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Royal Gold, Inc. (RGLD)

Q2 2010 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 4, 2010

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, my name is Kim and I’ll be your conference operator today. At this time I would like to welcome everyone to the Royal Gold fiscal second quarter 2010 conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers remarks there will be a question and answer session. (Operator’s instructions). Thank you. Ms. Karen Gross you may begin your conference.

Karen P. Gross

Management

Thank you operator and hello everyone. Welcome to our second quarter conference call that is being web cast live. You will be able to access a replay of the call on our website at www.royalgold.com. Also on the website you will find our release detailing our financial results. As always this discussion falls under the Safe Harbor Provision of the private securities litigation reformat. A discussion of the company’s current risks and uncertainties as included in the Safe Harbor statement in today’s press release and is presented in greater detail in our filings with the SEC. Participating on the call today are Tony Jenson, President and CEO, Stefan Wenger, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer, Bill Heissenbuttel, Vice President in Corporate Development, Bill Zisch, Vice President in Operations and Bruce Kirchhoff, Vice President and General Counsel. A Q&A will follow our comments. We will also be discussing the company free cash flow, which is a non-GAAP financial measure. There is a free cash reconciliation in today’s release. Now I’ll turn the call over to Tony.

Tony Jensen

Management

Good morning and thank you for joining us today. We are pleased to report another quarter of record financial performance. Our fourth consecutive quarter of record revenues and free cash flow. During the quarter we achieved $34.7 million in royalty revenue and free cash flow of $28.6 million or $0.71 per share. Free cash flow was 82% of total revenue. Net income was $9.6 million or $0.24 per basic share. And our percentage of revenue from gold was 84%. In looking at our financial performance, over the first six months of our fiscal, Royal Gold achieved record revenue and free cash flow for this period as well. In our first half royalty revenue was $60.9 million. Free cash flow was $51.2 million. And net income was $16.7 million for $0.41 per basic share. This compares to royalty revenue of $30.7 million. Free cash flow of $24.8 million. And net income of $27.1 million or $0.80 per basic share for the first half of fiscal 2009. It is important to remember that last year’s comparable periods included the effects of a one-time gain of $31.5 million or $0.60 per basic share resulting from the restructuring of our Cortez royalties in conjunction with the Barrick transaction. So excluding that one time event you can see that our earnings were significantly higher in the current period. Our top performing properties in the second quarter were Cortez and Taparko. Together these two properties generated nearly $18 million in revenue. While Robinson, Leeville and Mulatos contributed a combined total of $9 million during the period. The average price of gold for the quarter was $1,100 per ounce compared with $795 per ounce for the period ending December 31, 2008. While this represents a 38% increase, our revenue increased by 138%. This demonstrates the strength of the production performance of our portfolio. And these record results come prior to any meaningful contribution from the Penasquito in Andacollo royalties. Both of these projects are in the commissioning and ramp up stage and are expected to become our two largest revenue contributors over the next six to nine months. Now I’ll turn the call over to Bill Zisch for an update on our key assets.

William M. Zisch

Management

Thank you, Tony, and good morning everyone. While there were many contributors to the quarter’s record performance, I will once again focus my comments on the principle properties that have had notable accomplishments or changes since our last conference call. I’ll start with Penasquito. As I reported during last quarter’s call, the first lead and zinc concentrates were shipped in early November. And Goldcorp has continued to produce and ship concentrates since that time. They began operational production in January and expect commercial production for both the first and second sag lines to be reached in the third quarter of this year. Goldcorp expects 2010 production to be over 150,000 ounces of gold, 10 million ounces of silver, and 100 million pounds of both zinc and lead. At Canadian Malartic as of the end of December, construction start up at Canadian Malartic is complete and the relocation program is about 95% complete. Osisko has identified good advanced stages of detailed engineering, sound planning and collaboration with all stake holders as keys to their progress. Investments today represent about 30% of the project budget with commitments slightly over 60% of budget. Full project funding is in place and Osisko remains on track for a 2011 start up. Osisko announced an 8% increase in gold resources at the Canadian Malartic south Barnet project. They anticipate that the completion of an economic evaluation study during the first quarter will allow them to update their reserves at that time. In a few minutes, Tony will discuss the Andacollo closing and the significant of this new property to Royal Gold. However, as part of my operations review I want to share a few of the key updates. Tech has announced that construction at the Andacollo hyper gene project is substantially complete. Wet commission is also…

Tony Jensen

Management

Thanks for the update, Bill. Now I’d like to talk about some important developments that have recently taken place. First of all I’m very happy to report that we closed the Andacollo transaction last week. Total consideration for the transaction was approximately $218 million in cash and $1.2 million shares of Royal Gold common stock. The significant transaction is our single largest deal in the history of the company. And we expect this property to be a corner stone royalty for the next couple of decades. We are pleased to be associated with an operator of tech capabilities. We maintain frequent contact with Tech as they work through the water issue at site and their responsible management of community concerns allow Tech’s subsidiary CDA to achieve a mutually beneficial resolution for them and the region as well. As Bill mentioned, operations are ramping up as planned and we look forward to full commercial production during the first half of calendar 2010. I’d just like to step off line here for a moment and mention that we had our entire board to this site just two weeks ago. And we are all very impressed with what we saw and certainly for me it was an amazing transformation over the one year period since I had last been on site seeing the entire property ready to go into production. Particularly exciting to be there at a point in time where the first ore was introduced into the seg mill. No doubt there was a great sense of pride with the CDA staff and also the construction team as the first ore did go through the mill. And we’re simply pleased to be associated with this project. It’s going to be a fantastic royalty for us, we believe. And perhaps a bit of…

Operator

Operator

(Operator’s Instructions) We’ll pause just for a moment to comply the Q&A rooster. Your first question comes from the line of Adam Schatzker from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Adam Schatzker - RBC Capital Markets

Analyst

Just a few questions if I could, please. Looking as you mentioned in your comments there at the performance of Cortez, Robinson and Leeville, can you just comment on the sustainability of those or should we expect to see those perhaps coming down a little bit in this year coming forward here?

William M. Zisch

Management

On those three specific ones I would answer that Cortez is (inaudible) is scheduled to have a bit of a softer year this year. Although there is a bit of uncertainty associated with the permitting challenge that they have there currently, Adam. And so there is the stay that’s being filed on the Cortez Hills property. And that may impact the decisions of where Barrick choices to mine during the course of this year. So that’s a big up in the air. With regard to Robinson, I think they’re revised – I shouldn’t say their revised, their forecast for what they’re looking to produce this year is a little bit above what they actually produced last year. So that seems to be sustainable. And with regard to Leeville, I think that’s a reasonably solid and secure property now. They did have a very good 2009. But we don’t have any information at the present time that would indicate that there would be less than what they did in 2009.

Adam Schatzker - RBC Capital Markets

Analyst

Okay. And just a question on Taparko if I could. I was looking at what you have written in the press release today with respect to the completion test. Can I assume from what you mentioned there that they have achieved a completion test?

Tony Jensen

Management

Bill, would you like to answer that?

William M. Zisch

Management

Adam, thanks for the question. The completion test is a 90 day completion test started on December 1, so end the end of February. So right now we really can’t assume anything with regard to where they will end up. As I mentioned their December performance was quite good. And they exceeded the completion test results in December. Their results in January continue to be similar. So everything looks pretty good but we can’t determine anything until the end of February.

Adam Schatzker - RBC Capital Markets

Analyst

Okay. And on other thing, just sort of looking at the model here. Am I right in assuming that they’re very close now to hitting the cumulative payments of $35 million?

Tony Jensen

Management

I’ll ask Stefan to answer that.

Stefan L. Wenger

Analyst

To date we’ve received about $20 million under the first royalty to PP1 on that royalty. I think about $5 million of the $9 million for this quarter came from that PP1. So you can assume those consistent levels there’s three or four more quarters under that before we reach that cap under the PP1.

Adam Schatzker - RBC Capital Markets

Analyst

Okay. And I guess I have to ask about IRC before I let you guys go to the next question. Your probably not going to answer it, but if Franco comes back with another bid how aggressive do you think you guys would be? Is this something that you feel you absolutely have to have or is there certainly a limitation?

Tony Jensen

Management

Adam, we’re not going to answer that question directly on it. Just doesn’t make sense for us to do that. But I will say that we are very pleased with the combination of IRC and Royal Gold. We think there is certainly some merit to getting these two companies together at the right price. But we are a disciplined organization and we never pursue a transaction that doesn’t make sense for our shareholders.

Adam Schatzker - RBC Capital Markets

Analyst

Okay. Great. I appreciate your time everyone. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Andy Schopick from Nutmeg Securities. Your line is now open. Andrew Schopick – Nutmeg Securities: Thanks. Stefan, I’m going to come back to Taparko. I’ve got several questions. But what I just heard you say has confused me a little bit. Because in 2008 you generated royalties of about $7.4 million from Taparko, then $10.43 million in fiscal 2009. And now I see another $8.9 which would bring us up to a cumulative $26.8 million of royalty revenue. That suggests to me that $35 million could be recovered in its entirety in the next quarter or the current quarter. So I’m a little confused about the response that you gave.

Stefan L. Wenger

Analyst

Yeah. Let me just address that and step back to Taparko. There’s two royalties that are currently paying right now at Taparko. The first royalty is a thick straight of 15%. And that’s the one on which the $35 million cap is determined. And then there’s a second royalty that’s also contributing to those numbers that you just gave which I don’t have a cumulative number here for the combined royalties. But they sound good. So that PP2 royalty is a sliding scale based on gold price to buy by 1,000. So right now it’s paying 10%. So that cap is only based on the first royalty. Andrew Schopick – Nutmeg Securities: Which is a fixed rate?

Stefan L. Wenger

Analyst

Yeah. Which is the 15% royalty. Andrew Schopick – Nutmeg Securities: So, if the cumulative payments to date, how much of that is fixed rate? We have $26.8 million cumulative.

Stefan L. Wenger

Analyst

$20 million under that fixed rate in royalty. Andrew Schopick – Nutmeg Securities: $20 million has been paid?

Stefan L. Wenger

Analyst

Yeah. Andrew Schopick – Nutmeg Securities: Okay. Thanks for clarifying that. Also I have several other questions. I want to come back to Robinson and the situation there. There were provisional pricing adjustments at Robinson. I’m not sure I understand the conditions that caused that and what to anticipant in the current fiscal year. I mean, copper is down over $50 just so far this year. What are the issues with respect to royalty recognitions at Robinson?

Stefan L. Wenger

Analyst

Essentially I think you’re referring to last year where we had some negative provisional pricing adjustments? Andrew Schopick – Nutmeg Securities: Yeah.

Stefan L. Wenger

Analyst

And last year we saw copper during our fiscal second quarter last year we saw copper drop from nearly $4 to, I think, $1.50 in just over a month and a half. So during that quarter we had some provisional pricing adjustments that negatively impacted our royalty. I think we recorded negative $1.3 million in royalty revenue during that quarter last year. Andrew Schopick – Nutmeg Securities: Correct.

Stefan L. Wenger

Analyst

The way Robinson is paid on their copper shipments, they get paid on initial shipment based on volume and price at that time. The volume is trued up about a month or so following that provisional payment. And then pricing is settled somewhere in the neighborhood of three to four months following that initial shipment. So when you saw those significant price changes last year, we follow Robinson’s payment so we also had to participate in those negative pricing adjustments. During this year to date we have had significant pricing adjustments that have impacted our revenue materially. Over the last couple of quarters there had been positive adjustments, but they’re not significant. Andrew Schopick – Nutmeg Securities: But with copper coming down again, is the likelihood of pricing adjustments increasing as we go through the balance of the fiscal year?

Stefan L. Wenger

Analyst

Yeah. I mean, we’re subject to both positive and negative pricing adjustments. So it’s something that’s resident in our revenue from Robinson each quarter. To the extent prices change on copper we’re going to have some impact to that. I can’t forecast what the copper price – Andrew Schopick – Nutmeg Securities: Yeah. I understand. Either for you or Tony, if gold had averaged $1,000 an ounce in the quarter instead of $1,100, how would that have – back me u pa little, how would that have impacted your royalty revenue in the quarter?

Stefan L. Wenger

Analyst

We have a chart, that’s actually disclosed in our 10Q that we’re going to file tomorrow that covers the change in the price. I think for the quarter if gold had average $50 higher (inaudible) we would have had an impact on revenue of about $2.5 million. So if you take that to $100 that would have been a change of $5 million either way. Andrew Schopick – Nutmeg Securities: And of course the situations changing because of the acquisitions and the properties now that you’re acquiring here. I don’t know how that enters into the equation. But they had to call you and possibly IRC coming into the mix. But I suspect there will be certainly some impact there. The other question I had was with respect to the Barrick royalty portfolio in general. That contributed, according to the annual report $12.2 million in fiscal year ’09. Can you give us some sense of how that contribution is likely to track in the current fiscal year?

Stefan L. Wenger

Analyst

I don't have a specific number for that because we really don't think of that as the Barrick portfolio we honor. It's part of our portfolio. I could follow up with you with a specific number following the call. We can put that out. Andrew Schopick – Nutmeg Securities: Okay, thank you.

Tony Jensen

Management

You're giving him a good workout, Andy. Andrew Schopick – Nutmeg Securities: I could go on, but Karen, you're right, I do have followup questions for you after the call.

Tony Jensen

Management

Let's move on. Thank you, Andy. Andrew Schopick – Nutmeg Securities: Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Imaru Casanova with BJM Securities.

Imaru Casanova - BJM Securities

Analyst · BJM Securities.

Hi, everyone. I had a couple of questions on the quarter near the beginning of production. I know Teck has guided production of about 53,000 ounces of gold on average. Did you guys have any indication of what the ramp up is going to be like starting mid-this year and for the following calendar year as well?

Tony Jensen

Management

Let me address that and I'll turn to Bill Zisch if he's got anything more to add to that, but the 53,000 was an average over the first 10 years. Now we know the grade's a little bit higher on the front end of that so we'd expect a little bit better than the average, but you're right. We have a ramp up period here that Teck has said is going to be at commercial production in the first half. So these things take a little time. It's a little bit difficult for us to forecast whether commercial production would be achieved in one, two, three, or four months. So I think I'm going to have to just stay a little bit light on guidance there, although the early indications are the ramp up is going very well.

Imaru Casanova - BJM Securities

Analyst · BJM Securities.

Okay, that's good. Now if you could help me clarify this so that I can adjust my model, the 53,000 is that payable gold production or should we apply a recovery to that?

Tony Jensen

Management

Yeah. Looking to Bill Heissenbuttel here.

William Heissenbuttel

Analyst · BJM Securities.

That's produced, right. 53,000 ounces, Imaru, is the produced amount so then we would apply a 75% to that.

Imaru Casanova - BJM Securities

Analyst · BJM Securities.

75%, okay I was being a little too optimistic. I was applying a higher — okay, I will make that adjustment, thank you. And then the other question I had in looking at your income statement for this quarter, we had a $2.8 million business development expense, is that something that we should expect going forward? It's considerably higher than I was expecting. I'm wondering what's reflected there and whether we should continue to expect that going forward?

Stefan L. Wenger

Analyst · BJM Securities.

Yeah, that' s a good question, Imaru. We had IRC transaction costs that came in, in a large way in this quarter and so that is not something that we would expect to repeat quarter after quarter. There will still be some residual expenses coming in this period, but as you may be aware we have some backstop protection in there with regard to reimbursement of those expenses if indeed we do not go forward with the IRC transaction so that's really the nature of those business development expenses.

Imaru Casanova - BJM Securities

Analyst · BJM Securities.

I see. Okay, I think that's about it for me. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

(Operator's Instructions) Your next question comes from the line of John Tomaso (ph) with John Tomaso Very Independent Research.

John Tomaso - John Tomaso Very Independent Research

Analyst

Thank you very much. Regarding the IRC acquisition, do you have all the people locked up under employment contracts? Do you expect to continue their creative personnel and how much is the business synergy putting the two companies together and just getting rid of duplicative stock registration, et cetera?

Tony Jensen

Management

John, good question. We have not come to definitive terms or final decisions on the people at IRC. We recognize that there certainly is some talent there and I want to keep those cards rather close to my chest at this time, although we've given significant thought to it. Let me not mislead you there. And there is a tremendous amount of synergies just with regard to public accounting, to listings and all of that, and there is duplicative personnel. As you know, it doesn't take a whole lot of expenses to manage a large royalty portfolio so we certainly won't expect to — let me flip it around and say we'd certainly expect to see a much more efficient, on a cost basis, organization going forward.

John Tomaso - John Tomaso Very Independent Research

Analyst

Might that be $5 million, $10 million sort of magnitude?

Tony Jensen

Management

Well, I don't think we have a — Stefan, do you have a number with regard to that? I don't have a number in my mind as to exactly what the additional — I think what you're asking, John, is what additional cost might there be to what we have as a steady-state company?

John Tomaso - John Tomaso Very Independent Research

Analyst

Or I was thinking what savings would be. So what you're saying is that your costs may not change and that the IRC costs might just disappear?

Tony Jensen

Management

Significantly.

John Tomaso - John Tomaso Very Independent Research

Analyst

Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Schopick from Nutmeg Securities. Andrew Schopick – Nutmeg Securities: Stefan, on a different matter, the term loan that's in existence at this time, how much of that do you anticipate utilizing in the current fiscal year and what is the LIBOR rate right now?

Stefan L. Wenger

Analyst

Last I checked 90-day LIBOR was about 25 basis points although I haven't checked the last couple days so someone correct me if I'm off. We would expect to use that new term loan only at the consummation of the IRC deal and we'll use a combination of that and our existing credit line which is $125 million os that gives us $225 million of total debt capacity with respect to closing that transaction. Also it would depend on the elections because if you recall there's a range of cash consideration in the deal. Andrew Schopick – Nutmeg Securities: Yes. And the other question I wanted to ask you is if you could give me just a general rough feel for this is how many fully diluted shares will be outstanding, making some assumption about IRC in the third and fourth fiscal quarters once that transaction's completed? I mean, we have kind of a general sense of how many shares might be involved. How much additional dilution are we going to see here in the share count over the balance of the fiscal year?

Tony Jensen

Management

Currently we have roughly 42.2 million shares outstanding following the Teck transaction. Andrew Schopick – Nutmeg Securities: Is that basic?

Tony Jensen

Management

Yeah, that is everything. Andrew Schopick – Nutmeg Securities: Okay, diluted.

Tony Jensen

Management

And the max share consideration under the IRC deal is 7.5 million shares so that would bring you close to 50 million, about 49.7. Andrew Schopick – Nutmeg Securities: Okay. And that would be reflected more towards the fourth fiscal quarter at that point.

Tony Jensen

Management

In the third and fourth quarters. Andrew Schopick – Nutmeg Securities: Okay. And I think there was one other thing that was on my mind, but it has slipped my mind so I'll have to call back if I need to pursue anything further. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Brian MacArthur with UBS.

Brian MacArthur - UBS

Analyst · UBS.

Good morning. I just wanted to follow up on something you said. You mentioned the second $100 million credit facility would be available for the IRC which I understand, but is that to imply though if you don't do IRC, that $100 million is not available or is conditional on the transaction or are you just getting another $100 million line either way?

Tony Jensen

Management

The purpose of that $100 million line is for the IRC transaction.

Brian MacArthur - UBS

Analyst · UBS.

So if for some reason you don't go ahead and close it, you don't have access for that $100 million to go and do something else?

Tony Jensen

Management

That's correct. We could always look at other opportunities if our credit facilities need to be higher, but the purpose of that $100 million is for the IRC transaction.

Brian MacArthur - UBS

Analyst · UBS.

Great. Thank you very much. I just wanted to clarify that.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to the presenters.

Tony Jensen

Management

Thank you, operator, and thank you for joining us today. We very much appreciate your continued support of Royal Gold and we look forward to continuing to update you on our progress with IRC and also on our financial results on the next quarterly call. Thanks very much.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.