Edward F. Crawford
Analyst
Ajay, let me throw a couple of other thoughts about ATM. This is part of our strategy. If you want to talk about high-tech, I mean, this company in the gas railings and the way it sends this to the engine rather than dropping in gasoline for consumption and burning and the clarity initiatives. This a great company. It fits in perfectly with our initiatives in the rubber business, which has been going on for 3 or 4 years in the turbocharge side of it and of course in our aluminum strategy. I think this is something that fits in perfectly with the company. We're selling to the same people more products and the barrier to entries of some of these products is increasing, but this fuel system is very important. We're selling to everyone, all the transplants with this. So we're excited about the ATM. Again, we did not reach for this. I mean, as you know, we're interested in buying things at multiples of 6 or under or getting them there very, very quickly. Again, in this contest with private equity, they can't go after ATM. They can't go there because they don't want to take on the problems of making the changes. So that's how we split their marriage. It's a great company. They didn't want it to figure out how to get this done, but it's perfect for us and we're solving the problems and we're off to a great start. Again, it's all front-end loaded. It's all expenses up front. The contacts we have are out there 10 to 12 years and they don't get changed gas injection in the engines. They don't get changed turbochargers and they, I'm sure, don't change aluminum. Now I want to go back one more time to this Saet. I know if you're sitting there and you'd say why in the world are they going into a business with more capital equipment in Italy when they're having problems in Warren, Ohio. Well the issue is we're not having problems in Warren, Ohio. The gas and oil might be down, but that doesn't affect the long term. And by combining this with the Ajax Tocco main and Saet in that facility, they ship into Korea, they ship all over. It's an amazing company. We bought this when they're at the right price. Again, it's a turnaround. It's what we do. It's what we're good at. It takes expenses and money up front. But this is not the same. So you see all expenses, everything in these 2 companies all rolled into '14, a more [indiscernible] '14, there'll be a little bit in the first quarter of '15, but that doesn't mean that these aren't going to be great companies, come back and ask about those questions. Great pricing, perfect profile for us and we split through our private equity.