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Q2 Holdings, Inc. (QTWO)

Q1 2023 Earnings Call· Tue, May 9, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good day, everyone. My name is Lisa, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Q2 Holdings First Quarter 2023 Financial Results Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. . I would now like to turn the call over to Josh Yankovich, Investor Relations. Please go ahead sir.

Josh Yankovich

Management

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our First Quarter 2023 Conference Call. With me on the call today are Matt Flake, our CEO; David Mehok, our CFO; Jonathan Price, our Executive Vice President of Emerging Businesses, Corporate and Business Development; and our newly appointed President, Kirk Coleman who will join us for the Q&A portion of the call. This call contains forward-looking statements that are subject to significant risks and uncertainties, including with respect to our expectations for the future operating and financial performance of Q2 Holdings and for the financial services industry. Actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by these forward-looking statements, and we can give no assurance that such expectations or any of our forward-looking statements will prove to be correct. Important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those reflected in the forward-looking statements are included in our periodic reports filed with the SEC. Copies of which may be found on the Investor Relations section of our website including our quarterly report on Form 10-Q filed today and subsequent filings and the press release distributed this afternoon regarding the financial results we will discuss today. Forward-looking statements that we make on this call are based on assumptions only as of the date discussed. Investors should not assume that these statements will remain operative at a later time and we undertake no obligation to update any such forward-looking statements discussed in this call. Also, unless otherwise stated, all financial measures discussed on this call will be on a non-GAAP basis. A discussion of why we use non-GAAP financial measures and a reconciliation of the non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures is included in our press release which may be found on the Investor Relations section of our website and in our Form 8-K filed with the SEC this afternoon. We have also published additional materials related to today's results on our Investor Relations website. Let me now turn the call over to Matt.

Matt Flake

Management

Thanks, Josh. On today's call, I will share our results and highlights from the first quarter. I'll then hand it over to Jonathan to provide more insights into our emerging businesses activity before David discusses our financial results and guidance in more detail. However, before I dive into the quarter, I wanted to spend a few moments sharing our high-level perspective on the regional and community banking space. Over the past two months, we have spent a lot of time with our customers. We partner with a diverse mix of banks and credit unions that represent many different geographies and sizes, and in general the vast majority of them report that they believe their businesses to be healthy and that they have not been meaningfully impacted by the recent challenges affecting a select number of banks, which aligns with the survey results and research findings that others in our sector have cited in recent calls. Moreover, we believe that banking is going to continue to be done digitally and the financial institutions will continue to invest in upgrading their technology to compete in their markets and serve their customers more efficiently. In this environment, where retaining customers and deposits are at a premium, technology is especially critical and we believe we have built a best-in-class digital banking platform which is designed to help financial institutions win, retain and grow deposits across both retail and commercial lines of business all from a single system. And we're seeing strong demand and sales execution to support these beliefs. We've had two record sales quarters in a row. We had our best ever win rates in the first quarter. We accelerated subscription revenue growth and our pipeline remains healthy. With that said, we're seeing some of our larger financial institution customers further tighten spend…

Jonathan Price

Management

Thanks, Matt. I'll start with Q2 Innovation Studio, which has continued to see strong adoption from both partners and customers. When we launched our vision was to create a best-in-class partner ecosystem, that would allow third-party technology to easily integrate into our digital banking platform, and in turn give our customers the ability to seamlessly add those partners into their digital channel, in a fraction of the time of traditional delivery. In doing this, Q2 Innovation Studio will provide financial institutions the ability to save costs, associated with traditional technology partnerships, add solutions that drive noninterest fee income and ultimately drive deeper broader engagement with our account holders. Today, we are several steps towards achieving this vision. We have driven customer adoption, with more than 300 of our digital banking customers, representing approximately 16 million users, now leveraging Q2 Innovation Studio, and we have scaled the partner ecosystem with more than 120 available technology partners. The last piece of the model, is end user adoption and in the past 12 months, we've more than doubled the number of users actively using our partner solutions, driving high-margin revenue to Q2. That said, we believe we are still in the early innings of end user adoption. We are pleased with the progress to date, and are seeing Q2 Innovation Studio drive real, meaningful outcomes for our customers. Take the story of a roughly $500 million bank in Tennessee. To differentiate themselves in their market, they set an aggressive innovation road map, but couldn't deliver against it quickly enough through conventional delivery channels, and like many regional community financial institutions, lack the technology resources to take on the work themselves. In the last 12 months, the bank has added six new solutions using Q2 Innovation Studios' partner ecosystem from credit scoring to a…

David Mehok

Management

Thanks Jonathan. At the start of the year we communicated our focus on delivering accelerated growth in subscription revenue coupled with a meaningful improvement in adjusted EBITDA and cash flow. We're extremely pleased with the progress we made on these priorities in the first quarter as we increased the growth rate of our subscription revenue and built on our bookings momentum with a record performance in digital banking. We delivered better than expected revenue and adjusted EBITDA in addition to generating better-than-expected cash flow from operations for the first quarter of the year. We also took proactive action to reduce our total debt balance through the repurchase of $171 million of long-term convertible debt at a meaningful discount to face value, reducing our total face value of debt by approximately 26%. With that I'll begin by reviewing our results and conclude with updated guidance for the second quarter and full year of 2023. Total non-GAAP revenue for the first quarter was $153.1 million, an increase of 14% year-over-year and up 4% sequentially. The year-over-year and sequential increases for the quarter were primarily driven by growth in subscription-based revenue, which was up 19% year-over-year and 7% sequentially. The year-over-year acceleration in subscription revenue growth was primarily attributable to the deployment of new digital banking customers. In addition, the year-over-year and sequential acceleration in subscription revenue growth was driven from incremental revenue associated with cross-sold solutions and organic growth. Our subscription revenue for the quarter was 75% of our total revenue, up from 72% of total revenue in the prior year period and 74% of total revenue in the previous quarter. Due to the strength we've observed in our subscription-based bookings, we continue to expect our full year 2023 subscription revenue will accelerate from the growth we observed in 2022. The strength…

Matt Flake

Management

Thanks, David. In closing, I want to reiterate my confidence in our business, our products and our ability to drive long-term value creation. Despite the disruptions in the banking space, we continued to drive acceleration in subscription revenue growth and delivered strong non-GAAP profitability results. We also had a record first quarter in terms of digital banking bookings building on our momentum from a strong second half of 2022. And in this environment where financial institutions are focused on customer retention and growing deposits, we're seeing record win rates and levels of demand for our digital banking solutions, which are proven to help financial institutions win and retain new customers. I also want to emphasize my confidence in the long-term importance of regional and community financial institutions. There have always been big banks but community-focused banks and credit unions have always offered an agility and localized products and services that set them apart. Today, by being able to level the playing field with technology, I believe they are as viable, competitive and crucial as they've ever been. Community banking is integral to our economy and our way of life. We expect that to remain true long past what we believe will be a temporary disruption we're seeing in the market and our products have never been more important to our customers than they are right now. Thank you. And with that I'll turn it over to the operator for questions.

Operator

Operator

We'll take our first question from Alex Sklar with Raymond James.

Alex Sklar

Analyst

Great. Thank you. Matt, another really nice subscription bookings quarter. I just want to start with the demand environment broadly and specifically, the linearity of bookings in the quarter kind of before versus after the kind of early March, some of the bank failures. I know bookings are normally back of the quarter weighted but anything to flag in terms of percent of bookings that came in the final few weeks of March versus historical? Thanks.

Matt Flake

Management

Yes. So I'll answer the bookings question. Thanks Alex. It was 35% of the bookings came after March 10. So in March 10 is the Silicon Valley Bank situation. So the momentum continued and that kind of builds on the demand environment comments right now. If you think about -- right now we had record bookings digital banking bookings in the first quarter, after typically a record bookings for the company in the fourth quarter of last year and a really strong second half of the third quarter. So 2.5 quarters of really strong bookings and the demand the pipeline is strong still. RFP activity is up 40% from the prior quarter and the prior year and we're just seeing a tremendous amount of demand for these products. I would tell you that if you think about what's going on prospects of ours have customers that have opened accounts at other banks, because of the insured account situation. They're getting to see the Big 4's technology and when they look at their existing legacy tech the banks come back to us and say we need a modern platform that works on mobile phones and tablets has full feature functionality, retail, small business and commercial banking and it really is driving a lot of demand in the pipeline for us. So it takes a little bit to get your arms around that in the environment with the news around community and regional finance institutions but the demand environment is as strong as it's been in a long time. We feel good about our position. Our win rates are as high as they've been in a significant period of time. So that's it.

Alex Sklar

Analyst

That's a really good flag on the Big 4 kind of tech competition kind of driving demand for some of your customers. I guess David just one follow-up for you. I appreciate the color on subscription ARR bookings. That's a good call out. Is there anything that's changing in terms of kind of your ability to hit that kind of Rule of 30 outlook exiting last year just given the change in discretionary revenue?

David Mehok

Management

Not at all, Alex. In fact one of the things that we talked about when we had our call three months ago was the fact that there is flexibility in that model. That Rule of 30 concept, Rule of 40 concept obviously provides us with flexibility and we can modulate either one of the line items depending upon what the market gives us in one instance and the things that we can control in costs in the other. So, we feel really good now about our ability to continue to deliver on the combined EBITDA as well as growth rates as we get towards the end of 2024. I'll give you an example. This year, if you remember, when we gave our guidance originally, we were at about 21% to 22% in terms of those two metrics combined. We came down with our growth -- revenue growth rate based upon discretionary services but with our increase in EBITDA guidance, we're roughly in that same range. So it's an example this year of our ability to modulate, our ability to execute on those things that we control, which is cost in this instance and we think we're going to be able to continue to do that until 2024 and hit that Rule of 30.

Alex Sklar

Analyst

All right. Thank you both for the color.

David Mehok

Management

Thank you, Alex.

Operator

Operator

We'll take our next question from Andrew Schmidt with Citi Global Markets.

Andrew Schmidt

Analyst · Citi Global Markets.

Hey, guys. Thank you for taking my questions. And Kirk, congrats on your new role. Great to see -- great to see the resilience in the demand environment. Something we have kind of thought about a lot as well. But maybe to put a finer point on it since you do serve a wide range of FIs across digital banking, digital lending. Could you talk about if there are differences in demand pipeline, sales cycles across whether it's different types of FIs or for an asset-size institutions. And then, maybe as a quick follow-up to that if you could comment on just the overall health of your customer base. It sounds like you've talked to a lot of customers. What you're seeing there? Anything on those fronts would be helpful. Thanks a lot guys.

Matt Flake

Management

Yes. Sure Andrew. I would say also -- welcome to Kirk as well. Really excited to have him on board or have him as a President. From a -- it doesn't matter right now whether you're a Tier 3, Tier 2 or Tier 1 customer. The thing I think that's differentiating is the ones that are thinking about using technology as a way to compete and differentiate. And that's where we're seeing the demand come from. Obviously the ones that may not have as strategic of a view as our customer base or the prospects that are out there aren't in play. But the ones that we've always gravitated towards are the ones that have a strategic view and we have a long-term view in the marketplace. So it's been a -- the demand has just been strong in all three categories: Tier 3, Tier 2 and Tier 1. And the second part of the question was around the health of the customers. We talked about it a little bit. I think all of the core processors and everybody have talked about -- the edge cases that occurred here whether it's business model runs on the bank poor management those are edge cases. The vast majority of our customers bank individuals, small businesses, medium-sized businesses they're Main Street lenders and depositors. And those folks just -- they didn't see what these other financial institutions that have trouble have seen. And so it's a matter -- I think we have to get through this storm and then we will realize that these guys are a critical part of the economy. There where job growth comes from. There's where entrepreneurship goes. So we believe we have a very healthy customer base with our ratings are strong on our customers. Of course you're going to have some of these educations that occur but we feel really good about the health of our customers. We have a broad and diverse set of customers that are both credit unions banks big small midsize and banking a lot of different businesses. So feel really good about the customer health. It's just going to take a little time for people to get comfortable with it.

Andrew Schmidt

Analyst · Citi Global Markets.

Super helpful. Thank you for the commentary Matt. And then if I could ask about just on the cost side. Great to see the EBITDA performance for the full year despite the top line. It looks like there might have been some cost efficiencies that were accelerated or kind of some better execution there. Maybe just talk about what kind of cost efficiency benefits that are embedded for this year? And then what's the opportunity for just seeing kind of incremental benefit from those? Because I know you do have a number of things going on. Any context there in the cost that would be helpful.

David Mehok

Management

Yeah. Sure Andrew. And this is something that we started last summer. It's not something that we've implemented over the course of the last few months and we've just been building on a lot of those initiatives that we put in place about nine to 10 months ago. I'll give you an example of some of those that are having the biggest impact. The first is utilization of global resources in a more effective manner. We're doing that across many areas of the business and we're finding not only is it helping us in terms of our cost profile but it's also helping us in terms of the overall output. We're seeing really high output from the teams that we're utilizing overseas. We're continuing to invest in those areas and we found it to be highly effective across the board. We've looked at our facilities footprint exiting last year. We've continued to execute on that in terms of reducing the overall footprint. You see about a $3 million, $3.5 million impact this year relative to last year in terms of some of the actions we've taken there. We've gotten more aggressive in terms of our ability to consolidate vendors and drive costs out from a procurement standpoint. And then we're using automation in everything that we possibly can to improve a lot of the processes that we have and as a result the cost. As an example in our customer care we're using AI to help us better understand customer behaviors and drive a lot of efficiencies there. So there's a lot of that that's embedded in different areas of the business that are driving incremental areas of productivity and that's translating into cost. So as we're growing the business, we're not having to add heads. And in some instances as we may have somebody leave the company we'll have to backfill those roles. And so we feel really good about what we've seen and through the first quarter in terms of our cost profile and obviously we have confidence that we're going to be able to continue to do the same thing going forward for the next three quarters which is the result of the increased guidance in EBITDA.

Andrew Schmidt

Analyst · Citi Global Markets.

Got it. Thanks so much, David. Appreciate the comments.

Operator

Operator

We'll take our next question from Terry Tillman with Truist Securities.

Terry Tillman

Analyst · Truist Securities.

Great afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. I appreciate all the color and nice job on the bookings. I guess maybe -- I don't know if this is for you Matt or Kirk. Is Kirk going to answer questions if we asked him a question, or I don't want to put him on the spot but I just wanted to kind of know that before I unleash my questions here.

Kirk Coleman

Analyst · Truist Securities.

I'm here Terry.

Matt Flake

Management

He can answer your question.

Terry Tillman

Analyst · Truist Securities.

Okay. All right. Well -- and I don't know if this is more for Matt right now but I'll let anybody just attack it or even David. But you guys every quarter for a number of quarters have been talking about these digital banking wins where it's commercial and small business banking. I mean, definitely something's afoot. I know you all have been working on this for years in terms of hardening that platform but what I'm curious about is, is it a lot of legacy replacement opportunities and just kind of where do you think we are in the innings of that? And where have you gotten to in terms of being able to scale to the much larger banks in terms of managing treasury and commercial banking services? And then I have a follow-up.

Matt Flake

Management

Yes. I'll comment on the success in small midsized and commercial banking. Sometimes I have to remind people that our first line of code that we wrote in 2004 had ACH's wires tax payments and entitlements built into it but about 12 years ago we made a significant investment into treasury and commercial banking capabilities which takes you up above small business. And what we learned during that process is you can write the software and you can deliver the code, but the experience around delivering the software converting from legacy systems providing a support infrastructure around those customers and integrating into the systems, that are different than retail it takes a long time. And as we've shown you over the last -- since we've gone public in 2014 with more than 75 customers above 100 -- above $5 billion in assets we are really moving into that area where we can handle larger commercial customers. And that success over the last couple of quarters is about a product that is very difficult to compete within the marketplace. If you're a legacy tech player, that hasn't been able to modernize your tech where it works on mobile phones and tablets and has a sleek user interface and also was able to integrate to not only the commercial systems, but the retail systems. And then if you're down market and you don't have any experience converting a $10 billion, $15 billion, $20 billion bank off these systems, they're not going to take their chance with their crown jewels to go to somebody who's never done it before. And so we're in a really unique spot there competing with these legacy players. It's all legacy Tech out there on the commercial side Terry. In some cases 25 or 35 years old is what we're talking about as far as some of the -- even older than that some of the systems that they're using. So I feel really good about the demand environment there and doing well. So that's -- it's a good place to be. And I think you're going to continue to see that success through this year and hopefully beyond that.

Terry Tillman

Analyst · Truist Securities.

That's great to hear. And I guess, maybe Kirk to go ahead and put you on the spot then and congrats on the new role, but you are a Former Bank Technology Executive. As you've had some time at Q2, what product or kind of market opportunity do you think is maybe least understood or underappreciated? Thank you.

Kirk Coleman

Analyst · Truist Securities.

Yeah. Thanks Terry. I appreciate the congratulations. I'd kind of point to two different things, just to double down on some of what Matt was talking about. The difference between just kind of a regular business account and treasury management services is pretty substantial in terms of the complexity of actually delivering that and scaling it in a way that's really important not just for the largest institutions, but also for small institutions who are serving very specific segments and that sort of thing. And it takes a lot of that back to get really good at that, because you have to see all the different varieties. We have a really wonderfully diverse set of customers and so that gives us a lot of different things to work on with them. And so that builds up overtime. I think that's probably not as appreciated from the outside as what we see on the inside and the amount of investment that we've had to make overtime. That also bridges over into things like our PrecisionLender product right, which is now transitioning fully into both sides of the balance sheet where we have treasury premium pricing capabilities which in this environment of course is just critically important in terms of pricing not just the loans but the deposit relationships. And all of those treasury relationships will just kind of remember that on the deposit side of the balance sheet the real money is made when you can charge for treasury services. And so getting that really right and being able to customize it particularly for your larger customers is super important. So I think that would be an arena Terry that I would point to. I think the amount of R&D that had to go into building those kinds of products is probably not as well understood as we might like.

Terry Tillman

Analyst · Truist Securities.

That's great. Thanks a lot.

Matt Flake

Management

Thanks Terry.

Kirk Coleman

Analyst · Truist Securities.

Thanks Terry.

Operator

Operator

We'll take our next question from Bob Napoli with William Blair.

Adib Choudhury

Analyst · William Blair.

Hey. Good afternoon guys. This is Adib Choudhury on for Bob. Just in terms of first question could you just talk a little bit more about that decision I guess, structurally to break out the President and CEO role? And how we should think about the impact if any in terms of Q2's core strategy and go-to-market? Thanks.

Matt Flake

Management

Yeah. It won't have any impact on our go-to-market. It's just deepening the leadership bench, opening up the room for more voices and perspectives which is a valuable thing for us to do at this stage and scale in the company. And its focusing leadership on both the strategic and the operational sides of the business. Execution is critical to us. Our customers want to see it I want to see it. My board wants to see it the shareholders do. And I think with Kirk laser-focused on the operational side of the business and me working with him to help him in any way I can and him providing help for me and the team on the strategic side it's just -- it was a natural time for us to do it at this size. And I'm excited about having him.

Adib Choudhury

Analyst · William Blair.

Thanks. Appreciate that. And then, just as a quick follow-up. Just thinking about kind of capital allocation and M&A, could you kind of talk about your current appetite in the current environment and if you're starting to see more attractively priced assets and things that you potentially be interested in, in terms of product-oriented capabilities or others? Thanks.

Jonathan Price

Management

Yes. I mean, it's Jonathan. I would say, we're starting to see the flow of inbound opportunities, but candidly the quality of the assets and the value expectations aren't where we'd like them to be, or we expect them to be as we get towards the end of this year and into next year. And that has taken longer, but to be fair, there's been a lot of other macro events that have occurred that might have delayed that from happening. So we are seeing more inbound activity from the corp dev standpoint, but again nothing that has excited us or got us to a point of action. And candidly, I think we're in a moment in time where we have to be pretty prudent when it comes to capital allocation given the scarcity value of cash and we have a good amount to be competitive and credible in these discussions. And so we just have to be smart about doing the right deals. And so that's sort of where we sit today on the corp dev front.

Adib Choudhury

Analyst · William Blair.

Appreciate the color.

Jonathan Price

Management

Thank you.

Matt Flake

Management

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from William McNamara with BTIG

William McNamara

Analyst · BTIG

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. Just kind of wanted to know how you guys are seeing current demand from customers for more automation or AI capabilities?

Matt Flake

Management

Kirk, do you want to take that?

Kirk Coleman

Analyst · BTIG

Yes. Hi, William, thanks for the question. It's early right? We're not even in the first inning we're in the first pitch of the first inning when it comes to kind of where we are in the evolution of AI. We're excited about the potential that it has for positively impacting our business and our products. But having said that, risk management, information security, compliance, privacy are all really important concerns. So we're looking at all those aspects as we think about how we can move forward. Certainly, it's a conversation we're having with our customers, and I'd say, just stay tuned on what some of the possibilities are going to be.

William McNamara

Analyst · BTIG

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

We'll take our next question from Parker Lane with Stifel.

Parker Lane

Analyst · Stifel.

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Wondering if you could talk a little bit more about the discretionary services spend and the headwinds you're facing there. I think we've talked in the past about back-office automation staff augmentation efficiency projects being the areas that people are looking to trim right now. Is it largely the same tune on that front, or are you seeing incremental challenges different areas and types of project scope of the work coming in and compressing here?

Matt Flake

Management

Yes. No, Parker, you answered it for me. That's the thing. Staff augmentation efficiency projects where you're driving you may have a double cost for a period of time, but you're going to save money in the long run. When March 10 happened everybody just kind of took a pause and a break, and said, we're going to have to evaluate what's coming down the pipe on discretionary spending. So that's what it is. There's no change. Just March 10 added a different level of it for us. And so it's something -- when you have a bunch of big customers it's something that comes along with the territory, but the subscription revenue obviously we were really pleased with the results from that and we continue to be pleased with that line of revenue, but we'll get through this discretionary spend and they'll pick it back up at some point. But right now it's just a matter of they're trying to sit back and watch what's going to happen.

Parker Lane

Analyst · Stifel.

Yes. Appreciate that Matt. And then we've often talked about M&A being a tailwind to your story. I think historically you're on the right side of M&A. With the recent developments that we saw in March and subsequent events has that had any impact on the M&A approval pipeline? And how are you thinking about that generally throughout 2023?

Matt Flake

Management

Yes, clearly, especially after coming off TD and First Horizon that deal it doesn't look like regulators want deals to get done. With that said, we -- First Citizens is a customer of ours and they acquired Silicon Valley Bank in the quarter. So obviously a great opportunity for us. Look forward to working with First Citizens and Silicon Valley Bank on doing whatever we can to integrate those and make that conversion as simple as possible. But M&A is obviously slowed down, but I think the reason we have been so successful in M&A those reasons still exist. And when it picks back up when consolidation happens we're going to be in a good spot again in my opinion. So, just a matter of kind of like I said earlier just weathering the storm and we still have the most strategic customer base I would argue of a vendor out there and those customers are going to are going to -- go acquire other financial institutions to grow and get scale in this economy.

Parker Lane

Analyst · Stifel.

Understood. Thanks again for taking the question.

Matt Flake

Management

Thanks Parker.

David Mehok

Management

Thanks Parker.

Operator

Operator

We'll take our next question from Alex Markgraff with KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Alex Markgraff

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Hey all. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe just to pile on to the demand topic more specifically within the kind of emerging business segment so for Jonathan. Just kind of curious. You provided some helpful anecdotes around the events in March. Just curious how your conversations more broadly have evolved with customers in the last couple of months and maybe how expectations for 2023 have changed if at all as the backdrop has evolved a bit? Thanks.

Jonathan Price

Management

Yes. So, let's bifurcate between Innovation Studio and Helix. On the Innovation Studio side, we are seeing more demand for partners for access to the channel. So they want to integrate with banks and credit unions. And as they faced headwinds in their business because of economic pressures funding pressures the demand for a single point of entry to many users like we have over 21 million on the platform we're seeing broad-based demand for our partners that's driving a lot of the success we're seeing on the Innovation Studio side. When you look at Helix side, I think you have seen some impact on the net new environment in terms of the lengthening of sales cycles because of scrutiny around banks especially post March 9th and all of our in our model our Fintechs and brands are partnering with sponsor banks. And so that there's definitely at a different level of diligence that goes into that. But the pipeline is still strong. I think if anything the demand for deposits is driving a renewed interest in what a lightweight core can do to help drive deposit gathering strategies. So, we feel really good about it. And as we talked about on the call our existing customers are renewing with us. We're being very strategic in helping them navigate their profitability profiles managing things like fraud but it's a matter of again navigating this environment and making sure that we're there for our customers and in the right position to win new deals as they come up. But the pipeline does remain strong for the rest of the year so we're cautiously optimistic.

Alex Markgraff

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Great. Thank you.

Jonathan Price

Management

Thank you.

Matt Flake

Management

Thanks Alex.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And this does conclude the question-and-answer session. Thank you for participating in today's call and you may now disconnect.