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Power Integrations, Inc. (POWI)

Q2 2015 Earnings Call· Wed, Jul 29, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon I would like to welcome everyone to the Power Integrations Second Quarter 2015 results call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. Thank you. Joe Shiffler, you may begin.

Joe Shiffler

Analyst

Thank you. Good afternoon thanks for joining us to discuss Power Integrations' financial results for the second quarter of 2015. With me on the call are Balu Balakrishnan President and CEO of Power Integrations and Sandeep Nayyar our Chief Financial Officer. During today's call we will refer to financial measures not calculated according to generally accepted accounting principles. Please refer to today's press release available on our website at investors.power.com for an explanation of our reasons for using such non-GAAP measures as well as tables reconciling these measures to GAAP results. Our discussion today including the Q&A session will include forward-looking statements reflecting our forecast of certain aspects of the company's future business and financial results. Such statements are denoted by words like will, would, believe, should, expect, outlook, estimate, plan, goal, anticipate, forecast and similar expressions that look toward future events or performance. Forward-looking statements are based on current information that is dynamic and subject to abrupt changes. Our forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties which may cause actual results to differ materially from those projected or implied in our statements. Such risks and uncertainties are discussed in today's press release and in our most recent Form 10-Q filed with the SEC on April 30, 2015. This conference call is the property of Power Integrations and any recording or rebroadcast is expressly prohibited without the written consent of Power Integrations. Now I'll turn the call over to Balu.

Balu Balakrishnan

Analyst

Thanks Joe and good afternoon. Like many of our industry peers, we experienced softer than expected demand in the second quarter reflecting global macroeconomic uncertainty as well as challenging conditions in certain end markets. Revenues from the computer market declined nearly 10% sequentially in the second quarter, after falling by more than a third over the prior two quarters. Consumer revenues were also softer than expected, declining slightly compared to the prior quarter driven by appliance applications which account for the majority of the consumer category and exhibited soft demand across both Asian and European customers. Communication revenues increased slightly from the prior quarter as a significant reduction in sales related to Korean end-customers was offset by growth in rapid charge designs at Chinese handset customers. Sales into industrial end market grew more than 10% sequentially with sales of our high-power IGBT driver products rebounding as expected following a trough in Q1, while LED lighting revenues also grew nicely on a sequential basis. All-in-all second quarter revenues were $85.3 million up 3% sequentially but below our target range of 5% to 10% growth, fortunately the possibility of weaker than expected demand became apparent early enough in the quarter that we are able to adjust our operating expenses coming in about 5% below the mid-point of our projected range. These expense savings combined with slightly higher than expected gross margin enabled us to deliver non-GAAP earnings of $0.47 per share up from $0.43 in the prior quarter. Cash flow was also strong with cash from operations coming in at $25 million for the quarter. In view of this strong cash generation our healthy balance sheet and our belief in the growth potential up for business. Our board of directors has authorized a new $30 million share repurchase plans. That follows a…

Sandeep Nayyar

Analyst

Thank you and good afternoon. I will quickly cover the Q2 financials and the Q3 outlook and then we will open it up for Q&A. My prepared remarks will focus mainly on the non-GAAP numbers which are reconciled to the corresponding GAAP figures in the tables accompanying our press release. Q2 revenues increased 3% sequentially to $85.3 million. The industrial end market was the primary driver of growth increasing more than 10% from the prior quarter. Growth in the industrial revenues was broad based with higher power and LED lighting leading the way. Communications revenue increased by a low single digit percentage as the continuing ramp of rapid charge design at Chinese handset end customers was largely offset by softness at Korean end customers. Consumer revenues decreased low single digits reflecting softness in the appliance market while revenues from computing applications were down high single digits sequentially. Revenue mix for the quarter was 36% consumer, 36% industrial, 21% communications and 7% computer. Non-GAAP gross margin for the quarter was 53.1%, unchanged from the prior quarter. That was a bit better than expected reflecting the relative strength of the higher margin industrial end markets. As Balu indicated we responded quickly to the demand trends we saw in the weeks after giving our Q2 outlook and we took a number of steps to contain expenses. As a result of these efforts non-GAAP operating expenses for the quarter was $30.2 million, about $1.5 million below the midpoint of our forecast. Sequentially, that's an increase of just 2% despite the fact that our annual merit increase took effect April 01. Continuing down the income statements, other income for the quarter was slightly above zero as interest income was offset by unfavorable currency fluctuations. The non-GAAP tax rate for the quarter was 5.5%, resulting in…

Joe Shiffler

Analyst

Thanks Sandeep. We’ll open it up now for the Q&A session.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Your first question comes from the line of Ross Seymore from Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open.

Ross Seymore

Analyst

Hi guys. And I apologize we’re juggling on a few calls tonight so if this redundant with what you’ve already addressed I apologize but when you look at as a whole I can see the comp side is ramping up but it sounds like everything else has been weak. Can you talk a little bit about the trajectory of the bookings you have seen? And how much off what you are seeing, do you believe is end market inventory burn? I have realized you guys recognized revenue and sell through but how much of this is inventory versus true demand being weak?

Balu Balakrishnan

Analyst

Well, first of all, we actually grew nicely in industrial sequentially. We grew little over 10%. And the consumer market was slightly down primarily because of the appliance being soft, this is very broad based. The PC was the biggest challenge, it was down significantly from Q2. And communications actually grew as you said. So in terms of the bookings trend, the April booking was similar to March, but the sell through in April which we only found out in May was weak. So we based our forecast for Q2 on the bookings in April which was quite good. And in fact the sell through in March was very strong. So we expected the April to be similar to March, but that wasn’t the case. So we decided that -- well at the same time we also heard news reports that PC is continuing to be weak and the Korean OEM still having challenges in the marketplace in terms of demand. So we decided to cut back on our expenses starting in May. And in terms of bookings in May, the bookings were weak and also the sell through in May was weak. And then June came back actually quite strong, the bookings were very strong in June and sell through was also strong in June. So that's kind of the flow. It was May and April bookings were similar and then June was very strong.

Ross Seymore

Analyst

And how was July?

Balu Balakrishnan

Analyst

July is also strong, but not quite as strong as June. And our assumption is that because the sell through was so weak in April and May our customers' inventories were down so there was some extra business in June. And we are hoping June is a recovery from the macro, but it's hard to tell with one month, but July is quite strong and we are cautiously optimistic that we are coming out of this downturn.

Ross Seymore

Analyst

I guess a couple of more precise questions, I know you have discussed the rapid charge design wins that the China handset makers offset some of the weakness in Korea. But some of the data points we have been seeing about the China handset market itself being weak, does that give you any pause looking forward as far as how those different customer bases can offset each other?

Balu Balakrishnan

Analyst

Well, since we are getting into this rapid charging market, it doesn’t necessarily correlate directly with the overall health of the Chinese cell phone vendors. All of our full projections show that our rapid charging revenue will continue to grow in Q3 and Q4 and onwards. So we are quite bullish about that market. Our bigger concern is the overall macro that will affect broadly all markets.

Ross Seymore

Analyst

And then the last one more of a housekeeping one. I know you guys authorized another $30 million share repurchase program, can you just tell us how much cash you have onshore currently?

Balu Balakrishnan

Analyst

Majority, I would say a bulk of the cash is onshore.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Tore Svanberg from Stifel. Your line is now open.

Tore Svanberg

Analyst

Yes. Thank you. First question is on rapid charge. I was hoping maybe you could talk a little bit more specifically about USB-C and if that's an area we are probably starting to see some traction at this point or power delivery, USB-PD or USB-C, either one?

Balu Balakrishnan

Analyst

Yes from what we can see it sure looks like the quick charge is the most cost effective current solution, but USB-PD is going to be the long-term solution for fast charging. Most of the OEMs are seriously considering going to USB-PD for more than one reason; one of them being that it has a very small connector, the type C connector and the second one being it can deliver a lot of power; even without any protocol, it can deliver lot of power. But with the USB-PD protocol, the cable can deliver up to 100 watts of power, which is a very significant advantage if you are going to larger devices like notebooks.

Tore Svanberg

Analyst

Very good. And as my follow-up question, you talked about industrial being up very nicely full year in the June quarter, I am just wondering how that's looking, not necessarily just for September that maybe for the whole second [indiscernible] my understanding is that you have some new products and new programs ramping. So if you could just add some color on that, that would be great.

Balu Balakrishnan

Analyst

Well, that's always a challenge because our bookings don't tell us where the products go but I would say that if you look at our industrial, there are only three different buckets, there is the high-power, there is LED, and there is the rest of the industrial market. The rest of the industrial market generally correlates with what other company see. And some companies also put the appliances in industrial market and that maybe the reason they are not doing as well in industrial. As far as we’re concerned, we have growth in all three of them although the growth was highest in the high-power and the LED market. Our long term thinking is that we will grow in high-power and LED, we will also grow in the other miscellaneous markets especially in power tools and smart meters and also industrial controls, but it’s very hard to project on a quarterly basis exactly what’s going to happen, especially with this macro issues that we’re seeing which I’m hoping is going away but we don't know that for sure.

Tore Svanberg

Analyst

Great, just one last question. I was hoping you could also update us on the integrated power talking specifically about potential new versions of InnoSwitch if you’ve gotten some good customer response there and when we can start to see some more meaningful revenue from that?

Balu Balakrishnan

Analyst

So, outside of cell phones, we think we’ll start seeing revenue in all other markets industrial, consumer, and computer market as starting in 2016. We have number of designs going on in those areas, so we have already talked about two designs that we have one, one in the Ultrabook, the other one in the industrial market, and appliance for the two, major appliance companies who have qualified InnoSwitch, but they have a long design cycle but we expect significant revenue contribution from non cell phone market next year. And of course the cell phone market itself is in the early stages, it will continue to grow also.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Steve Smigie from Raymond James. Your line is now open.

Vince Celentano

Analyst

Thanks. This is Vince Celentano in for Steve. First, I want to know if you can talk about the competitive environment in LED and specifically are you gaining share in North America and Europe and have you been seeing any increase competition from the Chinese LED makers?

Balu Balakrishnan

Analyst

I think we have talked about this before, in the low end of the bulb market, we have seen a significant competition from the Chinese companies, Chinese IC vendors and that’s primarily in applications for third world countries where you don’t need the efficiency, you don’t need the power factor correction and they don’t need dimming. So it’s really the commoditized part of the bulb market where we have decided not to play because it’s not attractive for us. The reason is not attractive is that it doesn’t appreciate the benefits of integration such as fewer component count which means higher reliability, longer lifetime and also higher efficiency and power factor correction, isolation and so on and so forth. So, we will play in the brand name bulb market, those bulbs that are sold in U.S. and Europe where you do need to meet these requirements. And so we think those are attractive markets, in fact we’ll be introducing a product specifically for that in the second half of this year. And beyond that we are doing very well in the high margin, significantly higher markets like commercial lighting, industrial lighting, traffic lights, signage and emergency lighting and so on, which have the benefit of – really using the benefits we bring from our integration plus those markets are much more fragmented and spread geographically. So it’s a lot easier for us to address than a small Chinese company and they do care about reliability a lot, so that’s where we are focusing our efforts.

Vince Celentano

Analyst

Thanks a lot for the color and then going to the CT-Concept business, I mean last quarter, you said that’s an area where you can perhaps high single-digit growth in 2015. I was hoping you talk a little bit about 2016, is this business that can grow or maybe 20%, I mean how’s that doing as far as gaining share?

Balu Balakrishnan

Analyst

Well, it’s really hard to predict that far, we have hard time forecasting even the next quarter. But at a high level, I would say that the renewable part of the business is where we are seeing the most significant growth specifically wind power and solar. There is a lot of capacity being installed in places like China, India and U.S. even the Europe is slowly coming back and this is all driven by grid parity and below grid prices for electricity generated by solar. And of course wind has always been below grid for a quite some time now. So there is definitely a growth area is there, traction is doing very well. So the only area that we have had challenges is in oil exploration which is relatively small part of the business but that has been affected by the oil prices. The other impact we’ve had is in currencies and the euro being strong reduces our European revenue by a small amount because we sell only the high-power products in Europe in euros. And the other small impact is Russian currency which is basically taken the Russian revenue away. But all of that is behind us going forward we think that energy efficiency is going to drive this market we have a roughly about 10% share of this market and that the rest of the market is essentially captive but increasingly going to outsourcing the IGBT drivers to CT-Concept and CT-Concept which is now power integrations is the only supplier, our independent supplier of IGBT drivers right now.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Gus Richard from Northland. Your line is now open.

Gus Richard

Analyst

Hi yes, thanks for taking my question. When I look at your PC business it looks like it’s down by a whole third in the first half. And it’s hard for me to reconcile that with the end market even obviously the end market is pretty close there, just a tremendous amount of inventory coming into the year, I wouldn’t expect those levels a lot of inventory to be downstream from you?

Balu Balakrishnan

Analyst

Yes, the reason for that is we don't directly correlated the OEM shipments, we ship to the power supply companies and so we seem to have, we are not only disconnected in terms of timing, but the volatility of our business is much higher than the OEM shipments. So if you go back a couple of years, you will notice that our revenues have gone down 20% one quarter and come back up 20% in the next quarter and so on and so forth. So it’s very difficult to correlate that with the end market business. And the other thing unique of course is that we have our main exposure in that that market, I mean our dominant exposure is PC standby, followed by monitors and then to a much smaller extent printers and monitors have not done very well in terms of shipments either.

Gus Richard

Analyst

I see. Do you expect that business to grow sequentially?

Balu Balakrishnan

Analyst

Well, we’re assuming that it is not going to decline sequentially, because it has declined so much but we are being very cautious and we really don't want to assume that it is going to grow.

Gus Richard

Analyst

I understand and then on the consumer side, you mentioned that there was weakness in appliances. And is that brown goods or is that air conditioners, how should we think about that going into the summer quarter?

Balu Balakrishnan

Analyst

It's all of it, both large appliances -- I would say large appliances probably the biggest one and then the A/C I mean air-conditioning and then the small appliances are what you call brown goods. And it's also geographically distributed. It's not just any one geography, it is across the world. And that's what makes us think it's a kind of a demand issue, worldwide demand issue, it could be because of the stock market decline in China which maybe shying customers away from making major purchases, it could be the great effect in Europe. It is really hard to figure out what is causing it but we have a very, very good share and share in appliances doesn’t change very quickly. So it is purely a demand issue and it's very broad based to the extent we can make out.

Gus Richard

Analyst

And then on DoE-6, does that drive content for you guys in the external power supply market?

Balu Balakrishnan

Analyst

Yes, it does. Because the DoE-6 is very-very tight spec and number of the existing products do not met it so they have to switch over. The interesting thing is because it's so tight, the new designs are more expensive, because you have to have higher efficiency. And so even though there are number of new design that have been done, the power supply guys and the OEMs are reluctant to switch over until they have to, because they do not want to ship in more expensive products ahead of the deadline which is I think February of 2016. So we are -- the ramp up I was expecting in the second half is not as much as I thought because people are waiting for the deadline before the switch over because of the increase in cost.

Gus Richard

Analyst

Got it. Is there also perhaps further problem in consumers that your customers are burning off the old inventory -- power supplies going to consumer?

Balu Balakrishnan

Analyst

It is possible, but I really do not have a good feeling for that, because of the long chain we have.

Gus Richard

Analyst

I understand. Okay. That's it for me. Thanks so much.

Balu Balakrishnan

Analyst

Thanks, Gus.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Your next question comes from the line of Christopher Longiaru from Sidoti & Company. Your line is now open.

Christopher Longiaru

Analyst

So just want to dive into the gross margin for the quarter any expectations will be there. BN takes a little while to kind of sell through, was there any impact from the end into June quarter or is that more being June and September quarter?

Sandeep Nayyar

Analyst

It will be more in the September quarter and a little bit in the December quarter, because of the inventory levels.

Christopher Longiaru

Analyst

And then just in terms of the mix, higher mix of industrials this quarter. About how much would you say that effected in the gross margin positively in the June quarter?

Sandeep Nayyar

Analyst

Well, I mean if you look at that we kind of a guider somewhere between 52.5 and 53 and we came in a little over guided range. So I would attribute most of it related to that. And in the following quarter the mix is swinging backward because the growth sequentially will come more from the communication.

Christopher Longiaru

Analyst

Got it and then just in terms of the operating model now. Is this kind of operating expense structure that you’re going to aim to kind of key level at this point or do you still expect to increase in R&D spend sometime in the second half of the year?

Balu Balakrishnan

Analyst

Well, the operating expenses for the balance of the year we have said we would keep it, we said Q3 will be around 30.5 slight increase from Q2 and we expect Q4 to be flat with Q3.

Christopher Longiaru

Analyst

Okay and then just in terms of that you have a great percentage of the cash is offshore. Any plans for that cash at this point repatriating any of it, anything along those lines?

Balu Balakrishnan

Analyst

Bulk of cash is actually in the U.S.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Evan Wang from Stifel. Your line is now open.

Evan Wang

Analyst

I was wondering if you could add a little more color to your inventory plans for the rest of the year. As you think, you have mentioned as you expect the level to come down. Is there reflected more cautious picture to end demand or how do we read into that?

Balu Balakrishnan

Analyst

So even if you look at our traditional, I mean our model has been one-tenth plus or minus 15 days and you can see we have in stop to like around 140s. And so what we’re going to try to do is looking at where demand was and you had a little bit of shortfall in the first half. Looking that and looking at what we are thinking is the second half we are kind of modulating our production levels which is also impacting the margin a little bit and we want to get back and that's where we will have a gradual decline and we want to get back to our model. So that's why you will see it tapered down through the rest of the year.

Evan Wang

Analyst

Okay. And my follow up question is about your gross margin trend. And I know this is a little further out but about 2016. You have mentioned that InnoSwitch just started to penetrate other end markets in 2016, would that help to drive gross margin expansion? Can we denote InnoSwitch and LinkSwitch-4 as tailwinds?

Sandeep Nayyar

Analyst

It's hard to right now predict 2016, because it will depend on the volume, it will depend on the total mix. I think for modeling purposes I have always felt that historically, if you look at our margin has been somewhere in the 52.5 - 53 on an average. So that's where we are running at. So right now I think that's my best estimate at this point of time.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I will turn the call back to the presenters.

Joe Shiffler

Analyst

Okay. Thanks very much. Thanks everyone for listening. I know it's a busy afternoon. So we appreciate everyone listening. There will be a replay of this call available on our website which is investors.power.com. Thanks again and good afternoon.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.