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PennantPark Investment Corporation (PNNT)

Q2 2016 Earnings Call· Fri, May 6, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the PennantPark Investment Corporation's Second Fiscal Quarter 2016 Earnings Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen-only mode. The call will be open for a question-and-answer session following the speakers' remarks. [Operator Instructions] It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Mr. Art Penn, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of PennantPark Investment Corporation. Mr. Penn, you may begin your conference.

Art Penn

Analyst · SunTrust

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. I'd like to welcome you to PennantPark Investment Corporation's second fiscal quarter 2016 earnings conference call. I'm joined today by Aviv Efrat, our Chief Financial Officer. Aviv, please start-off by disclosing some general conference call information and include a discussion about forward-looking statements.

Aviv Efrat

Analyst · FBR and Company

Thank you, Art. I'd like to remind everyone that today's call is being recorded. Please note that this call is a property of PennantPark Investment Corporation and that any unauthorized broadcast of this call in any form is strictly prohibited. Audio replay of the call will be available by using the telephone numbers and PIN provided in our earnings press release as well as on our website. I'd like also to call your attention to the customary Safe Harbor disclosure in our press release regarding forward-looking information. Today's conference call may also include forward-looking statements and projections, and we ask that you refer to our most recent filings with the SEC for important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these projections. We do not undertake to update our forward-looking statements unless required by law. To obtain copies of our latest SEC filings, please visit our website at www.pennantpark.com or call us at 212-905-1000. At this time, I'd like to turn the call back to our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Art Penn.

Art Penn

Analyst · SunTrust

Thank you, Aviv. I'm going to provide an update on the business starting with financial highlights, a discussion of our energy portfolio, followed by a discussion of the overall market, the overall portfolio, investment activity, the financials and then open it up for Q&A. For the quarter ended March 31, 2016, we invested $86 million at an average yield of 10.8%. Expected IRRs generally range from 12% to 17%. Net investment income was $0.29 per share. Given the continued headwinds and volatility, we continue to focus on our energy portfolio which includes those companies and our schedule of investments listed as oil and gas and energy and utilities. Our focus is on companies that have strong management teams, attractive asset portfolios, and the ability and time to endure the current market conditions. The investments we control or have the ability to influence strategy will be our primary focus. In these situations we intend to work with our portfolio companies to ensure that they have the resources, personnel, capital, and runway to maximize our long-term recovery to weather this tumultuous period. As of March 31, 2016, our energy portfolio had a cost of $212 million and was marked at $114 million on a market value basis which is $0.54 on the dollar. This represents 15% of the cost and 9% of the market value of our overall portfolio respectively. Valuations on our energy investments fell by $10 million from the quarter ended December 31, 2015, representing $0.14 per average share. As we have mentioned previously, independent third-party valuation firms value all of our non-actively quoted investments. Many have asked us what happens to NAV and NII if our energy investments are completely written off. While we do not think all of our energy investments are worthless and believe that they are…

Aviv Efrat

Analyst · FBR and Company

Thank you, Art. For the quarter ended March 31, 2016 recurring net investment income totaled $0.21 per share. In addition, we had $0.06 per share of other income net of incentive fees and $0.02 per share from the fee waiver. As a result net investment income for the quarter was $0.29 per share. Looking at some of the expense categories, management fees after waiver totaled $9.1 million, general and administrative expenses totaled $1.8 million, and interest expense totaled $6.9 million. During the quarter ended March 31, unrealized loss from investment was $60 million or $0.22 per share. Unrealized gains from our various debt instruments was $10 million or $0.14 per share. Realized losses from investments was $11 million or $0.15 per share. The accretive effect of our share buyback was $0.03 per share and excess net income over dividend was $1 million or $0.01 per share. Consequently, NAV per share went down $0.19 from $9.02 to $8.83 per share. As a reminder, our entire portfolio, credit facility, and senior notes are mark to market by our board of directors each quarter using the effective price provided by independent valuation firms, securities and exchanges, or independent broker-dealer quotations when active markets are available under ASC820 and 825. In cases where broker-dealer quotes are inactive, we use independent valuation firms to value the investment. Our overall debt portfolio has a weighted average yield of 11.9%. On March 31 our portfolio consisted of 61 companies across 28 different industries. The portfolio was invested in 37% in senior secured debt, up from 28% a year ago, 39% in second lien secured debt, 14% in subordinated debt, and 10% in preferred and common equity. 76% of the portfolio has a floating rate, including 72% with a floor. And the average LIBOR floor is 1.2%. Now let me turn the call back to Art.

Art Penn

Analyst · SunTrust

Thanks, Aviv. To conclude, we want to reiterate our mission. Our goal is a steady, stable, and consistent dividend stream coupled with long-term preservation of capital. Everything we do is aligned to that goal. We try to find less risky middle market companies that have high free cash flow conversion. We capture that free cash flow primarily in debt instruments and we pay out those contractual cash flows in the form of dividends to our shareholders. In closing I'd like to thank our extremely talented team of professionals for their commitment and dedication. Thank you, all, for your time today and for your continued investment and confidence in us. That concludes our remarks. At this time I'd like to open up the call to questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question will come from Doug Mewhirter with SunTrust.

Doug Mewhirter

Analyst · SunTrust

Two questions. First, while some of your mark downs this quarter have been due to company-specific issues, especially in the energy portfolio, but I assume some of it was also technically related, just general market spreads. Do you anticipate any kind of recovery? I know the market spreads have tightened in the second quarter to date. Would you anticipate any possible accretion in your marks again if the market holds in the second quarter?

Art Penn

Analyst · SunTrust

Sure. Thanks, Doug. One would anticipate that spread tightening would help the portfolio as well as oil prices are up quite substantially since quarter end. So, no guarantees. It's still a long ways between now and June 30 but since quarter end there's been a general uptick in the market in both oil prices and the leverage line in high yield indices.

Doug Mewhirter

Analyst · SunTrust

Thanks. My second question on your pipeline, it looks like you're going to take advantage of the extra leverage afforded by the SBIC program. I know that investments have to fit a specific criteria that they're generally a little smaller, they're restricted by industry and I guess two questions on that. Is the relative attractiveness relative to your -- maybe a conventional sponsor deal for a SBIC eligible deal right now in terms of terms or yields or whatever? And also is your phone ringing just as much from these SBIC companies or do you have to maybe work a little harder to find those deals? Or is it actually good in terms of deal flow?

Art Penn

Analyst · SunTrust

That's a great question and it's something we grapple with. First and foremost we have to keep our credit standards high and the same as they are whether they fit in the SBIC or not. They have to be our kind of deal. They have to hit our metrics and we have to be comfortable with however it gets financed, whether it gets financed through the SBIC, the credit facility, or our bonds, et cetera. So, that said there are and it is kind of arcane what fits and what does not fit. But as an example, the VT Buyer deal we did during this past quarter is a sponsored deal and it does fit the SBIC. So, that was a nice situation. We've done a deal since quarter end. It's a sponsor deal that we like and it fits our parameters, and it does fit the SBIC. So, we're out there. Look, we're looking a little harder earlier on to see if something fits and hits our credit parameters because it is such advantageous financing, 3% for ten year money. So, we're looking hard. We don't want to drop any of our standards from a credit standpoint.

Doug Mewhirter

Analyst · SunTrust

Okay. Thanks, that's all my questions.

Operator

Operator

Okay. Next we'll move to a question from Arren Cyganovich with DA Davidson.

Arren Cyganovich

Analyst · DA Davidson

With respect to the New Gulf restructuring, can you talk about how that's going to look on your balance sheet? I know you said you're going to convert into equity. Are you going to have any remaining income paying piece from that after its done? Or is it going to go straight into equity? And then will there be realizations of loss on that restructuring?

Art Penn

Analyst · DA Davidson

Yeah. So, what we will own is about $24 million of a first lien convertible note that is in note form initially. There's no other debt on the balance sheet. And that will at least day one not be converted into equity. So, it will be a first lien convertible note. We're still working with the accounts whether there's from a tax standpoint a realized loss or not. We don't know for sure yet. We'll know after the transaction happens.

Arren Cyganovich

Analyst · DA Davidson

So, from the $24 million of first lien note, I think that's also marked up slightly from where you had it at the end of the quarter but the $24 million, that actually will be paying you some form of interest that will be additive to your NII?

Art Penn

Analyst · DA Davidson

If it pays cash it's 10%. If it pays PIC it roughly 12%. The markup is due to some warrants that we got and fees that we got as a backstop provider through the bankruptcy.

Arren Cyganovich

Analyst · DA Davidson

Got it. Thank you. And just in terms of your comments on seeing inactive deal flow, it's a little bit at odds with some of the other middle market folks that we've talked to thus far this quarter, hearing that it's still relatively slow out there, even though it has picked up a little bit from the beginning of the year. I guess what's the difference there from what you're seeing? You're getting the same level of inbound inquiries, et cetera, in terms of activity you can invest in?

Art Penn

Analyst · DA Davidson

That's a good question. We're seeing a lot of activity. As you know, Arren, activity is one thing and deals closing is another. We are getting pinged quite a bit. What closes, I think some of the indigestion in the market has been with a weird environment out there -- that's my technical term for it -- it's sometimes tough for buyers and sellers to agree on price. So, we're getting pinged quite a bit. We're hopeful that those deals do come to fruition. Some deals have hit some indigestion because in this interesting environment we have out there, there's in many cases a de-linkage at the end of the day between buyers and sellers as to where they can transact.

Operator

Operator

And next we'll move to a question from Jonathan Bock with Wells Fargo Securities.

Joe Mazzoli

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities

Joe Mazzoli filling in for Jonathan Bock. Thank you for taking my questions. Just very quickly you mentioned the ability to influence outcomes is important and this contributed to the sale of Linc. But I'm just curious, when thinking about Bennu, how does this ability to influence the outcome come into play? Because this was -- I think it was a Deutsche Bank led deal -- excuse me, CS led deal. And there's likely many lenders in the syndicate. So, how do you think about influencing the outcome?

Art Penn

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities

It's a great question and there's a variety of factors. Certainly being able to influence the outcome on Bennu, we are not a big player. The difference is we are more optimistic about the outcome and our ability to recover substantial capital on that one given the PUD that they have that as high potential.

Joe Mazzoli

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities

Fair enough. That makes sense. Just one more from me is, on Linc, I believe this was not on nonaccrual as of last quarter. So, this was still accruing interest with a fair value mark of 25 as of 12-31. So, when assessing to sell, to kind of exit, reduce the energy exposure or to kind of hold on and continue collecting the income, how do you think about this? Or is this kind of an imminent nonaccrual with maybe likely a little in the way recovery? Is that -- am I think about that in the right way?

Art Penn

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities

Yeah, you're thinking about it the right way. After our earnings last quarter they announced their earnings. Based on that information, based on what we were hearing, we believed that was going -- that was not going to be a good outcome based on the fact that we were on the periphery and we did not have a major seat at the table and where we were going to allocate capital to our energy portfolio, we decided to realize the loss unfortunately and use that capital towards other situations in the portfolio where we did have a major seat at the table or we were more optimistic about the outcome.

Joe Mazzoli

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities

Okay. That's great. Thank you, guys, for taking my questions.

Operator

Operator

And we'll now hear from Ryan Lynch with KBW.

Ryan Lynch

Analyst · KBW

Just one more on Linc. I was looking at the last quarter mark. It looks like you guys had one piece marked at about $0.25 on the dollar, another piece at $0.83 on the dollar. When you guys sold those investments off, what were roughly the exit prices of those?

Art Penn

Analyst · KBW

You saw realized loss this quarter and the vast majority of that was due to Linc. So, unfortunately, again after we had our earnings last quarter and after last quarter they announced their numbers. They were not good. We assessed the information and our ability to impact it, how we were going to allocate our capital and we thought the better part of valor in that particular case was to realize the loss, get whatever capital we could out of it, and reallocate that capital to where we thought we had a better chance of recovery. So, it's disappointing and embarrassing but that happens in our business unfortunately every once in a while.

Ryan Lynch

Analyst · KBW

Sure. And you guys have chosen to waive fees surrounding your oil and gas exposure. That's a very shareholder friendly benefit that you guys have voluntarily done. And I really appreciate that but obviously that's only temporary and that will run off. So, what are your thoughts about potentially expanding those waivers beyond 2016 or just changing the fee structure now that you've been operating with those lower fees for a couple of quarters, maybe changing the fee structure to something lower, maybe a little more in line with some of the recently IPOed BDCs?

Art Penn

Analyst · KBW

Sure. That's something our board will take up at the appropriate time, towards the end of the year. Clearly if energy is still in the doldrums at that point in time we would anticipate continuing the waiver and the board is of course always looking at everything and will continue to assess the fees and the costs. We do want to point out that up until the energy downturn we had realized gains for over nine years, through the recession, and a very strong track record. We're certainly very disappointed with ourselves and are taking, sharing, and taking a lot of pain as shareholders and as management. Which is why we don't want to earn a dime on our energy portfolio at this point in time and the board will assess the situation in a few quarters and make a decision at that point in time.

Operator

Operator

We’ll now move to a question from Mickey Schleien with Ladenburg.

Mickey Schleien

Analyst · Ladenburg

Most of my questions have been asked but I wanted to get a clarification. Art, have you actually started an application for the third SBIC license?

Art Penn

Analyst · Ladenburg

That's a good question, Mickey. We would start that application as we've utilized fully SBIC II. So, we're still working our way through the rest of SBIC II. As we come to the end of SBIC II, we'll start application for SBIC III.

Mickey Schleien

Analyst · Ladenburg

At the pace that you're going that sounds like that might be this year. Would you agree with that?

Art Penn

Analyst · Ladenburg

It's a hard question to answer. It's always hard for us to give quote-unquote origination guidance to people. We hope so. Our goal is to find deals that fit our credit parameters and fit the SBIC here. So, that would be our goal but certainly there's never any guarantees.

Mickey Schleien

Analyst · Ladenburg

I appreciate it. Thanks for your time.

Operator

Operator

Now we'll hear from Christopher Nolan with FBR and Company.

Christopher Nolan

Analyst · FBR and Company

Aviv, recurring income this quarter was $0.21. As I recall last quarter it was $0.23. What was the driver of the difference?

Aviv Efrat

Analyst · FBR and Company

So, the recurring income, the way we look at it is really kind of it's about $0.22. That's the way we should look at it. One quarter might be a little bit higher or lower but $0.22 is really kind of the -- what's effecting based on Linc activity and Bennu activity that was happening last quarter. So, it will ebb and flow by $0.01 or so but that's kind of as it goes, $0.22.

Christopher Nolan

Analyst · FBR and Company

Okay. And the driver of $10 million in depreciation and debt carrying values, is that related to credit rating agencies putting the company on a negative outlook?

Art Penn

Analyst · FBR and Company

That's the mark to market on all of our debt instruments as we said in our prepared remarks. We do mark our liabilities to market. Some of the liabilities do trade. The bonds trade in the NYSE, the institutional bonds trade in the marketplace. Our credit facility gets valued by the independent third-party valuation firm.

Operator

Operator

Okay. [Operator Instructions] Next we'll move to a question from Chris York with JMP securities.

Chris York

Analyst · JMP securities

My question here is just a follow up to Mickey's question and then maybe, Art, your prepared comments about the potential pursuit of the third SBIC license. We would think the SBA doesn't want to be a lender of last resort to PDCs with the capital markets difficult to access, especially for those trading below book value. So, could you give us an update on any conversations you have had with the SBA about potential pursuit of this third license?

Art Penn

Analyst · JMP securities

Thanks, Chris. Great question. The SBA's had a fantastic experience with us. There's not been one dime of loss in the SBIC portfolios that we've run for them. So, hopefully they would not view themselves as being a lender of last resort to us. We've had a great relationship with them and I would think our track record with them having been perfect so far would not be viewed as a lender of last resort.

Operator

Operator

And we'll move to a question from Bryce Rowe with Robert W. Baird

Bryce Rowe

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

Just wanted to maybe follow up on that same SBIC, SBA theme. Art, I was curious, I guess in the past you guys have talked about an additional $75 million of capacity within SBIC II and so with the past legislation, have you in fact gotten an additional $75 million of commitment from the SBA at this point?

Aviv Efrat

Analyst · Robert W. Baird

Certainly. Yes. We do have $150 million on SBIC II commitment and obviously we're working towards fully utilizing that. So, that $75 million old commitment is now $150 million commitment.

Operator

Operator

Okay. And next we'll hear from Kyle Joseph with Jefferies.

Kyle Joseph

Analyst · Jefferies

Thanks for taking my questions. I was just hoping to get a little more color on your outlook for the portfolio yield overall and sort of what terms you're seeing on new deals in the middle market?

Art Penn

Analyst · Jefferies

Yes. Good question. I think what we've seen in the last quarters is kind of where we are. We're blending a little bit, a mixture of first lien unit tranche, some second lien, and we have about an 11% yield. I think that's kind of where we are now given that we're skewing a little bit more senior than we have in the past at this point. But it's always deal by deal, credit underwriting, that we're focused on.

Operator

Operator

No further questions in queue at this time, sir.

Art Penn

Analyst · SunTrust

Great. I'd like to thank everybody for their time and focus this morning and we look forward to speaking to you next quarter.