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The Children's Place, Inc. (PLCE)

Q3 2019 Earnings Call· Wed, Dec 11, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to The Children's Place Third Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. This call is being recorded. If you object to our recording of this call, please disconnect at this time. All participants have been placed in a listen-only mode and the floor will be open for your questions following the presentation. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Anthony Attardo, Director of Investor Relations to begin.

Anthony Attardo

Analyst

Good morning, and welcome to The Children's Place conference call. On the call today are Jane Elfers, President and Chief Executive Officer; Mike Scarpa, Chief Operating Officer and Chief Financial Officer. The Children's Place issued press releases early this morning and copies of the releases and presentation materials for today's call have been posted on the Investor Relations section of the company's website. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. Before we begin, I would like to remind participants that any forward-looking statements made today are subject to the Safe Harbor statement found in this morning's press release as well as in the company's SEC filings, including the Risk Factors section of the company's Annual Report on Form 10-K for its most recent fiscal year. These forward-looking statements involve risk and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. The company undertakes no obligation to publicly release any revisions to these forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after the date hereof. After the prepared remarks, we will open the call to your questions. We ask that each of you limit yourself to one question so that everyone will have an opportunity. And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to Jane Elfers.

Jane Elfers

Analyst

Thank you, Anthony, and good morning, everyone. After reviewing Q3 results, I'll provide you with an update on three key strategic areas of focus that support continued market share gains. First, I'll discuss our recently announced Gymboree relaunch plans; next, I'll update the status of our digital transformation; and last, I'll recap how the execution of our strategic initiatives along with our superior product and low-pricing model position us to continue to capture market share in various economic environments despite disruptive industry consolidation and persistent declines in U.S. birth rates. First, Q3 results, our key product categories resonated strongly with mom in the back-to-school season, the second most important shopping period of the year. In fact, we believe we were one of the top destinations for key back-to-school categories this year further solidifying our preeminent position in the U.S. kids specialty apparel market. Our e-commerce business continued its stellar performance delivering 23% growth and representing a record 35% penetration to total sales a 650 basis point increase versus last year. We also saw a return to higher AURs in our stores during Q3 primarily driven by less promotional activity. Driven by a strong back-to-school season, we delivered a positive 0.8% comp in Q3 on top of a positive 9.5% comp in Q3 a year ago despite multiple headwinds including prolonged warmer weather into late October, which negatively impacted sales of colder weather products in key regions across the country. Considering our belief that there were elevated inventory levels at a basket of our key competitors entering the quarter, our Q3 outlook provided on our Q2 conference call, anticipated the high likelihood of increased promotional activity in the kids' apparel space. We also called out a very unfavorable year-on-year weather compare in October as colder weather arrived early in October last…

Mike Scarpa

Analyst

Thank you, Jane, and good morning, everyone. Today I will provide an update on our fleet optimization initiatives in our wholesale and international businesses before reviewing our financial results and our outlook. First, an update on fleet optimization. We opened six locations in Q3 bringing our year-to-date openings to 10 as part of the 25 stores we plan to open over the next two years in centers that were highly productive for Gymboree based on our detailed analysis of Gymboree store sales. We closed 12 locations in Q3, bringing the year-to-date closures to 27 locations. We now plan to close approximately 60 locations in 2019 versus our prior plan to close 40 to 45 locations, which would bring our total store closure number to 271 towards our plan to close 300 locations by the end of 2020. Within malls, we continue to maintain a very high percentage of our locations in productive A and B centers. Our real estate team continues to strategically limit our exposure to the troubled outlet channel with only one of our stores located in what we've classified, as a dying outlet center. We're armed with meaningful flexibility in our real estate portfolio, with an average lease term of 2.5 years. And with approximately 1,000 lease events pending in the next few years, which leaves us nimble and well equipped to close additional doors, in response to the outsized growth we're seeing in our digital business. Wholesale and international, our wholesale business saw a double-digit growth again this quarter, with growth accelerating at each of our key wholesale partners. We continued expansion of our international distribution in Q3. We opened up, 34 net new international points of distribution in the quarter. And now have 260 international points of distribution, in 19 countries, opened and operated by…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of John Morris of D.A. Davidson.

John Morris

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning, everybody. So Jane, I hear you on the weakness that we've seen in September and October thwarting the third quarter, but now with the Q4 guide on comp being as weak as it is to what reasons would you see it persisting? Just trying to kind of understand why we're continuing to get those kinds of headwinds so far if it's ostensibly not so much weather in the current quarter? That's my first question. Thanks.

Jane Elfers

Analyst

Sure. When we look at our Q4 business quarter-to-date, there is a significant delta between our performance and our U.S. malls versus our performance in our U.S. outlets versus our performance online versus our performance in Canada. So if we break it down, clearly online is the star continues to outperform and digital penetration continues each quarter to exceed our expectations. But as far as the difference between our mall stores and our outlet stores, we're seeing a significant delta in traffic trends between these two brick-and-mortar channels versus what we've seen through the first three quarters of the year. So, our mall-based traffic is trending significantly below outlet traffic quarter-to-date, which is leading to a pretty big disparity in top line trend in our mall stores over our outlet stores. If you look at Canada, we're seeing a slightly positive comp trend quarter-to-date. So, really what we're thinking of is during the November timeframe, it looks like our consumer shifted to off-mall value retailers in a more pronounced way this year in order to take advantage of what has been widely reported as more of a month-long Black Friday promotion, Black November, if you will, really moving off-mall to take advantage of higher ticket promotions. And we think that the uptick, if you will, in outlet traffic and the big disparity from the first three quarters of the year, and seeing these outlet channels turn on from a traffic and sales point of view, is probably benefiting from the traffic, that the larger off-mall players are driving through their promotional activity, through the month of November. And also like we said, there's a strong focus on higher ticket and seasonal categories. What we've heard so far and read in quarter-to-date, is the mall-based department store anchors, they're not driving nearly the same levels of traffic to traditional malls, through November as the big-box retailers have been able to do. Then also as we said on our last call, later than normal Thanksgiving, we thought it would impact November traffic and sales, to the degree of about $5 million. So when you look at e-comm and you look at Canada. And you see those channels performing significantly different I think that supports the theory that, we're seeing the traffic through November to really be heavily weighted towards off mall. And so as we get closer to the holiday season, it's possible that the consumer shift their attention back to lower ticket value-oriented categories, we'll know shortly.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Susan Anderson of B. Riley FBR.

Susan Anderson

Analyst

Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I was wondering if you could talk about the puts and takes of growth margin, in the quarter. I guess, how much of the decline was promotions, versus shipping? I guess just curious to see what the offset is to the lower AUC you've been getting? And then, on the delivery front, I know there were issues last year, just curious if that happening. And how the 3PL is going so far for fourth quarter? And if you're planning on, getting any of those costs back from last year? Thanks.

Mike Scarpa

Analyst

Susan, from a gross margin perspective, we were down $130 million basis points in the quarter to 37.8, really driven by the increase in penetration of our e-commerce business. We discussed last quarter that, we had anticipated that margins would in pretty similar to the margin decline that we had in Q2, which was 150 basis points. Overall, we saw merchandise margins were relatively flat in the quarter, with store merchandise margins slightly higher than last year, driven by higher AURs and the lower AUCs we've been speaking about. So the dilution really in the quarter was driven, really by the costs associated with e-com fulfillment, really as a result of that increased penetration to 35% of sales. That along with additional fulfillment costs associated with expedited shipping that we incurred at the beginning of the quarter, for our back-to-school season were the main drivers behind the overall dilution. From a 3PL perspective, really pleased to report that, the Radial integration has been well executed. They're hitting their planned output, which is enabling us to really significantly reduce days that the orders are in the D.C. We'll plan to ship over four million units with Radial during this quarter, so, well on the distribution front.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Tiffany Kanaga of Deutsche Bank.

Tiffany Kanaga

Analyst

Hi. Thanks for taking our questions. I know there's still a big quarter ahead with the holiday season left to go. But can you help us start to frame the 2020 conversation with a better idea for how much comp reacceleration and margin recapture if possible in your view, especially, in light of your guide down today with comp stock trends decelerating so sharply in the fourth quarter?

Mike Scarpa

Analyst

Our thought is we're going to wait and see how this holiday season plays out. Obviously, there's a lot of puts and takes associated with the quarter. Obviously, November as it compared to last year is our toughest compare and compares get easier as we move on. So we're going to just -- we'll be providing 2020 outlooks in our fourth quarter earnings call. At this point, we're really not going to speak about it.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Paul Lejuez of Citi Research.

Paul Lejuez

Analyst

Hey, thanks guys. Can you maybe talk high level about how to think about managing the sales gross margin equation? It seems like currently you're focused on higher AURs despite calling out a promotional environment should we think of that as the strategy go forward? And can it continue if the competition remains promotional? And then just second, I'm curious what GAAP EPS would be for 4Q and your expectations for free cash flow this year? Thanks.

Mike Scarpa

Analyst

We look at sales and gross margin and we try to balance both components. Obviously, we are -- continue to focus on our inventory management, which will bode well for us in Q4 of this year. If you remember last year, we diluted margins almost 300 basis points based on the Gymboree bankruptcy and our decision to accelerate sale of seasonal carryover inventory. Good news is coming into Q4. We actually owned significantly less goods than we did a year ago in terms of our holiday and full seasonal basics roughly over three million units less than we did a year ago. So that bulk of units that we had to liquidate in the fourth quarter last year. We don't anticipate that we'll have any of those goods like that. So it's really a balance overall in terms of sales and margin. And the good news is we do expect margins to increase in the fourth quarter. As far as SG&A goes we've been down in absolute dollars each of the last two quarters and we're anticipating that decline will continue in Q4 of this year.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of David Buckley of Bank of America.

David Buckley

Analyst

Good morning. Thanks for taking our questions. Jane, in the past you discussed how there's not a lot of loyalty from a customer in this industry. Just building on the prior question, how do you balance raising prices while also driving traffic? And then just looking out to your -- the inventory guide at the end of the fourth quarter are you planning first quarter comps next year at a similar rate as inventories expect to end the year?

Jane Elfers

Analyst

Thanks. I don't think we're going to talk about Q1 of next year. As far as the loyalty/ -- my price rewards -- private label credit card. We continue to see good growth in those programs. So I think from a loyalty perspective, we've done a pretty good job over the past years having our product and our offerings resonate with mom. If you just come up a little bit from the conversation. We've been share takers for almost a decade now, while remaining net store closures, and when you look back at Q3 that was really no different. We're one of the few kids' retailers to comp positive and we picked up share in the third quarter. And most of the kids retailers we've read about have reported anywhere from negative low-single-digit comps to negative mid-single-digit negative comps for Q3. And for the most part are providing similar Q4 outlook. I think when you think about the fact that our mall-based business is in the high-30s right now after a lot of work on fleet optimization. When you throw in e-com, our mall-based business is in the high 30s and when you think about what Mike said with 1,000 lease activities in the next few years coming up and a digital business that continues to exceed its plan every quarter, there's a lot of flexibility within our hands and to look at those percentages and continue to drive that e-commerce percentage up continue to drive that off-mall percentage up and continue to drive that mall percentage down. We've said that there's $12 billion of apparel sales from poorly positioned kids retailers that are rapidly consolidating and closing, and that implies the $600 million per year is redistributed. And as I said at the beginning, we've been able to take good advantage of that redistribution for almost a decade, and we see really no change to that. We're seeing a change in Q4 to date. We're seeing that they off-mall players are able to drive a significant amount of traffic to their locations in the month of November through their promotions. People are out there, and they're buying hard goods, and they're buying electronics, and they're buying televisions, and they're not visiting them all yet right now. And so, if that's what we have to do and we have to look at that for next year and we have to make some adjustments or more adjustments than we were thinking of making to our mall-based locations and drive our e-comm business up even further than those are the decisions we'll make. But from a market share point of view, we have no intention of not continuing to gain market share and continue to focus on getting that profitability back and continue to get those margin levels back where they were pre-Gymboree.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your final question will come from the line of Jim Chartier of Monness, Crespi, Hardt.

Jim Chartier

Analyst

Thanks for taking my question. Mike last quarter you addressed some social media complaints about back-to-school shipping, how are you doing now? We've continued to see some complaints online, but can you just talk about how your e-commerce shipping has been post back-to-school? And then have the use of Radial might help that? Thanks.

Mike Scarpa

Analyst

Sure. Obviously, we integrated with Radial in the third quarter for holiday shipping in the fourth quarter. It's been a very smooth integration. It's been well-executed by both teams. We're shipping our planned output from Radial during this peak holiday period, and as I mentioned before we'll ship over four million units from the Radial facility during the quarter. We have seen a significant decrease in days backlog. Last year, it was as high as seven days after Black Friday. I'm happy to report right now we're trending about 1.5 day of backlog in our DC. So surprised to hear that you're seeing complete on social media, because we haven't seen it. We did have the back-to-school pickup. We did accelerate expedited shipping during it to meet our SLAs, which we think we did about 99% of our SLAs delivered our SLAs delivered within the 10-day period. But we believe that's all behind us now. We have a facility that's still ramping up that has plenty of capacity left. And in the meantime, we're also utilizing some of our omnichannel fulfillment capabilities, such as, ship from store, though to a much less of an extent than we did the prior year. We have BOPIS, which is buy online pick up in-store. And BOSS for those individuals that don't need rush shipments. So, all in all, we're very pleased with the fourth quarter distribution situation.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for joining us today. If you have further questions, please call Investor Relations, at 201-453-6693. You may now disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.