they'll start to embrace that more and more over time but even at 50%, that's a dramatic difference, right out of the gate caused by COVID.

Josh Vogel

Analyst

Okay, great. And thank you, I do look forward to working with you and the team going forward. Just on that vein, now you're getting a better handle on the necessary real estate footprint. And I think you kind of alluded that there's additional room to pare that down. With that comment with regard to North America only, or were you talking about globally? I know you're still evaluating what to do in Europe and I guess maybe, can you share how many offices you had at year-end and where you may be see that at this time next year?

Kate Duchene

Analyst

Yes. So I think we'll continue to pursue a real estate contraction strategy. We will be announcing more around our real estate footprint in Europe on our next call, but we're continuing and actively evaluating what we need both in the U.S. and in Asia Pac. I would say from our experience Asia Pac still has a need for on premises location, simply because the way culturally they work and real estate arrangements with regard to personal choices. So I'm not sure what contract as much in Asia Pac but we sure see the efficiency of doing it and we were very pleased that we had executed put together this plan and executed it largely before the pandemic hit. We were preparing for this anyway. I think COVID accelerated some of our plans, but we have been looking across the board at how do we make the business most efficient and also satisfy the desires of talent. And we all know that the generational shifts are happening in talent, that the millennials will be the majority presence in our workforce. And so we need to prepare for the choices that talent wants to pursue as well. So that's why I talk, it's not just about a real estate strategy. It's about a technology and a human capital strategy that are all converging here. And then Jen, can you answer the question about number of offices?

Jennifer Ryu

Analyst

Yes, sure. We have roughly a little about 70 offices and importance to our plan; we either exit or sublet approximately half of what we had planned in North America. And we do plan to continue to execute against that. Although, we are seeing that in the market right now with the shift of going virtual, we do expect to experience some challenge in trying to sublet the rest of the location.

Josh Vogel

Analyst

Sure. Okay. That's helpful. Kate, I believe you said the pre tax savings target is now around 10 million to 12 million. If I recall, I thought it was between 16 million and 19 million before. Can you maybe just bridge that gap for me?

Kate Duchene

Analyst

I think part of that is that we're still working on the real estate exit. And so that plan is still underway. So we haven't achieved all of the savings that we hope to. I mean, Jen, and the facilities group here are working on that actively, but we haven't seen all of that pull through yet.

Jennifer Ryu

Analyst

Just to add to that, there's also a little bit of timing too, as far as the termination of employees and the timing of their exit.

Kate Duchene

Analyst

Yes, sure. Sorry, Jen, I should have added to that. Some of the folks in the restructuring plan for various business related reasons won't be exiting the business until the end of Q1, for example and that's what Jen's talking about.

Josh Vogel

Analyst

Okay, great. And just one last one, I guess just in light of the pandemic and environment general. Just any comments you have on how Veracity has performed relative to your expectations and targets.

Kate Duchene

Analyst

Yes. I will start, and then, Jen, I think you can pull in. We are very pleased with Veracity and their addition to our business. I think they too were slightly impacted by COVID, but probably at a lesser degree than RGP's business. We expect growth out of them in this fiscal year. Everything I read and all the research that I'm reading tells me that digital transformation agendas will be accelerated. And if there's one area that businesses want to invest in, it happens to be in their sweet spot. So I'm very pleased that we have them in our arsenal now and that we will -- as I said in my prepared remarks, be very focused on introducing them more broadly to our client base.

Josh Vogel

Analyst

All right.

Jennifer Ryu

Analyst

We should pretty much take that as Veracity performed as expected. Yes.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Mark Marcon with Baird. You may proceed with your question.

Mark Marcon

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed with your question.

I've got a couple of questions. One would basically be, can you just talk about the -- what you've seen since quarter end just in terms of how the trends unfolded? You mentioned that $11.5 million on a weekly run rate basis. But do you think things are getting a little bit better and we've seen the bottom or you feel like things are still a little bit on the challenging side or harder to predict?

Kate Duchene

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed with your question.

Yes, I'll jump in. And then, I'm going to really turn this question Mark over to Tim. And so thank you for jumping on our call today. I know we advanced our call by a day. So we appreciate all of you making that work with your calendars. I think as we said, we saw the bottom happened in May for our business and from there, we're starting to see some stabilization and some improvement, but I wouldn't say it's robust yet. And certainly all the news about the reemergence and large markets locking down again creates a lot of uncertainty in the client base. And when clients are uncertain, they get more conservative. So while we've been great at extensions and clients understand the value in the work, we're doing it, it's hard to get that new project win. So that's the color I chair. And then Tim, I'll hand it to you to provide a little more.

Tim Brackney

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed with your question.

Yes. I think that's right. And hi, Mark. I would say we stabilized within the last four or five weeks very stable, I think the difficult part of your question is when to call the bottom. I think in a situation like this, it's virtually impossible to call the bottom because there's so many things that are out of our control. But I think when I look at our in process metrics, obviously, within all of our theatres operation in terms of being close to our clients. It's still a tenuous environment. So we don't take anything for granted. We are stable over the last four, five, six weeks. But again, I would just say, I wouldn't call it a bottom because I feel like the new move things pretty rapidly these days.

Mark Marcon

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed with your question.

That's an understatement. With regards to your international operations, can you just give a little bit more color just in terms of what you're seeing there in terms of the trends, particularly with regards to Asia Pac, given that they're further along in terms of coming out of the downturn, or at least in terms of being impacted by COVID? To what extent are you seeing some sort of stabilization there?

Kate Duchene

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed with your question.

Yes. Tim, do you want to take this one?

Tim Brackney

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed with your question.

Sure. Yes, I mean, I think Asia Pac -- in my remarks I talked about kind of the difference in timing and geographic response. Asia Pac is a really good example of that. I mean, they were kind of the bellwether for the situation. It was the inflection point for what we're dealing with now. And just kind of the way that it was contained in that environment is a good way to think about whether or not, I mean in other words, it's easier for me to say I feel like they've stabilized over a much longer stretch. They were sort of lacked in Q2 stabilized in Q3 and have been pretty stable when I look at velocity and pipeline. And pipeline is challenging this environment generally as buying patterns are a little bit more cautious. But in terms of velocity and looking at the overall business they've been very stable throughout the entire quarter and into the early part of this fiscal year.

Mark Marcon

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed with your question.

Great. And then, with regards to internal headcount, can you kind of give us a feel there you stipulated what the charge was for the quarter, where do we stand in terms of headcount and what percentage of the productive capacity that you maintain?

Kate Duchene

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed with your question.

Jen, do you want to take this?

Jennifer Ryu

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed with your question.

Yes. So what was in the North America plan that we announced last quarter was roughly about 8% of total headcount. And we still have a number of headcount that is going to exit to Kate's point by the end of Q1.

Kate Duchene

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed with your question.

Mark, I just add to that quickly. Headcount, we all know that in our human capital business, headcount is the largest component of our cost structure. So we're continuing to look at all headcount to make sure that it's producing the right return for the business. I think we're very conservative right now on adding any headcount. You might see us invest say in, our two largest markets in North America, for example, our TriState in Northern California. If there's a market that needs headcount, it may be in TriState, for example. But we will be very conservative on adding headcount and ensuring that the investments we've made in our advisory project services group, which are really our kind of superstar subject matter experts, seller doers, that we're getting the right productivity out of that group because they do have both sales targets and utilization metrics now.

Mark Marcon

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed with your question.

Great, how is the utilization running with regards to that advisory group at this point, obviously it's a depressed environment. But it's curious what you're seeing?

Kate Duchene

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed with your question.

Yes. So Mark, we don't have one set answer for that group, because it's a little bit of a mix. Some have higher sales targets and lower utilization, I'd say across the board. And Tim, you correct me, but we're looking at 50% to 80% utilization depending upon where you might fall in the scale. And I think we're doing a good job of managing that and keeping them busy.

Tim Brackney

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed with your question.

I would agree that I mean, it definitely just when you think about the velocity, the velocity kind of cut across our business. So our utilization was impacted a bit. But what I was alluding to my remarks when I said that we're more flexible and thinking about how we deploy on engagements. Typically in our APS organization, we try to utilize a leverage model where we spread some of our APS resources over multiple engagements. We're much more open to almost having a [second minute] [ph] resources, even within that model now, for especially for some of our high profile clients for and having more dedication of resources to an initiative where we might not have been as open to that before and that's helping a little bit with respect to making sure that we're getting a return on investment from that group.

Mark Marcon

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed with your question.

Great. And then, can you just remind us what percentage exposure you would have to -- some of the Sunbelt markets in California that where the impact of COVID seems to -- has reemerged. And just what are you seeing on the ground real-time now, out of those markets? That's a very short-term question, but just curious.

Tim Brackney

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed with your question.

Yes, I'll jump in and start with that. I mean, I'm in California in the Sunbelt. And what I will tell you is that our California markets, actually, particularly Los Angeles and Southern California and Northern California, where I am today, we've actually we've stabilized kind of earlier and starting to see more opportunity. In fact, our Western region right now when I think about pipeline for Q1 feels like it's one of the stronger parts of our business. Now, as I was saying earlier, that could all change if all of a sudden we have a major shift in ordinances around what we can do and can't do with our clients. But right now, it feels that piece of the Sunbelt feels pretty strong as does Texas, which I will almost give the same commentary to you. California and Texas have been have been strong -- have been stronger as we come out of Q4 into Q1 And then, our Phoenix practice in Arizona is getting hit pretty hard right now, has stayed consistent. So we haven't -- we're not giving back more ground because of these outbreaks right now. But again, that's something that could change.

Mark Marcon

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed with your question.

That's great to hear. And then, can you just talk about what your hopes are for HuGo as we think about '21 and just kind of benchmarking particularly once we go into the new calendar year and, things hopefully will be stable?

Kate Duchene

Analyst · Baird. You may proceed with your question.

Yes. Let me jump in here. So, as I said in my prepared remarks Mark, we have been a little delayed by COVID. And that I think is to be expected but we're working very productively now, remotely. We're now at the stage where we're bringing the product development and really the back office processes and infrastructure together. We expect to launch as I said, sometime this fiscal year and we will start with a dedicated market. And then expand, our plan right now is to move pretty quickly thereafter into two other larger markets and grow from there. But we're not sharing predictions about volume yet, we'd rather see the tool become productive, and then add it to our reporting structure. But we're very bullish on this as a necessary tool to allow clients to engage with us for well defined work that they have in their environment. So, we're all very excited about how this platform can help us grow the business overall.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Andrew Steinerman with JPMorgan. You may proceed with your question.

Andrew Steinerman

Analyst · JPMorgan. You may proceed with your question.

I have three questions. The first one is, when you talk about the weekly trend to five -- the weekly trend in the quarter so far and it gave us the $11.5 million average for the non-holiday weeks. My question is, could you speak about that on a year-over-year basis? I surely remember in past conference calls, you've spoken about year-over-year trends early in the quarter. That's my first question. My second question is just to verify that we're talking about a 13-week quarter, I think all the quarters of this fiscal year are 13 weeks. But I did want to verify that. And then my third question is, could you also just give us a sense of that July 4 week, we know it's impacted by the holiday, but it would be helpful to have a six week trend if you're willing to give it to us.

Kate Duchene

Analyst · JPMorgan. You may proceed with your question.

Yes. So Andrew, thanks for your questions. And again, thanks for adjusting your schedule to attend. I am going to confirm it's a 13-week quarter and all of ours this year will be 13-week quarters. Jen, I'm going to turn it to you for the year-over-year for the third question.

Jennifer Ryu

Analyst · JPMorgan. You may proceed with your question.

Yes. So I mean, if you were to project that out through the rest of the quarter with a 15.5 million weekly revenue average compared year-over-year to last year, we're looking at roughly, about a 12%, 13%. Decline?

Andrew Steinerman

Analyst · JPMorgan. You may proceed with your question.

Okay. And then, Jen about the last question. Jen, only if you're willing, but I'm asking for -- you gave us five weeks of the quarter. We're six weeks in now. Would you just be willing to give us that July 4th week would help for our modeling?

Jennifer Ryu

Analyst · JPMorgan. You may proceed with your question.

Yes. I mean, July 4th week is from a runway perspective, it's in line with the rest of the non-holiday week.

Andrew Steinerman

Analyst · JPMorgan. You may proceed with your question.

Oh, so that's also like 11.5, you're saying?

Jennifer Ryu

Analyst · JPMorgan. You may proceed with your question.

No. Given that we have a holiday, so if you blow that out? Yes. Correct. I mean, if you were to compare on the same day basis, it's roughly 11.5, correct.

Andrew Steinerman

Analyst · JPMorgan. You may proceed with your question.

Let me just make sure I got it right, Jen. I think you're saying that I have to subtract a day from that week and else wise, it would be on an 11.5 week except minus one day.

Jennifer Ryu

Analyst · JPMorgan. You may proceed with your question.

Correct.

Kate Duchene

Analyst · JPMorgan. You may proceed with your question.

Yes.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to Kate Duchene for any further remarks.

Kate Duchene

Analyst

I just want to again, thank everyone for joining us today. We look forward to talking to next after Q1 of fiscal '21. Everyone stay safe. And thank you again.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.