Earnings Labs

PRA Group, Inc. (PRAA)

Q4 2015 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 25, 2016

$22.13

+0.84%

Key Takeaways · AI generated
AI summary not yet generated for this transcript. Generation in progress for older transcripts; check back soon, or browse the full transcript below.

Same-Day

-15.84%

1 Week

+1.30%

1 Month

+9.04%

vs S&P

+4.14%

Transcript

Operator

Operator

Good afternoon and welcome to the PRA Group Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I would now like to turn your conference over to Ms. Darby Schoenfeld, Director of Investor Relations for PRA Group. You may begin.

Darby Schoenfeld

Analyst

Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone and thank you for joining us. With me today are Steve Fredrickson, Chairman and CEO; Kevin Stevenson, President, CAO and an Interim CFO; Neal Stern, Executive Vice President and Chief Investment Analytics and Operational Strategy Officer. Tiku Patel, Chief Executive Officer of PRA Group will also be available during Q&A. The press release announcing our fourth quarter and full year results was distributed this afternoon and is available on the Investors section of our website at www.pragroup.com as well as the slides that accompany this webcast. A replay of this call will be available shortly after its conclusion. The information needed to listen to the replay is contained in the earnings press release. The press release issued this afternoon and slides attached and other matters discussed on the call may contain or be considered forward-looking statements, including, but not limited to, PRA Group’s or its management projections for the future, the level of net sales globally, potential impact of further lawmaking, rulemaking regulatory law enforcement activities on our industry’s practices and anticipated changes in foreign exchange rates. Actual events or results could differ materially from historical results or those expressed or implied in any forward-looking statements as a result of various risks and uncertainties, some of which are not known as to us. These include the risk factors and other risks that are described from time-to-time in PRA Group’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission and will be publicly disclosed in any future reports that maybe filed with the SEC after today. Any such forward-looking statements speak only as of the date they are made. Except as required by applicable laws or regulations, PRA Group has no obligation to update any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances that occur after the date they are made whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. All comparisons mentioned today will be between Q4 2015 and Q4 2014 unless otherwise noted. During our call, we will be discussing financial information that includes non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to our fourth quarter and full year 2015 earnings release issued earlier today and our current report on Form 8-K filed with the SEC for the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures and reconciliation to the non-GAAP financial measures discussed. Both of these can be found on the Investor Relations section of our website. I would now like to turn the call over to Steve Fredrickson, our Chairman and CEO.

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

Thank you, Darby. Instead of getting into the details for you this quarter, I am going to talk to you about a few overarching themes that I believe are the most important areas for PRA to focus on right now. In March of this year, PRA Group will celebrate its 20th anniversary. Kevin Stevenson and I as Co-Founders have seen incredible amount of change and transformation in both our company and the industry in which we compete during those years, more than 13 of them as a public company. In fact, this is the 53rd earnings call, Kevin and I have done together since our 2002 IPO. As we always have, Kevin and I are managing PRA for the long-term, focusing on optimizing the firm’s long-term performance regardless of the short-term notice we face. From inception and listed in every one of our annual reports, there are operating principles that we have built this business on. I would like to quote some for you. First, invest carefully with a long-term view. We have built a diverse portfolio across business lines and stay true to our methodology. We make sure each investment whether it’s a portfolio or a business. It’s been reviewed, assessed objectively and priced to achieve appropriate returns. The second operating principle was to contain costs and boost productivity. To keep costs low and productivity high, we operate fewer, larger call centers. We developed and retained great employees to deliver great customer service. And finally, maintain a conservative capital structure. We keep debt levels as low as possible. We borrow prudently to expand and to build a more integrated business. In turn, these and our other four long-held operating principles have allowed us to create significant shareholder value by delivering superior financial results year-after-year. Even in a year like…

Kevin Stevenson

Analyst

Thank you, Steve. On a GAAP basis in the fourth quarter, we collected $369 million in cash. $196 million in Americas core, $74 million in Americas insolvency and $100 million in Europe. This led to $230 million in revenue, $71 million in operating income, and $41 million in net income. Earnings per diluted share were $0.86 and annualized ROI in the quarter was 19.8%. For the year, cash collections were $1.54 billion, $845 million in Americas core, $344 million in American insolvency and $351 million in Europe. Total revenues were $942 million, generating $310 million in operating income and $168 million in net income. Earnings per diluted share were $3.47 and ROE was 19.9%. To better reflect ongoing operations, we have again adjusted for a number of items. Our goal is to assist you in better understanding the company’s operating performance. For the quarter and year, these items are number one, costs associated with our CFPB settlement of $28.8 million, which includes an $8 million penalty that is not tax deductible. There was no impact in the quarter for this item. Number two, acquisition and other integration expenses related to Aktiv Kapital, RCB and RMSC of $1.6 million for the quarter and $5.6 million for the full year. Number three, one-time tax items of $2 million for our year-to-date results, no impact for the quarter. Number four, legal costs not associated with normal operations of $12 million for the quarter and $13.8 million for the full year, the majority of which relates to an accrual of the settlement of the TCPA lawsuit. And number five, we have adjusted to reflect constant currency with Q4 of 2014 for the quarter and constant currency for Q3 and Q4 for the full year results. There is a full reconciliation of these non-GAAP items…

Neal Stern

Analyst

Thanks Kevin. During the quarter, we collected just over $2.5 million domestic payments. The average payment size fell by 1.8% due to a mix shift as accounts continued to pay more prominently in our call centers as opposed to [indiscernible] our legal collection channel. Our average payment sizes are larger. For instance in the quarter, the average call center payment was 21% lower than the average legal payment. We believe that consumer financial health and operational effectiveness can be better measured by examining the amount of cash collected for acquisition score point. By examining what we collect relative to our initial assumptions on a consumer’s financial health, we get a better read on macroeconomic impacts and can eliminate collection channel mix changes from the equation. In the fourth quarter that result was 4% higher than it was in the fourth quarter of 2014. This increase was most pronounced in our call centers and accounts and that have been purchased in 2013 and 2014. As Kevin mentioned, the quarterly pools purchased in those years continued to over perform our original level yield expectations amounts reflected in this metric as well. Collections per square point over performance may have slowed relative to a prior time period, but relative to our initial modeling the over performance remains. As Steve mentioned at this point, we see no evidence of recessionary pressure on our consumers. The call centers continue to benefit from improvements in scoring that have ultimately reduced incremental calling in the segments that were producing returns below our desired return thresholds over time and we anticipate that this trend will be sustained over the next year. Total legal cash collections for the quarter were down by $3.5 million or 4% over last year. External legal collections represented 52% of that total and internal…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of David Scharf from JMP Securities. Your line is now open.

David Scharf

Analyst

Thanks. Good afternoon. A few things to start with, Steve maybe just to get it out of the way for some just definition, I want to make sure I understood the revision of the sort of long-term internal goals in the absence of the BK market improving, is that designed as sort of adjusted EPS growth or can you just want to make sure, I am clear on the metrics we are looking at?

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

Yes. We are talking about GAAP EPS, David.

David Scharf

Analyst

GAAP EPS. Got it. And just curious when we consider the inputs to that, just some of the near-term headwinds, when we have got the, obviously the lack of BK inventory for the OCC and regulatory issues sighted. Plus the I think your talked a little bit about maybe some delays in legal recoveries that might also be a little bit regulatory driven. And then perhaps issues related to TCPA or other productivity things are regulatory driven, is it fair to say that sort of the near-term revised outlook is overwhelmingly the result of the BK runoff or some of the other factors also material?

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

I would say that the vast majority of the impact is the BK runoff. The other operational issues, I would say are headwinds, but really aren’t all that different from other challenges that we face year in and year out.

David Scharf

Analyst

Got it. And can you elaborate a little on the TCPA matter, I mean, is this once approved is it anticipated that this isn’t the kind of matter that another party can bring against you?

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

Well, the TCPA case that we have got against us is not similar from what I think most businesses in the U.S. that contact consumers also have outstanding against them. And it’s a consolidated class. And so we anticipate that as we are able to settle this thing, that it will remove that issue from us on a comprehensive basis.

Neal Stern

Analyst

And David, this is Neal. Just to be clear, the TCPA thing is not a headwind. This has been in place for many years now. This is not a change. This is just settling some litigation that’s been outstanding. The requirement from an operational standpoint is that you make the dials manually. And we have been doing that for a long time. There is no change there. That is not a headwind.

David Scharf

Analyst

Okay, got it. And then lastly and then I will get back in queue. I guess, this speaks to the increased productivity you are seeing in your domestic call centers, but I was just taking another look at your – in your metrics, the number of full-time equivalent collectors, which has actually come down materially even though the pace of collections is improving. As we think about operating margins next year would that 2,173 kind of headcount of collectors, is there opportunity for that to decline further? Just trying to get a sense for the shifting concentration out of legal lower cost call center and what that does mean for your margins as well as the ramping up of productivity of your call center in Europe now?

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

So, as I tried to allude to I think the call center productivity trend at the moment is likely to be sustained. We have had some very interesting things happened in our analytics and we continue to leverage that. And so we think there is some ability to service fee on trend there. On the flipside of the coin on the legal side, I think it’s also fair to assume that, that spend could come back up as some of those documentation issues get resolved and that process sort of comes back in line and we moved through some of these short-term issues. And so there maybe a bit of an offset there, nothing massive, but I would expect legal spend to trend in the opposite direction.

David Scharf

Analyst

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Bob Napoli from William Blair. Your line is now open.

Bob Napoli

Analyst

Okay, thank you. I guess the understanding that the bankruptcy market, that you can’t expect that to come back next year and the big sellers you don’t know when they are going to come back, but based on the market the way it is today, would you expect your core to be able to buy core in the North America similar to what you did in 2015 and ‘16? Is that be reasonable, similar or a little bit more or little bit less?

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

Well, I would say that based on the consolidation in the market from a competitive perspective and activity that we have seen from the sellers that continue to be engaged in the market, there is certainly nothing that we see – that would suggest that we wouldn’t have an opportunity to do at least what we did the last year.

Bob Napoli

Analyst

Okay. And then in Europe, would you expect the same, I mean, you are saying you are seeing pretty good supply. It sounds like there is pretty good supply in Europe you feel. Now, you had a really big purchase in the third quarter, but you feel good about being able to grow purchases in Europe in ‘16?

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

Well, I think that we feel very good about the pipeline that we see across Europe, Bob as to how able we are to ultimately prevail on purchases that will be the tail and the tape for 2016, but we are pleased with the pipeline or at least the raw opportunity that we have got to buy there.

Bob Napoli

Analyst

Okay. And then kind of the amortization rate you had this quarter is that – that includes reversals, some impairments, do you think that amortization rate is something that’s reasonable for next year looking at the mix or would you expect those the impairments to stay around the same level or moderate, but just overall that amortization rate as that seem – the current run-rate seem reasonable or would you think that’s a little higher or little low?

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

Yes, it’s hard to say. I am going to give you a non-answer on that, but I would say that again we always talk about the fact that there should be some allowance charges always with us. So, you probably should take something in that. One of the things that we think about is to the extent that bankruptcy, the bankruptcy buying and bankruptcy collections are moving down and core would replace that theoretically. You should have little lower amortization rate going through that mix as well.

Bob Napoli

Analyst

Okay.

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

So, I think that’s my best advice there by listening is to think about the inherent amortization rate associated with bankruptcy versus core and think about that mix.

Bob Napoli

Analyst

Okay. And then just last question, what’s the tax rate would you be thinking about for 2016?

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

That’s a great question, Bob. So last year while going into ‘15, we are talking about 34% to 37%, I think was our kind of best guess and we came up pretty close to that on a GAAP basis. FX and all that and income mix is always tough, but I think that we would probably say kind of in the 32% to 35% range somewhere in there would be a respectable number to look at.

Bob Napoli

Analyst

Great, thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Mark Hughes from SunTrust. Your line is now open.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

Thank you. Steve, in answering the question about the starting base for the single-digit earnings growth, did you say GAAP or adjusted?

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

GAAP.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

So, if we look at GAAP, GAAP is roughly 347, which includes the CFPB issue in the large legal expense in the fourth quarter? We are starting off of that base that includes those one-time items.

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

Mark, so I would throw in there and say, we are talking about a longer term thing. We are talking about a buying event. We are talking about the kind of supply that’s in the market. So, you kind of walk the line when you started talking about a given year, so I will talk about 2016, so just in it’s highest form though, we are looking at single-digit kind of growth rates until that buying environment resolves itself, so whether that ‘16, ‘17 or whatever it might be, so, but yes, we are talking about GAAP to GAAP numbers.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

Right. So, on an adjusted basis, so again if we are starting it GAAP and we get mid single-digit growth off of the 350 base. What should we assume for adjusted growth, if you are going to give us sort of mid single or single-digit growth on GAAP? How should we think about from an adjusted perspective? Again, the GAAP number includes one-time item, but I would normally not include when I was forecasting?

Neal Stern

Analyst

As you know, we don’t give guidance. And so we are not trying to tee up a precise calculation for you for 2016. We are trying to give you some general feel for how we are looking at medium-term growth prospects given the market conditions that we have been observing.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

Right. And I appreciate the general feel, but we believe….

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

That’s as far as we are going to go with it.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

Right. But we need to be make sure at least we understand the terms and as I understand it if we talk about GAAP in mid single-digit growth off of GAAP, that’s a big number than single-digit growth off of adjusted. And so rather than leaving that ambiguous unless I am misreading it here and others can chime in, but unless I am misreading it, it’s a big difference between one and the other and I just want to make sure that I am clear when I think about the thoughts you share.

Neal Stern

Analyst

Understood.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

Okay. Well, my other questions on collections costs, Kevin I am not sure if you gave kind of collections costs relative to either gross collections or receipts, what was the trend there in the quarter on a kind of a constant currency adjusted basis?

Kevin Stevenson

Analyst

I didn’t address that in a great degree. I can – let me see if I have got it handy, I have got lot of paper in front of me, so if I can give you some answer, you can move on to your next question.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

Okay. And then I think that in currency, just to be clear currency would have been a slight tailwind, I think you took a penny out for currency purposes in the quarter, is that correct?

Kevin Stevenson

Analyst

That’s correct. Yes.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

Alright. Okay. That was all I had. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Robert Dodd from Raymond James. Your line is now open.

Robert Dodd

Analyst

Hi guys. I would like to go to kind of a more conceptual issue in terms of costs to collect, when you made the active acquisition, you disclosed back then that the incremental costs in both roughly the U.S. – ex-bankruptcy U.S. and Europe is about $0.35 on the $1 to collect in those two markets. Obviously, the CFPB settlement etcetera, etcetera the landscape has changed, the legal approach in the UK has changed somewhat. I mean can you give us an idea, is that 35% still the long run ballpark we should be looking at incremental costs or is that shifted given the regulatory issues?

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

Well, I would say that the regulatory issues are wind in our face on that expense ratio. But we have continued to make progress both in the U.S. and in Europe on our over productivity measures. So our hope would be over the longer term that despite the regulatory issues and the regulatory operating complexities that we can continue to keep downward pressure on those expense ratios.

Robert Dodd

Analyst

Okay, got it. Thank you. And just looking at U.S. core, excluding the bankruptcy, the collections compared to beginning of code at ERC the cash collections the ERC ratio seems to dip down a little bit more than it is typical in the fourth quarter, is that a manifestation of this issue you talked about there has been kind of driving some of the allowance charges in terms of some curve lengthening out or was there some of other factor, because obviously Neal’s comment that collection per score point was plus 4%, but it seems like the efficiency dipped a little bit in the fourth quarter more than seasonally normal?

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

When you start looking at quarterly performance, you really can get mixed up because of the timing of the purchasing and the prior two quarters has a lot to do with it. And so my initial recommendation would be for you to go back and look at last year’s purchasing timing. Last year there was a much heavier level of purchasing in Q1 and that makes a difference in terms of timing and how things will go quarter-by-quarter, so it’s a lot easier to look at these things on an annual basis when you start looking at Q3 over Q3 and Q4 over Q4, you can get really mixed up in that metric.

Robert Dodd

Analyst

Okay, I appreciate it. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Sand Jason [ph] from Bluebird Sand. Your line is now open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi Kevin. Hi Steve. Hi Neal. I just had a couple of questions here. First one was talking about the thing you said there Steve about capital allocation, you said you have lot of attractive opportunities here. You have done a great job over the years like building the business and the team for the long-term. Can you just help us understand how you think of capital allocation here when you obviously want to build your business in Europe and U.S., but you are going to achieve a leverage 20% return there or you can achieve north of 20% like a 25% return, if you are just paying, if your stock is 5x earnings with mid single-digit growth so to speak. How do you balance those and I know you are conservative but would you think of like taking on any extra leverage even amount to buyback stock, how do you think of the buyback stock versus grow the business thing?

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

I mean, it’s a very dynamic issue. And as you would expect, it’s one that we weigh based on buying opportunities that we are observing. Conversations with our bank group and trying to read where our room to lever comfortably would be and then obviously another input that we watch is what’s happening with our share price. So it’s definitely a dynamic set of variables that we are constantly trying to read.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it. Okay. And just for the benefit of Mark Hughes from SunTrust. If in the crazy assumptions [indiscernible] but nothing changes, if you don’t have any legal settlements this year that you had last year, the GAAP earnings were up 33%, right, from $3 something to $4 dollar something, because you lose that $1 thing, so is that’s just math of looking at the adjusted versus GAAP, is that correct?

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

In the sense that, if 2016 was exactly like 2015, which is obviously, not a fair assumption, but if that was the case, the GAAP earnings would be up whatever the legal charges are just removed it, unless you did another CFPB TCPA settlement, is that…

Neal Stern

Analyst

Simply, I don’t know.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

I’m not thinking that way, I am just saying it from perspective of the question he was sort of jumping around. I am always what you were saying, you are not trying to provide guidance, you are just saying look guys this is how the world looks like right now?

Neal Stern

Analyst

Exactly, but we also have a dynamic income statement. So I think that your equation is very simplistic and I don’t want to draw any conclusions from it.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yes. I got it. Yes. I just don’t want everyone running around corner saying that it’s the company’s earning $3 growing single-digits and that’s probably what will be people will try to read it out. And so okay, thank you so much and great work in a tough environment.

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes – we have a follow-up from Mark Hughes from SunTrust. Your line is now open.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

Yes. And just to be clear, my goal is to make sure that the message is clear and the guidance is clear and since there is meaningful disparity between those two measures being specific on which measure we are dealing with, I like the formulation of that question, if nothing changed better [Technical Difficulty] and the dynamic business model and income statement everything stayed steady, but you didn’t have the legal expenses then presumably we would be looking at the adjusted number rather than the GAAP number is that fair?

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

Again, Mark we are not giving guidance for ‘16. And then so we are just trying to let you guys know what we are looking at, that’s all and that’s as far as we are going. But I mean, if there is some confusion about what we call GAAP and what we don’t call GAAP, GAAP obviously had all the expense in it this past year.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

Right. But we don’t expect those expenses to recur the non-recurring expenses, correct?

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

That’s right.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

Right. So therefore, if everything stayed the same, we would have a number more like 430 rather than 347?

Kevin Stevenson

Analyst

Mark, I think the most important thing to remember is that we are saying our long-term target that we have always talked about, which is originally always on GAAP. That long-term target has now shifted to single-digit due to the buying environment. And that’s as far as we can go, because we are not giving guidance.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

Okay. Well, the way I will choose to interpret that language is that you are talking about adjusted earnings as your base and you are not considering that operating earnings will deteriorate to such a level that would be consistent with your 2015 results that included some very large one-time items. So, I will assume that you are talking about an adjusted operating number as the base on which you would look to then over the long-term generate some sort of performance. Let me ask one question, the retooling of the state procedures you had mentioned that a little bit of a headwind in terms of the legal collection, is that something you can handle internally or are the states still kind of working on it and we will get back to you. Do you control that or did they have…

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

No, they change our requirement and they ask for a different document type. And we have to go get the document type and supplement our filings with that. So, we often have it on hand and other scenarios we can go get it. So, it’s just – it’s really just the timing lag, it’s nothing more than that.

Kevin Stevenson

Analyst

In other cases, we are dealing with disclosures, which may lengthen our talk times and may impact collector productivity and we need to push back against that with other analytical enhancements.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

Thank you.

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

Yes.

Operator

Operator

And we also have a follow-up from Bob Napoli from William Blair. Your line is now open.

Bob Napoli

Analyst

Thank you. Yes. I guess then as far as looking at your goals, first of all, the goals the single-digit would be, I mean assuming that the people went in – the big sellers never came back, which is probably not logical. You would have a base of purchases that you would then grow off of. Right. So, I don’t know are you saying that 2016 is a single-digit target, but long-term, you mean your old targets are still viable, or is that in this – but we are in a transition period, is that what you are saying or is that – are you just saying that, because you would have a base, if the big guys never came back, you have a market and you have a part of that market, you are growing in other markets or am I misreading that?

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

Bob, we are – so for a company that doesn’t give guidance, but I would say we are being dragged into an uncomfortable conversation. We are simply trying to point out that the headwind that we faced due to U.S. supply is causing us to rethink that long-term growth goal that had been stated historically and that we believe a more reasonable way to look at it is in terms of a single-digit growth rate as opposed to what we had talked about historically. And again, we are talking about I would say a medium term period of visibility as opposed to declaring something for the very long-term. So, we are dealing in it. We are in a period of transition right now. We have set the deal as though the large sellers are going to be returning at some point, but we don’t know when. And until we get that stimulus from them building, we are in this period where more interesting growth is going to be more difficult, unless we are able to do more in U.S. core or Europe.

Bob Napoli

Analyst

Okay. The cash collections assuming you are buying you say you bought about the U.S., I mean, your cash collection should not – they should be flattish right as you go into next year, I mean, is barring a change in the economy or something like that, but generally the current, the cash collections you had in ‘15 with the purchases you have made those cash collections should not be substantially different than this current year?

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

Bob, I would say that over the years, the investor community and you in particular seem to have been able to model our cash flows of nothing else very accurately. I don’t see anything around our business that would cause those kind of things did not work any longer. We wanted to make sure that everybody understood that our ability to replenish that insolvency funnel was difficult and remains difficult. But the cash flow from the ERC that’s on the books, again, I know of nothing that’s going to cause it to behave in a manner that is similar from how it’s behaved in the past.

Bob Napoli

Analyst

Right. That’s I guess now that’s what’s confusing. Is it looks that you don’t disagree with that and based upon the improvement and the amortization rate you are talking about and the tax rate you are talking about, it just seems that using the GAAP EPS doesn’t seem like the right starting point for a single-digit growth. It’s just I am missing something somewhere in the numbers, I guess. But I guess I will leave it there. Did you agree with the statement by your competitor last night that the returns have improved in the U.S.?

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

Well, I mean, I would say by virtue of the fact that we have been steadily moving up yields on portfolios that we have acquired over time, including take a look at the multiple expansion of 2014 portfolios, we are realizing higher yields than we had underwritten at the time of acquisition. I think that our view is that a lot of that is being driven by some tailwinds that the consumers had over the last year and year and a half and some strategy and analytical improvements that we have employed. I think our view is that pricing especially in the U.S. continues to be quite competitive. And I don’t think that we would characterize the U.S. pricing market is softening at least at this point.

Bob Napoli

Analyst

Okay. Alright, thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

And that does conclude our Q&A session. I would now like to turn the call back to Mr. Steve Fredrickson for any further remarks.

Steve Fredrickson

Analyst

Thank you, operator. That concludes our Q4 2015 earnings call. Thank you all for joining us. We look forward to speaking with you again next quarter.