Good morning, and welcome to the PennantPark Investment Corporation’s First Fiscal Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. Today’s conference is being recorded. At this time, all participants have been placed on a listen-only mode. The call will be open for question-and-answer session following the speakers’ remarks. [Operator Instructions] It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Mr. Art Penn, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of PennantPark Investment Corporation. Mr. Penn, you may begin your conference.

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. I’d like to welcome you to PennantPark Investment Corporation’s first fiscal quarter 2018 earnings conference call. I’m joined today by Aviv Efrat, our Chief Financial Officer. Aviv, please start off by disclosing some general conference call information and include a discussion about forward-looking statements.

Thank you, Art. I’d like to remind everyone that today’s call is being recorded. Please note that this call is a property of PennantPark Investment Corporation and that any unauthorized broadcast of this call in any form is strictly prohibited. Audio replay of the call will be available by using the telephone numbers and pin provided in our earnings press release as well as on our website. I’d also like to call your attention to the customary Safe Harbor disclosure in our press release regarding forward-looking information. Today’s conference call may also include forward-looking statements and the projections, and we ask that you refer to our most recent filings with the SEC for important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these projections. We do not undertake to update our forward-looking statements unless required by law. To obtain copies of our latest SEC filings, please visit our website at www.pennantpark.com or call us at 212-905-1000. At this time, I’d like to turn the call back to our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Art Penn.

Thanks, Aviv. I’m going to provide an update on the business starting with financial highlights, followed by a discussion of the overall market, the portfolio, investment activity, the financials and then open it up for Q&A. For the quarter ended December 31, 2017, we invested $138 million at an average yield of 10.8%. Net investment income was $0.20 per share, which included $0.02 per share of a fee waiver. NAV remained stable at $9.10 per share. A reminder that the board approved an amended investment advisory agreement lowering the base management fee to 1.5% per annum and the incentive fee to 17.5%. The incentive fee floor will remain at 7%. This new agreement took effect on January 1, 2018. As of September 30, we had taxable spillover of $0.26 per share. With the new fee agreement, a stable underlying portfolio and substantial spillover, we believe that PNNT stock should be able to provide investors with an attractive dividend stream, along with potential upside as the energy market rebounds and our equity investments mature. Our primary business of financing middle-market sponsors has remained robust. We’ve managed relationships with about 400 financial sponsors across the country from our offices in New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston and London. We’ve done business with 181 sponsors. Due to the wide funnel of deal flow that we receive relative to the size of our vehicles, we can be extremely selective with our investments. In this environment, we have not only been extremely selective, but we have generally moved up capital structure to more secure investments. A reminder about our long-term track record. PNNT was in business since 2007, primarily as a subordinated and mezzanine debt investor. And as now focused on financing middle-market financial sponsors. Our performance through the global financial crisis and recession was…

Thank you, Art. For the quarter ended December 31, 2017, net investment income totaled $0.20 per share. We had about $0.02 per share of other income, and another $0.02 per share of fee waiver. Looking at some of the expense categories, management fees after waiver totaled $7 million, general and administrative expenses, totaled $1 million, and interest expense totaled $6 million. During the quarter ended December 31, unrealized loss from investments was $7 million or $0.10 per share. We also had unrealized gain from our various debt instruments of $1 million or $0.02 per share. We had about $4 million or about $0.06 per share of realized gains. Excess income over dividend, was $0.02 per share and consequently, NAV per share was stable at $9.10 per share. As a reminder, our entire portfolio, credit facility and senior notes are mark-to-market by our board to directors each quarter using the exit price provided by independent valuation firms, securities and exchanges or independent broker-dealer quotations when active markets are available under ASC 820 and 825. In cases where broker-dealer quotes are inactive, we use independent valuation firms to value the investments. Our overall debt portfolio has a weighted average yield of 11.8%. On December 31, our portfolio consisted of 57 companies across 26 different industries. The portfolio was invested in 40% in first lien senior secured debt, 34% in second lien secured debt, 10% in subordinated debt and 16% in preferred and common equity. 82% of the portfolio has a floating rate. Now let me turn the call back to Art.

Thanks, Aviv. To conclude, we want to reiterate our mission. Our goal is to generate attractive risk-adjusted returns through income, coupled with long-term preservation of capital. Everything we do is aligned to that goal. We try to find less risky middle-market companies that have high free cash flow conversion. We capture that free cash flow, primarily in debt instruments, and we pay out those contractual cash flows in the form of dividends to our shareholders. In closing, I’d like to thank our extremely talented team of professionals for their commitment and dedication. Thank you all for your time today and for your continued investment and confidence in us. That concludes our remarks. At this time, I would like to open up the call to questions.

Thank you. The question-and-answer session will be conducted electronically. [Operator Instructions] And our first question today will come from Casey Alexander with Compass Research and Trading.

Hi, good morning. First of all, I noticed that you paid down $15 million of SBA debentures during the quarter. Can you just sort of give us the thought process behind that as opposed to paying down the credit line and sort of why you went in that direction?

Sure. Good question, Casey. Good morning. SBIC I for us is coming, believe it or not, towards the back half of its life. So we do need to contemplate over time gradually paying off SBIC I. We’re hoping and looking forward to using SBIC II over time, but we do need to contemplate paying off SBIC I.

How much untapped capacity in SBIC II, do you currently have?

I think we have about $70 million of undrawn at this point in SBIC II.

Okay. So as – so were you to have an opportunity to get more invested, you could use that? So how much of your cash on the balance sheet is – comes from the SBIC subsidiaries?

A big chunk of it, Aviv.

Yes. So a fairly large chunk of it is from the SBIC. But as Art mentioned, SBIC I, as it has cash or items rolling off, it’s paying down and that’s the plan. SBIC II does not have a huge cash not – so at the end of the day, that’s the plan, it’s to ramp down SBIC I, ramp-up SBIC II as opportunities are coming.

Okay. In terms of the four energy investments, can you kind of walk through if were there any changes on their marks quarter-to-quarter?

As a general proposition, net net net, it was stable between quarter-on-quarter. I think Ram was down a little, ETX was up a little bit, roughly offsetting each other. And I think the other two, American Gilsonite and U.S. Well were roughly the same.

Okay, great. All right. Thank you for my taking my questions.

Thank you.

And we’ll next move to Ryan Lynch with KBW.

Hey, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. Following up on the energy question with – particularly with Ram, that was marked down a little bit in the quarter. Obviously with the rise in oil prices that provides, I think, a much better operating environment for Ram. So can you just talk about what needs to occur for Ram’s valuation to improve, do you need sustained level of oil prices right here? Do you need them to trend higher? Just any comment on that would be great.

And so, look, I mean, I think with the overall energy complex, it’s been really nice to see oil go up, natural gas is not going up, but oil is going up. And then, we love to see it stay up for a while and see it stable for a while, which will inevitably lead to more merger and acquisition activity, more potential exit options at nice prices. So it’s a relatively new phenomenon, we’d love to see it stay higher for a while. Some people are predicting oil prices are going to go up from here. Some people are predicting that they’re going to go down from here. Some people are predicting that they’re going to go down before they go up. We just like to see some stability in general upward trend. And so WTI is something that helps natural gas, it’s something that’s taking into account these valuations and of course, most importantly, the comparable companies. So if you want an indication of asset values for these underlying companies, look at the comparables. And that’ll give you your biggest clue as to where it’s headed. So we are certainly encouraged by the better environment. We are hopeful that it will continue. And as it continues, we would hope and expect that M&A will ensue in the industry in a more robust basis, and we can hopefully be beneficiary of that.

Okay. And then in your prepared remarks, you talked about reducing risk in your portfolio via more diversification. So having smaller bite size of investments in your portfolio. Does that mean that you guys are going to move down into smaller companies? Or does that mean that you guys are going to take smaller bite size of the debt capital structure in companies? I just want to know because if you guys are taking smaller bite sizes in the capital structure – in the debt capital structure of borrowers. Does that give you guys less influence on the structure in terms of those companies? And something goes sideways, when you guys have less influence. So can you just comment on – provide a little more detail on reducing orders via diversification.

Yes and you’re asking a great question. There was a lot of grey area in that, right, which is bigger company smaller bite, smaller company bigger bite. And for us, it’s always case-by-case basis. We had some bigger bites in our portfolio over time in sometimes 60s and 70s, and for in cases, over and above that. I think that’s where we’re really looking to curb and we’ll not do going forward. I think the bites that we’re taking today where it’s kind of averaging between 20 and 40. Generally, that’s the right zone for PNNT. So you will not see the 70s and 80s. You will see more 20s to 40s. And it’s going to be a combination of bigger companies, where we’re one of a club or the only lender, or in some cases, it might be a smaller company. But what we’re trying to – when we go to smaller companies, we’re trying to find very stable companies where we can be very high in the capital structure and get a very attractive risk-adjusted return.

Okay. Make sense. That’s all for me. Thanks for taking my questions.

Thank you.

And our next question, we’ll hear it from Chris York with JMP Securities.

Good morning, guys. And thanks for taking my questions. So Art, following a little bit on Ryan’s question, I want to drill down a little bit on Ram. So what drove the write-down quarter-over-quarter specifically?

We don’t – Chris, we don’t – what I said in my prepared remarks to what we’re prepared to disclose, obviously, it’s confidential information. We have a confidentiality agreement. You can look, though, at the comparables of energy companies during the quarter between 9/13 and 12/31. And despite the fact that WTI went up, in some cases, the comparables were flat or even down. So the comparables will be a key area of how these – as they always are, how these companies are valued. So we are appreciative and are encouraged that WTI is up, but that is only one factor. Natural gas has a part of it and the comparables have a part of it.

Okay, so I mean, is your mark here more a function of comps than EBITDA or enterprise value. Is that safe to assume?

If it’s comps – comps are usually, when you’re valuing private illiquid names, comparables are usually a key driver. So WTI may be up or natural gas may be up or down. But if the comparables are [indiscernible] commensurate amounts, then there’s only so much you can do.

Yes. That makes sense. Okay, that’s it for me. Thanks.

And next we’ll hear from Rick Shane with JPMorgan.

Hi, guys. It’s Melissa for Rick today. Couple of questions for you. I know that in the past, you have always been careful about balancing share repurchase activity with target leverage and wanting to stay, maintain some credit ratings. I’m wondering how you’re thinking about share repurchases and the potential to add value through that tool in this environment?

Sure, sure. It’s something we and the board talk about all the time. Our priority has been in the last few quarters and still today, maintaining our investment-grade rating, the 4.5% bonds are outstanding, they are due in about 18 months. It’s important for us at this point to maintain our ratings. Share buybacks are not the top use of proceeds from the standpoint of the rating agencies. But it’s something that we evaluate and will continually evaluate and within the balance of keeping our rating at this point, consider, but it’s something that right now, our priority is keeping the ratings.

Okay. And as you look at the remainder of the equity portfolio and kind of rotating that into some income-generating investments. As you look at what’s left after the activity that you had quarter-to-date so far. What do you think a reasonable time line could be to get down to your target range of 5% to 10% portfolio investments?

Yes, it’s a good question because by definition exiting equity investments is a lumpy proposition here and just in the last five weeks, we’ve gone from 16% to 14%, roughly. So that’s certainly encouraging. But each one of these deals, as you can imagine have their own idiosyncratic time line and dynamic. We’d hope in the next year or so to get it done, the next 12 month is – our head is down, number one, hopefully, finding the risk-adjusted returns, and then part and parcel of that, to the extent, we can impact exiting this equity or energy portfolio at rational prices, we’re going to try to do that.

Got it. Thanks, guys.

And next we’ll move on to Kyle Joseph with Jefferies.

Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Just stepping aside from the energy portfolio, wanted to get a sense for revenue and EBITDA growth trends from the remainder of your portfolio and discuss if you’ve seen any material changes over the past, call it, year. Yes, just your thoughts there.

Yes, so it’s a good question. And look, we – we’re seeing similar things to many of our peers. And what the economic reports are, which is from the standpoint of our portfolio, the U.S. economy is strong. We’re seeing, by and large, very nice revenue and EBITDA performance of the underlying portfolio. So we feel very good about the credit quality of the portfolio and its ability to generate cash flow for the dividend.

Got it. And then just looking at yield trends, it looks like yields expanded sequentially in the quarter. Is that being driven by the rotation of equity assets, the increases in LIBOR or kind of a mix shift at this point? Are we seeing new originations with higher yields than repayments?

Yes, yes, it was kind of idiosyncratic this quarter. We’ve been indicating that as we are looking to de-risk the portfolio, overall. We’re thinking the overall portfolio yield will go from 11s into the 10s. That’s what we’ve been saying. This quarter, our yield on the portfolio was up. I think it was a combination of the originations we had this quarter. Some of the exits that we had as well, some of the exits were lower-yielding exits. And I do think we’re getting a little bit of tailwind from LIBOR, which hopefully will continue to provide tailwind to us and the rest of the industry.

That’s helpful. Thanks for answering my questions.

Thanks, Kyle.

And next move on to Jonathan Bock with Wells Fargo.

Good morning and thank you for taking my questions. I appreciate you listening to my dear competitive brother and with questions on the portfolio, et cetera. Maybe I’ll go with the $64,000 one. So Art, can you quantify the benefit the investment-grade rating gives to you today?

It’s a great question because it’s hard to quantify it by definition. There is an imprimatur that at least most people who are experts in financial institutions seem to believe that you get when you have an investment-grade rating, and if you lose that rating, there is potential challenges. So that’s what we grapple with. I wish I could give you a black or white answer. I’m happy to talk to you offline or whatever, but there is something about being a finance company having investment-grade rating that is not just about dollars and cents from what we think or what most of the experts that we talk to think.

We appreciate that. And I also think investors are pretty clear about the dollar and cents that goes to their pocket with stock repurchases below book, particularly with available capacity. So I understand that you’ve discussed this with the board and you’ve made some very shareholders-friendly changes, so this isn’t meant in any way detract from that. But the question remains you’re pointing as the stock buybacks and the investment-grade ratings are mutually exclusive options. You can buy back stock and delever your loan pro rata and maintain investment-grade, while also building NAV and NOI. So is there a reason you’re not doing that?

Well, look, we had a closed call, not too long ago, in terms of getting downgraded. I think at this point, we are focused on making sure that, that doesn’t happen and then over the coming weeks, months and quarters, as we generate hopefully, some nice proceeds from the equity portfolio, perhaps we can approach those conversations and do it in a way so that there is not a head-trigger reaction. But we had a close call, Jon, not too long ago. And right now, we just want to calm things down, make sure we maintain things, and I hope to have those conversations in the coming weeks and months and quarters and with that exact question in mind.

That makes sense. And then one other item that kind of adds to it and just – and forgive me, I’m not the world’s best expert on the SBIC. But so if we understand the second license was $75 million in capacity, first was a $150 million. I just want to make sure that you actually – while we’re paying down the $150 million, does this mean that over time, your capacity on SBA debentures will only be limited to $75 million until you get another first license?

So over time, and we have a few more years left. I think, Aviv, we’re going to gradually pay off I. We’re going to draw on II and then potentially go for number III.

Got it. So you’re limited to $75 million – SBIC I and we’ll call it runoff, right? SBIC II, $75 million of potential total debentures outstanding and then you’re going to ask for a license for III. Art and Aviv, I know you’ve been very diligent in that process, has that third license request started? And if not, what is holding you back?

It has not started. What’s holding us back right now is we got to use more of II. Before you go for III, you want to use more of II. So that’s the few things.

Guys, those are my question. Thank you so much.

Thanks, Jon.

And next move on to Mickey Schleien with Ladenberg.

Okay, good morning, Art. I apologize, I missed the beginning of the call, so maybe my questions already been asked. But just following up on Jonathan’s question about the SBIC. How much of the cash on the balance sheet last quarter was in the SBIC in anticipation of paying down more debentures?

Aviv?

So certainly, the SBIC I, as we’ve been indicating is paying off some of their very little idle cash there. SBIC II, likewise, fairly small cash over there as we’re ramping it up. So SBIC II, I think a correction from – before it does have a $150 million not $75 million, a $150 million capability to withdraw. We have not drawn the remaining $70 million, but it does had a $150 million. So we have some mileage to cover there.

Aviv, it was a little hard to hear you, did you say then that there is minimal or low levels of cash in both of the SBIC subsdiaries?

The answer is, yes.

Okay. So the cash balance about more than – about doubled from September to December, what would be the rationale for that?

We got some nice repayments. And in this case, exceeded our new deals, and we’re managing cash. We retained a small balance on our revolver and that is, at this point, to cover our non-U.S. investments. And the reason we do that is we borrow into multicurrency revolver. We borrow in the relevant currency whether it’d be euro or pound and as a way to hedge the currency risk in those non-U.S. investments.

All right, so there is effectively a sort of minimum that you want to have on the revolver regardless of the cash that’s on the balance sheet.

Right, just to hedge our non-U.S. assets.

I understand. That’s it for me. Thanks for your time.

Thanks, Mickey.

And that will conclude today’s question-and-answer session. At this time, I would like to turn the call back over to Mr. Art Penn for any additional or closing remarks.

Just want to thank everybody for their interest today and their participation, and we look forward to speaking with you in early May. Talk to you soon.

And that will conclude today’s call. We thank you for your participation.