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Paysafe Limited (PSFE)

Q2 2021 Earnings Call· Mon, Aug 16, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the Paysafe Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If you would like to ask a question you may do so, . As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host. Kirsten Nielsen, Head of Investor Relations. Thank you. Please go ahead.

Kirsten Nielsen

Management

Thank you and good morning. Welcome to Paysafe Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. With me today are Philip McHugh, Chief Executive Officer, and Izzy Dawood, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, a friendly reminder that this call will contain forward-looking statements and should be considered in conjunction with cautionary statements contained in our Earnings Release and the Company's most recent periodic SEC report. These statements reflect management's current beliefs, assumptions, expectations, and are subject to factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those forward-looking statements. Today's presentation also contains certain information that will constitute non-GAAP financial measures under SEC rules. You can find additional information about these non-GAAP measures and reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures in today's press release and in the appendix of this presentation, which are available on the Investor Relations section of our website. With that, I will turn the call over to Philip.

Philip McHugh

Management

Thanks, Kirsten, and thanks to everyone for joining us. After another successful quarter, we are pleased to announce a strong set of financial results. Several key strategic wins continued progress on our cost transformation, and through exciting and complementary acquisitions. Let me begin with the financial highlights. Payment volumes grew 41% to 32 billion in the second quarter. Reported revenues were $384 million, an increase of 16% pro forma when excluding the Pay Later divestiture. On an adjusted basis, excluding the direct marketing business, Paysafe grew an impressive 23% compared to the prior year. Before we move onto the bids update, let me summarize a few highlights upfront. In North America iGaming, we recorded strong volume growth of 72% year-on-year, announced several customers win, and begin piloting our updated Skrill app with the 80 merchants. Outside of gaming, we won multiple deals in fast-growing Digital Commerce Verticals. Across digital goods, Crypto, Financial Services, and Travel. We saw revenue growth of 30% in the second quarter. We continue to see the combination of our e-commerce gateway with digital wallets, online banking, and eCash solutions as a true differentiator in the market, that would continuously be a very strong pipeline for growth. On our transformation program, we delivered 17 million of Cost reduction year-to-date, against a full-year goal of 30 million for the team continuing to identify new opportunities. Additionally, we're excited about the opportunity of two acquisitions we recently announced. Combined PagoEfectivo and SafetyPay, gives us a market leadership position in Open Banking and eCash Solutions in the fast-growing Latin American market. These transactions are expected to be accretive to 2022 and further enhanced our long-term growth as we drive multiple cross-selling opportunities across all Paysafe business units. We also announced that Chirag Patel will join Paysafe next month to lead…

Izzy Dawood

Management

Thank you, Philip. Let's turn to Slide 11 for a quick summary of our Q2 Financial Performance compared to our guidance. Revenue was $384 million, which came in at the high end of our guidance, driven by a strong U.S. recovery and continued momentum in eCash. Adjusted EBITDA of $119 million was also at the high end of our guidance. Gross profit and expenses were right in line. Overall, we're pleased with our performance for the quarter. Turning to Slide 12, volumes of $32 billion up 41% compared to last year with growth across all three segments. And we saw sequential growth in both integrated processing and digital wallets. Total revenue for the second quarter was $384.3 million, up 13% year-over-year, driven by growth in all segments. excluding Pay Later, which was divested in October of 2020, revenue growth was 16%. As Philip mentioned, excluding the divested Pay Later business and adjusting for the direct marketing vertical, revenue growth was 23% compared to the prior year. And I will provide further details later in the presentation. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $118.8 million, up 8% versus the prior year. We saw growth and margin expansion in both eCash and Digital Wallets, resulting in an adjusted EBITDA margin of 31% for the quarter. While there is noise, the year-over-year margin comparison, including the temporary code-related Cost reduction in 2020, the decrease in margin compared to the prior year primarily reflects business mix in integrated processing. Lastly, free cash flow was $54.6 million and 46% conversion on an adjusted EBITDA basis. The lower conversion ratio this quarter was driven by significant tax payments, part of which we expect to be refunded in 2022. Year-to-date, our free cash flow conversion is approximately 70% consistent with our expectation of approximately 70% to 80%…

Philip McHugh

Management

Thanks, Izzy. In conclusion, we are pleased with the strong second quarter. We like the momentum we're seeing in North America iGaming. We're excited about the building pipeline in some of the faster-growing emerging verticals and happy with the discipline and execution of our cost program. We're seeing good signs of recovery and a return to growth in direct marketing, and we are especially excited to welcome SafetyPay, and PagoEfectivo to the Paysafe family. As you had additional opportunities to grow. Putting all of these pieces together, we continue to execute our strategy in line with the long-term growth outlook for Paysafe. Thank you. Now let's open up the call for Q&A.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, the floor is now open for questions. Our first question is coming from Dan Perlin of RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Dan Perlin

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning, everyone. I wanted to dive in a little bit more on the acquisitions, if we could, I know Bill, you mentioned you're strategical, it's giving you a foothold in Latin America. You had some complimentary verticals and some synergies but in the context of levering the Company up a little bit over 5 turns. I just want to make sure I understand maybe a little bit more about that strategy, and what you see playing out from those 2, in particular, over the next couple of years? And then maybe if there's anything else you can provide around expectations around synergies that would be great. Thank you.

Philip McHugh

Management

Thanks, Dan, it's great to hear from you. Let me give you a couple on -- I'll give you a review on leverage. I'll talk about the real basics. And then I could talk a bit about what we really liked about the deal and give color on those synergies. So when we kicked off on Paysafe and we started talking about our strategy, we talked about doing deals that we would see leverage go up, and then we'd see it go back down into that kind of mid-3, kind of 3.3-3.5 range. And that's 100% of our plan. That's our outlook when we see the performance of those businesses and the performance of Paysafe overall. So we feel really comfortable on that front. In terms of the deal basics, SafetyPay was 441 million all-cash transactions. With PagoEfectivo, it's about 550 million in total. We expect about 60 million of revenue and $20 million of EBITDA next year from those two pieces. Historically, the two business has had a kind of CAGR for the past 2 years, about a 55% topline growth rate. So they're very fast-growing businesses. It gives us a presence in 19 markets, including 11 Latin American markets. Either principal markets include Brazil, Mexico, Peru, Colombia, and Chile in terms of markets of note. Over 300 merchants and most importantly, 90% bank coverage. So these bids are predominantly open banking with some eCash in them, and with a single integration, you can access 90% of the networks for open banking solutions. So that's a snapshot of the deals. What we like about this, Dan. One, on a standalone basis, these are great businesses. They're very, very high growth businesses. They are very successful with a very high-demand APM and open banking in Latin America. And we see…

Dan Perlin

Analyst

That's great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from George Mahola of Cowen.

George

Analyst

Hey guys, good morning, and thanks for taking my questions. I guess, firstly, Izzy, I want to make sure I understand the third quarter guide. Can you maybe help us frame what the expected growth rate would be, on a normalized basis? Factoring out the direct marketing, and obviously some of the other grow overs. What would that have implied if we didn't have those impacts?

Izzy Dawood

Management

Yeah. Hey, George, good to hear from you. Yeah, let's dig into that. So obviously, we're seeing the recovery in Direct Marketing as Philip talked about. Once I got -- once you took to impact of direct marketing in Q3, you're roughly about 10% to 12%, 10% to 13% year-on-year growth in revenue. Again, as I've mentioned in prior calls for our conversations, that July, August, it's going to be interesting post - COVID to see what kind of activity we'll see. And we are seeing the seasonal quiet activity, the traditional slate of a lack of like sporting events in Europe. We're seeing all focused on vacation. So that's what we saw, that kind of what informs our Q3 guide for the most part. Does that kind of provide a little additional color there, George?

George

Analyst

Yeah, that's actually exactly what I was looking for just to kind of get an apples-to-apples comparison. And then if I may just two more questions. I'm curious, like what I think the U.S. volumes being up 68%. So nice to see the strength there. I'm curious if you can talk a little bit about what you're seeing in Europe, maybe post to 2Q, how some of that reopening may be playing in. And then the last question for eCash. should we be assuming that growth is maybe, somewhat flattish year-over-year, in the third quarter? Appreciate the color, guys. Thank you.

Philip McHugh

Management

I'll grab a little bit of that, and then maybe if you also grab onto it. So in Europe, a couple of things going. So we did see kind of a post - COVID reopening, the market's really open about. There are much more stringent lockdown, uncertainty kind of our U.S. comparison. So that's kind of creates some softness in the kind of online gambling space in the summer months. In addition to where we can consider regular soft seasonality in the summer as well. So we are seeing that one. Two, on the eCash side, it's been an incredibly strong story. We do see that tempering down and we've been very consistent about that. So we are starting to see signs of that slowing down. On the flip side, our eCommerce business, our integrated and eCommerce business is seeing an extremely strong pipeline of growth as we expand and build up a pipeline of new clients. So that's also creating some nice outlook for us as well. So you have a couple of things happening across Europe and international markets.

Izzy Dawood

Management

And to close that out as specific on eCash. Definitely seeing that temper down, we're not going to see 30%+ growth, but we still see a pretty strong growth year-on-year in Q3 in the business. The work that been doing, and the teams are doing, in terms of greater engagement with credentialed customers and alike, it's still driving our year-over-year growth, at least in Q3.

George

Analyst

Very helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from Jason Kupferberg of Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Jason Kupferberg

Analyst

Thanks, guys. Good morning. Maybe just to build on one of George's questions a little bit more. Can you maybe call out some specifics around quarter-to-date underlying acquiring volumes that you're seeing, whether it's kind of in-store versus e-com, just in light of the variant? I know there's a lot of interest in terms of what's happening in the recent weeks.

Izzy Dawood

Management

Yes. So we don't have the in-store versus online handy, but we can see like August volumes would seem pretty consistent with July. I mean, it's up slightly up to flat, so we're seeing the momentum continue for the integrated processing business and feel pretty good about that overall.

Philip McHugh

Management

Yes, we haven't noticed that debt because of the Delta variant coming through. We remain ed pretty positive on how the U.S. acquiring and SMB is performing.

Jason Kupferberg

Analyst

Okay. That's good to hear. So on the EBITDA margins, I think for Q3, it looks like at the midpoint you'd be around 28%. And as you alluded to, there's a pretty big ramp implied in Q4 to get to the 32% target for the full year. So I know you rattled off a couple of the dynamics driving that, but can you just drill in a little bit regarding your visibility on that acceleration in the margin in the fourth quarter? Thanks, guys.

Philip McHugh

Management

Hey, Jason, two good questions in there. So you're right on a reported basis the margin shrinks, but similar to what we did in Q2, we'll provide a look through on direct marketing and you'll see the continued margin expansion. I think we can look forward to that. So again, for more details, we'll call as part of the Q3 call. In Q4, there are a couple of three major things that we think about, right? That drives that ramp up. And again, recognizing that there is probably good comp out there from a seasonality basis for you guys to work with. But there are three major factors. One is the traditional active gaming activity in Q4, the holiday. So Digital Wallets' growth is pretty solid in Q4. That's one, second direct marketing. Sequentially, the headwinds start to abate. Based on the investments we're making, and the market starting to recover, that we see as well. The third and probably the most meaningful so is the on-boarding of a pretty strong pipeline in our integrated, e-commerce business. Right now, we anticipate that we'll continue driving the growth and absolute revenue as well as we head the form into Q3, and to Q4.

Jason Kupferberg

Analyst

Okay. Well, thanks for the color. Appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from David Togut of Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

David Togut

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning. Could you unpack your take rate expectations for Q3 and Q4 of this year that is embedded in your guidance? And more specifically, could you walk through your expectations for a digital wallet, eCash, and integrated processing. And then once we get beyond year-end, when should we start to see take rate on average begin to expand again if that in fact is part of your outlook for 2022?

Izzy Dawood

Management

So David, a couple of questions, that I'm sure I was hopeful added towards the end. So we will talk about 2022 when we have greater clarity, obviously, when the time is right. But regarding taking rate, what you call impacts, if we continue to see really strong growth in the integrated processing segment and integrate e-commerce, naturally, we'll see the denominator effect lower the take rate. But as we show them the slides of taking rates by each of our individual businesses, I think pretty solid. Right? So it really becomes more of a denominator effect on what the growth is and if it's going to drive absolute revenue growth at or higher than our expectations I think we'll be pretty happy about that, right? It's just a matter of where we see more activity or more -- basically, more stickiness with our customers and growth as well. So that's one aspect of taking rates. In terms of the outlook for the rest of the year, again, Digital Wallets growth will help take rates, Direct Marketing will probably help take rates, and the integrated e-commerce and integrated process and growth will help take rates just a matter of the dynamics, right? But we will -- right now, the growth towards -- or the focus on absolute revenue growth has been kind of pretty good for us, and that's where we're staying focused.

Philip McHugh

Management

Yeah, I think we gave a lot of detail on the take rates to really unpack that. We said -- we thought that was important to share and go in. In the individual business lines, we're seeing a consistent take rate, so it is a mixed business. And just as Izzy said, some of that eCash slow-down, eCommerce growth. Those are big mix issues, but ultimately the direct marketing recoveries as we go to early next year. That will be a tailwind on revenue, but also on taking rate.

David Togut

Analyst

Understood. Would you expect eCash take rates to sustain at the 7.3% level?

Izzy Dawood

Management

No, actually we expect to come down a little bit towards -- we always plan towards the target of 7%. The last couple of quarters have been higher as we've just seen some additional pieces come through. But David I think 7% is kind of where we kind of wants to plan for on a medium to long-term basis.

David Togut

Analyst

Understood. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from Jamie Friedman of Susquehanna. Please go ahead.

Jamie Friedman

Analyst

Hi. Good job with these slides and with the discussion. I really like Slide 20 and Slide 23. I just wanted to ask though, generally, are you comfortable with the March 9th, Analyst Day guidance on Page 37 out of 3 years? Because that's 2023, are you still comfortable directionally with that?

Philip McHugh

Management

Directionally, absolutely. Jamie, as we talked about our long-term thesis. And I think it's showing through in our adjusted results as we've taken out Direct Marketing Pay Later, that

Izzy Dawood

Management

to low teens revenue growth, high teens EBITDA growth, it's definitely coming through as we work with this transitional period with Direct Marketing. So yeah, and that's what our long-term outlook also showed that range. So yes, so far, today we're pretty comfortable with the overall outlook.

Jamie Friedman

Analyst

And then Philip in your prepared remarks, and I don't have it exactly, I apologize, but you said something to the effect that Direct Marketing was -- correct me if I'm wrong, a little bit worse than you had thought. So can you just give us a sense of what you had thought and why it's worse? And if you can't quantify, just like what -- if you unpack that a little bit relative to what you had thought, that would be helpful.

Philip McHugh

Management

Yes. Hi, this is I'll take that one, Jamie, just to recap the issue. So in Q1, we did spend some time, on the call, talking about how we exited discrete client set in the first quarter. We talked about a $10 million impact in the first quarter and we said that it would take Q1 2022 to lap the issue. Right so, that should give you a sense of size and scope here. That is 90% of the same issue. The marginal comment is, as we've seen, the changes in the market which we anticipated, we have seen some market softness in general, as other players have also adjusted some slight pullback in direct marketing investments, as the market adjusts back. So that's what we're seeing. So say just slightly, some slight pull down across the market, not just for us. But why we -- we talked about why we really like this business, we continue to invest in this business. We are seeing a recovery. We've been in lots of conversations with our direct marketing clients and they are focusing on reinvesting and go back into the market. There's talking about programs coming back on it at a much higher volume. And look, we've got the strongest risk management, a very wide set of bank partners, CRM partners, very strong relations with Visa and MasterCard on this. So it puts us in a really strong position to be that partner when this business turns around. So that's what we're seeing is that we had that discrete set and that's got to work its way through the numbers. Markets pulled back a little bit because of all the changes, but we see that coming back as the market stabilized and people start to reinvest in direct marketing campaigns.

Jamie Friedman

Analyst

Got it. Thanks for the color.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from Darrin Peller of Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

Darrin Peller

Analyst

Hey, guys. I want to hone in on the Digital Wallet growth rate potential for a minute. When we started it off with what we're seeing in the quarter at 7%, I know a big part of the thesis on the story is the opportunity on Digital Wallet long -term. And that encompasses both the Digital Wallet side and the digitization of eCash as well. But when we think about versus the 7% and bridging that, whether it's anniversary you're referral partners or all the new products and Crypto or the U.S. opportunity, to something that I think is better into the double-digits you'd expect sustainably. Can you just walk us through those steps to get from 7% to potentially low-to-mid teens or something along those lines?

Philip McHugh

Management

Hey, Darrin, a great question as always. Again, in the first quarter, we talked about exiting some of those network accounts in some specific markets. It's about a $20 million headwind in the first quarter is what we talked about. We're still seeing some of those impacts in the second, third quarter albeit at a lower level. And that's why it's turned from negative growth to positive growth. Because of the long-term basis, we really think about three things, one is just that core customer growth as we lap some of these legacy issues and you get back to some good strong and steady growth. Two is obviously the U.S. and Canada are two markets that are opening up, and in fact, that's so in Latin America is an area where gaming is growing, we do have some good positions there, some good customer basis. So we see that the geographic pieces, creating some nice lift. And the third one is really Crypto. We really do like this business. We see it more and more as becoming a major payment rail over time. We see it very similar to where iGaming was, let's say 10 years ago. And so we like that positioning. The Digital Wallets is very well-positioned there as driving sign-ups. So those are really the three big factors when I do the math to get us back to the kind of consistent 15+% growth.

Izzy Dawood

Management

Yeah. And Darrin, I think you'll see it in 2 other aspects. In Q3, we start seeing that seasonal, quieter activity just because there are fewer games. But Q4 is when we're expecting the full good comparison to start showing up where you start seeing double-digit growth in Digital Wallets revenue.

Darrin Peller

Analyst

Just timing on that would be what? Next year in your views or in '22?

Philip McHugh

Management

For that, we'll start to see a good Q4 with some initial double-digit. And then in 2022, we'll start to see some more consistent growth.

Darrin Peller

Analyst

Okay. And then -- thanks, Philip. Just quickly on the overall guidance, just how should we think about volume guidance for the year just given the moving parts and all the different puts and takes, I think you had previously said about a $100-$210 billion for the full year, and then just to, Izzy, if we could just finalize on the guidance for Q3, we're still getting investor questions on the puts and takes there, in terms of just making sure we have it straight because it seems like if you incorporate somewhat, around mid-teens Growth. In terms of the merchant or even high single-digit in the wallet side, the digital side, it's hard to get to numbers where you're guiding. It just seems pretty conservative unless we're missing something. So just maybe remind us of all the -- any element of conservatism in the outlook that you're putting in there, just how if we're missing anything? Thanks again, guys.

Philip McHugh

Management

Sure. So a couple of things. One is on the volume side for -- I'll just start for the full year. Our volumes are going to come in meaningfully higher. We thinking it'd be probably closer to 130 billion to 140 billion actually, for the full-year. But again, that's just depending on how quickly or how fast integrated processing really grows but it's definitely higher than what we thought earlier in the year. That's one regardless of puts and takes on Q3, and just sticking to that, Darrin, a little bit more. eCash, obviously, we expect in the -- I would say above 8%-10% year-on-year. We see integrated processing also, and this is -- includes everything about, probably 10%-15% on integrated processing. Digital Wallets, year-on-year in Q3 will be a little weaker. Again it's just a challenging comp, because Q3, 2020 really had a bunch of sporting events and lockdowns in Europe. And Q3 this year is effectively going to be great, quiet seasonally and as expected. So Q3 year-over-year comps basically have a decrease likely in revenue. Effectively it's slightly lower than Q2. That will make it a new one.

Darrin Peller

Analyst

Okay. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from Josh Levin of Autonomous Research. Please go ahead.

Josh Levin

Analyst

Hi. Good morning. I would like to ask a follow-up question on your Latin American expansion. A few months ago, I guess, back when the deal was announced in December, with your analyst presentation back in March, I remember the growth story here, really being about the season in the U.S. iGaming opportunity. Does the LatAm expansion strikes you as a bit of a change in strategy? is that accurate? And if so, what has caused your thinking on LatAm to evolve? And I guess the follow-up would be what -- how would you describe -- or what would be Paysafe's competitive advantage in Latin America? Thank you.

Philip McHugh

Management

Thanks, Josh. I wouldn't call it a change in strategy at all. We talked very clearly about three buckets. We talked about winning in iGaming. We talked about expanding in deep verticals, either through APM s or through gateways. Those were the buckets of investments we talked about very consistent throughout. We still really like the U.S. iGaming we are investing in there. If we see the right deal for U.S. iGaming, we would be clearly an interested player there. That doesn't change our strategy at all. What we really liked about SafetyPay and PagoEfectivo is what I talked about earlier. One, when I look at the APMs, we do credit and debit card processing. We provide digital wallet sub-grade pay payout capabilities. We offer eCash, and more and more, we see Open Banking and Crypto as incredibly important payment rails. And when you do this, you're really completing all of the payment options for a merchant to grow. We see this in iGaming. We see this in a lot of our emerging verticals. So as we started to look at the deals, we got close and close. We really started to get more excited about it. It's started initially, there's an eCash cross-sell that's a nice play. But more and more, these are verticals therein. They're in iGaming. The clients that I have in Europe, that we have in the U.S. they have LatAm strategies. We can provide that now. So a single integration can get you a much broader set of payments across more and more markets. So it is driven by our client needs and there's lots of common overlap there. Two, we think Open Banking is a pretty major trend. It's a very attractive payment form factor. And we think expanding that Latin America into other emerging markets, is strategically very important, It definitely complements our iGaming position. It definitely complements our emerging vertical position as well. So those are the real drivers that we really like from a strategic point of view.

Josh Levin

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from Timothy Chiodo of Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Timothy Chiodo

Analyst

Thanks a lot. And echo Jamie's comments there on the Slide 20 is pretty helpful. I appreciate that. I'll come back to a follow-up on that one, but quickly on the guidance and I know we kind of hit on this earlier. I just want to drill in a little bit more. Relative to when you last reiterated the full-year guidance at the last earnings call, how is your take on the mix between Q3 and Q4 shifted? In other words, is this roughly the seasonality that you would have expected? Or are there some things that are happening under the hood that are positive that are giving you more confidence in what would seem to be a slightly implied higher Q4 exit rate heading into 2022?

Philip McHugh

Management

Yeah. Hey, Tim, great question. And you're right. If you recall, we did talk about seeing how July, August,t kind of play out, right? In terms of if it's going to be anywhere close to 2020 or seasonally quieter compared to prior years. So this was always kind of where our expectation was there COVID. Post-COVID recovery comes through, we'll see obviously quieter activity in Europe, which we're seeing, and then a robust rebound in Q4. So relative to how we are planning and thinking about it, historically, how we're seeing this gaming activity. They're just kind of where we thought it would play out. And to your second point, in terms of an exit rate in Q4, we feel pretty confident about that, granted, there is going to be some seasonality that drives it. But overall, given the recovery, direct marketing, and the real strong pipeline in our integrated e-commerce business gives us a pretty good out, pretty good confidence welcoming you to Q4.

Timothy Chiodo

Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you, Izzy. The follow-up is on Slide 20 on the integrated e-commerce segment. The take rate there and the 50 to 60 Basis points range. Could you just recap for us again, the reasons why that it's a little bit lower than U.S. acquiring? Is it things like Gateway mix? I think is a big part of it, but also is there a large merchant mix? Is there something with the verticals? Just a little more context on why that e-commerce take rate is a little bit lower than U.S. acquiring?

Philip McHugh

Management

Yeah. I'll take that one. I think it's really important to call out, so the U.S. is a scale, we're a very scaled U.S. SMB player, right? So we're dealing with a smaller end of merchants with a mix of card-present card-not-present. So that -- they take rates you see there are very much in line with where the industry sits in the U.S. market. Our e-commerce business is global. It is focused on specialized verticals. These are larger international 100% e-commerce merchants, right. It's 100% digital. There is no card-present business here. So that's the profile of clients. So it's an iGaming client, it's video gaming, it is Crypto trading clients, it's travel. That's the type of sector that we're looking at. We can process in multiple markets. The mix of our gateway with single API, plugging in eCash and Digital Wallets and other APM's, risk management, that formula is really, really working. And so what you get is this larger scale e-commerce. So the margins are lower. The take rates are much lower, but because they are international and fairly specialized, you land more in the 50 to 60 Basis points versus let's say the 30 to 40 Basis points for an e - retailer if you will. So that's the profile of that business and we do see continued growth, very strong growth in that channel. We like what's happening there.

Timothy Chiodo

Analyst

Thank you, Philip. As a quick follow-up, though, within that though, is there -- could you give me a rough sense of what portion of that is gateway only versus the portion that's taking acquiring risk?

Philip McHugh

Management

It's a good question. I don't have that to hand. We can follow up. We'll go on that exact split. Then -- it's going to be a fairly significant portion we'll have acquiring on it. But I don't have the exact split to hand. So we can follow up with you to give you that breakdown.

Timothy Chiodo

Analyst

Okay. Appreciate that. Thanks for taking those questions.

Operator

Operator

Unfortunately, we have run out of time for questions today. I would like to turn the floor back over to Mr. McHugh for closing comments.

Philip McHugh

Management

Thanks. Thanks to everyone for the questions. We look forward to plenty of follow-up calls and conversations. I'll wrap it up with the following. Look, we really like what's happening in Q2 and the execution of the numbers. We're particularly excited about delivering an iGaming and being the de facto winner in the U.S. market. We really like the pipeline and the growth we're seeing in our emerging verticals. When you combine our e-commerce, you combine our Digital Wallets, you combine our eCash, and now Open Banking. We think we have a mix and a formula that is winning in some very, very valuable areas. We don't like the direct marketing noise just to our numbers, but we really like the business and we see that as a tailwind coming in next year. But overall, when we look at the pipeline in that direction, we feel very confident on the direction we feel very confident on the long-term thesis as well. And look forward to continuing to tell that story. Thanks, everybody.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect your lines, or log off the webcast at this time, and have a wonderful day.