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Q2 2017 Earnings Call· Wed, Aug 9, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to QuickLogic Corporation's Second Quarter 2017 Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Today's conference call is being recorded. At this time, for opening remarks and introductions, I would like to turn the call over to the company's Investor Relations representative Ms. Kirsten Chapman of LHA. Ms. Chapman, please go ahead.

Kirsten Chapman

Analyst

Thank you, Letiffe. Welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for QuickLogic's Second Quarter 2017 Results Conference Call. With us today are Brian Faith, President and CEO, and Dr. Sue Cheung, CFO and Vice President of Finance. Before we begin, I will read a short safe harbor statement. Some of the comments QuickLogic makes today are forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties, including but not limited to stated expectations relating to revenue from new and mature products, statements pertaining to QuickLogic's future stock performance, design activity and its ability to convert new design opportunities into production shipments; timing and market acceptance of its customers' products; our future evaluation systems; broadening our ecosystem partners, expected results and financial expectations for revenue, gross margin, operating expenses, profitability and cash. These statements should be considered in conjunction with the cautionary warnings that appear in QuickLogic's SEC filings. For additional information, please refer to the company's SEC filings posted on its website. Investors are cautioned that all forward-looking statements in this call involve risks and uncertainties and that future events may differ materially from the statements made. These forward-looking statements are made as of today, the day of the conference call, and management undertakes no obligation to revise or publicly release any revisions of forward-looking statements in light of any new information or future events. The conference call is open to all and is being webcast live. We will start today's call with the company's strategic update from QuickLogic CEO, Brian Faith. And then CFO, Sue Cheung will provide financial results and guidance. Brian will deliver closing remarks and open the call to questions. At this time, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to Brian Faith, President and CEO. Please go ahead, sir.

Brian Faith

Analyst

Thank you, Kirsten, and thank you all for joining our Q2 2017 conference call. We have made significant progress since our last conference call. This includes an increase in the quantity of new engagements, notable improvements in the efficiency of our engagement process, and the number of engagements we have converted to design wins. We have also received anticipated production start dates for a number of these design wins and late-stage engagements. With this momentum, we are well positioned to initiate sustainable growth starting with Q4, 2017 and achieve our target operating model in 2018. However, key designs that we anticipated fueling our targeted 50% growth this year have been shifted one to two quarters forward and that has lowered our outlook for Q3 and Q4, 2017. While reducing our outlook for 2017 is clearly disappointing, our growth drivers are intact and our design win momentum has improved significantly during the last quarter. I think this momentum will continue to build and look forward to sharing with you today why I'm more optimistic than ever in the future of QuickLogic and why I believe so strongly we are well positioned to deliver sustainable revenue growth beginning next quarter. Let's start today with an update on our embedded FPGA IP business. To briefly recap, our IP business model has two licensing elements. The first element involves licensing semiconductor foundry partners to manufacture ICs that include our IP. The second element involves licensing semiconductor companies and OEMs that design the ICs incorporating our IP. In the case of semiconductor companies and OEMs, licenses are negotiated for each specific IC that includes our IP. In addition to the license fee, semiconductor companies and OEMs will also pay a royalty for each IC that is shipped to end customers, or in the case of…

Sue Cheung

Analyst

Thank you, Brian. Good afternoon and thanks to everyone for joining us today. Please note that we are reporting our non-GAAP results here. You may refer to the press release we issued today for a detailed reconciliation of our GAAP to non-GAAP results and other financial statements. We have also posted an updated financial table on our IR web page that provides current and historical non-GAAP data. For the second quarter of 2017, total revenue was $3 million, within our total revenue guidance range. Our new product revenue was $1.5 million, and mature product revenue was $1.5 million. New product revenue was at the lower end of the guidance range due to lower than anticipated shipments of display bridge and connectivity solutions. New product revenue contributed 49% of the total revenue, compared to 60% in Q1 2017 and 44% in Q2 2016. Samsung accounted for 21% of the total revenue during the second quarter, compared to 22% during the previous quarter. This reflects the seasonality of the consumer tablet market and the expanding customer base for our display bridge solutions. Our Q2, 2017 gross margin was 46%, compared to 44% in Q1 2017. The higher gross margin was driven by an increase in eFPGA license revenue recognized in the quarter, our product mix and a broader customer base for display bridge solutions. Operating expenses for Q2, 2017 totaled $4.6 million, which was flat sequentially and 17% lower year-over-year. This reflects the cost reductions associated with the strategic realignment that we initiated in the second half of last year. Q2 2017 SG&A expenses were $2.4 million due to our increased sensor processing-related sales and marketing efforts. Our Q2 2017 R&D expenses were $2.2 million, reflecting the shift in R&D resources to our India location. The total for other income, expense and…

Brian Faith

Analyst

Thank you, Sue. With our new software evaluation and development tools in place, we have accelerated and lowered the cost of our engagement process. This has also resulted in more efficient conversion from engagement to design win. We believe this will enable us to drive sustainable revenue growth beginning in Q4 and realize our growth and profitability targets in 2018. Also driving this momentum is the fact a voice interface is rapidly becoming a check box requirement for new designs; particularly in wearable, hearable and IoT applications. As it stands today, our EOS S3 is the only MCU-based solution in the market that includes a hardware integrated Low Power Sound Detection, and with that, it consumes far less power than other MCU-based devices when used for voice detection and processing. Some of the customers that were originally attracted to EOS S3 often select it as the host processor and are increasingly utilizing other platform resources too. In addition to increasing our number of engagements, and in some cases with very large potential customers, these trends have also led to a meaningful increase in average selling prices. In summary, we are uniquely positioned with the right solutions, ideal market trends and customer engagements. Our growth drivers are solidly intact and the overarching trends driving our business and our ability to win meaningful designs have improved for the long term. Between that, and the higher forecasts we're now seeing from research companies, I'm very optimistic we will begin delivering sustainable growth starting in Q4 of 2017. With this, I would now like to open the call for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Richard Shannon of Craig-Hallum.

Richard Shannon

Analyst

Brian, I appreciate all the great detail here on both the sensor hub side and the embedded FPGA side, great to hear all that. Maybe I'll delve into a couple of different topics here. I think a lot of people are probably wondering with a lot of the activity that's starting in the fourth quarter, some of the activities started in the fourth quarter, is there any way people can think about what kind of revenue level we can, what you might approach, what might be a minimum level. It's hard to scale some of these opportunities you're referring to, so wondering if you can give us a little bit of help on what you're thinking there.

Brian Faith

Analyst

Yeah. I can do that, Richard. So firstly, these first design wins that we did announce beyond the tier 1 smartphone OEM during the wearable, these are ODMs, and so the revenue they're going to generate is largely driven from the end customers that they get signed up. I know that they are planning to show these products around the October timeframe at some shows in Asia and so depending on how successful they are, these could be hundreds of thousands of units and with the ASP increases that we're seeing, that could be meaningful in terms of revenue. I think the biggest driver here for Q4, for us, is going to be this tier 1 smartphone OEM that launches the wearable and when they launch and the slope of that curve is going to be the main driver. So we're comfortable saying that Q4 will be the point in which we're starting that revenue growth. I'm not comfortable going so far and actually telling a number on this call, just because that would be based on some speculation at this point.

Richard Shannon

Analyst

I know you started this topic a bit on last quarter's call, but I'm wondering if you could expand on your - or go into your latest thoughts here and that's regarding the kind of category of opportunities. Clearly, smartphones are a very high volume category and then obviously, wearables are as well, you were talking more about hearables in the last several months here. Sounds like some of the exciting designs that you have here as much in hearables as anything. I'm wondering if you could give us a sense of how you see the opportunity set for hearables, maybe thinking about what the split of business might be well into next year wearables versus hearables and phones?

Brian Faith

Analyst

Sure. So firstly, I will make some speculation here that at the next CES, we're going to see a big movement of this immersive user experience from our wrist to our head and I think that's going to be driven from the fact that we're seeing so much of the activity around hearables in the space. I think just within the last quarter - we're over double digit opportunities now just in hearables. So I think everybody is seeing that there's an opportunity here to leverage these digital AI assistants, move it to be here and the unique thing about hearables is that the batteries are even smaller than wearables that are on the wrist and so that really drives home, people have to look for low power solutions and if they're wanting to have it be a more immersive experience, they're going to be adding sensors like microphones and MEMS sensors for motion and things like that. So they're trying to cram a lot of functionality in to these devices for differentiation for connection to the cloud and so power is of paramount importance and the traditional approaches to these is just use a Bluetooth chip, but these Bluetooth chips were not really designed for interacting with always on use cases. They were really designed around listening to music and speaking to your device, your phone. Now that people are adding step counters and pedometer and turning the microphones on all the time, they are definitely looking for low power solutions and so that's what's really caused people to call us and ask about these types of products. Now your other question I think was related to what the volume or mix would be like next year? I think right now again speculation, but CES is probably going to see a lot of these devices on your head. I think we're seeing more design starts now for hearables than for the wrist worn wearables and I think it is because it does change the user experience pretty significantly for the consumer. So I don't know the exact volume, but I can definitely say that from a design start point of view, we see more activity in hearables and wearables right now. And I wouldn't be surprised if people were underestimating the size of the hearable market next year.

Richard Shannon

Analyst

One question for me on the embedded FPGA side, Brian, I think the phrase you used was you fully believe that you are going to have one to several customers, not foundries, but semiconductor companies and OEMs signed up this year, anyway you can help us understand what several means and can you remind us what kind of revenue opportunity exists when signing up each of these. I know they're recognized over time, but what's the cash inflow that you would expect on each one of those?

Brian Faith

Analyst

Sure. So historically, we've used the word several to mean more than - like three or more. So I'll be consistent with that and we do have the sales engagement funnel to support those numbers. From a dollar point of view, it depends on the type of deal that we actually do sign with one of these folks. We've talked about different models of engagement where people would use embedded FPGA more as an internal tool that they don't open up to the outside world or they could actually open up the FPGA and market it as a device with integrated FPGA to target FPGA designers out in the market. So I think the range for pricing on that would be somewhere between under $0.5 million to a seven digit number, depending on how far out they want to take the technology and that will vary also by process node, a more advanced process node like 22FDX is going to have a bigger price tag than a more mature node like 65 nanometer.

Richard Shannon

Analyst

Okay. And Brian, can you remind us these timeframes you talked about specifically this year and obviously time is an element of that, are these time frames under your control or mostly under your customers?

Brian Faith

Analyst

Right now, they're going to be under the customers' control. They're evaluating with our software tools that we've released, they're pretty rigorous about evaluating any new kind of IP. They exercise it with multiple designs to see how big the power, the performance, the cost and then they make decisions. So it's really driven from their IP group getting comfortable with the IP and then it's written from the product side on when they're actually scheduling their own tape outs and their own development plans.

Richard Shannon

Analyst

Maybe a couple of quick financial related questions and I'll jump out of the queue. In your guidance about growth for this year, about 50% and getting to operating profitability that obviously clearly implies, you think you've got a revenue funnel that gets you to breakeven, just want to verify that that's accurate and can you remind us what your revenue breakeven level per quarter is?

Sue Cheung

Analyst

Hi, Richard. Our breakeven revenue level stays as we said before, 8 million to 10 million, it was before 9 million to 11 million. Now, we have lowered a bit because of our IP license revenue that carries very high margin, almost 100% margin. So any of that public revenue coming in the quarter, that of course the revenue level for breakeven will be lower. Of course, based on the 45% to 50% gross margin.

Brian Faith

Analyst

And then your other question was, do we have the funnel to support that and we do have the funnel to support that.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Gary Mobley of Benchmark, your line is open.

Gary Mobley

Analyst

I wanted to ask about your comment about higher than expected ASP for some of these EOS design wins, I'm presuming the die hasn't changed at all. It's - the higher ASP might be a function of what more embedded algorithms which is coming from your partners and does that mean higher split or higher payment outgoing on the royalty front?

Brian Faith

Analyst

Yes. So first of all, yes, it's the same die. We're not changing the die. So any of these variations that we're talking about by addressing different use cases or segments or customers is all software and how we program the embedded FPGA on the die, same die. So the other part of that is ASP is, we believe very firmly in value-based pricing not cost-based pricing. So whereas the die is the same, the value will be different depending on the customer's use cases. So, if power consumption is absolutely critical and they need every little microamps that we can save, our value will be higher and therefore our price will be higher. If it's a fight with another MCU guy and they don't really care about power, then the price will generally be lower. So I think what we're seeing is sort of validation of the fact that a lot of these smaller battery products really value battery life and they value the integration that we can offer and we can get rewarded for that by having higher ASPs. There is the fact that we can in certain cases bundle software and get paid for that and also get a higher gross margin for that. But I think it's really the first reason I articulated this, the primary driver for the increased selling prices.

Gary Mobley

Analyst

Just to clarify something on the eFPGA front, you mentioned your test chip was taped out at SMIC 40-nanometer in the just completed second quarter. So I'm assuming that's the first opportunity to go to customers with respect to licensing, right?

Brian Faith

Analyst

So we've actually been engaged already with what we've already been running as production devices with our own chips with 65-nanometer and 40-nanometer GLOBALFOUNDRIES. We have 65 nanometer TSMC already in production by virtue of having our own devices there. And then the 22 nanometer is in development, it's going to tape out in Q4 and we'll have verified production for the test chip validation in Q1 of '18. For the 40 nanometer SMIC, it's taped out, but to be clear it's also back and we're going to the verification now and we expect to complete that this quarter. So it doesn't inhibit us from actually doing the selling process ahead of having the test chip back. But having the test chip back and qualified gives people the comfort and reduces the risk in their mind of something going wrong with the IP at some point. So it's not only about the sales engagement, but it would definitely I think accelerate actually ones that's actually done because then I think you'll see SMIC actually promoting this a little bit more aggressive to their customers after they've also seen it working in boards.

Gary Mobley

Analyst

Based on the customer profile for all these different nodes and processes like GLOBALFOUNDRIES and SMIC, what would you expect in terms of licensee profile or end use cases for the licensees? And as a follow-up to that, I think you mentioned pennies of additional variable cost for licensee utilizing your embedded FPGA. Is that to assume that royalties on the tail-end of these relationships is $0.02 to $0.03 per unit?

Brian Faith

Analyst

Okay, few different questions there. I'll answer the last one first. For the royalty, when we're talking about few cents of variable cost, we're talking about the incremental cost at the silicon level that they're going to be for manufacturing. The royalties are going to be different in that as a percent of the ASP and I'm hopeful that royalties will actually be higher than the incremental silicon cost. I think that will be the case. Now getting back to your other question, can you repeat it, actually the first part of your question?

Gary Mobley

Analyst

No problem. The type to licensees that you would expect just based on the different foundry processes?

Brian Faith

Analyst

So basically, if you look at where we've historically sold our own devices, the programming logic was optimized for lower power microcontroller type use cases. So I think that that will be the one that's mostly aligned out there with the potential licensees, so microcontroller based devices. Moving forward, we do see some standard product companies that are not microcontrollers, they're more purposeful for certain applications, there's interest there. And that could be sort of a follow-on wave. And then ultimately I think you'll start to see us getting into more of the compute intensive applications as a roadmap item. But for the near term, I think it's going to be microcontroller-based devices. I hesitate to articulate any use cases on the call because anything I say here can be learned by our competitors and I'd like to keep that close to the vest until we can have some public announcement to the customers.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Suji Desilva of Roth Capital, your question please.

Suji Desilva

Analyst

The gross margin guidance you gave, the range there, can you talk about what would drive the high versus the low end of the range in 3Q. It was a pretty wide range 3% plus or minus.

Sue Cheung

Analyst

Hi Suji. So this is actually conservative. We factor in both product mix in Q3 and also the potential license revenue that we can [ph] recognize in the quarter.

Suji Desilva

Analyst

And then for the embedded FPGA, Brian or Sue, do you expect the revenues to be relatively steady given that ratable nature of the recognition or would it be lumpy where some quarters might zero out and then comeback. Just trying to figure out how the next few quarter where embedded FPGA layer in.

Brian Faith

Analyst

So once they're assigned, it they will be consistent for that opportunity. And I think like any new business that we're starting, the timing of signing these deals will make it somewhat lumpy in the very beginning depending on how many we are signing. But once they are signed it will be consistent across those quarters until the term of the agreement is over. So, like for example for Q3, we're not sure yet because of the potential to sign new within the quarter versus not. And like Sue said that's what's driving the variance in the gross margin.

Suji Desilva

Analyst

Go ahead Sue.

Sue Cheung

Analyst

Suji just on the side notes, for the terms of the license agreement could range from six months to 24 months. So it depends on the customer. What type of term we negotiate and that would determine in recognizing the revenue on our P&L.

Suji Desilva

Analyst

And that will be the ratable term six months versus 24 months.

Sue Cheung

Analyst

Exactly.

Suji Desilva

Analyst

And then on the cost side, the test chips, Brian, are these - or Sue, are these material to you guys, are you sharing in that cost with the foundries as you bring these market - that's not market, but the test chip rather?

Brian Faith

Analyst

So I think that we are getting these subsidized by the foundries, which I think speaks to the fact that they really value the potential of having embedded FPGA on their IP line card or at least there's an option for their customers to use. So at this point it's not a significant impact for us. There is work to create the test chip, but the actual cost of manufacturing the test chip is largely subsidized to these agreements that we have.

Suji Desilva

Analyst

And the last question on the China fab with semi landscape, you guys seem to be doing well there. Can you talk about the [indiscernible] presence there and if you could kind of handicap whether your Cywee relationships or your SMIC relationships which one do you think is the more potent opportunity relatively.

Brian Faith

Analyst

Wow, it's okay, I'm saying wow because Cywee is really for the SoC business and then SMIC is primarily for eFPGA business. So, the work with SMIC is definitely a driver for that because as you know China is very aggressive into getting into all thing semiconductor including programmable logic and so there's a big attention on that and the fact that we're the only FPGA that's currently in SMIC I think we're going to get a lot of nice attention from them on that. Cywee, we do do joint visits and account calls with them, so we have a very productive relationship with them. But I guess from a topline point of view the biggest driver if I had to pick between those two would be SMIC and eFPGA. Cywee definitely helps, but a lot of the larger customers are using their own algorithms now. And so it's not going to be a primary driver for us on the SoC side to be sort of captive to Cywee.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Rick Neaton of Rivershore Investment, your question please.

Rick Neaton

Analyst

Can you provide some additional color on what is comprised the inventory increase from the end of Q3 last year until the end of Q2 this year? Is it mostly S3, all S3?

Sue Cheung

Analyst

I can address that question, Rick. For the first half of this year, the majority inventory ramp here is three inventory. If you target from last year, the second half of last year and until even this quarter, we continuously ramp up inventory for display bridge solution, once we get appeal or forecast from customers we'll start ramping up inventory.

Rick Neaton

Analyst

Brian, you talked about these new markets for discrete sensor hubs beginning to appear and used the forecast I think of 680 million units next year. Do you have - with only one-third of them being in consumer devices, do you have other things in mind to help QuickLogic gain meaningful share in those new markets?

Brian Faith

Analyst

As far as use cases go?

Rick Neaton

Analyst

Yes.

Brian Faith

Analyst

We are seeing voice actually permitted even beyond the consumer space into the industrial area and we've had people asking us even more about military stuff now whether army, soldiers or not soldiers necessarily, but emergency medical folks with voice enabled devices that are battery powered and have to be reliable and need to be hands free. So a lot of it is leveraging with same use cases we've already developed for. One of the things I didn't really go into lot of details on the call but I guess is worth mentioning here is that from a software point of view we've really been focusing on building out this open framework. And the value of the open framework is that we don't actually care what people run in terms of software on a device, they can do it themselves. And by having this open framework there it means that we can actually turn that over to customer and there's going to be very little support. So we don't actually have to build out the entire stack of use cases for them. But if they value the low power, they value the flexibility and they can go out and do their own thing. And so I think that those are some of the areas of opportunity we see in these other segments where we don't have to do as much work as we've done vertically integrating solutions on S3 today.

Rick Neaton

Analyst

With regard to the Chinese ODM design wins that you have. What's the typical number of OEM customers that these ODMs get for a platform like the S3.

Brian Faith

Analyst

From them I've heard anywhere from the range of like five to ten per platform. And then they'll go and spend, and do something else.

Rick Neaton

Analyst

And with regard to your engagement at the tier-1 smartphone OEM that you said had projected production dates for next year. Do you have any more confidence that the current projected production dates for these devices should you win the design slots would be any more reliable than the wearable that's having the sensory replaced in it.

Brian Faith

Analyst

I think so because the smartphone engagements, they have more of a rigorous release process that they typically stick to because they don't want to miss a window of opportunity and there's pretty regular releases for funds in particular. Wearables are a different beast and they don't necessarily follow the same rigorous release process, they're not tied to a carrier for example for the most part. And so they have a very asynchronous path to that. So I do have more confidence in the dates associated with those smartphone guys unlike what we've all experienced recently with this tier-1 smartphone guy doing the wearable. Let me add one more comment to that too, sorry Rich, one more thing. This tier-1 smartphone guy doing the wearable, I think that they're also they're just - they're pushing the envelope so far with the functionality they want to deploy with this wearable and they really want to get it right. And so if you combine that with the fact that it's not tied to a specific release pattern in the market for phones I think that's why another reason why we're seeing the shift here and why that's different from a traditional smartphone launch.

Rick Neaton

Analyst

Last quarter you talked about a possibility of a 55-nanometer process for [indiscernible] is that opportunity still open?

Brian Faith

Analyst

It is. We're seeing opportunity there. We're also seeing opportunity at other workforce nodes like 28 nanometer and interest in much more aggressive nodes than that on FinFET processes. So we're right now I think we've been fairly open about what we're doing from a development and verification point of view with test chips on current nodes that we've talked about like 22 FDX and now the 40 nanometer SMIC. So as we free up from these developments, we are going to go off into the next node and what that node is, I'm not going to communicate on this call yet, but we will be able to talk about that in future calls at some point. But yes, the opportunity absolutely still exists.

Rick Neaton

Analyst

One last question about 4Q here. You talked about the slope of the ramp and the sustainability from their forward being a lot dependent upon the tier-1 smartphone customers bringing this wearable into production. Is there any possibility that you could still come very close to the 50% revenue increase target for the year?

Brian Faith

Analyst

In 2017?

Rick Neaton

Analyst

In 2017.

Brian Faith

Analyst

I guess theoretically that's possible. I don't know again the slope of the ramp if they were a steeper slope and they do ramp in Q4, then it is possible. And we have a lot of other things going on in the funnel. So I wouldn't take it completely off the table. In that sense, I'm a pretty binary guy there. I'm not going to exaggerate but we're just trying to give you some sense of what the drivers are for that and that some of the big drivers that we had in our assumptions have shifted. So I think it was just in the, even being very open with you as investors where the risks are.

Rick Neaton

Analyst

Your predecessor used to use the term significant revenue increase when he was talking about a percentage that was - say between 15% and 30% year-over-year, is that still doable in 2017?

Brian Faith

Analyst

Like I said in the previous, I think somebody asked a similar question. I'm not able to really articulate a percentage on the call I'd like to. But I think just given the uncertainties and not knowing for sure exactly what their forecasts are, I don't feel comfortable giving you that number just because of that uncertainty. That being said I do feel like the momentum is there, the engagements are there, we've started to announce wins and we see enough to know that Q4 will be the start and it will be up over Q3. I just I can't give you a number on the call as much as I want to, I just don't know what that number is at this point.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. At this time I'd like to turn the call over to Brian Faith for any closing remarks.

Brian Faith

Analyst

So one final note, we're participating in the upcoming events. Sue and I will be meeting investors in New York City and Boston on September 7th and 8th. We'll be at the SMIC Technology Symposium in Shanghai in September 13. The Design & Resource IP Conference in Shanghai on September 14th. GLOBALFOUNDRIES Technology Conference in Santa Clara on September 20th, in Munich on October 18th, and in Shanghai on November 1st. We'll be at ARM TechCon in San Francisco between October 24th and 26th. And our CTO and SVP Engineering Dr. Tim Saxe will be speaking at the 15th International SoC Conference at UC Irvine October 18th and 19th. Thank you again for your participation today and we look forward to updating you on our progress during our next quarterly conference call on November 8th. Thank you and good bye.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference. Thank you for your participation and have a wonderful day.