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Operator
Operator
Greetings, and welcome to the Primoris Services Reports 2016 Second Quarter Financial Results. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Ms. Kate Tholking. Thank you, Ms. Tholking. You may begin.
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Kate A. Tholking - Director-Investor Relations
Management
Thank you, Tim. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. Our speakers for today will be David King, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Pete Moerbeek, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that statements made during today's call may contain certain forward-looking statements, including with regard to the company's future performance. Words such as estimated, believes, expects, projects, may, and future, or similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements inherently involve risks and uncertainties, including without limitation those discussed in this morning's press release and those detailed in the Risk Factors section and other portions in our Annual Report on Form 10-K for the period ended December 31, 2015, and our Quarterly Report on the Form 10-Q for the period ended June 30, 2016, which we plan on filing this coming Monday, and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Primoris does not undertake any obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise, except as may be required under applicable securities laws. I'd now like to turn the call over to our CEO, David King. David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. Our second quarter results year-over-year improved, but our second quarter net income results were not in-line with our expectations, primarily due to our highway work in Texas. I wish we had better news to share with you because we are disappointed with these results. While there are some bright lights and positive movements, I'll start by discussing areas where we're facing challenges, and as I know you're all looking to understand what happened this quarter. In the East…
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Operator
Operator
Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. Our first question comes from the line of Lee Jagoda of CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.
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Lee Jagoda - CJS Securities, Inc.
Analyst
Hi. Good morning.
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Good morning, Lee.
LI
Lee Jagoda - CJS Securities, Inc.
Analyst
So just starting with the TxDOT work. Other than weather, were there any other big issues that impacted you in the shorter term? Or was this just more of a continuation of the issues that have occurred in previous quarters and you may have not written down enough before?
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: No, Lee, it really was, I think you'd heard me talk before on some other earnings calls that we have had some pretty good meetings with TxDOT, a partnership meeting to try to expedite some of that work along I-35 because that work when it was originally led, as Pete said, five or six years ago, there was a lot of delays in that project, even before the project started. Utilities that had to make moved in a lot of the work that TxDOT had to get done. But toward the end of the first – late last year and then obviously continuing in the first quarter, we all felt like we could accelerate that job, those two that we're mentioning, and have them finished by mid-year, the June-July timeframe. TxDOT saw that as a good undertaking by us. And obviously, with our relationship with them, which is very solid and still very solid, and knowing that we got some in what we call claims, they're not legal issues. They're – obviously, we're referring to claims therein as change orders. But we wanted to make sure that we finish those things in that June or July timeframe to be able to relieve some of that congestion on the I-35 highway system. We poured a lot of time and effort into it. Obviously you picked up there, the rain did affect us. But when you're pouring a lot of extra effort and acceleration into those projects, you've got a lot of extra workers in there on those projects and a lot of different work fronts. So we actually had some productivity hits therein. If we had not accelerated them and just continued them out over a three- or four-month period, we probably would not have seen some of that productivity hit. So we had labor hits, productivity hits, a little bit of the – we had adequate resources. That wasn't an issue. Now middle of last year, we had issues with having adequate resources. But the real issue was just labor productivity and weather delay.
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Lee Jagoda - CJS Securities, Inc.
Analyst
Okay. And then as I look at the East margins, if I adjust for the $12 million write-down, the gross margin of the East would have been about 9.7%. That seems on the higher side of things. Are there any additional favorable offsets in that number as well?
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Well, if you remember in the East, and Pete can get into more color for you later on it too. But in the East we had the I&M work with Sasol. That was a quite bit of work that was going underway. We've also, as I mentioned on a few other earnings call, we really started having our Heavy Civil Group not only look at highway work. We've actually picked up some airport work, which carries a little bit higher margin than the highway work would carry. So a combination therein of those factors I think helped drive that margin up.
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Lee Jagoda - CJS Securities, Inc.
Analyst
Okay. And then I'll leave you with one just broader question. If I look at the three segments of your business, looking out over the next 18 months – I know you've given guidance for the next 12 months – can you speak broadly about the trajectory of some of the end markets? And the drivers behind them?
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yes. I mean I guess I can start with the one that we see as the biggest one for us is this gas pipeline market that I mentioned with our Rockford group. And we're also with our Primoris Pipeline group picking up some of that work. There's tremendous upside opportunities there, as some more of those permits get approved and right-of-ways or routings get approved. So we continue to see that a very healthy and good market for us. Our utilities and distribution markets, although you heard us mention about our ARB Underground in California maybe not moving as fast, you did hear me talk about Q3C burning through theirs. And we're obviously looking where we can add more capabilities there in another region. So we still see utilities and distribution. Yeah. We've had this hiccup in the highway work on these two projects. But there's still a lot of drive in the State of Texas and even in Louisiana with some of the funding that they're going to do on programs. So we still see some good opportunities, upward growth in those two markets of Texas and Louisiana. I would primarily say those are the three biggest areas that we're seeing. Industrial work for us in our PES group, we're beginning to see some new opportunities arrive, mostly around methanol projects, hydrogen and HyCO facilities, industrial gas facilities. We have seen the slowdown in the LNG side of the business. But definitely continue to see the industrial side in that Gulf Coast, a steady market for us. On our ARB Industrial side out here in California, as I mentioned, if we can ever get this NRG project off, then we'll see some good revenue burn and profitability therein. And I will say that Tim and them are tracking quite a number of prospects, again both in our union side and the industrial side and our Saxon side of the open-shop. So we are seeing some power projects out there that can show some upside for us.
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Lee Jagoda - CJS Securities, Inc.
Analyst
Great. I will hop back in queue. Thank you.
Peter J. Moerbeek - Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Director: Thanks, Lee.
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Operator
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Matt Tucker of KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.
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Matt Tucker - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.
Analyst · your question.
Hi. Good morning, gentlemen.
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Good morning, Matt.
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Matt Tucker - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.
Analyst · your question.
I guess first question on the guidance. I assume even with the pipelines delay that they're still started and completed within the next four quarters. And you've got the large petrochemical project still continuing through the next four quarters. It sounds like the power plant has moved out though. So I guess aside from the power plant moving out, could you just talk about what else is driving the lower outlook versus the – versus last quarter?
Peter J. Moerbeek - Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Director: I think that we're not 100% certain. We agree with you on the pipeline project. So we're a little bit concerned that you've moved pipeline out of quarter. And then you may get past the June timeframe for finishing those two Florida projects. So that's part of – it's actually a significant portion of what we're looking at. If they don't start till the end or close to the end of fourth quarter, you've got a pretty high probability they may stretch out further. So it's that. There are a couple of projects that we were looking at for our OnQuest group. They were building some mini micro LNGs that we now think they're still in the pipeline, but they're going to get pushed out further. So I think if you add all of that together, that's the primary reason.
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Matt Tucker - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.
Analyst · your question.
Got it. Thanks, Pete. And you'd know better than me on the pipe project so no argument there. Just looking at the energy segment; the backlog is just under $70 million. You've been running it over $100 million, run rate in revenue. Is it fair to assume that the revenue drops off there fairly steeply going forward?
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: No. Let me make a comment, and then Pete can even give you some numbers. I mentioned in my scripted notes that we were expecting, we had some projects already ready to sign. But we were expecting some fairly large expansion on some petrochemical work for the industrial group. Once that comes through, and to me, it's just a timing. We've already been notified. It's just a matter of getting the paperwork through. You would see that backlog jump significantly in there, maybe another. What, Pete?
Peter J. Moerbeek - Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Director: Well, if you remember on both our press release and on David's comments, we added $46.6 million to the backlog number that we have for the large petrochem project. That, we don't think is the final number. We think that number is going to increase somewhat dramatically more than that and will start to get you to a backlog number that makes sense. It's just – we haven't been awarded that. And so didn't want to be in a position where we were putting something in the backlog. Some of it's come, and we're expecting to see more of that over the next month or two.
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: And, Matt, I'll make one other comment while we're talking. Again, I'm specifically talking about our open-shop industrial, the James Industrial Group. We're tracking and seeing a couple of different methanol projects. One specifically that we feel very, very good about. Obviously, it's not awarded yet that would, in addition to the large petrochemical project we've mentioned, be another fairly substantial award for that group. We're also looking at some low density polyethylene de-bottlenecking projects. And then one of the really key things we do, and I mentioned a little bit on these industrial gas organizations such as the Air Liquides and Air Products [and Chemicals] and Praxairs and things. As we do a lot of mechanical erection on some of the hydrogen units. And we're seeing some opportunities there again also.
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Matt Tucker - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.
Analyst · your question.
Thanks, guys. That's very helpful color. And then switching gears to East construction and, in particular, to the Heavy Civil market. Overall in used construction your new awards run rate has really fallen off over the past several quarters versus the 2011, 2014 type timeframe. I imagine a significant portion of that is on the Heavy Civil side. And some of your competitors have actually been talking about a fairly robust bidding activity, particularly in Texas. So just curious kind of what – I guess what's been going on there with your bookings run rate? Have you been kind of de-emphasizing the Heavy Civil market? Has the win rate been going down? If you could just kind of comment on your bookings trends there.
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yeah. I think it was a conscientious decision, put it that way, Matt. As I mentioned earlier in the 2014, 2015 timeframe with a lot of that work going on down to the I-35, Austin was having such a building program going on as well as other cities in Texas, that it was hard to give some adequate labor resources. So we actually tuned back a little bit because we had a tremendous backlog of work and good work for us. And so we actually tuned it back a little bit so that we didn't go after some additional work that we might not be able to handle. I think you'll see that begin to turn around as we work these other projects off.
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Matt Tucker - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.
Analyst · your question.
Great. Thanks, guys. I'll jump back in the queue.
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Operator
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Jason Wangler of Wunderlich. Please proceed with your question.
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Jason A. Wangler - Wunderlich Securities, Inc.
Analyst · your question.
Good morning. I was curious about the pipelines in Florida. I think from chatting in the past that there were some – you guys had to be ready when they called and I think vice versa as far as some penalties that they would pay. Am I correct in that those work at the end of the year is when those would be enforced or is there a timing issue there where you guys have kind of a drop dead where you'd start getting paid?
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: You're correct. The projects, if they canceled the projects, there were some fees. If they continued on and they would get to a point to where they had to put us on the paid standby. And if you remember in my comments indeed that's what's happening. Although we're over there on one particular project, unloading pipe and things of that nature, we're just on kind of a paid standby. The other project has not got to that date of when they have to start doing something similar, but you're correct except they are doing exactly what they said. They put us on page standby. There's a good thing and a bad thing about page standby. The good thing is you get paid. The bad thing is you're not making a lot of money and you don't have your equipment rolling and for our Rockford group, once we get our equipment rolling, that's really where we need to move is get our equipment moving. We have a lot of revenue burn with those major equipment items and we obviously have the potential to make margin and so that's one of the reasons our guidance has changed and just waiting to see when we can get those kicked off.
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Jason A. Wangler - Wunderlich Securities, Inc.
Analyst · your question.
Okay. But obviously, with them paying something at least there's probably an onus that they want to get going as fast as you guys do as well. In California on the power plant project, is there something we should be watching specifically for to get that project kicked off? I know we've been waiting for the better part, almost of the year now, but is there a certain regulatory issue or vote or anything that we should be kind of watching that maybe unlocks that or is it just more kind of going through the process?
Peter J. Moerbeek - Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Director: It is unfortunately. The case is in the appellate court in California. It is a Sierra Club and a couple other agencies or groups suing the California Utility Commission. So there is nothing that the owner of the plant, there is nothing that the end customers in San Diego, or there's nothing the construction company can do while the appellate court decides whether to even hear the case and then what it means. Most of us expect that they will reach some sort of decision sometime this year. That's kind of, you know when I said our guidance is that we could start at the very end of the year, early next year. But until the court's rule, there is not – the Utility Commission cannot give the notice to proceed or the approval to proceed. So it is not up to anybody except what the courts decide to do out here.
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Jason A. Wangler - Wunderlich Securities, Inc.
Analyst · your question.
Okay. Great. I'll turn it back. Thank you.
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Thanks, Jason.
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Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Dan Mannes of Avondale. Please proceed with your question.
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Daniel Mannes - Avondale Partners LLC
Analyst · your question.
Thanks. Hey, everybody.
Peter J. Moerbeek - Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Director: Good morning, Dan.
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Daniel Mannes - Avondale Partners LLC
Analyst · your question.
A couple follow-ups here. SG&A, the $7 million decline year-over-year was a big step down on a first-half basis. How much of that is reduction of variable comps that given performance, versus how much is actually a real net reduction in terms of cost?
Peter J. Moerbeek - Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Director: Well those of us that get incentive comp would argue with your word real but the numbers are roughly the same for both halves. So the answer to your question is minimal impact. As a metric I think we're $100,000 higher or $200,000 higher for the first six months this year on incentive comp than we were last year at this time. So I don't want to say it's real or unreal SG&A, but we have really made a conscious effort both on the reducing places where we think we can from a people standpoint, as well as making some of the changes, trying to reduce the legal costs, and some of it is a little bit of – a million or so is due to the way that we make sure that our accounting – we're starting to charge the projects for legal costs rather than putting them in SG&A.
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Daniel Mannes - Avondale Partners LLC
Analyst · your question.
All right. You're right, Pete. It's not that it's real or unreal because obviously it hits you guys, but we're assuming you're ultimately going to earn that stuff again next year. So it'll come back, let's put it that way.
Peter J. Moerbeek - Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Director: Yes. Let's hope so.
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Daniel Mannes - Avondale Partners LLC
Analyst · your question.
Got it. Moving on to a couple other quick topics. As it relates to the energy power plant, I don't know if you can comment on this but given the length of time and the potential change in the market, at what point, as long as this is hung up, do you end up having to renegotiate or even rebid this thing? Because I mean you're now, what, plus a year past your original bid, or past the original award.
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yeah. Actually, Dan, we've been doing that as we've been going along.
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Daniel Mannes - Avondale Partners LLC
Analyst · your question.
Okay.
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: That's been an ongoing process with NRG and very open. They're a great customer with us. We've done work with them, doing this work and going to do a lot more work with them in the future. And so we've been going along with that. The real issue gets to be a point to where the end dates become difficult for the offtake agreements. Anyway, it begins to get pressure more on NRG to say, okay now we've got to look at changing some agreements they have in place. But we've been going all along in discussions with them. So there won't really be a re-bid, renegotiation type thing on it.
Peter J. Moerbeek - Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Director: Yeah. Dan, the biggest changes will be obviously their LDs and the specific date tied to LDs, and at the rate they're going we may be at the LD position before we start the project.
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Daniel Mannes - Avondale Partners LLC
Analyst · your question.
Okay. On the E segment, given the takedown in margins on Belton, the fact that it doesn't finish until the third quarter. Should we assume there's going to be a chunk of really low margin revenue in the third quarter?
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Well we better hope not.
Peter J. Moerbeek - Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Director: But the answer is, from an accounting standpoint, yes?
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yes.
Peter J. Moerbeek - Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Director: I won't say a chunk but – hopefully it will actually be positive – but you're going to see some revenue. It's not all that dramatic because we really are toward the end of the job that will be at zero percent margin because we've obviously provided for the loss.
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Still burning revenue but no margin.
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Daniel Mannes - Avondale Partners LLC
Analyst · your question.
Right, right. And then as we look at the guide, I mean this is still again the biggest surprise for me. So when I think through kind of this shift from $1.15, the $1.30 to now the $0.90 to $1.10, part of that is the fact that instead of four quarters of major pipeline work, you think there might be some reduced amount, I don't know maybe two or three quarters? You have maybe two quarters left of Carlsbad, and then I'm assuming also maybe a reduction in your view on the Energy – on the E segment as now the petrochem work is reduced. Would those be the three big components and can you allocate among them? Or am I missing something particularly important?
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: No, I am not going to allocate them. But what I will tell you, there is also a couple OnQuest mini micro LNG facilities that are in the pipeline that keep getting pushed out that have an impact on that. The total change is somewhere in the $28 million to $30 million range and I think if you put the ones that you've mentioned and add some of those, that you're not very far from having gotten most of it.
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Daniel Mannes - Avondale Partners LLC
Analyst · your question.
Okay. And the last thing is, just on the Heavy Civil side. Over the past twelve months or so, we've seen a number of times where you've been the announced low bidder, for instance on TxDOT, and yet we haven't necessarily seen you guys PR-ing them as awards. I think David may have mentioned this but how much – or I don't know if you can quantify how much sort of pending work is out there that you know you're the low bidder on that just for whatever reason hasn't been signed off. Can you talk at all to maybe why that's been hung up there as long as it has?
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yeah. I can give you a little bit of color on that Dan. I think I've even mentioned it in my notes. I think it's about $140 million worth roughly, contracts that we've been notified on. One of them we are a designated subcontractor to a prime contractor. And the prime contractors, he has to go through to get his paperwork in order and get it all signed before we can get ours signed with them. That's one of the ones. The other one is just – I'm just telling you with some of this TxDOT, even though you're awarded, it may take you sometimes two months and three months to get that contract signed. Because TxDOT, I will give them some accolades, we've been working with them hard as a lot of contractors has over these last four quarters or five quarters to say, look guys, you can't start these jobs and then automatically say, give us a six-month delay. So we've got to work better if we're going to get these things built on time. So they're getting better, but they're still not expedient with getting some of those signed as quickly as possible.
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Daniel Mannes - Avondale Partners LLC
Analyst · your question.
But how much of that $140 million is TxDOT? Is that the majority of it? Or is it all across your portfolio?
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: It's all across.
Peter J. Moerbeek - Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Director: On the Heavy Civil.
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: On the Heavy Civil.
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Daniel Mannes - Avondale Partners LLC
Analyst · your question.
Okay. But it is $140 million specifically in Heavy Civil.
Peter J. Moerbeek - Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Director: Yes.
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yes. Yes.
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Daniel Mannes - Avondale Partners LLC
Analyst · your question.
Got it. And then I'm sorry, the final question as it relates to the pipeline jobs, we've obviously heard various things over the last couple months in terms of where they stand on their local water permits. It sounded like your guidance was a late 3Q start. And I think that was what you said. Can you confirm that, number one? And number two, can you talk about maybe any more recent dialogue you had and your confidence level on that, given what we've kind of been through the last couple months?
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Well I'll let Pete tell you where we've got it in the guidance at.
Peter J. Moerbeek - Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Director: No, it is not in third quarter.
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Daniel Mannes - Avondale Partners LLC
Analyst · your question.
No, I said starting late Q3.
Peter J. Moerbeek - Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Director: Not even – if they're even – no. We're looking at it sometime in fourth quarter.
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Daniel Mannes - Avondale Partners LLC
Analyst · your question.
Okay.
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: And as you know and what you're probably hearing out there in the public domain, because you can check anyway, the Army Corps of Engineers' permit and things like that, that's all okay, my understanding. But you still have to go through at least on one of them to get final FERC approval, which hopefully shouldn't be too bad or take too long. But at this time, that's about the extent that we know. The other one – since the two that we've been awarded are somewhat tied together, one will flow pretty quick behind the other. That's why we've got them both kind of slated in that fourth quarter timeframe. If they come faster, then that helps us.
Peter J. Moerbeek - Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Director: And Dan, we'd be happy to start earlier. We're ready.
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yeah.
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Daniel Mannes - Avondale Partners LLC
Analyst · your question.
We'd be happy to see you start earlier. Thanks again for all the commentary.
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Thanks, Dan. Appreciate your questions.
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Operator
Operator
. Our next question comes from the line of John Rogers of D.A. Davidson. Please proceed with your question. John Bergstrom Rogers - D.A. Davidson & Co.: Hi. Good morning. Peter J. Moerbeek - Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Director: Morning, John. John Bergstrom Rogers - D.A. Davidson & Co.: A couple of just follow-up things, one on Dan's question. Low bids pending the $140 million of Heavy Civil jobs, are there other projects outside of Heavy Civil that you also have pending awards? David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yeah. I think I mentioned in our I&M section. John Bergstrom Rogers - D.A. Davidson & Co.: Yeah. David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: We've got I think it's roughly $50 million or somewhere in $45 million, $50 million range that we're still trying to get the contract signed on. We've got it awarded to us. It's just a matter of dotting the Is and crossing the Ts and finalizing that. You've heard us talk about this large petrochemical project in Louisiana. John Bergstrom Rogers - D.A. Davidson & Co.: Right. David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: That contract already exists, it's just a matter of upping the value on that contract. And I think Pete said, we got about a little over $46 million. And we're expecting substantially more. But those are the three probably major areas that was just a timing that didn't happen in the second quarter that'll happen in the third quarter. John Bergstrom Rogers - D.A. Davidson & Co.: Okay. So that's an additional $240 million, $250 million worth of work out there. David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yeah, exactly. Until we've got a signed contract,…
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Operator
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Matt Tucker from KeyBanc Capital Markets.
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Matt Tucker - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.
Analyst
Hey, guys. Just a few follow-ups. On the pipeline side, I think you mentioned $2.3 billion in opportunities. Sounds like that's the end market you may be the most excited in. Can you talk about the timing of some of these opportunities? Could some of these be awarded in the second half? And then have these delays to the Florida pipelines affected your ability at all to take on some of the opportunities that you were looking at earlier in the year or maybe for the first half of 2017?
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yeah, Matt. Let me start with the last half of your question first. It definitely affected us going after some other work because when we took those two major projects, we committed to those customers and that's why they pay us standby time, that we would have the resources when they were ready to kick them off. And so it definitely, we had some lost opportunity on some other bigger opportunities, or other opportunities. And so we took those forces that we could and went after some of the smaller projects. I mentioned to you that York, project that we finished. It was relatively small but we could get on it and get off of it. We've got one that we're looking at currently that's in the Texas area. I'll just make that comment. I don't want to go too much deeper in the customer, that we would be able to get on and off rather quickly. And not affect any of the spreads that we've got on the other two opportunities. Now, to the first part of your question. We're looking at – we're hopeful, but I will make this comment, every time I say this and we go with what the customer says relative to award dates, they seem to have been slipped off. So I'm going to be very cautious in making this comment, but there's obviously a large project out there that has the potential of being awarded this year before the end of the year, another large pipeline project. And then we've got, as I said in that $2.3 billion worth of opportunities for us, we've got projects in Virginia, West Virginia, Ohio, Arkansas, Texas, it's spread out quite a bit and that's why we feel pretty, we feel that's a robust market still for us.
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Matt Tucker - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.
Analyst
Thanks, David. That was really helpful. Now I also wanted to ask about these micro-LNG projects. They seem to get pushed out. Is that largely just due to the general market softness that we're seeing in LNG or are there more project-specific issues that are affecting those projects?
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Part of it's the general LNG softness but there are some specifics. If you remember those projects are really fit for three things. Either a fueling of railroads, or a fueling of barges and things of that nature, and then obviously just pure transportation side. When the oil business went down there wasn't a lot of fracking going on any longer so some of the fueling of the fracking rigs and things, that was one side of it that came down. The retrofitting on the barges and things with the LNG-burning engines and things are not accelerating as fast because obviously when the price of oil comes down you begin to look at different fuel costs and different economics on them. The projects that we're actually looking at that Pete mentioned earlier, the two that were delayed, one of them is in a pure transportation market. That one is just a matter of negotiations going on between our client and his client and then the other one we went through all the way through T's & C's and some de-scoping of a particular facility in Florida. That one in itself is just waiting for the client to say, yup, he's ready now to do it. Anyway, I don't know if that's enough color for you but that's really where it's at. A little bit of the L&G dampening but more to do with the specifics around the projects.
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Matt Tucker - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.
Analyst
That was very helpful color. And then this last question for me. With some of this MSA work you mentioned coming in lower than expected. I mean, it sounds like that's not work that you expect to be made up of in the second half. Is that correct? Is there anymore color on, I guess, why that's coming lower than expected?
Peter J. Moerbeek - Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Director: You know, there's a couple parts Matt. One of them is in California. We have been doing a lot of work on the PSEP program for one of the large utilities out here. They are getting towards the end of their initial work and they've decided that what they want to do now is they want to get it in the future rates. So it's not a matter of doing the work and going to the Commission to get the rates increase. They want to get the rates increased. So they're looking at maybe as much as a year of much lower work while they go through the process of getting it in rates. Again, as we've said before a lot of this work isn't going away, it's a timing issue. So what you're looking at is, yes, some of the utilities have a three-year rate case in most cases and they've got to spend their money or spend a lot of it in the three-year period, but they have quite a bit of control over where within that period they do. So that's part of the reduction and a little bit apprehension. And again I think you're seeing us trying to be a little bit cautious. The other is that we had MSAs with bunch of customers along the Gulf Coast and you know as the price of oil is stayed low, that's been an issue. We're looking at these MSAs and saying, they're just not coming to the level these days of maintenance work that they were forecasting and planning themselves as they're trying to conserve cash.
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Matt Tucker - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.
Analyst
Thanks, Pete. I'll leave it there.
Peter J. Moerbeek - Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer & Director: Terrific.
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There are no further questions in the Q&A portion of the conference. I would now like to turn the conference back over to David King for closing remarks.
David L. King - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Well, normally I'll make a quick closing but I just want to say one thing in closing. You know, I'm personally disappointed with our results this quarter. But I'm not disappointed with the efforts that we had with Primoris team. You know, when I look at, and we've made these comments today, when I look at the backlog, you know except for the timing, I think our backlog is holding up. We're definitely holding up in our cash and balance sheet. We do have our SG&A under control and we're going to look at it even further, and I still think we've got adequate opportunities. So with that being said, I still think we have a very optimistic outlook for the company. I do appreciate you joining us on the call today. We appreciate all your questions and thanks again for your interest.
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