It's a great question, right? We've debated at length with multiple experts and I think all through the industry with colleagues. I think the main difference is that in acne, the bacteria, as you said, resides inside the hair follicle. So when we're measuring superficially with a skin swab, we're not really seeing what's going on inside the hair follicle. So if you recall, in our Phase I, we've actually seen a reduction of the bacterial count, but that's exactly the point, we measured with a swab. And obviously, in a cosmetic study, we're not going to do skin biopsies, punch biopsies to the faces of the volunteers.
So definitely, I think that was the case that we saw the effect happening superficially. It probably did not translate to deeper layers and the [ phage ] of the relatively large structure, and we just did not have a clinical effect, right? Penetration is most likely the issue. Now we're looking into sort of implementing more and more takeaways from this study on atopic dermatitis. But what gives us comfort is that in the end, the bacteria, Staph aureus is a superficial bacteria, right? It's on the skin. When you look at the lesion before; before those lesions, there's low levels of Staph. When you look at the lesions themselves, there is high level of Staph. You can see then the skin swabs with very, very high levels. When the lesion kind of goes away, the level of bacteria kind of go down.
Interestingly, when we looked at different lesions in the same person, you see that it's the same strain over the different lesions, right? So it looks more like an infection. And it's not a bacteria that can go deep into the skin, right? C. acne is one of the most unique bacteria, it only appears in humans only above the shoulder line. There's no other animal that has Staph aureus -- C. acne. There's no good models. So I think in that aspect, it's unique and Staph, again, is a probably more accessible target, and that's why we give a higher likelihood of success in this study.