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Q2 2016 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 5, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the ePlus Earnings Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would like to introduce your host for today’s conference Mr. Kley Parkhurst, Senior Vice President. Sir you may begin.

Kley Parkhurst

Analyst

Thank you, Tyria, and thank you everyone for joining us today. With me today are Phil Norton, Chairman, President and CEO of ePlus; Mark Marron, our Chief Operating Officer and President of ePlus Technology; Elaine Marion, Chief Financial Officer; and Erica Stoecker, General Counsel. I want to take a moment to remind you that the statements we make this afternoon that are not historical facts may be deemed to be forward-looking statements and are based on management's current plans, estimates, and projections. Actual and anticipated future results may vary materially due to certain risks and uncertainties detailed in the earnings release we issued this afternoon and our periodic filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our Form 10-K for the year ended March 31, 2015, and our Form 10-Q for the quarter ended September 30, 2015, when filed. The company undertakes no new responsibility to update any of these forward-looking statements in light of new information or future events. In addition, during the call we may make reference to non-GAAP financial measures and we have posted the GAAP financial reconciliation on our website at www.eplus.com. I would now like to turn the call over to Phil Norton. Phil.

Phillip G. Norton

Analyst

Thank you, Kley. As a result, for the second quarter and first half of fiscal 2016 demonstrates the success of our go-to-market strategy. We are growing our customers account and expanding geographically tapping into strong customer demand for our services led advanced IT solutions. We are steadily taking market share and are well positioned for intended success. Results for the first half of fiscal 2016 included net sales growth of 6.4% and gross margin on products and services of 19.7%, which is a 70 basis point expansion from the first half of fiscal 2015. Revenue growth translated well into the bottom-line with earnings per diluted share increasing 21.8% as compared to non-GAAP diluted earnings per share in the first half of fiscal year 2015. Looking specifically at the results for the second quarter, we posted double-digit revenue growth and positive operating leverage. Net sales grew 13% to 336 million and non-GAAP gross sales of products and services grew approximately 10%. Fully diluted earnings per share grew from $1.63 to $2.15. This acceleration in revenue performance has several components. First, we are continuing to sell wider and deeper into our existing client base, capturing wallet share. Second, we are adding new logos through focused demand generation activities and third, we benefited from increased demand in the technology and healthcare sectors and a strong close from Cisco’s year end in July. We posted double-digit growth in key metrics including gross profit, adjusted EBITDA and earnings per diluted share in second quarter. While we maintain strong margins, we believe we are well positioned to continue to grow revenue at a higher rate than the overall IT market and we will continue to make the necessary investments in customers facing headcount such as sales people and engineers, and invest in emerging technologies to service our customers and meet their complex IT requirements. With that, I will turn the call over to Mark for a more detailed discussion of the business.

Mark P. Marron

Analyst

Thank you Phil. As Phil said, the second quarter and first half of fiscal 2016 was a period of continued focus and execution on our corporate objectives of expanding our customer base, investing in customer facing sales and engineering personnel, capturing emerging technology trends and increasing services penetration. Our ability to provide the advanced IT solutions our diverse customers demand helped us deliver positive results across the critical metrics of revenue, adjusted EBITDA, operating income and diluted earnings per share. We have spoken in the past of our strategy to outgrow the overall IT market and expand our gross margin by focusing on some of the highest growth areas of the industries, specifically security, converge, and hyper convergent infrastructure, cloud and mobility. This quarter’s 13% revenue growth demonstrates that we are successfully creating and capturing these opportunities with existing as well as new customers. Crucial to our growth is our ability to execute on our go-to-market strategies by going wider and deeper with our clients. We have successfully developed an effective cross disciplined sales and engineering teams, which focus on business development for specific technologies or ePlus Solutions within our customer base. These themes are being supported by our subject matter experts that help sell increased solutions in the security, services, software and financing areas. We are continuing to better utilize internal and external analytics to create focused demand generation activities within our more than 3000 customers nationwide and we are highly focused on adding new customers as well with targeted marketing campaigns focused on specific geographies, verticals and solution areas. We have shown in the past that we can capture demand in the faster growing segments of the market and we are confident in our ability to continue growing our client base. Today’s customer is dealing with more IT…

Elaine D. Marion

Analyst

Thank you, Mark and good afternoon everyone. Results for the second quarter of fiscal 2016 showed strong year-over-year comparisons in key metrics such as operating income, adjusted EBITDA and earnings per diluted share. Our results were driven by our scaled service-led business model and our gross margins. Net sales for the quarter increased 13% to $336.3 million due to demand from our complex IT solutions across our customer base. As Phil mentioned, technology segment sales received some additional momentum from customers and the technology in healthcare sectors, non-GAAP gross sales of products and services rose 9.9% to $431.1 million. Consolidated gross profit for the was up 12.5% to $71.9 million, consolidated gross margin and gross margin on product and services were both flat when compared to a year ago at 21.4% and 19.4% respectively. Recently we began reporting adjusted EBITDA, a metric we believe gives insight into the operating performance of our business. We calculate this metric by taking net earnings and adding back interest expense, depreciation and amortization for assets used internally and the provision for income taxes and subtracting other income. We consider the interest on notes payable from our financing segment as well as depreciation on assets financed as operating leases to be operating expenses. As such, they are not included in the amounts added back to net earnings in the Adjusted EBITDA calculation. Adjusted EBITDA and operating income for the second quarter both grew significantly faster than revenue as we maintained a relatively flat cost structure in our technology segment. Adjusted EBITDA rose 30.3% to $27.9 million, while operating income was up 31.2% to $26.7 million. Net earnings for the quarter totaled $15.7 million or $2.15 for diluted share for the second quarter of fiscal 2016, representing growth of 31.9% year-on-year. Now moving to our individual…

Phillip G. Norton

Analyst

Thanks Elaine. In closing, I would like to like to reiterate that we believe our long-term strategy as proving successful as evidenced by our strong performance in the first half of fiscal 2016. The technology landscape continues to evolve and client - on our trusted partner to help them determine, identify and implement the best IT solutions both for today and for the future. The solid performance of our business particularly in focus areas like services and security, highlight our competitive advantages, again this quarter, we received several recognition awards from key partners including Cisco and Palo Alto Networks among others. As we continue to strengthen our relationships with the established and emerging vendors. Additionally, our balance sheet remain strong, providing financial flexibility to take advantage of opportunities to build our business. We continue to evaluate strategic acquisitions to expand our business, we also seek to investment in new sales and engineering resources and expanded our human capital to better serve our clients. With that operator, please open the call to questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Bhavan Suri of William Blair. Your line is now open.

Alfred J. Salvino

Analyst

Hi guys this is Alfred tweaking in for Bhavan. Congrats on the quarter.

Mark P. Marron

Analyst

Thanks Al.

Elaine D. Marion

Analyst

Thanks.

Alfred J. Salvino

Analyst

I just have a first question, you guys had a nice speed up for the gross sales, I remember last quarter, if I remember correctly, you had more companies that were having contracts on subscription and term based contracts. And I was just kind of wondering how that activity looked this quarter, when looking at the perpetual license deals versus some of those subscription and term based license deals and how that affected both net sales and your gross sales?

Mark P. Marron

Analyst

So I’ll try to take a shot at that Al. I don't have anything off the top of my head that I can give you exact percentages, but as the market continues to evolve and move to more of subscription model, consumption model, as a service model, we’re moving the solutions that we deliver to our customers to accommodate what they are looking for. I think if you look at our gross margins, we feel like we had a really good quarter for our gross margins. We feel that our gross margins are probably the highest in the industry that Phil had talked about. Our gross margins were 21.4% for the quarter, which is some of the highest in the industry and then in terms of when we look at the gross margins as well they were affected a little bit by a lower portion of gross sales that were classified as net. So that's kind of the pieces that I think would tie back to what you asked there. Did that give what you were looking for Al?

Alfred J. Salvino

Analyst

Yes that's exactly what I was looking for. And then just one additional question from me, for the tech segment earnings rose 28.5%, you guys are seeing nice leverage from a margin perspective and outside of gross margins which you said, you are an industry leader. Do you think the operating margins that you have today are sustainable throughout the end of the year?

Mark P. Marron

Analyst

So, no I think on that you have to really look at our historical results for the operating margins. We’re going to continue to invest in what I call customer facing sales and services headcount to address what I call the four Ss that we are trying to tackle with our customer services, security, software and solutions. So I think going forward with investing in net headcount, you would have to look more at the historical trends as it relates to operating margins.

Alfred J. Salvino

Analyst

Okay. Thank you guys very much and again congrats on the quarter.

Mark P. Marron

Analyst

Thank you.

Elaine D. Marion

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Prabh Gowrisankaran of Canaccord. Your line is now open.

Prabhakar Gowrisankaran

Analyst

Hi, thanks for taking my question and congrats on a strong quarter.

Mark P. Marron

Analyst

Thanks Prabh.

Elaine D. Marion

Analyst

Thanks.

Prabhakar Gowrisankaran

Analyst

Yes, the first question I had was just in terms of the strength that you saw in the Cisco practice, I know usually Q2 is a strong quarter and Q3 is slightly better. You hinted to Cisco being really strong with their year-end finish. Was there a particular area of strength, was it data center, routing switching, if you can add more color on the Cisco strength?

Mark P. Marron

Analyst

Well there is a couple of different things as you known Prabh, Cisco was about 50% of our revenue for this quarter. What’s nice about Cisco is they go across a lot of different areas meaning compute, security, data center and all the services that go with it. So as that kind of continues to evolve with some of the converged infrastructure plays that are out there with FlexPod and Vblock and so forth. I think you will continue to see that grow. We are also actively working with Cisco on building out our software capabilities. So they are a big part of strategy, they are about 50% of our revenue and I think you will continue to see that in future based on historical trends.

Prabhakar Gowrisankaran

Analyst

Good. And then the other question I had was just in terms of the security practice that you talked about. It looks it expanded - it’s still at 50% level, right. Do you see an inflection there as you are starting to creating it and hiring more people into the security practice?

Mark P. Marron

Analyst

Yes, Prabh if you saw we had 30 basis point bump from Q2 versus Q1 and it’s a total of our gross product and services. It’s one of the key focus areas. We believe it’s a hot market. And with some of the regulatory and compliance issues that are out there for our customers, we think it’s a big market that we can continue to grow in and outpace the market.

Prabhakar Gowrisankaran

Analyst

And then the other question I had was just in terms of the overall IT spend. I know storage has been soft, but other areas looks they are strong. If you can add any color on the macro that you are seeing in terms of what we should expect going forward?

Mark P. Marron

Analyst

Sure, I think from what we are seeing and what we are hearing from our customers that the market is stable. There is a nice demand for services and security in the market. In this quarter, we had a nice uptick in some verticals such as technology that made a difference in our numbers for this quarter. And I think cloud is kind of cooler more flexible option if you will as it continues to involve. So the hyper converged and place like that I think will continue to evolve as well. And as it relates to storage, I think a lot of customers are taking a look at both the legacy players in terms of what they have in the flash space, well as some of the emerging technologies and trying to make those decisions as they move forward.

Prabhakar Gowrisankaran

Analyst

The last question I had was just in terms of the receivables, it’s at all time high. Is it just the linearity in the quarter and that’s why it’s high at these levels. If you can provide any color in terms of is this new norm or how we should think about receivables?

Elaine D. Marion

Analyst

Sure. In terms of our total accounts receivable, we have a near investment grade portfolio of accounts receivable. I talked earlier about our cash conversion cycle this quarter was comparable to the same quarter last year at a 12 day cash conversion cycle which is pretty good in the industry. In terms of the dollar amount, this particular quarter was a little bit back ended in terms of the amount that we invoiced. So I’m not expecting - there is no issues in our AR. We are very pleased with the progress that we are making in the collections process in the AR.

Prabhakar Gowrisankaran

Analyst

Great. And that’s all the questions I had.

Mark P. Marron

Analyst

Thanks Prabh.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Matt Sheerin of Stifel. Your line is now open.

Matthew Sheerin

Analyst

Yes thanks and good afternoon everyone. Just a couple of questions from me. Just obviously you had a very, very strong quarter and last quarter I think you were talking just growing modestly above market obviously with this double-digit growth here much better. It sounds like it’s somewhat backend loaded. I’m trying to figure out the seasonality of your business and maybe it’s changed because of the focus of the business and the product focus. But as we look to the December quarter which going back years look like it’s up a couple of points sequentially. After this very strong quarter are you still expecting sequential growth in December or maybe a little bit more conservative for this very strong quarter here. Just trying to get a sense of the trajectory of your growth whether it will continue to accelerate or not?

Mark P. Marron

Analyst

Well a couple of different things Matt. So as it relates to the revenue side we agree with you. We feel we had a very good quarter and we are happy with the results. The sales and services team did a really nice job of executing on our overall plans as an organization and we believe we will continue to outpace the market as it relates to where the industry is going from an industry average standpoint. There are a couple of things that I think always happened in this quarter, you got fiscal year end which is in July and as noted little bit earlier with Prabh in terms of the percentage of our business with Cisco US led and the other few other verticals if you will that contributed to our numbers for this quarter. So, net-net we're happy with the results, the team really executed well for the quarter and we believe we’ll continue to outpace the market as we move forward.

Matthew Sheerin

Analyst

Okay. I appreciate, that doesn't really answer the question, which is do you expect to growth sequentially in December? Which would be or basically, you are coming off of a 13% year-over-year growth which is very strong, are you expecting to continue that year-over-year growth rates?

Mark P. Marron

Analyst

So in terms of - as you know, Matt from our numerous meetings, we don't give forward-looking statements as it relates to that. So, I think, you are going to have to take a look at the historical and that's probably the best way for you to take a look at it.

Matthew Sheerin

Analyst

Okay. That's fair enough. And on the SG&A, it was up only about 1.5 million or so on a very strong revenue growth and how much of the - I know that, as I think you said, Elaine 75% of the SG&A is tied to salaries and comp, are they variable comps? So, given the very strong sales in the quarter are variable comps that are either paid out in September or December, just trying to get a sense of what that SG&A number might look like in the December quarter?

Elaine D. Marion

Analyst

Matt, I think as I said in my comments, I think you really should look at our historical norms in order to look at the quarters to come in terms of our SG&A percentage in OpEx percentages going forward.

Matthew Sheerin

Analyst

Okay. So does that mean, because SG&A as percentage fell well below where you have been? You have been 14% or higher, so would that mean that you are expecting to go back above that? And then also I guess related to that Mark you talked about some headcount additions, can you be more specific about what you're looking to doing and what the investments might entail in terms of SG&A?

Mark P. Marron

Analyst

Well in terms of headcount is pretty simple, as what we've called customer facing both sales and services. So, on the sale side it be in the security space and folks that consult services as well as software and other services side, it's continuing to add both presales, additional managed services headcount and things along those lines as we go forward. So, if I could fence it in for you a little bit Matt, if you think about the four Ss in terms of services, security, software and solutions, those would be the areas that we're going to continue to invest and headcounts to provide the solution that our customers are looking for. As it relates to the SG&A, I think as Elaine alluded, I think the easiest way for you to look at the historical and as our variable comp, just so you understand, we just have standard comp plans where our reps are paid on gross profit. So, if that helps? I don't know if that helps around your variable piece.

Matthew Sheerin

Analyst

Okay. And looking at the markets, the SLED market, it sounds like that was up sequentially, it was up primarily because I know you don't play very big in the federal market was that primarily state and local or was the education market also strong. CDW commented at this morning that the education was a little bit softer than they expected because of timing of e-rate funding, I'm not sure what you're seeing there?

Mark P. Marron

Analyst

Well there is couple of things, as it relates to e-rate, you applied for e-rate you then accepted and then overtime you have to kind of pull that through to fruition. So, e-rate was a small part of that if you will, but it was a part of it. Our SLED business in the higher education space, we're starting to see lot more opportunities as it relates to security and some other areas that's we're starting to see come to fruition based on the security plans that we built in the SLED space. As it relates to verticals that we had a big uptick in our technology vertical compared to prior years and one other thing. We're continuing to build out healthcare plans with a lot of these major vendors and that includes some of these providers like Meditech and Epic, so we're starting to see that come to fruition as it relates to healthcare. So those would be the main ones and quite honestly our top five verticals are the same five verticals every times, so technology, telecom, SLED, healthcare and finance.

Matthew Sheerin

Analyst

Okay. And did you have any 10% customers in the quarter?

Mark P. Marron

Analyst

Well we don't do it for the quarter, we only do that on an annual basis. So at the end of last fiscal 2015, we did not have any customers that were 10% of our revenues.

Matthew Sheerin

Analyst

Okay. Thanks a lot Mark, I appreciate it.

Mark P. Marron

Analyst

No problem Matt, we will see you soon.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Matthew Galinko of Sidoti. Your line is now open.

Matthew Galinko

Analyst

Hey guys. Thanks for taking my question.

Mark P. Marron

Analyst

Hey Matt.

Elaine D. Marion

Analyst

Hi Matt.

Matthew Galinko

Analyst

So, I guess you mentioned share gains a couple of times on your prepared script and I’m just wondering how you are measuring it, is it sort of just comparing your growth rate to the industry or are you noticing better win rates? Just a little more color on that.

Mark P. Marron

Analyst

Hey Matt a lot of that has to do with how we're going to market and what we're trying to sale, so part of our overall plans is getting a little tighter in our execution around how we're covering the accounts not only from a rep standpoint, but also from a marketing and social media and things along those lines. We also have more granular plans in terms of how we’re trying to uncover net new accounts and how we expand those into bigger existing accounts overtime. So those are some of the things that you see and as we noted, we got over 3,000 customers now that we can go back to and sell across a lot of different areas that’s helping us both from a revenue standpoint as well as from a GP standpoint, gross profit standpoint.

Matthew Galinko

Analyst

Got you and then maybe one more on the healthcare when you highlighted, I think you mentioned started with an audit progress to pretty involved process, so is that typically how you are seeing security engagements work their way in and do you pipeline of audits that you are performing and hope to expand into larger relationships or a little bit more of that as well?

Mark P. Marron

Analyst

All right Matt, just in case our competitors will listen, I won’t talk about our pipeline or forecast, but what I can tell you on the security side it’s pretty simple it’s all about kind of keeping the bad buys down in terms of securing the parameters. Once they are in if they are we are just keeping the data secure from a data center standpoint, but more importantly its start with our security services which is a combination of assessment and security health check. So what happen with this customer was it was the security health check that we did for the customer and found that they had [indiscernible] on an audit that was done and then from there we were able to go in and kind of create – here is we had a security gaps, where we solved that with the parameter solution that we did and then on top of it we then proposed our security stack which was really more of a combination, not only just on the end point, but also the analytics and intelligence they needed to kind of run their business going forward. I think the other thing to note from a security that I wanted to go back to - I want to mention that [indiscernible] as well as what we are seeing in this security space, if you look at Cisco’s acquisition of Lancope right. There is a vendor that we’re working with as it relates to source prior they are now expanding their capability into the networking analytics space, which is what we know very well from a networking standpoint. So we’re able to go back sell security in that space back to our existing customers. The other thing that’s probably important to note, we were just recently named Palo Alto Networks growth partner of the year as well. So we’re putting a lot of focus on the key vendors in each of those spaces and then manning our sales and services teams with the tools they need to go in and sit with our customers understand what their needs and issues are and then build solutions to address it. That's what happened with that customer.

Matthew Galinko

Analyst

Excellent, thank you.

Mark P. Marron

Analyst

No problem thanks, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And at this time, I would like to turn the call over to Phil Norton for any closing remarks.

Phillip G. Norton

Analyst

We would like to thank you for joining us today and we look forward to speaking with you again on the next quarter.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen thank you for your participation on today’s conference. This concludes your program. You may now disconnect. Everyone have a great day.