Yes. And that's super helpful, what you just said. But my point is, for the math of the breeder flock, right, to translate into 2% more pounds next year, right, would imply that you'd see another extended period of mature hen slaughter, right? I do think mature hen slaughter will go up, like you said, for a quarter or 2, but it's not my expectation that it's going to go up for another year, because we just came off of a period where it was up a lot for a while. So that's -- my point is, I get exactly what you're saying about the breed and that's had a meaningful impact on productivity, completely understand that. But for the math of the breeder flock, which was up 6%, to then translate into 2% in pounds, you definitely need the mature hen slaughter to increase quite a bit and for an extended period of time. That's all I was trying to get at, but I appreciate your response there. And just one last one for me, in terms of the current pricing trends, you mentioned that you've sort of just -- you characterized it as normal seasonality, except we started at a higher point. That's fair. But aren't you seeing like some parts that are exceptionally weak like boneless, skinless breasts. I mean, I think I don't remember seeing it at $1.03 literally ever, but can you talk a little bit about why that's happening and why have wing prices recently started to come down? I mean, I guess it can't stay up forever, but just curious to know on those 2 parts, if you have any additional color on why they're moving a certain way, which is different from what they had been doing recently?