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Q2 Holdings, Inc. (QTWO)

Q3 2022 Earnings Call· Mon, Nov 7, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, everyone. My name is Kelly, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome everyone to the Q3 Holdings Third Quarter 2022 Financial Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Josh Yankovich, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Josh Yankovich

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us for the third quarter 2022 conference call. With me on the call today are Matt Flake, our CEO; David Mehok, our CFO; and Jonathan Price, our Executive Vice President of Emerging Businesses, Corporate and Business Development. This call contains forward-looking statements that are subject to significant risks and uncertainties, including with respect to our expectations for the future operating and financial performance of Q2 Holdings. Actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by these forward-looking statements, and we can give no assurance that such expectations or any of our forward-looking statements will prove to be correct. Important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those reflected in the forward-looking statements are included in our periodic reports filed with the SEC, copies of which may be found on the Investor Relations section of our website, including our quarterly report on Form 10-Q to be filed this week and subsequent filings and the press release distributed this afternoon regarding the financial results we will discuss today. Forward-looking statements that we make on this call are based on assumptions only as of the date discussed. Investors should not assume that these statements will remain operative at a later time, and we undertake no obligation to update any such forward-looking statements discussed in this call. Also, unless otherwise stated, all financial measures discussed on this call will be on a non-GAAP basis. A discussion of why we use non-GAAP financial measures and a reconciliation of the non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures is included in our press release which may be found on the Investor Relations section of our website and in our Form 8-K filed with the SEC this afternoon. Let me now turn the call over to Matt.

Matthew Flake

Analyst

Thanks, Josh. I'll start today's call by sharing our third quarter results and highlights from across the business. I'll then hand it over to Jonathan to provide more insights into our emerging businesses activity. From there, I'll discuss how we're adapting to the current market influences before handing it off to David to walk through our financial results and outlook in more detail. In the third quarter, we generated non-GAAP revenue of $144.9 million, up 14% year-over-year and 3% sequentially. We also added over 700,000 users to our digital banking platform, a year-over-year increase of 9%. That brings us to approximately 20.9 million total registered users. We delivered strong sales execution in the third quarter, highlighted by a digital banking enterprise deal and 5 Tier 1 wins with both new and existing customers. Our emerging businesses also had solid activity in the quarter. We signed a new Helix customer that opens a new vertical for us and launched key client programs. We're seeing Innovation Studio, our award-winning SDK and partner ecosystem continue to play an important role in our digital banking sales' success. And finally, we announced the acquisition of Sensibill in early October, a leading customer data platform designed to unlock actionable insights to help financial institutions and fintechs better serve their customers. With that, let me unpack our sales highlights in more detail. I'll start with digital banking, where we signed 3 Tier 1 deals and landed an enterprise win with a top 50 U.S. bank. Q2 participated in a highly competitive selection process to win this marquee enterprise deal, and the bank will now use the Q2 platform for their commercial and small business clients. It's worth noting that this is the largest deal we've signed in the last 3 years, and our proven ability to expand…

Jonathan Price

Analyst

Thanks, Matt. I'll start with Helix, where we signed net new and cross deals and launched key programs in the quarter. First, we signed a digital life insurance company that offers the unique savings account with competitive benefits. As our first partnership within the insurance vertical, this deal showcases yet another opportunity for us to partner with innovative companies, no matter their industry, seeking to provide compelling alternatives to traditional offerings through embedded finance. We also had multiple clients launch their Helix-powered programs in the quarter. One of these program launches was with Mana, an online gaming company looking to offer personalized banking services to their users, including checking accounts and debit cards. As we've discussed in the past, program launches with our Helix clients are significant events as this business model is designed to generate incremental, usage-based revenue driven by user growth and adoption. So with Mana's partnerships in the gaming space, unique distribution model and engaged user base, we're excited to help unlock the potential of this program as it scales. Another development in the quarter was with an existing customer that expanded their relationship with us, adding an incremental program supported by a new issuer processor and bank of record, an initiative they determined only Helix could support. Not only does this program generate additional revenue for us, it also demonstrates how Helix can help clients leverage multibank environments or deployment models as they seek out greater optionality, risk mitigation and business continuity. I'm also pleased to report that Q2 Innovation Studio continues to help us secure wins across the business. Consistently cited as a differentiator by prospects, Innovation Studio has now shifted beyond that. It's become an integral component in nearly every digital banking deal we signed. And its impact is 2 pronged. Not only have…

Matthew Flake

Analyst

Thanks, Jonathan. I'm pleased with the sales execution from the quarter, and my conversations with our customers indicate that digital transformation remains a top strategic priority for financial institutions of all sizes. As we noted on our last earnings call, we have continued to monitor the challenging macroeconomic environment, and we are seeing some larger financial institutions slow certain discretionary spending due to ongoing macroeconomic uncertainty. For example, in the third quarter, several key customers began to defer discretionary services projects with us. We have also observed shifting market dynamics in Europe, which has faced a particularly challenging sales environment. As such, we will prioritize profitable growth and focus our go-to-market efforts in regions with more favorable demand environments but continue to provide outstanding support to our customers in Europe. Considering all these dynamics and our increased focus on profitability, we are revising revenue and EBITDA guidance for the remainder of the year, which David will discuss in more detail shortly. Taking a longer-term view, I remain confident about the opportunity in front of us. The fundamentals of this business haven't changed. We are competing well, we are extending and expanding customer relationships, and our pipeline suggests that demand for digital transformation solutions remain strong. Given these strengths, we expect subscription revenue growth, the vast majority of our revenue base, to accelerate in 2023. And with emphasis on cost management, we expect to drive expanding EBITDA margins in '23 as well. With that, I'll hand it over to David to discuss our financials and guidance in more detail.

David Mehok

Analyst

Thanks, Matt. Our revenue for the third quarter came in below our guidance range, predominantly driven by pressure on our transactional and lower margin services revenue streams. However, we also saw an acceleration in our higher-margin subscription revenue. Despite total revenue coming in below our guidance, our adjusted EBITDA results exceeded the high end of our guidance due to proactive cost management and a more favorable revenue mix. Additionally, our ARR, backlog and user growth continue to give us confidence in the continued acceleration of higher-margin subscription revenue. I'll begin by reviewing our results for the quarter and conclude with updated guidance for the fourth quarter and full year of 2022. Total non-GAAP revenue for the third quarter was $144.9 million, an increase of 14% year-over-year and 3% sequentially. The year-over-year increase for the quarter was primarily driven by an increase in subscription revenue resulting from customer go-lives, specifically within our digital banking business, where we had more go-lives take place in the third quarter than during the entire first half of the year. Our sequential growth was the result of solid organic growth and the contribution of go-lives, which resulted in the highest number of users added in the quarter in 2 years. Transactional revenue represented 11% of total revenue for the quarter, down from 14% in the prior year period and 13% in the previous quarter. The year-over-year and sequential decline in transactional revenue was largely driven by a decline in transactional volumes within our digital banking and Helix businesses. Usage-based revenue in our Helix business declined from prior quarters, and some of our customers observed elevated transactional volumes during the spring tax season. This, combined with the continued year-over-year contraction of our bill pay business is putting greater than expected downward pressure on transactional revenue. Services and…

Matthew Flake

Analyst

Thanks, David. In closing, I want to emphasize the strength of our execution from the quarter. We had our strongest bookings quarter of the year, signed new customers across our lines of business and had meaningful wins in digital banking, digital lending and Helix, including 5 Tier 1 deals and the enterprise win, the latter being our single largest deal since 2019. While we believe our recent sales execution and the state of our pipeline signal a positive demand environment, we continue to monitor the changing economic backdrop and its impact to our customers and are focused on profitable growth and driving adjusted EBITDA margin expansion. And long term, I remain extremely confident in the future of this business. Our financial model is strong. Our product portfolio is highly differentiated, and financial institutions continue to prioritize digital transformation across their businesses. Thanks. And with that, I will hand it over to the operator for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We'll hear first today from Andrew Schmidt with Citi.

Andrew Schmidt

Analyst

I want to start up on the discretionary spend piece. Could you just kind of talk about what types of discretionary spend are being deferred? And then just by my math, I think we've seen discretionary spend and transactional revenues might be about an $8 million headwind in the fourth quarter. Just curious how to think about that layering in on a quarterly basis going forward.

Matthew Flake

Analyst

Yes, Andrew, thanks for asking that question. So the types of discretionary spend that we're seeing impacted, I want to be clear, they're not implementation decisions. It's more around staff augmentation like back-office automation things, efficiency projects where you could have a customer that is doing things to automate a process where there's a human involved but there's a double cost for that period of time. And so what we're seeing is they're backing off of those types of agreements. It could be rebranding exercises, some readiness consulting-type projects that has impacted the discretionary spend. And I think this kind of comes with -- when you have a -- we have 190 customers that are more than $5 billion and more than 100 that are over $10 billion, you start to get into some of those services projects. But that's what we're seeing on the discretionary spend side.

David Mehok

Analyst

Yes. And just to take that -- I think, Andrew, your question was taking that into '23. The way that we're viewing this is based upon what we know today, is we're expecting that we're going to see continued pressure on those discretionary services. So we're extrapolating what we're seeing today into '23 based upon that high-level outlook that I provided. And then on the transactional side, that's a combination of both the continued bill pay pressure, which we've seen. And again, that's been much more significant than we thought coming into the year, combined with Helix, which is very transactional-based. As you know, over the course of last year, we've migrated those contracts to be from license to much more transactional-based. As a result, when the number of transactions start to go down and the user acquisition starts to go down with some of our customers, we see pressure on our transactional revenue. So those 2 things combined are what we're referring to when we talk about the pressure on transactional heading into '23.

Andrew Schmidt

Analyst

Matt and David, that's super helpful. And then I guess on the margin side, in 2023, I think previously adjusted EBITDA, [ like in class to NOC ], the expectation was 300 to 400 basis points. And just trying to understand kind of the moving parts with mix for next year and the focus on efficiency. Is that still the right way to think about margin expansion? Or is there a little bit more just given the nature of revenues and the focus on efficiency? Any comments on just how to think about margin expansion as it started would be helpful.

David Mehok

Analyst

Yes, Andrew, qualitatively, you're spot on. I mean those are going to be some of the key drivers. The mix of revenue, which we see improving towards higher profit revenue streams in 2023 relative to what we originally expected as well as very prudent cost management. Those 2 things combined are going to result in the EBITDA expansion we referenced. We're not going to quantify that at this point, so don't want to get into too much detail. That's something that we're working on diligently right now. We're right in the middle of the planning process. So we'll give you a lot more color and detail on what that EBITDA profile looks like in February.

Operator

Operator

We'll hear next from Joseph Vafi with Canaccord.

Joseph Vafi

Analyst

Just one more on the transactional side. If you take a look into where that's coming from, is it less business transactions? Or is it a -- kind of a trickle in on less sort of retail or individual transactions? Just trying to get a feel for kind of where perhaps in the model, there may be a little bit more weakness right now.

David Mehok

Analyst

Yes, Joe, this is a consumer retail driven phenomena for us based upon what we're seeing. This is not a commercial-driven issue.

Joseph Vafi

Analyst

Got it. And then on the Helix and the life insurance win, maybe you could kind of delve a little bit more into the use case there given they're not a bank, they are a financial institution, a little bit different. But just to get a feel for that value proposition and how it works outside of the bank channel.

Jonathan Price

Analyst

Joe, so what they're looking to do really is very similar to other embedded finance clients and prospects we see, which is get more engaged with our customers and figure out new ways to work with them, to monetize them. And so in this example, they're going to be launching an embedded savings program with them. Obviously, the rate environment has changed, so the ability to do that right now is attractive. And so it's -- there's nothing specific about being a life insurance business that's unique to that model, it's more just what we're seeing across the different verticals where there are opportunities we're looking at where they want to engage with clients around financial services in a deeper way than just in this case, their core insurance business.

Joseph Vafi

Analyst

Got it. And then just maybe just if I could ask one more kind of on the macro here. It's kind of early in this potential slowdown in the economy. Obviously, interest rates are higher. Some of the banks should be able to see some rising net interest margins over time. Matt, kind of how are discussions going on your types of deals with the banks as they are looking at this kind of potentially more uncertain economic outlook as we look into '23?

Matthew Flake

Analyst

Yes, thanks, Joe. I mean I think if you look at the quarter, the pipeline, the ARR growth, we had a phenomenal quarter. Digital transformation is still at the top of the list. We signed the biggest deal we've signed since '19 with the top 50 U.S. bank for a commercial deal. We signed 3 Tier 1s, 1 retail, 1 commercial and 1 with both of them. We had success on the lending side of the business. Jonathan just talked about the Helix win. So the digital transformation is underway. We feel like we're well positioned to capitalize on that with the tools we have in the products and in the customer base. The discretionary spending piece is really the piece where we're seeing the slowdown. And that's coming from, like I said earlier, the 190 customers above $5 billion in assets that are just being cautious. It's a complex environment out there and these guys are not risk takers, and they're going to make sure that the -- there's a risk mitigation plan in place to make sure that they don't get themselves in trouble. And you'll begin to see they're preparing for charge-offs or loss reserves if they need to, but couple that with a tougher regulatory environment, they're just being cautious around those types of spends that they can control. But other than that, the demand environment looks great. Our pipeline's up 50% year-over-year in the fourth quarter. So there's a lot of positive trends in the pipe and the digital transformation -- the need for digital transformation is as high as it's been a long time.

Operator

Operator

We'll hear next today from Charles Nabhan with Stephens.

Charles Nabhan

Analyst

So I wanted to get your comments on Europe. You're certainly not the first company to reference weakness in the area. And while I don't want to put words in your mouth, it almost sounded like you were referencing Europe as a potential area where you could pull back on some spend and focus some of your cost containment efforts. So I guess with that, I was hoping you could just comment on how you think about the future in the region as well as what you're seeing there.

Matthew Flake

Analyst

Yes, Chuck, I mean, for us, it was -- the demand environment has been tough since we've gotten into it within, I guess, January '20 and before that with Cloud Lending and then PrecisionLender, it really slowed down and then it just continued to struggle with the economy and the war and the things that are going on. So yes, we made a decision to let go of some of the less profitable revenue and reduce the go-to-market expense. We're still focused on the customers we have there, supporting them and innovating on the product side, but it was a place where we made a decision to cut some costs out of the business. But we're not giving up on it, we're just going to be a little patient on the demand side. The pandemic has taught us that we can do things remotely as well. So it is a place where you got to make decisions like that in this environment. And so we reduced our go-to-market expense there, and it's an opportunity for us to take care of customers and innovate, but it was an opportunity to find a way to save some money.

Charles Nabhan

Analyst

Got it. And I know you've gotten a few questions on the margin guide. But if I look at the -- what's implied by the midpoint for the fourth quarter, slightly below where we had previously expected, despite the fact that third quarter came in a little higher than expected on EBITDA. So from that standpoint, I was curious, is that a function of lower transaction revenues going forward? Or how -- could you maybe walk us through some of the puts and the takes and the drivers of that margin guide for the fourth quarter?

David Mehok

Analyst

Yes. Sure, Chuck. I mean the way to think about it is we're -- and I think Andrew or somebody referenced it earlier, it's about $8 million call down for the quarter. And the mix of that is going to be predominantly -- and when I say predominantly of the various buckets, about 40% is going to be based upon those services that are discretionary in nature. You've got about another 1/3 of it coming from transactional and the rest of it is coming from predominantly Europe. So those are the 3 buckets to think about. And then there's different margin profiles for each one of those, respectively. And those are the results of the implied EBITDA guidance that we referenced earlier in the call.

Charles Nabhan

Analyst

Got it. And if I could sneak in one more. It sounds like the -- you've done a pretty good job on cross-sell over the past few quarters. And in the past, you've alluded to that as incrementally beneficial to the overall margin. So I'm just curious, as we think about '23, you're cutting back on costs in certain areas, but can we presumably see a bit of a lift off from a business mix shift towards cross-sell over the next year or 2?

Matthew Flake

Analyst

Yes, Chuck, I think that's a safe bet. We're doubling down our customers, getting it in front of them as much as we can. We have a lot of solutions that can solve a lot of their problems in digital transformation. We've got a great relationship with our customers. Our NPS score is as high as they've been in a long time. And so cross-selling products to these customers, it was the game plan before the macroeconomic conditions, and so you're seeing us really run that play nicely. And the team, the customer success team is doing a great job of it.

Operator

Operator

We'll move next to Alex Sklar with Raymond James.

Alexander Chase Donovan

Analyst

This is Chase Donovan on for Alex. I know you had called out 3Q as being a large implementation quarter. Can you talk about how the go-lives are trending and how those are providing confidence in the outlook?

David Mehok

Analyst

Yes, sure, Chase. Yes, Q3 was significant in terms of our goal lines. It was -- we had more in Q3 than we did in the entire first half, and that's the benefit of the bookings that we predominantly drove in the second half of last year and to a lesser extent, in Q1. So with the continued bookings momentum and Matt referenced some of those wins that we had this quarter, we expect to see those manifest in go-lives late next year. In fact, the large enterprise opportunity that he referenced is one that's not going to go live until Q1 of 2024. So great for the long-term prospects of the business, but you don't start to see some of those larger ones go live until later next year.

Operator

Operator

We'll move next to Pete Heckmann with D.A. Davidson.

Peter Heckmann

Analyst

So just to be clear, the -- when you think about transactional revenue and disaggregating it a little bit, is it -- are you seeing the actual declines in users and accounts within some of your Helix relationships? Or is that something that you're more predicting? And then on the bill pay side, is that both the dynamic of your large institutions contracting directly for bill pay with some of the larger bank tech companies as well as existing active digital banking users paying less bills through a bank-aggregated website?

Matthew Flake

Analyst

Yes. Pete, I'll take the bill pay thing. I'll let JP or David take the Helix piece. Really, what we're seeing on bill pay is the number of payments an individual makes is reducing. So you see the consolidation of people who are paying fewer cable companies or your cable company, maybe your cell phone company, so you're getting fewer bills. I think you're -- for a while there, you were seeing every refinance and every mortgage had a direct payment that was set up on it, so you started to lose those. So you're just seeing that the reduction and the number of payments people make through bill payment reduced going down, plus you have P2P services that eliminate potentially paying landscapers or handymen around the shop. So that's what you're seeing on the bill pay side largely. And do you want to take the Helix?

Jonathan Price

Analyst

Yes. And on the Helix side, Pete, what I'd say there is it's more that what we're seeing is existing customers shift the focus of their spend away from acquiring new customers towards making them more profitable. So the impact on transactions there is more just relative to expectations. We're seeing fewer net user adds, and there's an attach rate that comes with the number of users and therefore, the resulting transaction. So we're not seeing a number of users decline. We're not seeing number of transactions decline. It's just the pace at which the user adds are coming in and what they're spending their dollars on, they're shifting towards the profitability of these programs, and that impacts our plan in terms of the flow-through of that transactional revenue, if that makes sense.

Peter Heckmann

Analyst

Yes. Okay. That's helpful. And then just one follow-up on the M&A that you've seen within your customer base. Decisions have been made so far. Are they pretty consistent with your expectations over the last couple of quarters that you felt pretty well positioned to win on the consolidations amongst some of the banks and credit unions in your -- in the customer base?

Matthew Flake

Analyst

Yes, absolutely. I mean we're certainly seeing that the benefits of those when they are getting approved. But that's a big but, right? And that's something that we talked about last call, was that we're seeing delays in the regulatory approval process when they are going through the approval process, though. We're seeing the benefits as we had anticipated, generally speaking. And you've probably seen this, Pete, we've seen a slowdown as well in recent M&A activity in general. We were seeing about 28 a month in the industry in Q1. That's down about 18 a month last quarter. So we still expect to see some benefits later next year in regards to some of those that we talked about earlier in the year. But given the elongated regulatory process, it's just taking us longer to see the revenue associated with it.

Operator

Operator

We'll hear now from Parker Lane with Stifel.

J. Lane

Analyst

Curious, when you look at the downtick in discretionary spending and weaker transactional and services revenue, is that something you encountered from the start of the quarter? Or was that something that popped up later on towards the end of the quarter?

Matthew Flake

Analyst

Yes, Parker, it really started towards the middle of the quarter. And we immediately took proactive actions in regards to making sure that we were focusing on some areas of what we do control, and that's cost. And as we looked into Q4, we looked deal-by-deal with the pipeline and saw some of those opportunities start to push out or at least get delayed. We don't know how long those delays are going to be. And as a result, we've given you what we truly believe is the Q4 outlook for the revenue associated with that. And then we've extrapolated that into what we believe to be a reasonable growth rate on that discretionary business into '23 incorporated into that high-level outlook we provided.

J. Lane

Analyst

Got it. And I know it's very early and we're not even in 2023 yet, but from your initial conversations with customers, is their expectation that the current conditions persist through all of 2023? Or is there some hope that maybe we end up stabilizing midway through the year and maybe the back half of the year looks a little bit better?

David Mehok

Analyst

Parker, it's one of those things where I think there's so much going on right now that everybody is trying to predict what's going to happen next summer, it's a little tough. So I think right now, people are just trying to focus on the information that's coming in and making the best decisions they can. I haven't had a lot of conversations. I think most people would argue that for the consumer, it's going to get tougher in the back half of '23, not easier based on what you're seeing with jobs and inflation and interest rates. But it's an environment that our customer base takes a step back and becomes pretty conservative, and that's what you see in the discretionary spending that's going on.

Operator

Operator

And with that, that will conclude today's conference. We do thank you all for your participation, and you may now disconnect.