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Rand Capital Corporation (RAND)

Q3 2019 Earnings Call· Sun, Nov 10, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Rand Capital Corporation Third Quarter 2019 Financial Results. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host Deborah Pawlowski, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Deborah Pawlowski

Analyst

Thanks, Hector, and good afternoon, everyone. We appreciate your time today for Rand's third quarter 2019 financial results conference call. On the line with me today are Pete Grum, our Chief Executive Officer; and Dan Penberthy, our Executive Vice President and CFO. You should have a copy of the release that crossed the wire this morning, as well as the slides that will accompany our conversation today. If not they are both available on our website at randcapital.com. If you would turn to the slide deck on slide 2, I will point out some important information. As you are likely aware, we may make some forward-looking statements during this presentation and also during the question-and-answer session. These statements apply to future events that are subject to risks and uncertainties as well as other factors that could cause actual results to differ from where we are today. These risks and uncertainties and other factors are provided in the earnings release as well as in other documents filed by the Company with the Securities and Exchange Commission. You can find the information on our website or at sec.gov. With that, let me turn over to Pete, who is going to first give us an update on the status of the transactions with East Asset Management and then summarize the quarter. Dan will follow with more details regarding financials. Pete?

Pete Grum

Analyst

Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for your time today. We are happy to have this opportunity to update you on Rand's third quarter, including the status of the transactions with East Asset Management, which ongoing I will refer to as East. If you could all turn to slide 3, and the status of the transaction with East. I'm pleased to announce that we are planning to close on the transactions in November. The closing of this transformational transaction culminates in practically two years of work. We will issue approximately 8.3 million of Rand shares to East in exchange for $25 million of assets. That amounts to $3 per share, which represents a 33% premium over the stock price on January 24, the day before we announced these exciting transactions. The $25 million, we now believe will consist of approximately $10 million of investment and about $15 million in cash. However, we continue to finalize our legal due diligence on the portfolio of securities, which may affect the final amount of the cash and securities received. The total, however, will not change, and it will be $25 million. The investment assets that we will receive will be added to our portfolio and the cash will be used for investing and other corporate purposes. We will also receive the ongoing cash flow on the investments. We have established Rand Capital Management or RCM. The current employees will become employees of RCM and the new entity will serve as the external registered investment advisor to Rand. Upon the completion of these transactions and subject to Board approval, we will then proceed with the steps necessary to transform Rand into a regulated investment company or R-I-C or RIC. Recall that one of the benefits of being a RIC is that our investment income and…

Dan Penberthy

Analyst

Thanks Pete and good afternoon everyone. If you could please turn to slide 11, I will start with the net asset value per share or NAV. As Pete mentioned, we finished the quarter with net asset value at $4.39 per share. As you can see in the chart NAV decreased $0.46 per share over the trailing quarter. This decrease primarily resulted from unrealized valuation adjustments which we recorded on 5 of our portfolio companies this quarter; that is in accordance with our valuation policy. You recall this sometimes results in appreciation or depreciation in fair value based on the operating performance, the trends of particular portfolio companies or capital transactions that they may be involved with. During the quarter, we recognized net reductions in fair value amounting to about $0.45 per share. On slide 12 is a summary of our operating performance for the third quarters of 2019 and 2018 and also for the year-to-date for both periods. Our third-quarter investment income of $437,000 is down $225,000 as compared with last year. This reduction is mostly due to a $233,000 of nonrecurring interest and a debt modification fee that we received in last year's third quarter. On a year-to-date basis, investment income is up $301,000 or 21%. Our third-quarter expenses of $531,000 were up $83,000 over last year. The increase was primarily due to higher expenses related to the East transaction, as well as interest expense on the higher outstanding debt. As I mentioned in the prior slide, we recorded unrealized losses on certain investments in accordance with our valuation policy. This did include Rheonix, Genicon, Empire Genomics, KnowledgeVision and SciAps all of which were in the third quarter of this year. The net impact was about $2.5 million more in the 2019 third quarter than the same period of last year and $2.3 million net on a year-to-date basis. To summarize, the 2019 third quarter resulted in a decrease in net assets from operations of $0.46 per share compared with a $0.03 per share decrease in the 2018 third quarter. As you could see on slide 13, we continue to have a solid balance sheet. We have a historically high level of cash, representing $1.47 per share. Our portfolio investments are valued at $4.24 per share at the end of the quarter and we had $1.74 per share that we continue to owe to the SBA. This is consistent with the end of the last quarter. We also have $0.42 per share of other assets net of liabilities. This all comprises our NAV per share of $4.39. So with that, Pete shall we open up the line for questions?

Pete Grum

Analyst

Yes we are ready for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Sam Rebotsky SER Asset Management. Please proceed with your question.

Sam Rebotsky

Analyst

Good afternoon Pete and Dan. The transaction with scheduled East is that supposed to close in two weeks? And the distribution -- where it says requires distribution of accumulated excess $17 million subject to change. Does that mean you will close on the transaction in November and distribute the cash or -- and is it cash and stock or -- and if it's stock what is the price of the stock of the distribution? Could you sort of put some color to how this transaction goes forward in order for you to go like you indicated? You want the Company to be able to make money and make dividends to shareholders?

Pete Grum

Analyst

Sure. We anticipate that the deal will close in November and that's what we are working toward. This is all subject to the Board approving. But to become a RIC, we have to distribute our excess profits. Right now, I would estimate that is about $17 million. It's an IRS election and that happens on the day that we make the election. So I can't give you a number right now. We anticipate that the special dividend will be paid out assuming everything goes like we are planning in the first quarter. And…

Sam Rebotsky

Analyst

So that will be distributed in the March quarter?

Pete Grum

Analyst

The first quarter of 2020. And remember I am using the word anticipate and intend. The real details of all of that and the percentage of cash and stock is in the proxy. I can certainly talk to you off-line and go through it. It's going to be, I believe 80% stock, 20% cash and the stock is distributed with a value of the current book value at the time of the distribution.

Sam Rebotsky

Analyst

So in other words instead of $3 per share, you are using the book value which will be higher than the $3 per share which is what the East company came in at?

Pete Grum

Analyst

Yes. That is correct.

Sam Rebotsky

Analyst

Okay. And at this time the $17 million is equivalent to $1.50? Or what is the number? If you did $17 million what is the number of shares outstanding and what is…

Pete Grum

Analyst

I don't have -- what I'm supposed to have, but it is less than that. Deb is going to do the math. I'm estimating $1.45.

Dan Penberthy

Analyst

Well Sam if you just want to do a back-of-the-envelope test we have 6.3 million shares outstanding. We are adding 8.3 million shares so that totals 14.6 million shares. Just back-of-the-envelope test and you can do the math from there.

Sam Rebotsky

Analyst

Okay, okay. So that is the plan. And you had indicated that the Board of Directors and various other insiders they will take stock and not the cash. So there will be -- and at this point, when you make that distribution and you will have less equity per share has there been some thought -- well if you reduce the price and with the stock right now trading $2.60, $2.70 that would take about $1.40 off the stock. Do you do a reverse split or what do you do?

Pete Grum

Analyst

That's certainly something that the Board is evaluating. And we have not come to a conclusion on that but the Board has had robust discussions about that. And as you can see the Board also authorized repurchasing another 1 million shares, an additional 1 million shares. And one of the gating factors of that in the past has been cash. And we will have a significant amount of cash at the parent able to do that. Now I can't promise when and where and how, but the kind of corporate governance surrounding repurchasing shares in a reverse split are under active discussion.

Sam Robosky

Analyst

But you have approval from SBLIC to buy cash in the open market where you didn't seem to have approval before. At least that's what I understood.

Pete Grum

Analyst

The money to buy shares back has been and always will be with cash at the parent. The SBIC does not buy shares back. It is a fully owned subsidiary of the parent. The parent will now have a substantial amount of cash because of the East transaction. And that is part of the reason the Board increased and reauthorized the repurchase.

Sam Robosky

Analyst

Okay. And further the date of the dividend they will be paid in the first quarter what's your expectation? The stock -- it'll be -- so the first quarter you will have the date of the entitlement would be also sometime in the first quarter? Or will be in this current quarter?

Pete Grum

Analyst

I want to make sure. Are you talking about when the dividend will be paid out?

Sam Robosky

Analyst

No, you said the dividend will be paid out in the first quarter of the next year. What I am asking is the entitlement to the dividend what will be the entitlement to the dividend of the shareholders? What date are we…

Pete Grum

Analyst

Are you talking about what the record date would be?

Sam Robosky

Analyst

Yes, yes. Correct.

Pete Grum

Analyst

We have not established that yet.

Sam Robosky

Analyst

But do you expect it to be in the current year or the next year?

Pete Grum

Analyst

I'm not able to answer that right now.

Sam Robosky

Analyst

Okay, you haven't decided -- they haven't decided. But it won't be paid out until the first quarter of the next year. Would it be towards the beginning or the end or is there any thought there?

Pete Grum

Analyst

We haven't gotten there. By the way Sam, I want to make sure you understand: these are my expectations.

Sam Robosky

Analyst

Right, right.

Pete Grum

Analyst

As we go forward.

Sam Robosky

Analyst

Okay. Well I mean it's a new ballgame and the question is it changes the rules et cetera. And I want to try to understand where we are going et cetera. All right.. Well look

Pete Grum

Analyst

No, I think your questions are right on. We are thrilled and excited. The last two years have not been all up and down, but we have had some good days and we are at the end Sam. And you and I have talked for many years about changing Rand. And this is truly transformational and I think it's going to be great for Rand going forward. It will be a much different company; the tone will be different.

Sam Robosky

Analyst

I hope it does. But unfortunately you have to compete against much larger vehicles in this kind of a structure. And you have to sort of bulk up and it's a different ballgame and hopefully you are successful. All right I will give a chance to some other people to ask some questions. Thank you. Hopefully…

Pete Grum

Analyst

Feel free to call me if you .

Sam Robosky

Analyst

Sure, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Robert McCabe with E.W.M. Investments. Please proceed with your question

Robert McCabe

Analyst · E.W.M. Investments. Please proceed with your question

What do you anticipate the dividend will the cash dividend will be?

Pete Grum

Analyst · E.W.M. Investments. Please proceed with your question

It will be determined on the day that we do the tax election. As we said it is right now a distribution of $17 million and that is based on the end of this quarter. So I can't predict what is going to happen on values between now and the end of the quarter, but as of now it's $17 million. And I believe that 20% will be cash and 80% will be stock.

Robert McCabe

Analyst · E.W.M. Investments. Please proceed with your question

So what will that work out to be per share?

Pete Grum

Analyst · E.W.M. Investments. Please proceed with your question

It's about $1.45 in total. So 20% is $0.29 and

Deborah Pawlowski

Analyst · E.W.M. Investments. Please proceed with your question

It's between $1.15, $1.20-ish within the standard number of shares at $17 million and roughly 20% of that would be cash. So if you just use the midpoint of let's just say $1.15 so you are looking at $0.25 per share.

Pete Grum

Analyst · E.W.M. Investments. Please proceed with your question

I would be happy. If you want to call me after the meeting I will get my calculator out..

Deborah Pawlowski

Analyst · E.W.M. Investments. Please proceed with your question

But what you have to understand is this is all just estimates right now. It is subject to what the determination is of the accumulated earnings and profits at the time that the declaration to become a RIC is made. So it is a moving target at this point right now. So plus or minus. Robert, are you there?

Pete Grum

Analyst · E.W.M. Investments. Please proceed with your question

Any one there?

Operator

Operator

Hey, Robert McCabe, your line is still alive.

Robert McCabe

Analyst

Well, you are just dealing with approximations. But when do you expect this valuation to occur?

Pete Grum

Analyst

It will occur when we do the tax filing. If I had to guess and this is a guess and it subject to Board approval the determination will be January 1.

Robert McCabe

Analyst

Do you have to have stockholder approval?

Pete Grum

Analyst

No.

Dan Penberthy

Analyst

We do not. There is some complex tax regulations which we need to have our respective entities comply with. And we are going through that now with a multitude of consultants and tax advisors trying to make sure that these entities do satisfy the RIC the regulated investment company regulation. Because if they do not then we have no ability to proceed down this path which we have been going on of future dividends and making the distribution. So the first thing we need to do is get the transaction closed with East. The next step will be to finalize all these tax elections and get all our the two respective entities both Rand the parent and Rand the SBIC separately qualified under RIC tax regulation, which we really need another 45 days to get done. And then that will start the ball rolling for all the other things that Pete has explained.

Robert McCabe

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. And I'd like to turn the call back to management for closing remarks.

Pete Grum

Analyst

Thank you. Thanks for the questions. We are always available, if you want to give us a call if we didn't answer them correctly or if something comes up. So I want to thank you for your time and attention this afternoon. I want to say again on behalf of management and the Board of Directors we appreciate your support and we are very excited about moving forward following the closing of the East transaction. This is a transformational transaction. We look forward to updating you as we progress towards achieving RIC status and the anticipated special dividend and the ongoing dividends. Thanks again and have a great day.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.