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Paysafe Limited (PSFE)

Q1 2022 Earnings Call· Wed, May 11, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Greetings. Welcome to the Paysafe Q1 2022 Earnings Conference Call. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Kirsten Nielsen, Head of Investor Relations. You may begin.

Kirsten Nielsen

Management

Thank you and good morning. Welcome to Paysafe’s first quarter 2022 earnings conference call. Before we begin, a friendly reminder that this call will contain forward-looking statements and should be considered in conjunction with cautionary statements contained in our earnings release and the company’s most recent periodic SEC reports. These statements reflect management’s current beliefs, assumptions and expectations and are subject to factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those forward-looking statements. You should not place undue reliance on these statements. Forward-looking statements during this call speak only as of the date of this call and we undertake no obligation to update them. Today’s presentation also contains information that will constitute non-GAAP financial measures under SEC rules. You could find additional information about these non-GAAP measures and reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures in today’s press release and in the appendix of this presentation, which are available on the Investor Relations section of our website. With me today are Bruce Lowthers, who joined Paysafe as CEO on May 1; and Izzy Dawood, our CFO. While many of you are already familiar with Bruce from his 15-year tenure at FIS, I am delighted to have him with us on the call today to introduce himself to you directly. Following a few remarks from Bruce, Izzy will discuss our strategic highlights and financial results in more detail. With that, I will turn the call over to Bruce.

Bruce Lowthers

Management

Thanks, Kristen. Good morning, everyone and thank you for joining us today. Before I jump into the quarter, I want to acknowledge the ongoing tragic events in Europe following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in February. We are committed to helping our European teammates through this tragedy. Izzy will discuss the impact of the wars having on our results a little later. Having started last week and visiting our major European offices, I appreciate the warm welcome from the Paysafe team and for the trust the Board has placed in me to lead Paysafe at such a pivotal time. I also want to thank Philip for his leadership over the past few years during this time. He not only took Paysafe public, he also navigated the company through the pandemic and laid important foundations for us to build upon. Having been in this role for 10 days now, I am mostly in listen-mode today, but I am happy to share a few observations and background on why I have joined the company. Coming to Paysafe was a compelling next step in my career and a great fit personally. As most of you already know, I have spent the last 15 years at FIS, most recently as President. I am grateful for not only my time there, but the wonderful teammates I had the opportunity to work with. While there, I was focused on accelerating growth and modernizing the company to drive the efficiency needed for FIS to compete in today’s marketplace. I have always had a strong focus on client experience, innovative products, technology and sales. ESG is also very important to me and something that will remain at the forefront for us. Earlier in my career, I was involved in a number of startups and consider myself an entrepreneur at…

Izzy Dawood

Management

Thanks, Bruce. Before we go through the financial results, I will provide a few updates on our strategic priorities, starting on Slide 4. We continue to see a lot of traction across our key digital commerce verticals, where merchants trust Paysafe to help them navigate payments and support growth in complex verticals, delivering a broad set of global payment options across card processing, real-time banking, digital wallets and online cash solutions. In crypto, activity remains very strong, including our recent go-live with Vitana for card processing. Additionally, we are now partnering with FTX to optimize instant payments for crypto purchases for customers in the European economic area by facilitating open banking based payments as well as step-up payment transfers. This is another exciting win as part of our embedded finance pipeline, where in addition to recent wins with FTX and Binance, we continue to see strong interest on cryptocurrency exchanges as well as large e-commerce organizations. We also continue to see a lot of demand across the financial services vertical. Our eCash business has become a meaningful player supporting neobanks and is now partnering with Solarisbank and Tomorrow Bank. Additionally, we are driving incremental growth with several of our ForEx trading merchants having recently expanded our service offering beyond digital wallets. Lastly, we are seeing good progress in iGaming outside of North America. As one example, we are extending our collaboration with Playtech into the UK and Europe following our successful integration across multiple U.S. states. Through a single global streamlined integration with Paysafe’s API, operators in UK and Europe will now also be able to leverage Playtech’s platform to access a range of Paysafe payment solutions, starting with payment acquiring and card processing with Paysafe digital wallet services set to follow. In Latin America, we continue to be pleased…

Operator

Operator

Our first question is from George Mihalos with Cowen. Please proceed with your question.

George Mihalos

Analyst

Great. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for taking my questions. Bruce, welcome aboard, looking forward to working with you.

Bruce Lowthers

Management

Thank you, George.

George Mihalos

Analyst

Maybe a bit premature, but just wanted to ask again early days at Paysafe, what are sort of the initial priorities that you’re sort of focused on, whether that be from a from a vertical perspective, from a product perspective, just sort of where are you focused now in your early days, sir?

Bruce Lowthers

Management

Yes, George, thanks for the question. As we look here the first week behind me, getting the opportunity to go around and meet some of the organization still have a fair amount of that in front of me. But I think it’s pretty obvious. We’ve got to get focused on how do we grow this business again. We have a lot of great tools. We have a lot of great strengths. The technology organization really has done a nice job over the last couple of years. You see a lot of great technology, cloud-based for the vast majority of what we do. Really a lot of emphasis around the single API focus on new innovative technologies like RTP, great advances in automation around risk compliance. Obviously, a great base of licenses and on a global basis. So a lot of great assets to work with. And now it’s really about just kind of pulling them together and really driving a growth culture and that I think we can do.

George Mihalos

Analyst

Perfect. Appreciate the color. And then Izzy, quickly, the U.S. acquiring that outperformed, as you mentioned, that sort of grew double-digit. Just curious if you can kind of callout where the upside came from, what surprised you to the upside? And maybe trends through April if you are willing to share that? Thanks, again, guys.

Izzy Dawood

Management

Yes. Sure, George. Thanks for the question. On the U.S. acquiring really after like a soft start in January post-Omicron. We just saw retail, hospitality really take off, which contributes to the strength. On top of that, Ascend has been doing a great job on the overall margin improvement as well. So you saw the 10% revenue increase, 20% EBITDA margin increase. So continue to find areas of synergies in the businesses that have been acquired over the years. And April is right now coming in as expectations remains strong, like you’ve probably seen in other acquirers as well.

George Mihalos

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Dan Perlin with RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Dan Perlin

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning. I just wanted to go back to some of the final comments you were making. You’re absorbing – absorbing a lot of FX headwinds and obviously Russia and Ukraine. So in taking all that into consideration and thinking about the second half ramp that’s implied, can you just walk us through again maybe in a little more detail what gives you so much confidence, I mean you called out acquisitions and in synergies in the embedded finance. But maybe if you could go a little deeper on how that maps out and why you feel so confident that second half can meet these levels of expectations. Thanks.

Izzy Dawood

Management

Sure. So maybe – thanks for the question. Maybe I’ll take it back to kind of how we develop the guidance right. When we developed it, we did take a more risk-based approach to as many things could go right as many things could go wrong throughout the year. So that is giving us the capacity to absorb some of these unforeseen headwinds. The second thing we did was just took a view that our ramp-up on our pipeline, especially for embedded finance, some of the larger enterprise sales would take a little longer. Now they are coming through, we feel pretty good about that. But specifically, as we get to the second half, a couple of things occur. One is, as you know, for embedded finance, we started with finance in January slowly, and that’s ramping up as we add additional payment methods into the embedded finance solution. We signed FX and went live with them very recently, actually in April. So that starts ramping up second half of the year. We have our North America iGaming, really excited about the integration to Barstool and seeing Skrill start making a contribution plus is in the state – ramping up of the states and other integrations that we’ve been talking about and announcing so that adds to second half relative to again, first half run rate – and then finally, we also have the World Cup that should help in Q4 as well. So there are a couple of building blocks that kind of build up to that second half kind of ramp up from where we are from Q1. Does that help you get the color behind it?

Dan Perlin

Analyst

Yes. No, I think that’s a great roadmap for you guys. Just to follow-up real quick, you talked about average ticket, I think in U.S. acquiring as being a reason for some outperformance, I think on one of the slides. I am just wondering, is that your callout for inflation or are you seeing like an underlying mix shift that we ?

Izzy Dawood

Management

So I’ll break out two things on our – in our general retail hospitality, we’ve seen average tickets go up about 4% year-on-year, right? So maybe it’s inflation, maybe it’s not, but it’s an increase year-on-year and average ticket. In our Petro services, we’ve actually seen something higher, closer to 18%. So we’re really seeing the – what you call the higher gas prices kind of show up in the average ticket that we’re seeing. Again, it’s a smaller part of U.S. acquiring, but we’re seeing that a little bit impact the overall volumes for the business. So not a big call out of inflation but just something that – it’s more than we’ve probably seen in prior years in terms of year-on-year increases.

Dan Perlin

Analyst

Yes. We will take it. Awesome. Thank you both.

Bruce Lowthers

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Jason Kupferberg with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

Jason Kupferberg

Analyst

Hey, guys. Good morning. Just wanted to start picking up or down left off on U.S. acquiring, can you just elaborate a little bit on the mix factors that drove the take rate there up a little bit quarter-over-quarter, but down year-over-year? And then can you just tell us what your revenue mix is in U.S. acquiring between volume-based revenue and per transaction revenue?

Izzy Dawood

Management

There is two things there, right, Jason. So on the acquiring side, the increase in take rate is predominantly just driven by we’re just seeing a greater uptick in some of our retail and hospitality volume, which we have slightly higher take rates. And by the way, it’s a 10 basis point increase in the chart, but it’s more of a rounding thing. That’s a much smaller increase. So we’re seeing it more stable and not being impacted like got impacted year-over-year, that’s a view on the take rates and in your second question, again, Jason, just remind me.

Bruce Lowthers

Management

About the transaction.

Izzy Dawood

Management

Yes, we are probably about 70% to 75% more volume driven than what you call it transaction driven.

Jason Kupferberg

Analyst

Okay. That’s helpful. And then just to follow-up on some of the comments you made around the balance sheet leverage. I think last quarter, you had said you expect it to be in the low 5s by the end of this year. Is that still the case? And any sort of kind of roadmap you would want to share on the potential pace of deleveraging beyond this year? Thank you.

Izzy Dawood

Management

Yes. We were expecting low-5s, potentially we are hitting 5% or maybe just below by the end of the year. We are actively using our excess cash every quarter to either buyback our debt or pay down some of our loans. So, that focus on de-levering is pretty important for us.

Jason Kupferberg

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from David Togut with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question.

David Togut

Analyst

Thank you and congratulations, Bruce.

Bruce Lowthers

Management

Thank you. Good morning David.

David Togut

Analyst

On Slide 5, you called out Skrill winning its first Tier 1 operator, which is very encouraging. Can you speak to why that operator chose Skrill and comment on the pipeline for other Tier 1 operators adding Skrill in the near future?

Izzy Dawood

Management

Sure. Yes. Barstool and us, I would say we have to do a lot of credit to Zak that we brought onboard last summer. He has built a really strong relationship with the Barstool team in terms of our capabilities, what we can do with them. And it’s really kind of using not just their sportsbook or really their overall media prowess across all social media channels and really building that brand, that Skrill brand through them, and then integrating it obviously into their – into the payment platform as well. So, pretty excited about the whole relationship, all through those goes exactly and the team driving it. And yes, we are actually talking to a couple of other operators that we just kind of announced it yet. But no, Skrill takes – Skrill has a lot of momentum. We have seen some great proof points. Volumes doubled sequentially. It’s up 10x year-on-year. It’s still small, but growing at a really good rate as the enhancements we have made, the VIP and the high dollar amounts that we are allowing some of the VIP customers to go through Skrill USA. So, all that momentum is just helping us with our conversations with Tier 1 operators. This Barstool campaign starts in Q2, everything is signed. And hopefully, in the coming quarters, we are able to talk about other Tier 1 operators.

David Togut

Analyst

Appreciate that. Just as a follow-up, what was the organic growth in the quarter? And is your expectation for fiscal ‘22 still to see 4% organic revenue growth and five points of organic adjusted EBITDA growth?

Izzy Dawood

Management

And now being organic, David, just to be clear, you mean around the acquisitions?

David Togut

Analyst

Yes. So, ex-acquisitions, what was the organic revenue to EBITDA growth in the quarter? And what’s your expectation for the year as a whole, organic ex-acquisition?

Izzy Dawood

Management

Sure. So, for effectively our organic growth, our – the FX impact year-on-year was offset by the M&A. So, you can probably calculate roughly 3% overall growth for the quarter. was M&A driven. And like we said in the past that we are pretty consistent with it. We expect pre-synergies about $60 million in revenue contribution and $20 million in EBITDA contribution from the three deals we have done that’s a contribution in 2022. So, we are still on track with that.

David Togut

Analyst

Got it. Thank you very much.

Bruce Lowthers

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Scott Wurtzel with Wolfe Research. Please proceed with your question.

Scott Wurtzel

Analyst

Hey, good morning guys. This is Scott on for Darren. I just wanted to touch on the digital wallet segment for a second. It was good to see some of the progress that you made on deposit pricing and increased conversions. But I just wanted to touch on the user growth. We noticed it continue to decline sequentially during the quarter and thinking about the potential for an inflection in user growth, just wanted to get your thoughts on what the drivers of that potential inflection would be? Thanks.

Izzy Dawood

Management

Yes. Sure. Scott, good question. And one of the things we are seeing across gaming in Europe, which where digital wallets and e-cash primarily operate, and you have seen from other operators as well. It’s in Germany and Netherlands regulations that are driving year-on-year decreases. Obviously, our wallet reset also impacted that going into 2022. So, we have seen the 12-month active decline. We will expect that to decline through Q2 with the challenging comps and we are really targeting Q4 kind of where that stabilizes. That being said, on the one-month active, so for the last two months or three months, we have seen that relatively stable. So, that gives us a little bit of comfort that again, it’s stabilizing. We are not declaring victory on an inflection point rise up just yet. Chirag and the team are doing the right things to get the business where it is where some of the core metrics are again stabilizing and slightly improving.

Bruce Lowthers

Management

I would just add initial view on it. I really like the team building that Chirag is doing. He is really hiring some great talent. And I think you are going to see some outcomes of that pretty quickly.

Scott Wurtzel

Analyst

Great. Thanks. And then just as a follow-up, going back to guidance here. Outside of the FX headwinds and the impacts from Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, can you maybe just talk about some of your higher-level macro assumptions that are embedded in the guidance?

Izzy Dawood

Management

Yes. I think probably the largest macro assumption right now – two probably, two macro assumptions that there isn’t an unknown regulatory change in Europe that impacts us. Right now, we don’t see anything happening in Q2 or even for the balance of the rest of the year is that we see imminent. And the other macro one is any recessionary impact either in Europe or in the U.S. that would impact volumes. Those are probably the two. Right now, we are not planning based on what we see today, any of that impacting our guide. But those will be the two items that we keep an eye on.

Scott Wurtzel

Analyst

Great. Thanks guys.

Bruce Lowthers

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Jamie Friedman with Susquehanna. Please proceed with your question.

Jamie Friedman

Analyst

Hi. Let me echo the greetings, Bruce.

Bruce Lowthers

Management

Yes, thank you.

Jamie Friedman

Analyst

So, I think in your prepared remarks, you did disclose the growth in the North American Gaming segment, but you were going kind of quick there. If you did say, I apologize, but if you could or if you have that, that would be great.

Izzy Dawood

Management

Yes. We had 40% year-over-year volume growth in the North America iGaming segment. Pretty happy with that. And again, expecting a 30% plus volume revenue growth for all of 2022. Hopefully, we outperformed that based on what we are seeing.

Jamie Friedman

Analyst

In the last question in terms of the monthly actives I would be to say, I don’t see that in the appendix or maybe I am just missing it, but did you disclose what the wallet monthly actives were?

Izzy Dawood

Management

Yes. In the appendix, Jamie, there was a 12-month active for e-cash and for additional wallet that we have shared that every quarter. So, yes, I…

Jamie Friedman

Analyst

Okay. So, that $2.8 million I found it is, I got it. So, that’s down, why is that a constant currency number, though?

Izzy Dawood

Management

No, it’s not. The active users is all the way to the right, that’s just a metric. The constant currency is the revenue metric.

Jamie Friedman

Analyst

Got it. Okay. So, how would that is compared to the previous period?

Izzy Dawood

Management

It’s down. I believe first period was about 3.1.

Bruce Lowthers

Management

Correct. Yes. $3.1 million.

Jamie Friedman

Analyst

Okay. And then Bruce, I was just wondering at a high level, what kind of like measurement you are going to run the company on. You said in your prepared remarks that growth is a priority. And we saw you deliver that at your prior shop. But how are you thinking about what to focus on here?

Bruce Lowthers

Management

Yes. Look, I think it’s a great question. Obviously, a weekend, not prepared to kind of change the metrics that the company has been presenting. But – we will work on that this quarter. We will come back and be very transparent as how we look at the business, so that everybody can kind of follow along and see the proof points that we have as we are making progress to our pivot to growth. So, a lot to come here probably in the next 90 days. I would expect you are going to see some more disclosures in the second quarter about how we are looking at the business, how we are measuring the business and how we are going to be able to demonstrate that we are growing the business.

Jamie Friedman

Analyst

Got it. Thank you again guys. I will jump back in the queue.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Timothy Chiodo with Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your question.

Timothy Chiodo

Analyst

Great. Thank you. Good morning. I wanted to also talk about U.S. acquiring. So, specifically, the volumes, they were really strong at about 21%. And I know that previously we had talked about for the full year volumes in that segment being up in the 4% to 7% range. I just want to see if that number has changed much? And what changed since you last guided? That was a really big beat on volume specifically. Related to that, what does this imply for an exit rate heading into 2023 in terms of the volumes again for U.S. acquiring?

Izzy Dawood

Management

Sure, Tim, a couple of questions there. So, no, we are still thinking it will be – for the full year, we are looking at mid to high-single digits in terms of volume growth. The year-over-year compare for Q1 was a little easier comp they saw some really solid growth. So, that’s one. The other aspect in terms of the exit rate of 2023, it’s still early. Inflation, recessionary talk, I think right now, we are seeing the momentum on the volume side that and the team are pretty excited about. We are growing our stick count. We are growing our revenue per merchant through our servicing and our offering. So, right now, again, we look pretty good about it for the rest of the year. And then we will talk about 2023 as we get closer to Q3, Q4.

Timothy Chiodo

Analyst

Okay. Great. And then you also made the comment on – there was a question earlier around April, and you mentioned that the trends were consistent in terms of U.S. acquiring. Did you mean that the trends were consistent in terms of roughly 20% volume growth or…

Izzy Dawood

Management

Relative to internal expectations, we are probably expecting year-on-year volume growth in the high-single digit, maybe low-double digits for acquiring for 20 – for Q2.

Timothy Chiodo

Analyst

Right. Okay. Alright. I am glad we clarified that. Great. And then the last one is around – you had mentioned on prior calls around Netherlands, just some of the regulatory changes around iGaming. Is there any update to mention there, or is that sort of status quo?

Izzy Dawood

Management

Yes. Tim, great question. Yes, we – the decree was reversed where operators could accept payments from e-money license providers. The next step is for these operators are actually go through an application process back with the licensing agency to get approved and many of the operators going through that. I should have mentioned I think with the earlier question that’s another element that we are expecting Q4 to start contributing to our run rate. And that’s what we are planning for. So, the operators again are going to the licensing to be able to accept the e-money license providers, eCash being the big one for us. And we should see that hopefully starting in like late Q3 to Q4 as the operators get approved.

Timothy Chiodo

Analyst

Okay. Great. Izzy, thank you for taking all those. I appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Andrew Hummel with WestPark Capital. Please proceed with your question.

Andrew Hummel

Analyst

Hey guys. Thanks for taking my question. Just wanted to double back on the embedded finance opportunities you guys have. And when you talk about not including the volume in the base. But I just wanted to see how you guys are thinking of monetizing those transactions and how you are expecting that to ramp through the year and particularly into the back half?

Izzy Dawood

Management

Sure. Just to give you a flavor of a couple of things here. So, we had $4 billion in volume in our embedded financial relationship. That’s a lot in Q1. But how we effectively are working with our better finance partners are. We are getting – we get compensated on money in and money out, not the P2P or the in-wallet transactions that occur. Now, the great news is for every one transaction we process from external to internal, there is about six transactions internally. So, the ecosystem of our embedded finance partners is very strong, right. We are enabling more activity for them which get better engagement from their consumers, which drives their revenue. So, as a result, that’s the reason the volumes are not included because it’s not a fair reflection of kind of how the revenue is driven. Now, we have started with bank transfers, rapid transfer into the wallet. As the year goes on, our plans are to include other payment options into the wallet and to the embedded finance wallet, which would be our eCash solution as well as card processing. But again, that’s slowly country-by-country, we make sure that we have our KYC, our risk parameters are all set. You have also noticed at least a Binance recently them being accepted as an asset provider regulated asset provider in France, they are taking compliance speeds very seriously as well. So, all things are pointing to you, we are going to continue to grow with our embedded finance partners as the quarters go along. Does that give you enough color?

Andrew Hummel

Analyst

Yes, that’s pretty helpful. I appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

We have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. And I will now turn the call over to Bruce for closing remarks.

Bruce Lowthers

Management

Yes. Thank you. Look, thank you, everyone, for joining us this morning. And I want to also thank my team for such a great warm welcome. It was fantastic to visit everybody in Europe and get to meet so many people in the last week. I remain very excited about the opportunity here at Paysafe. As I mentioned earlier, we have a tremendous amount of strength that we will be able to build on and really get laser-focused on growth. I think we have some great foundational items to build off of. We will drive product innovation and client experience. We will really get after creating a strong sales culture. We have a lot of opportunities around geographic expansion and also moving into adjacent markets with strong TAM expansion. So, I appreciate everybody joining us today and to our team, if you are listening, let’s recommit to our values and courageously work as one team to get this growth engine back on track. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.