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Photronics, Inc. (PLAB)

Q4 2021 Earnings Call· Wed, Dec 8, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Photronics Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year 2021 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participant lines are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded, Wednesday, December 8, 2021. I would now like to turn the conference over to John, Executive Vice President and CFO.

John Jordan

Analyst

Thank you, Shannon. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to our review of Photronics' fiscal year 2021 fourth quarter and full-year financial results. Joining me this morning are Peter Kirlin, our Chief Executive Officer, and Chris Progler, our Chief Technology Officer. The press release we issued earlier this morning, along with the presentation material, which accompanies our remarks, are available on the Investor Relations section of our web page. Comments made by any participants on today's call may include forward-looking statements that include such words as anticipate, believe, estimate, expect, forecast, in our view. These forward-looking statements are based upon a number of risks, uncertainties and other factors that are difficult to predict. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied, and we assume no obligation to update any forward-looking information. At this time, I will turn the call over to Peter.

Peter Kirlin

Analyst

Thank you, John. And good morning, everyone. We ended 2021 with accelerating momentum in a market environment of robust design activity from our diverse customer base. In addition, we strategically expanded capacity in 2021, most notably in display with the addition of three new lithography tools. These factors, among others, enable us to deliver another quarter and year of record revenues across the business, including both IC and FPD. This is our fourth consecutive year of record revenue, demonstrating our ability to drive our top line up the entirety of a semiconductor industry cycle. These increasing levels of performance have been made possible by the efforts of the entire team to provide outstanding customer service coupled with solid investments in the right technology in the proper location to position us to win in the marketplace. In addition to growing the top line, we expanded margins during the quarter. This was driven by operating leverage, the ability to realize higher prices in mainstream products from the present focus on cost reduction. It was just one year ago, in December, when we communicated our long-term target model, the gross margins in the high 20s and operating margins in the high teens. Today, we are already operating in the upper end of that model. While we recognize the need to improve, we are extremely pleased with the progress that we have made and even more excited about what is possible going forward. Cash flow was strong for the quarter and the year, enabled us to maintain a strong balance sheet while investing in organic growth and returning cash to shareholders. Since initiating our first share repurchase program in 2018, we have brought back $128 million of shares, reducing our share count by approximately 12 million, a testament to our commitment to creating shareholder…

John Jordan

Analyst

Thank you, Peter. And good morning again. Record fourth quarter revenue of $181 million was driven by the same enablers we've seen throughout 2021 – strong demand, growth in new designs for semiconductors and displays that are enabled by our leading technology, unparalleled geographic presence and strategic investments to expand capacity. Fourth quarter revenue improved 6% sequentially and 21% compared with last year. Demand strength was broad based, including both IC and FPD and across both mainstream and high end products. Both IC and FPD also posted record revenues for Q4 and the full year. In IC, the high end business grew primarily from logic demand from Asia foundries, memory demand remained fairly stable. In mainstream, revenue increase was driven by the demand profile that Peter commented on and the pricing actions we've enacted since earlier last year. We believe these market trends are sustainable and expect to continue IC growth with more investments planned in 2022. FPD strength was driven by displays for mobile applications, as well as a recovery in mainstream LCD demand. We've stated before that the LCD photomask market was soft as customers focused on mass producing existing products to ship into their strong display markets. Thus, we're not releasing new products. We saw this trend start to shift in the fourth quarter as panel makers began to introduce new product designs to maintain or expand market share. This recovery, together with continued strength in mobile displays and the full year benefit of our tools installed during 2021, instills confidence that 2022 will be another record year for FPD revenue. Demand for products shipped into China was strong again, setting a record in Q4 and for the full year. On a consolidated basis, China now represents 37% of our total revenue. In FPD, photomask demand in…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from the line of Patrick Ho with Stifel.

Brian Chin

Analyst

This is Brian on for Patrick. Congratulations on the execution and results. Maybe the first question. Clearly, the mainstream IC photomask revenue was very strong Q-on-Q. Can you just maybe first break out how much of that sequential increase was attributable to volume versus pricing, which seems to be having a significant effect on revenue and on gross margins?

John Jordan

Analyst

I think we've commented on that in the past, Brian. We've got about two margin points out of price increases compared to – prior to when we when we started increasing prices. So, you can calculate that difference.

Peter Kirlin

Analyst

Yeah. And I would also point out that if you – I've been here 14 years. The mainstream business over that period maybe vacillates between $665 million at the top end and $240 million on the bottom. And last year, we had $300 million in revenue in the mainstream segment, which is 20% up year-over-year. We exited the year, as you pointed out, the $325 million run rate.

Brian Chin

Analyst

I guess, thinking about just the fiscal 1Q January guidance and thinking about the potential for further IC photomask increases in Europe, what kind of favorable benefit do you think could materialize in the fiscal first quarter on the gross margins?

John Jordan

Analyst

We expect them to stay essentially the same. The revenue increase and the margin difference will probably stay pretty similar. As we are increasing prices, as we mentioned, in the other geographies, the revenue will increase and the difference in modules stay right around the same.

Peter Kirlin

Analyst

As far as the market is concerned, you're too young to remember the ASIC business. But when I was young, the ASIC business – the photomask content in the ASIC business when companies like LSI Logic were going great guns, it was about 3% of IC revenue. It was the best market for a mask maker. And Moore's Law and FPGAs basically destroyed the ASIC business over many years. But given the fact that the economic paradigm that was part of Moore's Law has derailed, what we see happening and what people now call legacy foundry is really ASIC market rebounding because it doesn't make economic sense to put more of those transistors on that very expensive [indiscernible]. So for us, this is great because it has the photomask revenue dollar content per silicon dollar content that's similar to what we saw before. There's a lot of photomask revenue leverage in legacy foundry.

John Jordan

Analyst

So I think the key takeaway from this, Brian, is the change in – it's essentially a change in the paradigm where the pricing environment is going to be sustained over at least medium term. And I think our margins show that benefit and will continue to show that.

Brian Chin

Analyst

I think your fiscal 2022 CapEx is somewhat flattish relative to what the fiscal 2021 was. You did add three FPD tools last year. And so, this year, given sort of the dynamics in fiscal 2022, do you expect that to shift that more towards IC relative to FPD? And any other color you can provide on sort of what tools and where you're placing them on the IC side?

John Jordan

Analyst

I think we mentioned that during the comments. The tools are designed to supplement the existing capacity in several locations in IC, and then some significant deposits for tools, again, IC tools, that we expect to have delivered and ramp up in fiscal 2023. So, it's not any one location where we can say we're adding a major tool and major capacity. We're kind of putting in tools that are necessary to get the full benefit out of existing tools. So, where we may be limited with inspection capacity for one of our lithography tools, we need more inspection capacity. So, we would add that and optimize the production out of the lithography tool.

Brian Chin

Analyst

Maybe one last one. It doesn't seem apparent based on the results, but did you see any disruptions direct or indirect in the quarter, not only from supply chain, but really, in particular, the power outages that are occurring in China? And how's that sort of factor into your outlook as well?

Peter Kirlin

Analyst

As far as the supply chain, material supply chain is concerned, we, like everybody else, had issues with local suppliers. But unlike most others, we have a global footprint. So, if we had a problem with a supplier in Asia, we reacted to that problem with a supplier, existing supplier in the US or Europe, for example, just to give an example. So, the supply chain, even though there was disruptions, they didn't [Technical Difficulty] business. Likewise, if you look at the rolling outages in China, we cannot afford to have our operations go down. So, we have our own backup power generation as part of our standard facilitation package, so to speak. So, as a result of that, we have been able to manage where others have struggled. So, the answer is absolutely not, no disruption. None.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from Tom Diffely with D.A. Davidson.

Thomas Diffely

Analyst · D.A. Davidson.

Congratulations on especially a great outlook during the seasonally weak January quarter. Peter, I am old enough to remember the ASIC market back in the 90s and early 2000s. And it was the heyday for your business and hopefully we return there. So, on the mainstream business, I'm curious, in the past, we've talked about how the pricing there did not support the addition of new tools. Has that dynamic changed? And can you now buy new tools to economically support the mainstream business?

Peter Kirlin

Analyst · D.A. Davidson.

Yeah. So, to be clear, the answer is we still cannot, with the current pricing, install new lines to support the mainstream demand. That's one of the reasons why we're reasonably optimistic that the market pricing environment is going to stay strong. But what you can do, and our CapEx plan this year, as John described it, we're sprinkling lithography or inspection tools around our global network – most of them admittedly are in Asia, but not all of them – to try to take advantage of the installed toolset to just add an incremental bump up, where the price of – as I said, it's either inspection or lithography, given the other tools that are already in place, allows the tool to hit our hurdle rate for return on invested capital. So, this is a dynamic situation. Pricing does not support full lines, but it does support, in almost every factory, we have one or two tools to maximize the value of what we already got. So, that's what we're doing. Never seen a year like this. Never seen a year where there's no high end tools bought, but there's now going to be. It's really sprinkle the foo-foo dust everywhere you can to maximize sparkle.

Thomas Diffely

Analyst · D.A. Davidson.

Sounds like that's kind of good news, in the sense that you don't see a big surge of new capacity be added on the mainstream side, which would hurt the dynamics over time. It sounds like it's going to remain in this limited capacity, and hopefully, good pricing environment for some time to come.

Peter Kirlin

Analyst · D.A. Davidson.

Yeah. And eventually, of course, if price goes up and up and up, which would be a great thing, there'll be a dynamic good where new lines make economic sense. And that will be different for – how we look at that versus a competitive looks at that, of course, will be similar, but not the same. But I think we're still – unless they have a different set of tool suppliers than we do, we're still quite a ways from that point. But as I said, our mainstream business year-over-year grew 25% and we're at a rate that's considerably above that in the fourth quarter. So, there is a lot of growth. And when you listen to companies like Applied, when they tell you that they're now selling more 8 inch capacity and coordinated the heyday to the 200 millimeter expansion, it's pretty clear that there's a lot of capacity that's going to be installed. And I think this has taken even very seasoned industry executives by surprise, but it's the fact that the economic power of Moore's Law has been derailed. And what was going on for years, what ate out the ASIC market, as you know, is, hey, that function was consolidated on a die that had three others because the silicon was almost free. Not true. It's not true. So where this goes, I think nobody really has a real clear picture. But what is clear, and I was talking to someone this morning, is this segment of our business is going to grow, and it's going to grow materially. So, this is great for a mask maker because, as I said earlier, the mask content of ASICs was always by far the best in any product line. The best.

Thomas Diffely

Analyst · D.A. Davidson.

That makes a lot of sense. My second question on the mainstream business is, are you seeing the particular strength – is it just broad based across all categories? Or is it really the rise of some of these new segments, like power EVs that is really driving the growth? You talk to equipment guys, they're seeing power EV as the big driver for incremental equipment purchases, and kind of curious what your trends are?

Peter Kirlin

Analyst · D.A. Davidson.

No, those are very strong sectors for us as well, right? Because as I said in my prepared remarks, it's very clear, where silicon goes, photomask follows. And the other great thing about EVs is, boy, the display content in those is something special. Something special. So, not only does it help our IC business, which we're talking a lot about, but it's fabulous for our display business, which hit a new record last quarter. And as John clearly said, we expect another record in Q1. That business is screaming now.

Thomas Diffely

Analyst · D.A. Davidson.

Maybe the final question then for Chris. What are you seeing on the technology side for flat panel? Is it really the move between mainstream or, I should say, LCD and OLED? Or are you starting to see some creep-in of mini/micro LED? And if so, what is the impact from that on the photomask side?

Christopher Progler

Analyst · D.A. Davidson.

I would say no disruptive change on the trends we've highlighted in the past, which is the gradual pivot of capacity from LCD type displays to AMOLED. There was a bit of a pause on that in the last year or so because a lot of the panel makers wanted to take advantage of higher LCD display prices. So, there was some capacity put into that. But by our view, it's kind of recovered and the trend to replace a lot of the capacity or add new capacity for AMOLED now continues, and we think that'll continue unabated for the next three, five years. So, those displays are more complicated. There's more lithography and mask content in them, as we know. So, that's a positive trend. We also see some additional complex technologies going into TVs. QNED, there's a bunch of acronyms around them. Most of those drive stronger patterning solutions. A lot of them are based on, particularly the Korean panel makers desire to differentiate their products. So they are moving down the technology roadmap on the TV side as well. It's mostly LCD based for the very large ones, Gen 8 and above. But they're adding functionality that's requiring more lithography as well. And we're seeing a lot of the prototype designs for those, and some are actually hitting the market as well. And last, the micro LED is getting a lot of attention. There's a lot of CES, Consumer Electronics Show, displays with full micro LED. Of course, this technology is a very interesting one for the display people. But still seems quite some ways from being used for larger format displays. The mask content in micro LED remains a little bit unclear. One thing that's different about it compared to other displays is it can be…

Peter Kirlin

Analyst · D.A. Davidson.

Chris gave you, Tom, I think a great answer and very comprehensive. I'd like to just chime in on the back of the – if you look at – for example, we've made comments before. If you look at rigid AMOLED – so let's look at – so TFT TV and TFT LCD maybe has 6 to 8 mask levels. Then you can go to rigid AMOLED, it's 12 or 13. And now the most advanced AMOLED displays has maybe 25 or 26 mask levels. So, not only is the specification going up, the mask count is going up, which is great for the mask suppliers, right? One particular customer who will go nameless makes big TVs, and as Chris made comments, I think they were right on the money on the circuit complexity for micro LEDs, not mini, but micro. So, large customer, right now, they're assembling, obviously, 110 inch TV from say 50 PCB boards on the back. And it's Christmas tree like, like Chris described, but not naming them. They have a specific project on display right now to replace those PCDS with LTPS – TFTs. And just as is the case with the most complex AMOLED displays, to build this very complex transistor array, which Chris described accurately, requires 25 mask levels. So, if that market happens to go that way, that'd be great. We would absolutely love that because it would create high specification and high volume. But will it? Right now, that's clearly going to be too expensive. But if it happens, this will be very good for our display business. So early on. But as Chris said, it's very clear, if you want the same functionality, the same visual experience out of that large display, built with micro LEDs, it's going to be built with mask sets that have complexity that's similar to the most advanced AMOLED masks that we make. So, I hope the market goes that way, it'll be great for us.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, there are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to Peter Kirlin for closing comments.

Peter Kirlin

Analyst

Thank you once again for taking time to join us. We appreciate your interest in our company. This is a great time to be associated with Photronics as we continue to raise the bar on our performance by delivering value to our customers, partnering with them to solve all their photomask requirements. At the same time, our financial performance is reaching new highs. We believe we're on the right path to create more value for our shareholders. We look forward to updating you as we move forward. And we wish all of you and your families a wonderful holiday season.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes the conference call for today. We thank you for your participation and ask that you please disconnect your line.