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Q1 2022 Earnings Call· Wed, May 4, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good morning and welcome to the ProPetro Holding First Quarter 2022 Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions]. After the presentation, there will be opportunity to ask questions. Please note that this event is being recorded. I'd like to turn the conference over to Mr. Josh Jones, Director of Finance for ProPetro Holdings Corporation. Please go ahead.

Josh Jones

Analyst

Thank you, and good morning. We appreciate your participation in today's call. With me today is Chief Executive Officer, Samuel D. Sledge, Chief Financial Officer, David Schorlemer, and President and Chief Operating Officer, Adam Munoz. Yesterday afternoon, we released our earnings announcement for the first quarter of 2022. Please note that any comments we make on today's call regarding projections or our expectations for future events are forward-looking statements covered by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. Forward-looking statements are subject to several risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control. These risks and uncertainties can cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. We advise listeners to review our earnings release and risk factors discussed in our filings with the SEC. Also, during today's call, we will reference certain non - GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to the most direct comparable GAAP measures are included in our earnings release. Finally, after our prepared remarks, we will hold a question-and-answer session. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Sam.

Samuel D. Sledge

Analyst

Thanks, Josh, and good morning, everyone. Our first quarter operating and financial results reflect the culmination of strategic preparation of the ProPetro team completed in the months leading in to 2022. Momentum around our returns focused strategy was achieved in the quarter and our pursuit of margin over market share led to improved capital efficiency across our asset base. Though no additional fleets were marketed in the first quarter, our team experienced a 15% increase in revenues and an 81% increase in adjusted EBITDA. These results not only provide proof that our capital-disciplined approach is paying off, but they also suggest that our team is focusing its efforts in the areas that maximize shareholder returns. Execution of our strategy in the first quarter was more difficult than the results may suggest. Weather and sand-related issues negatively impacted our operations in February and March, with downtime experienced by multiple fleets. These obstacles endured in the first quarter remind us of the volatility in operational risks we assume daily both on location and in the geopolitical realm, such as the heartbreaking war in Ukraine. Moreover, they remind us that it's vital to target economic returns that account for the risks that we bear on behalf of our shareholders. If not for our team's willingness and our customers ' desire to go the extra mile to find way to execute around logistical issues on a daily basis, our results would have certainly differed. That said, I would also like to thank all of the members of the ProPetro team for turning a very challenging quarter into one that reduced risk and limited downtime for our customers, while also generating strong financial results for ProPetro. As we look at how the geopolitical landscape has affected global crude oil markets in the first quarter, we…

David S. Schorlemer

Analyst

Thanks, Sam, and good morning, everyone. During the first quarter, we generated $283 million of revenue, a 15% increase from the $246 million of revenue generated in the fourth quarter of last year. The increase was largely due to improved pricing and higher activity levels, including a company record 600 pumping hours for a simul-frac fleet in the month of March. Effective fleet utilization was above our prior guidance of 12 to 13 fleets, coming in at 13.7 fleets, which increased 9.6% from the 12.5 fleets during the prior quarter. And as Sam noted, this was achieved without deploying additional fleets. We effectively scaled our business without adding operations overhead and the investments we made in force ranking projects and fleet repositioning during the fourth quarter and year-to-date continue to compress white space and improve our price deck and fleet profitability. This requires discipline in our team delivered in a big way. Our guidance for second quarter average effective fleet utilization is a range of 13.5 to 14.5 fleets, which assumes no additional fleet deployments and accounts for impacts related to the continued repositioning of our currently operating fleets. Cost of services, excluding depreciation and amortization for the first quarter was a 197 million versus a 187 million in the fourth quarter. With the increase driven by higher activity levels and inflationary impacts, including sand and logistics costs. First-quarter general and administrative expense was $32 million compared to $24 million in the fourth quarter. Adjusted G&A was within our prior guidance at $19 million and excludes $13 million relating to non-recurring and non-cash items, namely stock-based compensation of $11 million. Depreciation was $32 million in the first quarter. The company posted net income of $12 million or $0.11 cents of income per diluted share compared to a fourth-quarter net loss…

Samuel D. Sledge

Analyst

Thank you, David. As David mentioned, capital-discipline and a focus on returns are pillars of our business strategy today and moving forward. Our team spent significant time in the down-cycle working to understand what variables will support the creation of a through-cycle return in pressure pumping during this cycle and in future cycles given the high-intensity manufacturing environment in which we now operate. We believe we are measuring our business properly. And as a result of that endeavor and our strong profitability, this quarter validates our work. One of the most important changes noted by our team coming out of the pandemic was how the evolving needs of our customers were creating a wide range of equipment profiles on location, both in the form of capabilities and fleet configurations. This rapid change suggested that we could no longer simply look at EBITDA per fleet to determine if we were being profitable through cycle. As a result, we begin focusing on the replacement cost of all the assets required to support customer's well site and the cost to maintain a high level of efficiencies our fleets create. We not only evaluated assets in frac services, but also in our ancillary services such as pump down, cementing, and other asset-heavy operations. The rationale here is that those business units have their own respective replacement cost that need to be accounted for with their own return’s profiles. It's simply not reasonable to allow those services to subsidize the EBITDA of our working frac fleets. We also considered this for our cold stacked equipment. Historically, decisions to activate and redeploy equipment have typically been based on the marginal investment to reactivate rather than the full replacement cost of that equipment. Additionally, our sharpened focus on three-cycle returns requires us to address the realities that our equipment does not last forever and energy cycles always come and go. We began accounting for the new attrition rates and volatility impacts to determine the level of profitability required to operate in this business. So as we combine those factors and move forward into the early days of this returns-focused strategy, we've had to accept that our approach will at times result in missed opportunities with certain customers as it already has. Although passing on work when the expected return profiles do not meet our threshold has tested our metal, particularly as we saw peers deploy equipment more rapidly, the results we see in the first quarter only strengthened our resolve that we are on the right path.

Josh Jones

Analyst

A path that ultimately has driven a transformation of our asset base that is not only become more capital efficient, and supportive of higher margins, but one that seemingly has runway to continue to improve. While our team is excited about the road ahead, we are not yet satisfied with our current profitability levels, particularly given that the pressure pumping markets are working at effectively sold-out levels. We applaud the rate of change in our company's financial performance, but the bar ProPetro measures itself against will not be set comparative to prior cycles or pandemic lows. We believe that it's not only acceptable, but required for oilfield services companies to produce sustainable returns, particularly for those reducing risks and increasing up-time inefficiencies for our E&P customers. With that in mind, I'd like to once again thank all of my ProPetro teammates and our customers for another fantastic quarter with best-in-class safety and operational performance. We'd now like to open it up for question-and-answers. Operator?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We'll now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] First question comes from Stephen Gengaro of Stifel. Please go ahead, sir.

Stephen Gengaro

Analyst

Thanks, and good morning, everybody. Two things for me. If you don't mind, maybe I'll start with from a pricing perspective. You talked about the impact of positive pricing in the first quarter. Could you give us a sense for where your fleet stands relative to leading-edge prices and how we should think about that in the impact on profitability over the next couple of quarters?

Samuel D. Sledge

Analyst

Yeah, Stephen, this is Sam. Good morning. I'll take a shot at that. David might want to chime in as well. It's a range right now, and I think that's why you hear us continue to talk about analyzing where our fleet is and how it's priced. So I think we do have a number of fleets that we would qualify as on the leading edge from a pricing and profitability standpoint. We have a number of fleets that are maybe lagging what our current goals are. So near-term, our objective is to bring up the bottom end of our portfolio, whether it'd be through pricing, or repositioning, or better cost controls internally. And this is -- these are things that we've been doing here over the last number of months. We'll just take a continued effort to get into the through-cycle pricing and closer to leading edge with more and more of our fleet.

David S. Schorlemer

Analyst

Yeah, I think -- Stephen, this is David. Just to add to Sam's comments. I think when we look at pricing, we also are looking at customer efficiency, which can impact that. So what I would say is that we've probably got 30% of our pricing at headline leading edge numbers. Customer efficiency is not always the same. We've got maybe half of our fleets that are at improved pricing with high customer efficiency. So it's really a combination of factors when we think about ultimate profitability per fleet. But the goal, as we've mentioned in our commentary, is to try to increase the levels of profitability across our fleets regardless necessarily of pricing.

Stephen Gengaro

Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you for the color. And then just the second thing I wanted to ask about was, when you're thinking about CapEx and how your fleet profile evolves, do you have the money that you've earmarked for this year that -- think it's 250 to 300. By year-end, where do you think your fleet profile stands?

David S. Schorlemer

Analyst

I think the goal is to be pushing towards or be an excess of IV Dual-Fuel fleets, with the remainder being just the conventional Tier II fleets. And we look to continue to push into the Dual-Fuel arena as we've seen, continue to see, and have seen differentiated pricing for those assets. But I'd say at least IV Dual-Fuel fleets by the end of the year.

Stephen Gengaro

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thank you for the color, gentlemen.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Taylor Zurcher, Tudor, Pickering, and Holt. Please go ahead.

Taylor Zurcher

Analyst

David and team, thank you for taking my question. My first one is on the strategy not to market any additional horsepower in Q2. Sam, I think you said it's testing your metal a little bit in having to pass on some customer opportunities. But at the same time, really strong margin improvement in Q1. So what I'm just curious on is how much incremental demand you see out there in the Permian, maybe over six-month time horizon? What's the magnitude of opportunities you're having to pass up on? And where could we see demand in the Permian shakeout in the quarters ahead?

Samuel D. Sledge

Analyst

Taylor, great question. I think maybe to give a little bit more context to the comment that it's kind of tested our metal or tested our resolve. Is that in prior cycles like this, when you see demand increasing and capacity in the Permian Frac sector being virtually sold out, ProPetro and other companies like us have traditionally grown fleet capacity into that environment. And for many reasons in prior cycles, it was probably a bit easier to do that. As we look at the circumstances that exist today, one, we're having to take into account what it takes to achieve what we're calling a through cycle cash-on-cash return. And couple those opportunities with the right customers and the right timelines. So we're -- we are pretty confident that demand here pretty soon, if it hasn't already been going outstrip, just overall frac supply, especially in the Permian market. And I think we're looking at that as an opportunity to continue to high grade our portfolio as it exists today, without pushing anymore risk in the ProPetro system and really continuing to hang our cat -- hat on that operational execution that we feel like we've been known for and that we feel like is a competitive advantage of ours. Really it is just a laser-focus on maximizing returns through coupling our teams and our assets with the right people, the right customers at the right pricing, and generating a return that is probably more incremental -- more incrementally influential to our profile than just adding fleets.

David S. Schorlemer

Analyst

And Taylor, this is David and Adam may want to add to this. But some of the anecdotes from the market that we're getting are things like, look, maybe this isn't a blank check, but just tell us what you need to come frac our well or things like, can you at least send over a bad crude? We'll take anything. So Adam may want to mention some of that, but in terms of just customer sensitivity and urgency, it continues to escalate, and I think that's consistent with what we're hearing from other folks in the market.

Taylor Zurcher

Analyst

I will just add and echo what David and Sam both said, I mean, just to make a comment on some of those customer requests. In the past, we probably would have jumped at opportunities like that. But as Sam said, we're really watching those more closely now. And if it's going to put risk in our business in what we're trying to do as far as accomplished in creating value in a return, then yeah, we're just having to say no to those opportunities. Yeah. Understood and good to hear. Thanks to all three you for that. Follow-up just on margins. The last call, you pointed to a really strong start to January and then obviously you've dealt with some winter weather and supply chain constraints over the back half of a really final two months of Q1. So I'm curious, are we back to the profitability levels here in April or maybe exiting March on a run-rate basis that you saw in January or are you still having a fight through some of these supply chain challenges and not quite all the way back there yet?

Josh Jones

Analyst

First of all, I just wanted to -- I think it's more than fair to talk a little bit about some of the headwinds we say specifically in February. I can't say enough about our -- how our team navigated through that internally here and how many of our customers navigated through that as well. This is being, being really quality execute er on location is a dance. It's not just what we do, it's what our customers do as well. So working together with our customers through a month like February and part of March. It's just really impressive and I'd like to congratulate our team, our Operations and Logistics team and our customers for what I think is working through that maybe in a very differentiated way. That said, yes, you're right. We called out the January EBITDA margin and numbers on our Q4 call on purpose because we thought that that could be a sustainable level of profitability and something that we could actually build on. So I'd say yes, here in April going into May, we're back in that zip-code if not if not exceeding it.

David S. Schorlemer

Analyst

Taylor, and this is David, just to give you a little bit of color during the quarter, we actually saw EBITDA performance drop-off about 40% month over month before recovering. That just gives you a sense at how strong the overall pace of what was going on a normalized basis, excluding the weather impacts and similar logistics impact. We're seeing good market activity and beginning to see some normalizing of supply chain activity as well. We're hopeful that we see that play out through the rest of the quarter and the rest of the year.

Taylor Zurcher

Analyst

Awesome. Thanks for the answers.

David S. Schorlemer

Analyst

Thanks, Taylor

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Next question will be from John Daniel Simmons, please go ahead.

John Daniel

Analyst

Hey, guys. Good morning. Impressive quarter. To Adam, with engine lead times continuing to extend, can you say when you would place the next order for Tier IV DGB engines and assuming you placed it today, if you haven't already placed it, when would you realistically be able to have that fit fleet deployed?

Samuel D. Sledge

Analyst

John, I mean, quantitatively, that's -- as you could appreciate, a bit of competitive information because part of competing and supplying the quality service and getting our customers the right products and services is our ability and our competitor's ability to access supply chains in timely and cost-effectively manner. We started this DGB conversion program basically this time last year. And we did a really thorough analysis to ensure that we're working with the right partners and the right suppliers to help us execute on that conversion program. And we've been -- although there have been challenges, we've been quite pleased with our ability and our supply chain partner's ability to execute in that arena. Without quantifying specific numbers, we really like our position in the supply chain right now and our ability to make good on some of these conversions that we've promised our customers and to continue to provide the products and services that our customers are asking of us here in the near future. Going into beyond, say, the four to five fleets of Dual-Fuel conversions that we spoke about earlier, hard to say if there's more beyond that right now. We can't say that lead times are not getting any shorter for things like DGB engines. So the competitive advantages of companies like us and others that do have good access to the supply chains will only become greater because of those lead times extending.

John Daniel

Analyst

Would you say that your customers are asking for it more frequently today than three or four months ago?

Adam Munoz

Analyst

No doubt about it.

John Daniel

Analyst

Okay.

Adam Munoz

Analyst

John, this is Adam. I will just add to that that Sam said. We delivered roughly 90,000 hydraulic horsepower at the end of 2021, which is already in the field working at the higher relative pricing. And then we plan on additional 120,000 hydraulic horsepower to hit us in our fleet and get to work first half of 2022. So yes, definitely going to be a priority for us to continue that fleet conversion of our diesel burning equipment to more gas burning.

Josh Jones

Analyst

And just to clarify what Adam said right there, all of that horsepower he's talking about is Dual-Fuel, Tier IV Dual-Fuel horsepower. That is conversion, no net addition to our fleet capacity.

John Daniel

Analyst

Fair enough. The last one for me, I think in the prepared remarks you mentioned that a view that frac crew activity would rise 15 to 20 crews over the course of the year, that would be, I'm assuming, across the US, not just the Permian, but that higher. Let's assume that plays out. If you wanted to reactivate your 15 fleet, whether it's Tier IV Dual-Fuel, I don't care what it is, but just how long would it take you to bring that back to market?

David S. Schorlemer

Analyst

That's a good question, John. I don't know -- I don't know if I'm ready to answer that here. I would just probably point back to what our focus and our strategy is right now. And that's to get all of our fleets above what we would call a mid-cycle or through cycle cash-on-cash return, we're not there yet. I think in my prepared remarks, I noted that we're not yet satisfied with how we're positioned from a profitability standpoint. That said, we do have some leaders in the pack from a fleet basis that are performing significantly. So it's -- that is something that we continue to analyze. I don't have a time frame for you right now. It's a little bit down the priority list in terms of what our focus is.

John Daniel

Analyst

Okay. Fair enough. Thanks, guys.

David S. Schorlemer

Analyst

Thanks, John.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question will be from Ian MacPherson of Simmons. Please go ahead.

Ian MacPherson

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning, everyone.

Samuel D. Sledge

Analyst

Morning.

Ian MacPherson

Analyst

You've been pretty purposeful in clarifying we're not out of the woods yet with all the operational challenges, even if you're not trying to grow activity fast, you're not necessarily seeing total relief in all of your pinch points. So I wanted to dig in on that a little bit and ask, are you seeing this play out more with regard to the high churn components on your fleets, your power and influence and things like that, are you speaking more toward the labor side or maybe your customers consumables and sand and chemicals, etc. or is it just everything? And do you still have prescribed fixes coming on the way that could help you elevate your margin improvement as you sort through these?

Josh Jones

Analyst

Ian fantastic questions. Sam, again, I'll take a shot at talking about your question in a little bit more of a holistic manner. And I don't think I can appropriately answer your question without reiterating how hard this business is. This is the frontlines of fuel and gas operation today. Labor, materials, operational challenges. This business is tough. That said, we think we have the best team to execute in the best basin. So I think it's a bit of a combination of excitement about our ability to continue to differentiate competitively because of our team, our asset base, our customers. But also an appreciation for the headwinds and crosswinds that still exist in the system. So we're trying to be as realistic as possible about how we're looking at the future. That said, are there going to be opportunities for continued pricing relief? Yes. At the same time, are there going to continue to be cost inflation pressures? Yes. So it's quite of a broad-sweeping set of circumstances that have to be balanced and managed all the time.

Samuel D. Sledge

Analyst

We think there's upside to go from here. We just want to be realistic about how hard this business is and also, I don't think I can say all that without saying we think we're a little bit ahead of the curve as well. We're traditionally at the top end of the pricing scale, and I think from a profitability-per-fleet perspective, you could actually say that we're a quarter if not two quarters ahead of some of our competition from a trend standpoint.

Ian MacPherson

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. Thanks, Sam. And then with that, and maybe following in a little bit more pointedly on prior question, for Q2, it seems to me that it would not be out of bounce. I think that you could, again, get to mid-teens revenue growth over Q1 and I would have assumed that based on the EBITDA margin here that you experienced with the transit factors in Q1 getting towards mid-20s margin, EBITDA margin in Q2 would not be beyond possible. Would you agree with that?

David S. Schorlemer

Analyst

No. I think that given our what I would call differentiated strategy around fleet deployment, I think that we're not looking so much around top-line as we are margin expansion and improvement. So I think that I might be more -- a bit more biased to a number inside of what you mentioned regarding top-line. I think as far as margin expansion, I think that we do have some room to run there as we re-position fleets as we continue to see the price deck lead and increase, we have much of our business still has price openers where we can go back and recapture some inflationary impacts. So I think that we've got some room to run there.

Ian MacPherson

Analyst

That's great. Thanks, David.

David S. Schorlemer

Analyst

Yes.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Next question will be from Waqar Syed, ATB Capital Markets. Please you go ahead.

Waqar Syed

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning. Sam, you’re pumping up productivity is about 70% to 76%, I think Q4 was 76% higher than Q1 '19. Are we going to start flatlining around that level? You think there's a lot more still to gain from productivity. Could you maybe comment on that?

Samuel D. Sledge

Analyst

Great question Waqar, we've been asked this, I don't know how many times in the past and it sounds just like approach and record as soon as I personally I think. We can't push it any higher, our operations team in combination with our customers versus me wrong yet again. So are there opportunities to continue to increase pumping our productivity? Sure. I think it's more along in the zip-code of the bottom end of our operating portfolio. I think the top end of our operating portfolio is best in class. I think there will be continued gains Waqar, I think it will be at a slower rate. I hesitate to call that a plateau because I've been proven wrong by our teams so many times before. But I think it will continue to grind higher.

David S. Schorlemer

Analyst

Yeah and Waqar, this is David. Just to highlight one of the calls out on some of our earnings release and what we mentioned earlier, one of our simul-frac fleets hitting 600 hours, pumping hours in a month. And that's not something those other folks have been talking about. And I think that is reflective of the fact that we've continued to see improvement even as much as recently as in March. So I think Sam makes a good point that we've seen significant improvements and you got to think when -- how much blood can you squeezed out of that turn it. But we seem to be surprising ourselves each month as we continue.

Waqar Syed

Analyst

Great. Sam, another question. We hear from some of your competitors that there are some kits to upgrade Tier II equipment into Dual-Fuel but that system may have the same emissions profile if not better than Tier IV DGB. Have you heard anything to that effect? Do you think there is some merit to that?

Samuel D. Sledge

Analyst

I think that maybe a little bit debatable Waqar. Through testing that we've done directly and what a lot of that engine manufacturers would say, Tier IV is a better emissions profile. I think that's why it was government mandated. Also a big part of this is the diesel displacement. These Tier IV DGB engines were purposefully designed to displace more diesel. And we are seeing with our own fleet, and I think again, some of the anecdotes we're hearing from customers and competitors, that these Caterpillar Tier IV DGB Dual-Fuel engines have quite a bit higher displacement rate and we've been really pushing the envelope with some of these new units we have, which is an emissions improvement as well as a significant cost savings to us and our customers.

David S. Schorlemer

Analyst

We're seeing, I think in the neighborhood of 50% to 60% displacement on the Tier II DGB kits. Whereas we're getting, in some cases in excess of 70%, even upwards of 80% displacement.

Samuel D. Sledge

Analyst

Adjust to add one more thing, I think it's fair to note that all of these conversions also have an effect on engine life or asset life. So you have to maximize the trade-offs of how much diesel can we displace and how long will that conversion or modification last? And could it be detrimental to a large component of our fleet?

Waqar Syed

Analyst

Yeah. Good point. David, just one last question. Could you maybe talk about what the working capital cash inflow, outflow could be for Q2 and then for the remainder of the year? And then any comments on free cash flow for the year?

David S. Schorlemer

Analyst

Sure. Working capital -- networking capital increased during the quarter, related to some delays in getting some tickets signed. We resolved that very quickly and -- so I think there'll be some unwinding of that to our benefit going into the second quarter. And generally, we've been able to maintain fairly flat changes in working capital as we've progressed. And again, keeping in mind what I would call our more capital-efficient approach to the market, again, not looking for top line, but rather focusing on bottom line, we don't see dramatic changes on the revenue side and therefore working capital. So as it relates to free cash flow, we had guided last quarter that we would, in the near-term, have some negative cash flow as we invested in our fleet and in the conversions that will, I think, begin to moderate as we work through the year, although we under-spent our original plan in the first quarter due to supply chain constraints. Some of that's going to show up, we hope, in the second quarter, so that we continue to get the equipment that we need. But then we'll be looking to 2023 to determine what type of spending profile we'll have in the second half of the year. So I think it's still hard to say, but I would be biased toward neutral or even negative for the year. And again, it's just going to be dependent on how the market plays out.

Waqar Syed

Analyst

Great. Thank you very much. Appreciate the answers.

David S. Schorlemer

Analyst

Sure. Thanks, Waqar.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Next question comes from Arun -- excuse me, Arun Jayaram, JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

Arun Jayaram

Analyst

Yeah. Good morning. Arun Jayaram with JP Morgan. Sam, I had a bigger strategic question for you. As you're aware, your primary peers are pursuing a bit more of a vertical integrated strategy regarding stimulation. And you guys have generally held firm to just being a pure pressure-pumping company. So I wanted to get your thoughts on some of the pros and cons of a more integrated or vertically integrated offering to customers, if that makes sense, just given how we're seeing a much higher mix of privates in the market, who maybe could benefit from that more integrated offerings. So I was wondering if you could talk a little about that and any future plans that you may have to do some things outside of just pure frac, may it be in terms of sand logistics, wireline, etc.

Samuel D. Sledge

Analyst

Sure. Great question. It's -- I think this is something that we ask ourselves quite a bit internally here as we analyze market opportunities to improve our service and product offering, as well as what our customers may or may not be asking of us in combination with making sure that we're continuing to focus on what the core of our businesses is. And I guess I would say from a far my perspective is a couple of our -- few of our competitors that are more integrated into things like wireline per se that is offering a more integrated wellsite service. I would say that the core of their business from a profitability and a spending perspective is still pressure pumping, same as us. So we look at that and say, if we were to add ancillary services that would integrate us better into the completion’s wellsite, can they compete for capital in the same way as our core business? Can they bring through cycle cash-on-cash returns that we're targeting with our core business? I don't think we have all the answers to that yet, but I think just to give you some context in terms of how we're looking at that. And we continue to analyze opportunities on an ongoing basis. We have a high bar and we want those things, if those opportunities materialize, to be accretive to our offering, not dilutive in any way. And we want to put ourselves in a position in whatever service line that may or may not be added to our current core business, that we can also be the best in the Permian Basin from an operational perspective. That's maybe of utmost important to us is being able to provide a differentiated quality service to our customers. So those opportunities have been few and far between over the years, but we continue to keep our heads up and our eyes open and look at opportunities on an ongoing basis that might meet all of those criteria that I outlined. Great. And my follow-up, Sam, is you guys have been repositioning fleets over the last couple of two, three quarters. And I was wondering if you could maybe just elaborate on some of the benefits from that repositioning as we start trying to think about our forward expectations and our model. So maybe give us a sense of how many fleets have been repositioning and some of the benefits from a margin perspective from these moves.

Samuel D. Sledge

Analyst

Yeah. Arun, quantifying that is a bit on the competitive side in terms of information. But qualitatively, I can say that we've done a good bit of that. And that's been challenging. That's not just -- it's easy for guys like David and Adam and myself to get on the call and talk about that and very difficult on our marketing, business development, and operations teams to really execute on that type of strategy. And that's a bit differentiated than or different than how we have conducted ourselves in prior cycles. We don't get the pleasure to expose our revenue stream to a global index crude market like our customers do. So we have to expose ourselves to better earnings opportunities, not only through pricing, but also through putting our teams and our assets with better earning opportunities and with better customers. So it is -- I cannot say enough about how our team has worked together to execute on, say, repositioning fleets. There's probably less of that to do moving forward, we've done quite a bit of it, but it's always an option as we continue to chase this through cycle return.

Arun Jayaram

Analyst

Got it, got it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Next question comes from Don Chris with. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Good morning, gentlemen. I just wanted to ask you a couple of questions about simul-frac. I know that's moving towards the future of the industry and wanted to know what your thoughts are or where you see your fleet moving from a simul-frac perspective versus one pad completion going forward.

Adam Munoz

Analyst

Yes. This is Adam. I would just comment on that simul-frac. We would, I think collectively as a management team, what we've had to experience all of last year coming into this year is it makes a lot of sense for both sides, as long as the terms of correct as far as pricing and as well as the operation of the E and P as well. I mean, that's a tough job. I think Sam noted earlier how tough this business is just simply on the zipper - frac side. But as you throw simul-frac into the picture and the amount of equipment and personnel and logistics that needs to be hitting on all cylinders to make that operation meaningful to both sides is far infuse. I would just say that there's definitely just like in the pressure pumping, there's people that do it better than others. And aligning ourselves with those that have the infrastructure and the logistics, capability to continue an operational like that is probably what we would focus on as we look to more simul-frac for the business.

Samuel D. Sledge

Analyst

And Don, just the same, just to add one piece of information on top of that, my personal belief is that they're, say, heading into 2023 sector-wide, there will be more simul-frac, not less. That said, I don't think we are of the belief that it's going to be much more. It's going to be very marginal growth. This type of operation is not for everybody. You have to have a very sizable acreage position. You have to have very good water infrastructure and the ability to move that water around. We're happy to work with some customers that do that very well, but it won't be for everybody and I think more growth in the simul-frac will be very slow.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. And just one follow-up on that. How do you account for the fleet that you have doing simul-frac s now? Were they counted as 1 fleet or 1.5 fleets or 2 fleets? How do you normally do that when you're reporting?

Samuel D. Sledge

Analyst

Today, they're still counted as one fleet. When we quote utilization, it's on a working day measure. So one working day for simul-frac fleet is measured similarly as one working day for zipper fleet. That said, how we account for it financially is quite different because the replacement cost of the equipment on location for something like a simul-frac operation is far different than say a Midland Basin standard zipper job. So the returns profile needed to meet that replacement costs and that intensive operation is significantly different. So similar on the utilization, when we're quoting these things like effectively utilized fleets are quite a bit different as we measure our economics for that type of operation.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

All right. I appreciate the color. Thank you. I'll turn it back.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This concludes our question-and-answer session. I'll like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Samuel D. Sledge for closing remarks. Please go ahead.

Samuel D. Sledge

Analyst

Thank you. And thank you, everyone for joining us on today's call. We here at ProPetro are proud to play a part in an innovative energy industry where oil and gas remains critical to everyday life across the globe. We hope to talk to you soon and we hope that you join us for our next quarterly call. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator

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