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Ribbon Communications Inc. (RBBN)

Q3 2018 Earnings Call· Tue, Oct 30, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Ribbon Communications Third Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. During the presentation all participants will be in a listen-only mode, afterwards we will conduct a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded on Tuesday, October 30, 2018. I would now like to turn the conference over to Sara Leggat, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, ma’am.

Sara Leggat

Analyst

Good afternoon, and welcome to our third quarter 2018 financial results conference call. On the call with me today, are Fritz Hobbs, President and CEO; and Daryl Raiford, CFO. Today’s press release and presentation have been posted to the Investor Relations section of our website. A recording of this call will be available on our website shortly after the call. I’d like to remind you that during this call, we’ll be making forward-looking statements. Such statements are based on current expectations, forecasts and assumptions regarding the company’s business, financial results, growth and opportunities in the marketplace that include risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the statements discussed today. Any forward-looking statements are qualified in their entirety by cautionary statements contained in the company’s most recent annual report on Form 10-K and its other SEC filings. The company assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking information presented. Unless otherwise indicated, all results discussed are on a non-GAAP basis. Statements about profitability refer to adjusted EBITDA. A reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP results may be found in our press release and within the IR section of our website. And with that, let me turn the call over to Fritz.

Fritz Hobbs

Analyst

Thank you, Sara, and good afternoon to everyone on the call. I’ll give a brief overview of our third quarter 2018 highlights, the status of our integration of Sonus and GENBAND and lastly, an update on our strategic initiatives. I’ll then turn the call over to Daryl, who will discuss in more detail our financial performance this past quarter and our outlook for the full year 2018. I’m very pleased with our third quarter financial results, which validate the momentum we have built. We benefited from solution sales to key customers, both in North America and internationally, demonstrating the depth and breadth of our product offering as well as our extensive global customer base. We’ve remained focused on reducing our cost structure and improving operational efficiencies, which has delivered another quarter of both year-over-year and sequential improvement in our profitability. Ribbon’s third quarter non-GAAP total revenue was $159 million, which included approximately $10 million of revenue from the acquisition of Edgewater that closed in August 2018. Our non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA was $29 million, a 45% increase from the second quarter of 2018. Again, I view these very solid results – these as very solid results, and Daryl will take you through the details in just a moment. Over the last nine months, I’ve addressed what we describe as our one plus four strategy, namely an immediate near-term priority to complete the GENBAND-Sonus integration in order to capture the value of the cost savings within our P&L and our four strategic pillars of, first, investing in our core products; second, leveraging our global scale; third, expanding into adjacent markets; and fourth, M&A opportunities and ecosystem opportunities. Turning to our integration progress. The large bulk of the Sonus-GENBAND integration efforts were completed this summer. We have gained considerable efficiencies and have operationalized…

Daryl Raiford

Analyst

Thanks, Fritz, and hello, everyone. I’m going to review our non-GAAP financial results for the third quarter 2018 and then provide commentary on our outlook for the remainder of the year. The slides within the Investor Relations section of our website have the details regarding our historical financial performance. Our reporting framework is consistent with what we have presented in prior periods. I’d encourage you to access these materials from our website. As a reminder, when I refer to non-GAAP in conjunction with the financial metrics, these financial metrics, these financial metrics exclude the effects of purchase accounting and other items detailed in our earnings materials. Our non-GAAP financial metrics are reconciled for you at the end of today’s press release and our earnings presentation, both of which are available in the Investor Relations section of the website Now turning to the third quarter. Ribbon had strong financial results with higher-than-expected non-GAAP revenue and adjusted EBITDA. Demand for our products exceeded projection, resulting in better revenue linearity over the year than we had originally anticipated. As Fritz mentioned, we successfully completed the acquisition of Edgewater Networks in August. The incremental revenue and earnings post close are included in our consolidated third quarter financial results. I’m going to take time to address both the operating results of Ribbon’s business excluding the effects of Edgewater and our consolidated non-GAAP results including Edgewater so that you can fully appreciate Ribbon’s third quarter performance. Going forward, we do plan to rapidly unify this business in the fourth quarter and won’t report Edgewater separately. Our third quarter 2018 non-GAAP financial results were as follows; total consolidated non-GAAP revenue was $159 million. Edgewater non-GAAP revenue was $10 million. Therefore, Ribbon’s business excluding Edgewater delivered non-GAAP revenue of $149 million, which was an increase of $4 million…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And we have a question from the line of Mike Latimore with Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Mike Latimore

Analyst

Great. Thanks. Excellent quarter there with great results. On the – just wanted to clarify. So Edgewater contributed $10 million to the third quarter, and you’re saying it will contribute $20 million for the year. Is that right?

Daryl Raiford

Analyst

Yes, that’s our current view.

Mike Latimore

Analyst

Okay. I guess, I mean, it contributed $10 million for half a quarter, so what would be the change where it will be $10 million for a full quarter, I guess?

Daryl Raiford

Analyst

Well, there is no sequencing. The Edgewater business, the enterprise business doesn’t experience quite the nonlinearity that the service provider business does. That’s just based on our current view and based on our current view of the American reseller market. We are beginning to invest and taking the products globally through the Ribbon global distribution, but we’re not projecting a great deal of revenue scored in the fourth quarter for that.

Mike Latimore

Analyst

Okay. Got it. And so it sounds like you’re effectively increasing your core revenue guidance by about $10 million or so. Is that right?

Daryl Raiford

Analyst

That is correct. Yes.

Mike Latimore

Analyst

Okay. Great. And on that core business, I mean, do you expect sort of broad-based demand again? That was – it seemed like fairly broad-based in the third quarter. I mean, similar kind of broad-based trends in the fourth quarter?

Daryl Raiford

Analyst

We do. We do. Based on what we’re experiencing in terms of market conditions and, as I said, our opportunity pipeline, we do experience it to be across our solution base and SBC and a relative – reasonably relative percentage of service provider to enterprise mix in the fourth quarter.

Mike Latimore

Analyst

Got it. And then as you sort of integrated the GENBAND acquisition and cut costs, I mean, roughly how much revenue would you say you sort of lost this year by either shutting down projects or discontinuing your product? And then does that normalize again in the first quarter next year?

Daryl Raiford

Analyst

We haven’t really tried to categorize how much revenue that is from a year-over-year basis. We did truly diminish our GENBAND – our former GENBAND legacy SBC sales in terms of trialing the Sonus SBC product. We do see some traction with that, with the trialing. And then as Fritz said in his remarks, we expect some – through mid-2019, some good transitions of large former GENBAND accounts to the SBC 5K product – 5K, 7K product. The – so that’s really where we are on that.

Mike Latimore

Analyst

Got it. And then just last one on the – I think Kandy won a U.S. service provider, I believe, in the third quarter for CPaaS. I guess, is that – what’s the end application look like there? Is the service provider going to offer like an API to developers? Or what’s the kind of end service that the service provider would offer using Kandy?

Daryl Raiford

Analyst

That is correct. That’s exactly – the APIs through the CPaaS platform will be offered to the enterprise customers of the service provider.

Mike Latimore

Analyst

Great. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We have a question from the line of Mark Kelleher with D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Mark Kelleher

Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking the questions, great quarter. Just to go back to some of the timing of the acquisition of Edgewater, is the revenue – what’s the linearity look like in the revenue? Was that linearity skewed toward the back of the quarter?

Daryl Raiford

Analyst

Within – in the typical enterprise business, within the Edgewater business, the linearity within the quarter does have more than half in the latter part of the quarter versus the first half. That appears to be the historical performance of the business.

Mark Kelleher

Analyst

Okay. Great. And then just some clarity on the GENBAND integration project. That seems to be winding down. What’s left there? Is that pretty much complete?

Daryl Raiford

Analyst

As Fritz said, we did. We were very pleased. We did complete the large bulk of our integration activities in the summer. We still have some administrative, legal and tax and infrastructure work to do primarily in our foreign territories. We legally still have two legal companies in various countries across Europe that are in the process with their legal organization of being legally merged and will file final tax returns and wind up things like that along the way through December of next year. That’s just the normal – kind of the normal cycle and timing. But in terms of the large bulk, as we said, of our activities, we’re very pleased that we’ve completed.

Mark Kelleher

Analyst

Okay. And Edgewater side, you had some very good results on the top line. You said it was kind of across all your products. Is there something particular that was going on in the quarter that – or is it just normal variability with the service providers? Or was there some particular product that was doing particularly well in the quarter?

Daryl Raiford

Analyst

Geographically, Q3 had – it had less contributions across the multiple theaters that I mentioned. The customer segmentation was very nicely mixed across the service provider and the SB accounts. And we did – we saw expansion within our client base as well as taking off the new customers, particularly in SBC products. So it was broad – it was broadly based. And it was across, again, the network transformation business, which is a – as a solution is a combination, a various combination of our products, the softswitch, media gateway, application servers and the like, and our SBC products.

Mark Kelleher

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thanks.

Daryl Raiford

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And we have a question from the line of Matthew Galinko with National Securities. Please go ahead.

Matthew Galinko

Analyst

Hey, good afternoon guys. Appreciate you for taking my question. I was hoping you could talk about the pipeline build for Ribbon Protect. It sounds like you’re commercializing it fairly effectively after your SoftBank deal. Just what does that look like going forward, particularly into 2019? I know you’re not guiding to it, just do you see that becoming material? And how do you feel about that product today?

Daryl Raiford

Analyst

Well, right now, clearly, the revenue contribution for Ribbon Protect in the third quarter being $1 million from our one customer is not material. We don’t expect it to reach a material level in the very near term, which we would judge being 5% of our total revenue. We do – we are pleased that we signed our second customer, the large university in the United States. And we are – as Fritz mentioned, we are trialing with a number of customers. We expect that order book to build over time. But again, within the very near term, we would not think that it would reach a level of "materiality" against the consolidated company.

Matthew Galinko

Analyst

Got you. Maybe if I can ask it another way, at what point do you kind of see maybe that business or the software business as a whole kind of paying its way and becoming a contributor on a margin basis?

Daryl Raiford

Analyst

Well, the good news is that, that is a contributor on a margin basis. That’s – all software products, the margins are very sound. There’s not a great deal of future developments that’s necessary to improve that product. And so the product that GA-ed and in the market right now we feel very good about in terms of the contribution. The question really is more around the ability to scale and to increase the volume of that. And we are – It’s still early, and we’re speaking with a number of our customers. We benefit from being an incumbent and having a large installed base with a number of global service providers where this – we believe this product could benefit them and protect them from certain threats that attack the voice network. So while it’s early days, it’s not about the margin as much as it is about volume.

Matthew Galinko

Analyst

Got it. All right. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Let’s have a question from Mike Latimore with Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Mike Latimore

Analyst

A couple other – a quick one here. Can you give any color on the mix within product and SBC versus software gateway, whether SBC was a majority or minority of the product revenue?

Daryl Raiford

Analyst

We don’t really comment in terms of the product mix within the product – within our product revenue itself. I think it’s fair to say, though, that SBC was not a majority of our $78 million of product revenue in the quarter.

Mike Latimore

Analyst

Okay. And then on the recent Optus announcement, it looks like they’re using Kandy for kind of a mobile unified communication service for small business, I believe. Can you mention like who the competition was on that?

Daryl Raiford

Analyst

There was no competition. We enjoy – and we did have a press announcement, I guess, to say we’re very pleased with that. The Optus is a long-established customer with a treasured relationship here at Ribbon. We’re thrilled that we’re able to provide the Kandy product to them. They’re undertaking a very interesting initiative with their Optus Loop Live. We think that, that has some ability to replicate and move to other customers and other service providers in that – with similar need. So we’ll be looking to explore that. But in terms of what Optus is doing with the Optblue product and our underpinning and empowering it, we’re just very delighted on that.

Mike Latimore

Analyst

And just lastly, Microsoft Teams, can you maybe just give a little color on whether that’s driving your enterprise business? And is that something that’s a good sort of tailwind for you guys? Or is it sort of status quo?

Daryl Raiford

Analyst

So we are – we remain one of two in terms of Microsoft Teams, and there is some – the demand profile for SBCs in that space is moving along as we would have expected six months ago. We are very happy that – when Fritz cited the two large U.S.-based global banks taking on the enterprise SBC products to expand the capabilities of their call center applications. That’s in conjunction with Microsoft Teams, and we’re very happy about that relationship, that ecosystem connection with the Teams product.

Mike Latimore

Analyst

Great. Thanks a lot.

Daryl Raiford

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

I believe that that’s all the time we have for questions. I’ll now turn the call over to the speakers for their closing remarks or presentation.

Daryl Raiford

Analyst

Well, thank you, everyone, for your attention to Ribbon’s third quarter conference call. We do look forward to speaking with you again in the – with the conclusion of the fourth quarter. We’ll be back with you in February. Thank you again.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes the call for today. We thank you for your participation and ask that you please disconnect your lines.