Todd A. Abbott
Analyst · Jefferies & Company
Yes, sure. So this is Todd. Let me just kind of take you through in the order that you gave it. So from a service provider standpoint, we see continued growth from an interconnect standpoint. SIP traffic across the interconnect is continuing to grow, and as more and more SIP trunking is deployed and the beginning of cloud services is deployed, it's just going to continue to drive increasing capacity requirements for the interconnect. So we've got a nice funnel of interconnect, and a lot of our international growth and new customer growth is coming from new interconnect customers. So interconnect continues to be the primary source of SIP trunking. It is also a continuing, or I guess I should say, is continuing to grow as a market, and we're participating in that. We're still very early from a penetration standpoint, still about 12% in the U.S. and less than 5% in Europe and even less in Asia. We're excited that we're seeing some markets now beginning to adopt SIP trunking. As an example, we now see the beginnings of movement in Japan, where a year ago, there was really no movement of enterprise SIP trunking. So as that market continues to grow, there's going to be opportunities -- or develop, I should say, there's going to be opportunities to compete for the access side of SIP trunking. And as they continue to grow, it's going to just continue to drive more and more demand on the interconnect side. So we see good solid growth coming from the SBC side from those primary 2 sources, as well as partnerships with those cloud providers selling into the SME space for our big drivers of SIP trunking. On the enterprise side, we are now through the launch of our product and the launch of our channel, the integration of NET. So we enter this year with a full year of opportunity to go and compete and grow our enterprise business. The 5000 really just started to ship in late July, so we didn't have a full year of activity to bring that product into the market, and our channel really started to come online from a recruiting standpoint in Q4. So we have the advantage of starting now to gain some share in some spaces where, 12 months ago, we weren't really able to effectively compete. So the enterprise -- well 5000, as well as with the link deployments of the NET base, that gives us a great platform to be able to drive some significant growth in the enterprise.
James M. Kisner - Jefferies & Company, Inc., Research Division: Would you say perhaps that one is growing faster than the other this year in terms of your expectations?