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Papa John's International, Inc. (PZZA)

Q2 2024 Earnings Call· Thu, Aug 8, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Papa John's Second Quarter 2024 Conference Call and Webcast. [Operator Instructions]. I would now like to turn the conference over to your speaker today, Stacie Shirley, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Stacy Frole

Analyst

Good morning, and welcome to our second quarter 2024 earnings conference call. This morning, we issued our second quarter earnings release. A copy of the release can be obtained on our Investor Relations website at ir dot Papa John's.com under the News Releases tab or by contacting our Investor Relations department at investor underscore relations at Papa John's.com. Joining me on the call this morning are Todd Penegor, our President and Chief Executive Officer, and Roddie data Waller, our Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I need to remind you that comments made during this call will include forward looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. These statements may involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from these statements are forward-looking statements should be considered in conjunction with the cautionary statements in our earnings release and the risk factors included in our SEC filings. In addition, please refer to our earnings release for the required reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures discussed on today's call. Lastly, let me thank you in advance for asking only one question and getting back in the queue for more follow-ups. And now let me turn the call over to Todd.

Todd Penegor

Analyst

Thank you, Stacy, and good morning, everyone. I am honored to be with you today. As I begin, this journey is to seal. Papa John's brand is synonymous with delivering the best pizza in the industry, and I am excited to learn from and work with our Board, Ravi team members and our franchise community to build on this legacy. As we move forward together, our number one priority will be to create great experiences for our customers and employees in our restaurants, while also ensuring the restaurant economic model is very strong. My immersion into the culture is well underway. We have a passionate team, a system committed to ensuring we become the best Papa John's we can be fitting with the pizza business. You'll hear some of this from Ravi today because they have begun to share with our organization, I believe in winning as a team and will be collaborative yet quick and decisive. As we focus on growing this premium QSR brands together, we need to move quickly to build on our strengths and execute today as we evolve to be even better tomorrow. I've enjoyed talking with our stakeholders this past week and look forward to meeting you all in the coming months and updating you on our progress. Ravi, I'm going to turn the call over to you discuss the current state of the business and our second quarter results. But before I do, I want to give you my sincerest thanks for the work you have done over the past five months to lead this organization through this transition period. We are deeply grateful for your leadership and dedication to Papa John's. Thank you, Ravi.

Ravi Thanawala

Analyst

Thank you, Todd, and welcome to Papa John's. It has been a pleasure getting to know you over the past few weeks. I look forward to partnering with you as we almost the full potential of Papa John's and together continue to create value for our stakeholders. Turning to our results. As you read in our earnings release this morning that the challenging sales trends we experienced in the first quarter within our North America restaurants have persisted into the second quarter. Our core product pizza and the quality of our brand remains to ban the macro environment control used to be challenging as consumers pulled back on their spend and increased refocus our value. Despite these challenges, I'm very proud of the team's discipline in managing the P&L, which helped to completely offset the softer sales in the second quarter. On today's call, we'll provide context for our results and highlight the decisive actions we are taking to sharpen our focus, improved unit economics, drive unit development and provide an excellent consumer experience in the second quarter of 2024. North America comparable sales were down approximately 4% from a year ago, similar to our first quarter. This was primarily driven by lower transactions as continued growth in our aggregator channel was more than offset by a decline in our organic delivery and to a lower estimate this year over year shift in channel mix created an approximate 100 basis points headwind to our comparable sales in the third quarter, driven by the relatively profit neutral impact of reduced delivery fees. And while sales were solid with customers buying two or more pieces, we saw lower transactions in our lower ticket items. In this current economic cycle, consumers have become more deliberate in managing their overall ticket and are showing…

Todd Penegor

Analyst

Thank you, Ravi. In summary, we are pleased with our improved restaurant level margins and profitability in the second quarter, which completely offset the sales shortfall for the quarter. Our brand and core product remain in demand and the highly competitive pizza category. But we know there's more work to be done to realize the full potential of the Papa John's brand. We are sharpening our focus, investing in digital and accelerating development through improved economics. We are also evolving our marketing to ensure we meet the consumer tumors value expectations by prioritizing customer experience. Franchisee success and operational excellence are confident and Papa John's continued growth and value creation. I am excited to be part of a culture where people feel empowered, valued and appreciated to be their very best. I also look forward to building a strong and collaborative partnership with our franchisees and help to attract new franchisees to Papa John's to build an even stronger brand. Our team here at Papa. John's is set up an aggressive plan to immerse me in the business over the next several months. My plan is to come back to all of you, and we are ready to discuss our amplifier, differentiated position and unlock future value for Papa John's and all of our stakeholders. At this point, we'd like to open the call for any questions you may have. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from the line of Jim Salera with Stephens, Inc.

Jim Salera

Analyst

As mentioned in your question on timing in Ravi, I wanted to dig into the trends in the 3Q, Neil. Rob, you mentioned in the first four weeks down 6%. It seems like kind of holding that trend through 3Q. Is there a reason that we should and expect maybe a little incremental lift in 3Q just given some of the innovation you have more medium behind the Papa pairings kind of headwind, marketing automation for some of your value offerings?

Ravi Thanawala

Analyst

Morning, gentlemen, and thanks for the question. As I showed up, we're really focused on three things to continue to drive the long-term run rate of the business improvement versus like, as you talked about, improving the value perception. And that is by bringing pop-up earnings and our New York Style, which are both great, fantastic price points fund centered in the business. This up to I hope you have the app downloaded and seeing how we risk in the digital experience. And we're really excited about those two elements of the business. But what we'd say is that what we're seeing in the consumer data is that the consumer is more value focused right now. So we're trying to take a really balanced perspective in terms of the second half for the year, making sure we're finding that our full balance of sales, comps, focus, transaction trends focused as well as unit economics. And I think that more broadly, we're excited to continue to test in the market. I could couple of new ideas which we think are going to help the business for the long term.

Jim Salera

Analyst

Okay. Now if I can follow up on the digital piece up, some of your competitors have seen frequency growth after making tweaks to the royalty structures of their digital offerings, particularly lowering the threshold to redeem for items rather than saving up for revisions or something at a multiple business, you can get loans maturing tubing sources. Is that maybe something that we could see in the near term in the back half of the year that could add some incremental value and maybe provide a lift alongside on the other market activation you guys are going on Seelan Pop Idol and to get to that $75 threshold on on average that. So that's three visits from our consumer base and our average consumer only comes four times a year. So the ability to actually start to earn rewards quicker to get far more active in the app on to drive frequency and get them to retire more often is a big opportunity. We'll work through that in it and in short order to make sure we can bring that to life. The great news is that spend on the road map for the team, and we know it's a big opportunity for us guys. Maybe talk about maybe the only other thing I'd add to those conversations.

Todd Penegor

Analyst

Jim, as like up like Todd's, I've been here for all of a week and now we've had a number of great sessions with them of you that we came out the gate right away. We talk about innovation second, making sure we were talking about our digital experience. And third, making sure our loyalty strategy was front and center and fund the entire because we are strong believers that getting consumers into our app, they drive higher frequency. We think it's stickier.

Ravi Thanawala

Analyst

And to David's point, like we believe that in this value-conscious world that we're living in driving stronger or immediate gratification, that could be some real fruit for the for our franchisees in the business and also continue to drive folks into 1P, which is very important project owners all the best one.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Sara Senatore with Bank of America. Your line is now open.

Sara Senatore

Analyst · Bank of America. Your line is now open.

Great. Thank you very much. A question that gets me the two-part question. First parties, you're seeing a lot of improvement in kind of underlying consumer metrics, value proposition, brand awareness and service speed. And how long should it take for that to translate into and transaction growth? I guess my thought one thing that you had said this is that kind of three times a year, but typically speaking, I guess I would have expected to see some improvement in June versus what we saw in it, particularly in the quarter into July, and we're not really seen that. So just trying to understand how long it takes for these kinds of initiatives, there are improvements to translate. And then and related to that, you now and I know you've been testing some value actions in your restaurants already and that again and you didn't really see any difference in that comp trajectory for Company-operated versus the broader system. So I'm wondering how you get these initiatives? Correct me. I guess it's fundamentally a question and how long should it take while several.

Todd Penegor

Analyst · Bank of America. Your line is now open.

I'll start on system with a strong value message. And the great news is the team has made those adjustments. As you think about New York Style extra-large at 1099. That's great value. You think about Papa pairings of six 99. That's great value. We just need to continue to be out there with the appropriate pressure on both nationally and locally to make sure that the consumer understands there is great value time and again, from Papa John's on and that will build over time. So we've got to work towards that. I'll turn it over to Ravi to talk about the test, some exciting. We've got some good tests underway in the Company restaurants, but just a little too early to have all of the learnings. But Ravi, why don't you talk a little a bit more about that?

Ravi Thanawala

Analyst · Bank of America. Your line is now open.

Yes. So first, just on your question around progression throughout the quarter on the I'll remind you on that is kind of the underlying or the baseline comp trend from the prior year. We did see sequential improvement in terms of the comp run rate as we progress through the quarter. And we see that fairly directly correlated with us improving the value perception again for we're comping in Q three plus three from the prior year. So you can see the progression on a two year stack of from a testing standpoint in markets. What we're really focused in on is making sure we are taking actions that improve repeat rate, which is another code word for long-term gains and frequency to making sure that we're finding a really healthy balance of getting consumers into our 1P channel, buying the products that differentiate us. And third, we're really focused on making sure we're fine there. That our full balance of our premium product proposition. But how do we continue to be very successful in these more value-conscious moments in time. So we don't want to share two-inch vehicle out. We're taking a highly disciplined approach to underwriting and operating the business and making sure we're making the right investments, the business to improve our both our digital experience and our value proposition, which should help overtime bend the curve on sales comp and do it in a way that is going to deliver strong unit economics for our franchisees.

Todd Penegor

Analyst · Bank of America. Your line is now open.

And the focus of our programs immediately Saracen, we have to get folks to show up more often at Papa John's, and we're really trying to make sure that we drive transactions and get folks into the restaurant. We know if we have them show up overtime, we can train them up across the menu in all. I'm trying to make sure we do that in partnership with the franchise community in concert with the restaurant economic model teams work. And that's planned really hard. And I do feel like we've got some solid plans in place to start to build some momentum over the course of last year, notwithstanding the comps from you ago that Ravi just talked about, but really starting to set up a really strong plan as we go into next year.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Peter Saleh with BTIG. Your line is now open.

Peter Saleh

Analyst · BTIG. Your line is now open.

Great. Thanks for taking the question. I didn't want to ask about the development costs. It sounds like you guys made some progress on reducing some of the costs, which were, I think well above where you wanted them to be aware, the franchisees land the. So can you maybe elaborate a little bit on what you're seeing being on development costs, maybe in the most recent build on? And if you did see some reduction in those costs, where exactly are you seeing the savings recently?

Ravi Thanawala

Analyst · BTIG. Your line is now open.

Thanks to the collaboration and NAM, I think what you're adding on is exactly the right topics for us. A ton of unpack is like, first, we're taking a highly disciplined approach to how we are engineering development costs. And what I shared at the Q1 call, like we had thrilling architectural designs to ensure that we're building a box that is highly effective sports service, but it is cost effective to we've been out there for carrying our new deals with our general contractors, which is absolutely delivering some benefits. And three, it is really a focus on making sure we have the right optionality in terms of furniture fixtures and across all three of these elements, which are the three critical elements, the Bells, we're seeing progress and we shared with our franchisees just in the last month or so, another wave of cost savings will be able to deliver results. I think it's a little bit too early for me to share a specific number, but I can definitely tell you is that our costs are coming down year over year and our bills that I don't want to get too specific on that just yet. But I want or kind of reaffirm to you all, as I said in the prepared remarks, that what I'm hearing from our larger deals developing franchisees is that their build costs are coming in much more in line with industry norms. And we think that this is another example of how we're improving the unit economic model as we are delivering better restaurant margins, bringing down buildout costs. We believe that both of these these are critical elements that drive gains. And I look forward to updating you in future calls on the progress we're making on what the net debt development.

Todd Penegor

Analyst · BTIG. Your line is now open.

And I've been pleased to see the work underway on a lot of the value engineering. And I know we're making a lot of progress and committed to making that progress very quick. And in the interim, we'll look to make sure we've got the right incentive plans place to bridge the gap until we get those costs in line to make sure we're continuing to put shovels in the ground to get new restaurants opened in and build a really strong pipeline into the future.

Peter Saleh

Analyst · BTIG. Your line is now open.

Understood. And then just, Todd, you know, I think you mentioned potentially no major changes to the rewards program to allow customers. Just trying to understand how heavy unless this is this something that can happen in the second half of '24, or is this more of a 2025 of the events?

Todd Penegor

Analyst · BTIG. Your line is now open.

Yes, that is so new into the role, Peter, to CRM. And to be fair to my technology team, I think it takes a little bit of time. We've got a little bit of work to do to one optimize what that program truly looks like and then to work through the internal on of technology work to make sure the platform set yourself up to deliver on that front. Thomas, seamless and very easy for the consumer. I know some of the work has already started. So you'll have Ravi comment if he has anything more to add.

Ravi Thanawala

Analyst · BTIG. Your line is now open.

Yes, of course, we're not taking a waterfall approach to how we how we evolve our digital platforms like we are acting in a really agile ways of fuel. As you look at our recent up update on one of the simple but important changes that we made is that we put loyalty rewards front and center for the consumers. As soon as you get to the homepage, it immediately tells you if you have value and NAM can redeem. So Papa does something that's one example in seconds, is constantly working its digital road map in terms of feature updates. So we're going to make. So as I think about how we create more value for the consumer from a loyalty program, one is the mechanics of the actual programs to it's the natural things that great digital companies to to elevate for the consumer, how they can earn and redeem rewards. And one of the last ones I just wanted to share of that is in the recent update, we make deals much more front and center for our consumers. Actually no change from like pure promotion standpoint. But and how we were showcasing our deals, simplifying navigation has increased the penetration of the number of consumers who are opting in. And I think this is an example of how we're working really cross functionally to make sure that we're finding opportunities to bring value to our consumer. And I'm excited to partner Todd on the future of our loyalty program to drive 1P. It's going to drive frequency and on and will support our strategy around of continuing to gain share through our better ingredients, better pizza mindset.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Eric Gonzalez with KeyBanc. Your line is now open.

Eric Gonzalez

Analyst · KeyBanc. Your line is now open.

Good morning. And I guess your question, it seems like the international business has really turned the corner, particularly outside the Middle East and China. So perhaps you could discuss where some of the upside is coming from and maybe also address those problem areas such as the Middle East and China and how you see those markets evolving over the next few quarters? Also might be helpful if you could talk about the content in U.K. specifically just given the size that market and its contribution to profitability. Thanks.

Ravi Thanawala

Analyst · KeyBanc. Your line is now open.

I'll answer the question, Eric. I think this quarter in international is a little bit of an example of how we are taking a thoughtful and structured approach to our international transformation. We have GM's now based on costs, the globe in key markets or in key hubs such as Singapore, are clearly that the UK as well as in Dubai. And what that's really Dodd is broaden the Papa John's management team much closer to consumer centricity and deeper understanding and partners ship with the franchisees. So we are just getting better at being highly consumer-centric, partnering with the franchisees to identify opportunities around menu innovation to making sure we're partnering to understand which store formats, restaurant formats are working well. When I think about a more broad, what we're seeing in terms of success, like we're seeing strong gains and some of our really strong home markets that we have in Latin America, which is fantastic to see if we're also seeing pockets of strength all across the globe. And now we're spending time on like consistently talking about those share best practices and thinking a little bit further out on how we're getting gain all. I did also use the power of our marketing offense and our consumer centricity, the launch, Chad repeats launch costs, 23 countries on it was one of those LTLs well, we had great consumer research and at LTL in terms of penetration grew and improve the run rate on the cost as well. So we think we're identifying a recipe of success specific to the UK. We're really four quarters and into the real work here. This quarter really represented the culmination of refranchising 60 locations and closed 43 stores of the market that shrink a little bit in size. But we…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Alexander Slagle with Jefferies. Your line is now open.

Alexander Slagle

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is now open.

Thanks. Good morning. Milligan job on the restaurant level profit line despite the softer traffic. And we provided some good details on the moving pieces. But just wanted to clarify some things that I guess the local marketing spend reduction, I think that falls in the restaurant level line. Just want to clarify that, I guess how that shift in spend might impact the restaurant level line if you have a dollar impact to talk about? And also have that local spend had any impact on the software company in North America same-store sales or if that was pretty immaterial?

Ravi Thanawala

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is now open.

Yes. So first off, Bob, yes, local marketing savings are part of restaurant margin. So one, I just want make sure I answer that question for you to we're taking a really like thoughtful approach to assessing our overall marketing strategy. What you'll see as we went through the quarter of Q2, we started with a company Pup-Peroni. We saw the consumer trends. We rebalanced our media mix at a national level to have a higher mix. So as our mix and match six 99 offer, which we call Bob, a touchy of a price point, we've been running it out and it's at parity with some of our key our competitors. One of the things that we are doing as we progress into Q three is like we are in certain of our corporate markets, testing, different value offers and the goal of our value offers. You find that the value perception, things that drive our basket starter. These are larger baskets as a whole and continued a SaaS-like what is the right mix between national and local marketing and like we have to be like very thoughtful that the consumer is dynamic and we need to continue to be agile and checking that just along the way.

Todd Penegor

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is now open.

And I do think Ravi, and just an observation from where I said is we made some of the shifts in the late first quarter into the second quarter and put a really big bet on the on a national plan, pulled a little bit back on the on the local advertising, but the new campaign, the new agency. And at a time where we've focused a little bit more on our premium quality messaging was a great plan, but was probably at the wrong time for the consumer environment with all the shift of didn't have enough focus on value with the shift. Um, you know, we we probably didn't have the pressure that we needed balanced at the local level to really compete with some of the regional differences. So it's one for me to continue to do look at as we move forward. We have that right balance between kind of that. The national message that's very efficient and effective was supplemented and complemented with some local, strong messaging on the way. So I know lots of work to do to have some conversations, the franchise community moving forward and so on and stay tuned on that front. And maybe Todd, along the old adage that that's really why we're taking this clear focus on actions.

Ravi Thanawala

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is now open.

We're taking the guide value perception, having a clear perspective on how we are reigniting and expanding our innovation pipeline for the long term and looking at opportunities that improve our digital and loyalty the experience. So those are things that kind of across all parts of the business and ultimately truly impact how the consumer psyche is. And we think that will lead to transaction growth over time.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Chris O'Cull with Stifel. Your line is now open.

Chris O'Cull

Analyst

Thanks, Todd. Congratulations on the new role and creation is unique enough to take care and the category, whether you believe there needs to be more fundamental work done, just a differentiated positioning?

Todd Penegor

Analyst

No, thanks for the congrats, Chris, of where we start better ingredients, better pizza, high-quality, fresh ingredients, fresh, never frozen dough on most of our offering, six core ingredients in a signature sauces, real cheese, fresh toppings. I mean, what a great spot to start with? I think we've got all the time tools in the toolbox to really amplify and talk about our unique differences, team's doing a great job executing that day in and day out at the restaurant level will always have work to do to be even more consistent execution day in and day out. But the elements are there. I think we're just going to have to figure out how we make sure we amplify that message on as part of our overall campaign moving forward on both nationally and locally, but balancing it in the context of what we're in a very value-centric value for the money environment today. And that doesn't mean just price. That means making sure folks understand that the best features in the business come from Papa John's. And then you can trust and believe that your goal and I get that every single time with every single visit and then have some great innovation that you can only get from Papa John's over time to make sure that that Al reinforces that messaging. So a lot of great things in the pipeline, as Ravi said, he got do food testing. I think day one, probably our two I was in the kitchen with the team. There's a lot of creative stuff in the pipeline that can complement all of that messaging moving forward. And we'll see where things need to evolve to really make sure the consumer understands why we're uniquely different.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brian Mullan with Piper Sandler. Your line is now open.

Brian Mullan

Analyst · Piper Sandler. Your line is now open.

Thank you. As a follow-up on the domestic development, given all the work you've been doing on improving unit economics. And I'm wondering if when that is completed, organization might be willing to build more company-owned stores more aggressively than the past, even if it's different for development growth issue a little bit take management your own hands again, I know there's a lot to tackle, but wondering if that's part of the consideration set as we go forward.

Todd Penegor

Analyst · Piper Sandler. Your line is now open.

Brian, I'll take that. We've got some some work to do to really understand our long-range outlook and our capital allocation strategy. But first and foremost, it is going to be invested growth. We got to do a lot to really continue to make sure that the digital experiences more seamless that we got our loyalty program work and that the tech stack is soft led to build in layer all of this on. But there is a role to be a great brand stored on on putting some restaurants down, love to see how that works and fits within, um, you know our our capital allocation strategy. So I would just ask give us a little bit of time to work through that to really make sure that we're doing the right things to be that great brand steward, the lead, the system them to create the confidence. I do think we're going to have to take a look at what I would call as ongoing system optimization team has been doing it in Dubai and or sell restaurants, bring some new franchisees in scale up some existing franchisees to really make sure that as we do some of that work, we get some strong development commitments along the way to continue to make sure that not only is the company leading the way, but we've got some great I'm really excited franchisees. It's really setting the pace on growth moving forward. And we've got some of that in pockets across the organization today, but I'll turn it over to you, Ravi. You've been looking at the longer-range plan and I didn't get a chance to go through that with you yet.

Ravi Thanawala

Analyst · Piper Sandler. Your line is now open.

Yes. And just like it just a reminder, over the last 12 months, we've done some real things to improve the fundamental changes in economic model that we've seen restaurant margins to be 200 basis points on a trailing last trailing 12 month basis. Cases, we've all we've talked about how our build-out costs are becoming much more in line with industry norms that are larger, developing franchisees. We are taking steps to improve our digital experience, which ultimately drives conversion and repeat. So we're building those long-term recipe for sustainable growth. I think I'll maybe a week two or three, they were going to really sit down with saw a little more time on these key topics. But like the Tim and I'll tell you that we are spending a lot of time making sure we're setting up our franchisees to have durables, sustainable growth that really solid unit economics.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Nick Setyan with Wedbush. Your line is now open.

Nick Setyan

Analyst · Wedbush. Your line is now open.

Thank you. Just wanted to get some clarity on on the margin figure three run International's second half, just given all the other changes and how should we think about the international margins in Q3 and Q4?

Ravi Thanawala

Analyst · Wedbush. Your line is now open.

Well, maybe I'll most squarely hit on the UK is that's the most fundamental driver of the op margin structure in international. And um, we are only how we will. We only have 13 pulp mill on rational pause in the UK at the end of Q2. So we are moving back to what is our go-forward business model and international, which is to be a franchise of work. Did I answer your question, Nick?

Nick Setyan

Analyst · Wedbush. Your line is now open.

It does. Just music videos and relative to kind of where we were, let's say, pre acquisition just so many pages. So the question that it will be a lot more helpful. If we currently got a little bit more directionality or at least some brackets in terms of where the margin could settle in the second half.

Ravi Thanawala

Analyst · Wedbush. Your line is now open.

And I also understand the challenges of doing that. And I guess like book from an international standpoint, maybe the easiest way to frame this up is like we're going back to more of a traditional franchisee model. So that's going to allow us to go back to more historical levels if not slightly higher. And you have a margin structure standpoint. So maybe I'll give you some relative metrics to look out versus prior years of ultimately what was really impacting the international margins? Was the UK co-ownership structure.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Jim Sanderson with Northcoast Research. Your line is now open.

Jim Sanderson

Analyst · Northcoast Research. Your line is now open.

So thanks for the question. I just wanted to follow up on the promotion you had in market, the 909 Cheeseburger promo didn't meet expectations on yield because I'm trying to reconcile the value perception gains you've reported with the deceleration in same-store sales through July. Just any feedback on kind of how I think about it?

Ravi Thanawala

Analyst · Northcoast Research. Your line is now open.

Yes. Thanks for the question, Jim. A few things on cheese, do Burger is a one. We actually look at the ticket size when Cheeseburger was actually in the promotion and take it to stay healthy and accretive to our average ticket buyers of while it was at a really attractive nine, nine nine price point for the first 500,000 pages, it was really healthy in terms of why what it did to take it because consumers have a certain amount of money. There are going to spend and that allowed them to make sense out of pockets as well. So that's one thing. So the second is we are we did see sequential improvement and on a two year stack as we progress through the quarter. So we just are there was the launch of a different policy in the prior year of that influence what the comp trend was like up second up. It was a fan favorite at 99. Out of it created excitement and made us more top of mind with our with our consumers, which we think Joel, a lot of value. And now we've had like a really healthy balance as we move through the last couple of wants from a premium innovation like topic, Peroni at the beginning of them are beginning the quarter. So the time that we got to the middle of the quarter, we were talking about cheesy burger nine 99 has still delivered a fantastic tickets. And we were at month end market at parity relative to other competitors in terms of our mix and match offer. So we think that this Iressa, the finding the right balance of premium innovations that only Papa John's can deliver showing spots of parity in the market of more value, offering it as a way that we believe that we'll continue to drive positive momentum on transactions over the next couple of quarters. But we are taking it will be pragmatic approach of where the consumer is today and are the things that are on consumers' minds and we're going to stay agile. We're going to keep testing. We're going to keep making really good decisions that balance our transaction growth, sales comp growth and unit economics for our franchisees.

Jim Sanderson

Analyst · Northcoast Research. Your line is now open.

Just to follow you said you saw sequential improvement on a two-year stack, so no concern there with the cannibalization. I mean, your consumer just to trade down to the promotion with the incremental traffic just making fundamental or out of the.

Ravi Thanawala

Analyst · Northcoast Research. Your line is now open.

Yes, let me make a few came off satellite. When I look at what's happening in the last couple of more value oriented LTOs that we've been Buddy Media against, and there's a mix of them. We've seen really healthy tickets across all of them in all three of them have actually been net accretive to the total blended or the blended average ticket. So while that is what we're trying to ensure we did do the digital experience and give consumers the optionality for add-ons and make their pizza even better, being able to do the right cost that we think this mix of strong value orientation and make sure that consumers can get a great day. Value, but they can also build their basket the way they want allows us, though I prevent any material cannibalization and drive really healthy tickets driving great value perception for the consumer.

Todd Penegor

Analyst · Northcoast Research. Your line is now open.

So I guess Ravi probably helpful for Jim. Why don't you just talk a little bit about a couple of leaky buckets? I know we talked about the plans to address those are Andy, but probably worth just reiterating where those leaky buckets were in the quarter.

Ravi Thanawala

Analyst · Northcoast Research. Your line is now open.

Yes. So we've spent a bunch of design doing diagnostics on the business. Both will make quality brands standpoint from a consumer grains standpoint. And what we want to reinforce is where our transactions have been really healthy is in consumers are buying for either social occasions are slightly larger orders to pipe or more. We actually saw really strong performance, and we were up in those sorts of transaction types for the quarter where we're really seeing weeks in terms of transaction trends with consumers who are only purchasing one pizza or no pizzas and the way they're only purchasing side. So when we looked at the composition of where we need to regain transactions and gave us some real insights on how to adjust our barbell to allow us to continue to find that right balance of value orientation and premium this. And that's actually what is special about this brand that we have a right to play and we can Tenplay at both ends of the barbells. And we're just getting sharper how we actually do that effectively in this consumer cycle in future consumer sites.

Operator

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Our next question comes from the line of Fred Wightman with Wolfe Research. Your line is now open.

Fred Wightman

Analyst · Wolfe Research. Your line is now open.

Hey, guys. Just one follow-up and then a question. I guess probably the occasions that you were just touching on sort of the one piece or lesser decides only it's not really a proxy for lower income consumers. Do you think the main it's just when you guys talk about the need to improve value in the value perception, wondering where you're seeing the biggest gap versus targets as it versus Pete's appears versus other parts of QSR maybe versus your historical levels?

Ravi Thanawala

Analyst · Wolfe Research. Your line is now open.

Yes. So I'll take the first part of that question. And then Todd Nadella, two a share. So outside-in perspective that you do it, I compliment. So we think about the pizza business because pizza is for everyone. And we think that this is one of those categories that serves everyone's that there's multiple occasions and that consumers choose to purchase pizza. And we think that when you're in that value oriented occasion, smaller purchase side, that is where we see maybe a little bit less of that impulse buys to just pick up that small order. And that's really why we said it will evolve our media mix and what we were marketing to. And I don't know if you've seen our recent New York styles pod, but if you listen to the voice zone, but we are really talking about the incredible value that you can get a 1099 and extra-large pizza that the 1099, and it's a fantastic deal that you haven't tried. So hopefully, you're starting to see how we're taking a rich consumer insights. Partnering with our franchisees had a great, fantastic place point to attack where our leak is in the bucket of the pizza business.

Todd Penegor

Analyst · Wolfe Research. Your line is now open.

Pizza category is a big category to continue to compete in. And if you think about where I think we have the biggest challenge relative value, it's more versus our competitors within the pizza category. It's a different occasion. There's great value for money and pizza can have. It is a leftover. So when you think about what the consumer thinks about on overall value piece is just a great spot to play. And we got to make sure that our relative value versus the peer group is quite strong. We'll keep an eye on the other categories, the shifting across categories because there is a lot of value centricity out there today, but we got it compete and win in the pizza category. first and foremost. I'd like to sincerely thank you for your time this morning and your continued support of Papa. John's appreciated all the questions today. Thank you, Tony and agility. You have shown during these unique times. So exciting to see the way everyone is work together, and I can't see what wait to see what we accomplished together in the future. Thanks, everyone. Have a great day.

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