Michael Osanloo
Analyst · Guggenheim.
So we're -- Greg, great question. So we're not, we're just historically not big spenders on advertising. It's just not -- our best marketing, and I still believe is, is outstanding operational execution, right. When you give people great experience, they come back. But the -- our finance team will say undeniably that the advertising we did in the back half of last year worked. Undeniably that the advertising that we did in Arizona worked and improved traffic trends. In both instances, it improved traffic trends. And is -- it pays for itself in a very quick timeframe. And so it gives us a little bit more confidence that we can start to spend a little bit more on advertising and not blow up our P&L, that it will return, it drives traffic, it drives comp, and it creates a positive return on investment. So we're intrigued by that and we'll continue to test that selectively. We're not going to do anything crazy. We're not doing $50 million ad campaigns. That's not who we are. But can we spend a little bit in advertising in a very targeted way? Yes, I think we can do that. We know that the advertising in Chicago works, and with the scale of restaurants in Chicago, that advertising covers a lot of restaurants, so we're eager to do that. And there's some, I think, fun angles that the marketing team has on what we can do in Chicago to drive just awareness, presence and frequency. Outside of Chicago, we're seeing really good success with some relatively modest advertising in the digital channels, particularly with our third-party delivery partners. We actually think that what ends up happening is that we have guests who maybe -- we were not in their mindset, that convert to a Portillo's. They think about Portillo's and then become converted Portillo's guests. So we're going to test that more aggressively, and we're going to more aggressively use digital channels, particularly third-party delivery channels, as a way of generating trial and awareness. And think of like, markets like Arizona, in Texas, in Central Florida; places where we're starting to build up scale, but candidly, we still don't have the awareness that we want. And it's a great way of building awareness in a very targeted fashion that we think pays dividends.