Well, look, I think this sets up potentially where they can both coexist, and one of the reasons for that, and I've talked about this repeatedly, is in a world of technological innovation and disruption, not everyone is a winner. The issue is not whether it's the macroeconomic conditions necessarily that cause a lot of companies to need to restructure their balance sheets, but whether or not their business models have been severely disrupted. So when I just look out with a crystal ball, my crystal ball is equally cloudy to yours, it's far from perfect, but I look at a world where there's tremendous disruption, innovation, which is creating more disruption, and whether it's generative AI, whether it's electrification, whether it's digitization, the world is changing, and that means that not everyone is going to be a winner. Regardless of macro environment, if you are going to have industries that are going to be severely disrupted, that's going to pressure balance sheets and lower interest rates are not going to bail out those companies. So there are industries that will be right for liability management. That is one issue. The second is you are just dealing with a sheer quantum of debt, which is greater today than it was in prior cycles. So if you apply the same percentage of companies that are likely to get caught up and need balance sheet repair, it's the same constant percentage multiplied against a much bigger debt stack. That would suggest greater restructuring activity. And then I think the third is, in a world where there have been relatively few governors on how borrowers can conduct themselves, because of stripped-down covenant packages and the like, the opportunity to more creatively figure out how to restructure or recapitalize the balance sheet, there's more options available. So to me, those are the secular tailwinds which suggest elevated activity for a considerable period of time. Now, what may be a headwind to that business is if rates come down precipitously, that may just mean that the capital markets may be so open and inviting that a lot of those companies will be able to find other ways to muddle through. So I don't know exactly where it's going, but I certainly see a reasonable probability that you could have a more active transaction marketplace and you could have a more active liability management marketplace.