Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. I am Katie, your Global Meet call operator. Welcome, and thank you for joining QIAGEN'S Q2 2025 Earnings Conference Call Webcast. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that this call is being recorded at QIAGEN's request and will be made available on their Internet site. [Operator Instructions] At this time, I'd like to introduce your host, John Gilardi, Vice President, Head of Corporate Communications at QIAGEN. Please go ahead.

Thank you, operator, and welcome to all of you to our call today for the second quarter of 2025. We appreciate your time and interest in QIAGEN. Joining me today are Thierry Bernard, our Chief Executive Officer; and Roland Sackers, our Chief Financial Officer. Also joining us is Dr. Domenica Martorana, from our IR team. Today's call is being webcast live and will be archived in the IR section of our website at www.qiagen.com. A copy of the results press release and the presentation are also available on our website. Before we begin, please note that this call will include forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially from those projected due to a number of factors outlined in our most recent Form 20-F and other filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. We will also refer to certain financial measures not prepared in accordance with U.S. GAAP that provide additional insights into our performance. Reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP figures are in the release and presentation. All references to earnings per share refer to diluted EPS. And with that, let me turn over the call to Thierry.

Thank you, John, and hello, good morning, good afternoon or good evening to everyone around the world. Thanks again for joining us. QIAGEN delivered another clean and solid quarter in Q2 of 2025. Indeed, our sales growth is among the highest in the industry. And on top of that, we are increasing our outlook for the year. This performance reflects focused execution and give us confidence to deliver on our upgraded 2025 targets. We are building a solid foundation to deliver more growth in 2026 on our path for solid and profitable growth against our 2028 targets. So let me walk you through our 4 key messages for today. First, we exceeded our outlook for Q2 with solid growth and improved profitability. Net sales rose 7% to $534 million with 6% growth at constant exchange rates. Core sales are a more important metric for QIAGEN since they exclude discontinued products like NeuMoDx and DIALUNOX. Those sales also grew 6% CER over the same period in 2024. Adjusted diluted EPS was $0.60 and $0.62 at CER, ahead of our target and driven by the strong improvements in operational profitability. Second key message, our growth pillars performed strongly. QIAstat grew 41% at CER. This was driven by strong instrument placements that once again, exceeded our quarterly goal of at least 150 systems. We continue to see solid demand across all regions and benefits from our menu expansion initiatives for syndromic testing. QuantiFERON grew 11% CER supported by solid gains in the Americas but also in EMEA as we maintain momentum in driving conversion of latent TB testing for the traditional skin test. Let us remember that around 60% of the global market still relies on the skin test, and this underscores the significant remaining potential for conversion. QIAcuity, our digital PCR platform…

Thank you, Thierry, and hello, everyone. We delivered strong financial results in the second quarter of 2025. Our profitability continued to improve, supported by disciplined execution and a clear focus on operational efficiencies. Let me take you through the key financial highlights now. First, we achieved another increase in our adjusted operating income margin. It rose to 29.9% of sales, up 1.5 percentage points from the same quarter last year. This improvement was driven by several factors. First and foremost, the efficiency initiative launched in 2024. This included the decision to discontinue NeuMoDx, which more than offset the adverse impact from currency movements against U.S. dollar and the new tariffs. Cost discipline across the organization played an important role. We have also maintained our focus on investing in growth and innovation. Based on the solid results for the first half of '25, we are tracking toward an adjusted operating income margin of about 30% for '25. Compared to '23, this would represent about 300 basis points of margin improvement, which underscores the scalability and strength of our operating model. Second, we delivered strong cash flow in the first half of '25 while absorbing cash payments for the efficiency program and portfolio decisions. Net cash from operating activities was USD 301 million, unchanged from the first half of '24. This reflected the solid business expansion and benefits from tighter working capital management. Our balance sheet remains very strong, giving us flexibility to invest in innovation, pursue targeted M&A and continue returning capital to shareholders. This year, we have already returned over $350 million to shareholders through the $300 million share repurchase program in January and the $54 million of dividend paid in July. Let me now walk you through some additional details on our sales performance in the quarter. Starting with…

So in addition to executing on sales and profitability, we also execute on research and development. So, let's now take a quick look at progresses across our product portfolio, starting with sample technologies where we continue to advance our next wave of automation. We are making indeed steady progress on 3 new instruments. And I'm very pleased to report that we are perfectly on track, on budget, specification and timing for QIAsymphony Connect, QIAmini and QIAsprint Connect. Those systems are designed to deliver flexible throughput, improve automation and enhance digital connectivity across both clinical and research applications. The first of them, QIAsymphony Connect is on track for a controlled launch towards the end of 2025. This platform strengthens our position in high-value application such as liquid biopsy offering expanded capabilities and improved connectivity. QIAmini and QIAsprint Connect are planned for H1 2026, Together, those platforms will expand our installed base and address a broader range of customer needs with scalable, innovative sample preparation solution. Early field test for QIAsprint Connect and early feedback from pharma companies have been extremely successful, and we are seeing strong interest in this high throughput system, reflecting broader customer demand for next-generation automation. Second, QIAstat-Dx, our syndromic testing platform has a growing footprint worldwide. As you know, we are now offering a broad menu of FDA-cleared syndromic panels across respiratory, gastrointestinal and meningitis target. This includes 3 mini panels tailored for outpatient settings, helping to address reimbursement challenges, specifically in North America. The strength of our assay portfolio has driven strong instrument placement. And in the first half of 2025 for example, we placed more QIAstat system in North America than in whole of 2024. With those developments, QIAstat continues to build momentum as a flexible and fast-growing solution in the syndromic testing market. Turning…

Thank you, Thierry. Let me now provide some more perspectives on our outlook for '25 and the third quarter. Our ambition remains clear to deliver another year of solid profitable growth and continued improvement in operational efficiencies. We have upgraded our full year '25 outlook for total net sales to grow about 4% to 5% at constant exchange rates, up from the prior target of 4% growth. More important is that we have also increased our target for growth in our core portfolio that excludes revenues from discontinued products. These core sales are now expected to grow about 5% to 6% CER up from the prior target of 5%. Let me point out that you will see a stronger difference between total and core sales in the second half of '25, given the discontinuation of NeuMoDx and DIALUNOX in June. So this represents about $20 million of headwind from the sales of these products in the second half of '24 that have been discontinued during the first half of '25. On adjusted earnings per share, we continue to expect results of about $2.35 at CER. We are increasing profitability ahead of sales as we see benefits from continuous contributions and efficiencies with a more stable favorable tax rate while also absorbing the impact of new tariffs. For full year '25, we anticipate tariffs to create a relative headwind of about 90 basis points on the adjusted gross margin as we are continuing to increase our mitigation strategy. We have taken a realistic view on growth for the second half of 25%, just as we did in the first half, reflecting the current macroeconomic environment. At the same time, we continue to see opportunities to deliver results above our targets. For the third quarter of '25, we are targeting at least 4% CER growth in total net sales and a faster rate at least 5% CER growth in the core portfolio. Adjusted EPS is expected to be at least $0.58 at constant exchange rates. As we look at the currency market trends, we expect a positive impact of about 1 percentage point on full year net sales but an adverse impact of about $0.02 on adjusted EPS given the headwinds in the first half of this year. For Q3, Currency is expected to have a positive impact of up to 1 percentage point on net sales, but be neutral on adjusted EPS. So in closing, we have now upgraded our initial sales and adjusted EPS targets for '25 and are committed to delivering on these goals as a foundation for further solid profitable growth in 2016 and the coming years. With that, I'll now hand it back to Thierry.

Thank you, Roland. So we are coming to the end of our presentation. And before your questions, let me briefly summarize the key messages for the second quarter of First, we delivered another solid clean quarter of results that were again above our outlook for both net sales and adjusted earnings. In fact, our sales growth is among the highest in the industry. Second, our growth pillars are driving momentum across our portfolio from diagnostic to life science and across the world, we are addressing critical customer demand in highly attractive and growing market. Third, based on the solid trends in the first half, we have upgraded our full year '25 net sales outlook based on the strong start of the year and we have also confirmed our adjusted EPS target following our increase in April. Fourth, we are advancing our capital allocation that balance investments in QIAGEN with increasing shareholders' returns. At the same time, we continue to invest organically into the business in terms of innovation, digital infrastructure and targeted M&A deals. So in closing, we are moving into the second half of the year from a position of strength. Quarter by quarter, year after year, we are building long-term value for our shareholders, and we still are determined to achieve our ambitions for solid profitable growth. And before ending the call, I want to let you know that we will be having another virtual deep dive session this year, highlighting this time our growth pillar sample technology. We continue to receive excellent feedback on our 2 previous deep dives on QDI, if you remember last year in December and QuantiFERON, and we want to keep that very accurate short and winning format going. With that, thanks a lot for your attention. And I'd now like to hand back to John and the operator for the Q&A session.

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Luke Sergott with Barclays.

This is Salem Salem on for Luke Sergott. Just one on the quarterly dynamics. In 3Q, you're lapping a tougher comp compared to the first half, so what's really driving the confidence in the guide from a visibility perspective? And then the 4Q guide seems to step down just a little bit to the 2-ish percent range on a CER growth basis. Anything that is worth calling out there on the perceived deceleration? Or is that sort of a risk-adjusted based on visibility 2 quarters ahead?

So thanks, Luke. And that's a fair question. First of all, we are coming already from a quite high growth. So obviously, increasing based on that high growth, again, the guidance for the year is quite a performance. Second, we continue to operate in a very volatile environment. I strongly believe that the question of tariff is not completely sold. So it's still volatile. So we remain realistic but also ambitious. Last, do not forget, as Roland started to allude it to that what is interesting to look at, especially in Q4, will be the core growth rate. Because in Q4, especially, you will see that the impact of the discontinuation last year of NeuMoDx and DIALUNOX onto this year is going to become important. Roland, would you have to add something to that?

Yes. Thank you, Thierry. No, I think the one thing to hear that as well. I don't think there's -- you will not hear from Thierry and me today that there is any particular reason why Q4 should be in any way significantly different than Q3 in terms of growth rates, I'm not sure, again, as I said, focus on the core growth rate and then you see it is not a significant difference from today's perspective.

We'll go next to Aisyah Noor with Morgan Stanley.

Just on QIAstat. Could you unpack the 41% growth a little bit. How much was flu-related respiratory demand versus new pull-through on the GI and ME panels and versus new account wins in the U.S. And I'll ask my follow-up as well to this, which is, are you able to disclose the install base for QIAstat as of the latest quarter?

So thanks, Aisyah, for your question. So if you remember, the specificities of this market for syndromic. More than 70% of the market is made of respiratory. So respiratory remains the main test driving that growth and that performance. But from a purely percentage, even if the base is lower, we are extremely pleased with the growth of testing on GI and now also meningitis specifically in Europe, and starting in the U.S. We start also in that 41% to see the impact of the mini panels in the U.S. You remember that we are a unique company in the sense that we can offer both large panels and also many panels. Fourth, there is also a good impact of capital sales and placement in those numbers. As we have said, First of all, we are way ahead of our quarterly objective of 150 systems. And as we said today, if you just take the example of the U.S. in H1 of 2025. We put more system, more QIAstat on the market than in the full year of '24. So it's basically what is driving this performance. I'd like to finish by saying as well that even if QIAstat is the only syndromic system, which has been endorsed by pharma company, for companion diagnostics, there is no influence of companion diagnostic in the growth of H1 and the growth of Q2. It's purely testing and instrument placement performance.

We'll go next to Jan Koch with Deutsche Bank.

My first question is on your product group other. Could you remind us of what is included here? And could you quantify the revenue from the discontinued system within that line in H1? And should we expect a return to a more normalized growth rate from Q3 onwards? And then secondly, a follow-up on QIAstat-Dx. Could you speak a bit about the regional breakdown of that growth we have seen in Q2?

I will let Roland answer for other and the discontinuation. But remember that in previous calls, we gave you the numbers for what was, for example, NeuMoDx in H1 of this year. By the way, NeuMoDx is fully discontinued as of June '25. We closed the termination of this instrument. Roland, for this first question on the quantification and other, and then I will come back to you with QIAstat split geography.

Yes. I think overall, as we said, we're clearly going to stop it down. And we had also I think in the first half were both combined is probably around $20 million, also the delta compared to last year is also a $20 million number. So it is a sizable impact for us. That's the reason why we, again, focus on the overall impact in terms of core growth rates and focus on the core numbers because that is real apple-to-apple. On your second question on what is other? It is a mix of several factors. Therefore, it's other. It is starting from freight reimbursements. It has also to do, of course, with certain reallocations we get from the freight all the way down to certain onetime deals we do with certain customer groups. It's a bit more bumpy.

Thank you, Roland. And for the geography split of QIAstat, so pleased to report that all the regions are benefiting and contributing to this growth. Europe despite the strong market share that we have is growing double digit. North America is accelerating. We have fully reorganized the leadership, the team with fully specialized people on the field now. And what we find interesting, Jan, to your question as well, is that we see countries that are becoming quite significant in terms of revenues in some emerging areas. I would give you a couple of examples. South Africa, for example, Saudi or part of Middle East, where we have significant market shares. So this is a bit the geographic contribution.

We'll go next to Tycho Peterson with Jefferies.

I want to probe on maybe just your views on QIAcuity for the back half of the year. Keeping in mind your target for 600 to 1,000 systems this year. Can you just talk about expectations for the back half of the year, how you're feeling about kind of pharma uptake? And then thoughts on competitive dynamics. Your main competitor did an acquisition of Stilla. They have some new launches and are targeting kind of the lower end of the market, with improved automation complexity. So just curious how you feel about competitive dynamics. And then before I jump off, just one clarification. Did you lower the target for QDI from $200 million to $240 million by '28? I think I heard that.

So Tycho, thanks a lot for the question. We did not review any target that we gave for 2028, not for QDI or not for any other portfolio priorities. Second, on the back end of H2 for QIAcuity. On one hand, we are confident that we can achieve our targets because when you look at the number of instruments we have to achieve in H2 compared to what we put on the market in H2 of 2024, it is very comparable. So we did it in '24. I see no reason not to do it in '25. Of course, as we always said, we operate in an environment where there is cautious capital expense spending especially in research and academia lab. But against that headwind, we believe that we can achieve our target. Now increase or renewed competition, we welcome that, Tycho. First of all, for us, it proves that this is a very attractive and dynamic market. We believe that, that market is still growing at double digit. The fundamentals of our competitive positioning have not changed. Simpler system to use, much more automated than any competition and greater cost of ownerships. This has not changed. We fully acknowledge that Bio-Rad has made an acquisition. We fully respect Bio-Rad. I don't think that the market shares of Stilla were basically disruptive of what's going to be basically a competition between our two companies. This being said, I have said many times that I believe that this system, the quality of QIAcuity deserve to become the #1 in digital PCR and I still hold to that statement that we will become #1 in that market.

We'll take our next question from Harry Gillis with Berenberg.

You talked about the very encouraging feedback for your new instruments in sample technologies. Could you provide some more color on how we should think about the trajectory of their contribution to revenue growth over the next few years? And then related to that, just wondering if you're still seeing any deferrals of orders in sample technologies ahead of these launches. I'm asking because the sort of flat instrument growth this quarter looks like a sequential improvement versus last quarter. So just trying to piece together the different moving parts here.

That's a fair question. And you are right. Why are we confident? Because our strategy that we have reaffirmed in our Capital Market Day last year is to invest in automation for sample tech. And if you look at Q2 results, we see automated consumables growing around mid-single digit. This is very encouraging. Of course, this happens once again, in an environment where capital expenses, especially in the area of academia and life science are depressed. Nonetheless, being able to grow positively in Q2 on automated sample tech is encouraging. Now in addition to that, we are coming with 3 new systems. No other company on the market active in sample tech has this kind of investment and innovation. So, impact on our numbers have been described in our Capital Market Day last year, we said that our ambitions by 2028, will be to grow to $650 million revenue for sample tech, which will give us 2% to 3% CAGR until then, and this will mainly come from those instruments.

We'll go next to Dan Leonard with UBS.

Thierry, you talked about continued automation efforts with QuantiFERON and said, stay tuned. What are you alluding to? Are you able to broaden your partnerships and automation beyond DiaSorin? Or is there any contractual exclusivity that would prevent you from doing so?

Well, we are very happy with our partnership with QuantiFERON. We repeated that a lot. The situation works very well. We see no need at the moment for adding necessarily other partners but that doesn't prevent us from continuing to invest on the test. How do you invest on the test? One, you make it simpler to use. Second, you increase the potential throughput of the kit. This is 2 things we are working on. And by the way, together also with DiaSorin. It's a bit early to give you all the details. But in the coming, let's say, 2 quarters, you'll know more. Third, as you know, we are also developing a new QuantiFERON for emerging countries. We call it the QIAreach. This is due to be launched around 2027, we are still on track. So this is the way. It's not necessarily adding a new partner. The partnership with DiaSorin works very well. is making the test even better, quicker, able to spend more volumes and easier to use.

We'll go next to Jack Meehan with Nephron.

I wanted to talk about the operating margin forecast for the year. Just like a slightly lower at approximately 30% for the year. Can you just talk about tariff assumptions, FX versus like kind of operational factors, how things are looking through the year?

Yes. Jack, as I said on the call, for the [indiscernible] I do think we had a very good one also in the second quarter, and we do not expect it to be in any way different in the second half of the year, we improved 150 basis points in the second quarter, ex currencies and I do think, while absorbing headwind from tariffs. As you know, we said that a couple of times for 2025, we feel very comfortable that it doesn't change our absolute numbers. There's a lot of mitigation underway, again, from changing our internal supply ways to the way we produce, discussion with suppliers to way we distribute transfer pricing all the way to sharing with customers. Nevertheless, relatively, of course, it has an impact because. Again, if you pay a certain tariff amount and of course, we do comply with the laws and the far paying tariffs as well. And you only get reimbursed to a certain extent, it has a relative impact, not necessarily absolute down to EPS. So long story short, we do believe that probably for this year, it is around about a 90 basis point impact. We still continue to see even more mitigation coming in, so it might be a bit better, but of course, you see that has an impact. So I would say right now, we are aiming to the 30%. We might be there. We might be a tick lower than that. Nevertheless, there a significant improvement. Absolute dollar-wise, EPS-wise, is still very strong, very happy with the $2.35, which is out there. I think one more comment to one of the questions I heard before. One second because I don't think that I answered it before correctly. I think one thing what I do think is important to stress as well. If you look on the 5 pillars of growth, the combined goal for this year, as you know, is a combined $1.49 million. We feel very well on our way to make and probably even beat that number as well.

We'll go next to Doug Schenkel with Wolfe Research.

Two topics. First, on M&A. Given the strength of the business, the strength of the balance sheet, your cash flow. How are you thinking about the M&A funnel as we sit here today? And what are the parameters that we should expect you're applying as you look at potential deals. So that's the first topic. The second is on margins. You're clearly trending ahead of the LRP targets for '28 that you laid out at the Investor Day. Where are you seeing the most upside to initiatives pursuant to margin improvement? And how should we think about the sustainability of those trends?

Thank you, Doug. We can take that question, the two of us with Roland. First of all, on M&A, we do not change our approach. We are used to do successful bolt-on acquisition. Genoox is the latest example. Our pipeline for interesting opportunities from now to the coming months is extremely solid. The criterias. First of all, it has to be synergistic with our growth priorities and pillars of growth. this company has been heavily focusing over the last 6 years. We are not going to use M&A to spread the company thin again. So focus and synergies with where we are currently with customers to allow us to take more share of wallet at customers is key. Second, those deals needs to make financial sense for the company and therefore, create value for our shareholders. In other words, we have the strength to accept some dilution for some time, I would say, 2 years up to maximum 3 years, but we see and we need to see a clear pathway to accretion and profitability. Those are the 2 main criteria. And on the gross margin, you remember that -- and in the EBIT margin, in the LRP, we presented a clear pathway and waterfall of where we were acting to improve that target of 31%. So Roland can describe where we believe we have more upside.

Yes. And I think it's very clear also presenting here now from today's number that we are clearly tracking well ahead of that. Nevertheless, we clearly also are in an environment where the macroeconomics gets more difficult to forecast. Therefore, as you know, we decided not only for this year, but also probably last year, it served us quite well to rather take a realistic view on the environment, giving us some flexibility so that we, I would say, can deliver on the numbers as we promise and hopefully come in as we did now a couple of times, even nicely better, so we haven't changed our policy around that now moving into the second half. Nevertheless, I do think what is going to drive us and help us also north of '26 into the more or less '28 environment is on the one hand side, our digital initiatives. We are rolling out quite a number of digital initiatives within QIAGEN, but also facing and customer- facing. Also, there's a good set of AI opportunities for us. So there is, I would say, quite a number of AI initiatives, which might make a difference for us as well. There's clearly still certain smaller footprint optimizations possible within QIAGEN. You have seen some already coming through. So that's ongoing. Scale comes by in brackets by itself. So I do think the margin inspection is for us rather the question is when to communicate not necessarily how to achieve that. And if you would ask me today, what is the most likely framework. I would probably say, okay, early next year, we have to give a guidance for the year. That's probably the latest point. I would say if some of the macro environment challenges get addressed to a high degree, even earlier, that might be also a good point then in the, I don't know, third or fourth quarter. It is within that period, it is very much driven on macro news and once we have that out of the way.

We'll take our next question from Hugo Solvet with BNP Paribas.

Congrats on the quarter given how tough it is out there for a lot of people. So just on NIH, could you discuss how NIH account evolved in Q2 and share maybe some early feedback on academia and life science customers following Congress vote last week and whether or not you believe that more significant budget flush in life science is something that could happen upon improving visibility?

Thank you, Hugo, for the question. So as we keep saying for the last, I think, now probably 2 quarters, it's interesting to note that the direct sales of QIAGEN to agencies like NIH or the CDC are doing well. We are not impacted at the moment by so-called budget cuts. It is probably because, first of all, what they are using from QIAGEN are not big, big capital expense or budget. So I believe that we are probably below the radar screen when it comes to cuts and also because as they use mainly a lot of components like enzyme, oligos or sample prep, it's very difficult to substitute those products. Nonetheless, we are observing carefully the situation, and it's clear that if those sales direct to NIH and CDCs are not impacted, we are in a quite sluggish context in research and academia, especially on capital sales. I wouldn't say for everything, but for capital sales, we have said that many times. Now coming to what happened to the Congress recommendation and vote last week. I think it's still early to say. I think it's also fair to insist that at the moment in the U.S., there is one main decision-maker and that decision maker is the President. So let's observe what's going to happen in the coming negotiation. QIAGEN will probably budget -- decrease budget for NIH next year. But we also believe that the cuts will probably be less drastic than what was rumored a month or 2 months ago. So long story short, probably still a decrease in '26, probably to a lesser magnitude than what was said some time ago, but let's remain cautious and observed.

We'll take our next question from Dan Brennan with TD Cowen.

Maybe just one just on the guide. I know it was asked earlier, and Thierry, you just kind of mentioned it, but given the fourth quarter guide does imply that like kind of flattish core growth. Like are you seeing anything today that would suggest it? Or is it just pure conservatism on that front? And then could you just give us what the breakout is for the discontinued product, like how much that's contributing to core growth in the back half of the year? And then the final point, I know Roland, you talked about you feel the guide is conservative, just kind of if you look at your 5 pillar guidance, which you've kind of maintained, what -- which area would you point to as the most conservative?

Well, Dan, I appreciate your stamina and push a lot, but I mean, I don't think that I heard Roland speaking about conservatism. Realism, I think, is the terminology used and we are already performing better than the market. In addition to that, we are increasing our sales guidance for the year. So it's very solid. Obviously, if we can beat that, you'll be the first to know. And again, in Q4, where I will focus is the core growth because in Q4, this is where also we might have a better base impact from NeuMoDx and DIALUNOX. And so this is where probably the divergence between the total growth and the core growth will be higher. And I don't think that we said that it would be flattish for core growth in Q4. Not at all. This is not in our new guidance.

Yes. On your question, Dan, on the details for the 5 pillars of growth and I think you're absolutely right. We feel very comfortable that we're going to deliver as promised, the 14%, 19% for an aggregate. I think it's also quite obvious to see that some of them are doing very well. We talked today at length on QIAstat and QuantiFERON, and it is not hard to predict that both probably do somewhat better than predicted. I think it's also very clear to say that QIAcuity on the one hand side has very good positive growth rate in terms of consumables. But I think Thierry also alluded on the call, the instrumentation environment in the life science remains probably somewhat challenging. So that might come in probably close by, might be a bit lower. We will see that. But all in, we are above that. On the others, I think they are more or less on target. So I would say that is probably the -- if you're looking for a trade-off, which is probably a positive trade-off, that it's a trade-off we are probably most likely going to face.

We'll go to Michael Ryskin with Bank of America.

I've got 2. I'll just ask them both together. One, I think in the prepared remarks, you guys flagged China was down, I want to say mid- teens. If you could just segment or product line, sort of your expectations in China for the rest of the year? And then second would be the earnings season, I think it's obligatory for someone to ask if there was a pull forward or not, and I didn't hear that. So if you could just comment on any indications from any of your customers of stocking, any unusual timing on purchasing decisions, just given concerns on tariffs and other things down the road, just confidence that there's no weird ordering patterns.

Thanks, Michael. And we lost you for something like 5 or 6 seconds. So I believe I got your question on China, especially in which field we were believing that it was more depressed or not. So China for us, we haven't changed our mind. We don't see the market bouncing back at least before the second half of 2026. It is now less than 4% of our revenues. We know that the local government is trying to help the market by proving some incentives, for example, on capital expenses. At the same time, they continue also to push international company to localize and it's also the VBP program. So I would keep the same attitude for China. It's too big of a market to be ignored, it's too specific to make it an investment priority. We see China being negative to the end of the year in the same basically percentage than H1. We don't see it really bouncing back in 2026. And as we always said, even when China will stabilize and normalize, we will not expect more than single -- mid-single-digit growth from this country when it will normalize. That's our plan for China. For your question on QIAstat, no, there is absolutely no pool or inventory building from a customer ahead of the respiratory testing season. It's too early to say that it's going to be or it might be a strong respiratory season this year. We are observing what is happening, for example, in geographies like New Zealand, Australia and so on. But there is absolutely no -- not normal built on the numbers at 41% growth for Q2.

We will take our last question from Casey Woodring with JPMorgan.

So I have 2 as well. The first one is just from a regional perspective. I think you said Europe grew 8%, but sample tech in EMEA was down low singles. So just curious on the dynamics at play in Europe across the business? And then on QDI, how should we think about the back half and the cadence between 3Q and 4Q with the SaaS transition? And can you just remind us what the exposure is between clinical and research customers there? It seems like clinical is clearly doing well, while research is seeing some pressure in the market. So any color on those pieces?

So for sample tech, once again, EMEA is also contributing to the growth for automated solution. That's what I would highlight for this call, and this is where our strategy is, if that answers your questions. For QDI, the split life science or what we call discovery for QDI and clinical is still slightly in favor of discovery but we are moving progressively to 50%, 50% split of sales or remarkably well balanced split between clinical and research and academia. And for the split of transition to [ DSIS ], I mean it varies a bit quarter-by-quarter because sometimes those are deals that are signed for a longer period. So you saw that we accelerate that transition in Q1. It slowed down a bit in Q2 and we expect basically a continuous move now in Q3 and Q4.

So with that, we're going to end the call here. Thank you very much for your participation. If you have any questions or comments, please do not hesitate to reach out to Domenica and me. Thank you very much.

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the conference call. Thank you for joining, and have a pleasant day. Goodbye.