Earnings Labs

Provident Financial Services, Inc. (PFS)

Q2 2023 Earnings Call· Fri, Jul 28, 2023

$22.98

+0.75%

Key Takeaways · AI generated
AI summary not yet generated for this transcript. Generation in progress for older transcripts; check back soon, or browse the full transcript below.
Transcript

Operator

Operator

Thank you for standing by. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Provident Financial Services, Inc. Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Adriano Duarte, Investor Relations Officer. You may begin your conference.

Adriano Duarte

Analyst

Thank you, Cheryl. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our second quarter earnings call. Today's presenters are President and CEO, Tony Labozzetta, and Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Tom Lyons. Before beginning their review of our financial results, we ask that you please take note of our standard caution as to any forward-looking statements that may be made during the course of today's call. Our disclaimer -- our full disclaimers contained in last evening's earnings release, which has been posted to the Investor Relations page on our website provident.bank. Now it's my pleasure to introduce Tony Labozzetta, who will offer his perspective on our second quarter. Tony?

Tony Labozzetta

Analyst

Thank you, Adriano. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Provident Financial Services earnings call. The disruption to the banking system and resulting volatility that we all experienced in the first quarter has abated and Provident Bank fared well through the instability. These events, however, combined with more rate hikes by the Federal Reserve gave rise to new headwinds for the banking industry in the form of funding challenges as we headed into the second quarter. These funding challenges included more demands by customers for higher rates, needs for more insurance, a disintermediation from low-cost deposits to higher-yielding time deposits and certain deposits shifting to treasury securities. Consequently, we experienced higher deposit betas for the quarter, which increased our funding costs and compressed our net interest margin. Despite these unfavorable market conditions, Provident produced good financial results this quarter, which once again demonstrates the strength of our franchise and talented management team. As a result, we reported earnings of $0.43 per share, an annualized return on average assets of 0.93% and a return on average tangible equity of 10.75%. Excluding merger-related charges and normalizing the CECL provision for stabilized economic forecast, we estimate our core return on average assets was approximately 1.07% for the second quarter. Our capital is strong and comfortably exceeds well capitalized levels. Tangible book value per share expanded 3.6% during the first six months to $15.66 on the strength of our earnings. Our tangible common equity ratio on June 30, was 8.72%. As such, our Board of Directors approved a quarterly cash dividend of $0.24 per share payable on August 25. Presently, our uninsured and uncollateralized deposits were $2.7 billion or approximately 26% of our total deposits. Our on-balance sheet liquidity plus borrowing capacity is $3.8 billion or 140% of uninsured deposits. Our core deposits are…

Tom Lyons

Analyst

Thank you, Tony. And good morning, everyone. As Tony noted, our net income for the quarter was $32 million or $0.43 per share compared with $40.5 million or $0.54 per share for the trailing quarter and $39.2 million or $0.53 per share for the second quarter of 2022. Non-tax deductible charges related to our pending merger with Lakeland Bancorp totaled $2 million in the current quarter and $1.1 million in the trailing quarter. Excluding these merger-related charges, pretax pre-provision earnings for the current quarter were $55.3 million or an annualized 1.6% of average assets. Revenue totaled $118 million for the quarter compared with $130 million for the trailing quarter and $120 million for the second quarter of 2022. Our net interest margin decreased 37 basis points from the trailing quarter to 3.11%. Yield on earning assets improved by 10 basis points versus the trailing quarter as floating and adjustable rate loans repriced favorably and new loan originations reflected higher market rates. This improvement in asset yields, however, was more than offset by an increase in interest-bearing funding costs. Increased funding costs reflected current market conditions, which resulted in an increase in borrowings accompanied by a decrease in deposits. Certain noninterest-bearing balances also moved to our interest-bearing and insured cash sweep product in order to obtain increased deposit insurance. In addition, lower costing demand and savings balance has shifted to higher costing time deposits. The average total cost of deposits increased 37 basis points to 1.42%. This brought our rising rate cycle to date beta to 25%. The average cost of total interest-bearing liabilities increased 59 basis points in the trailing quarter to 2.13%. The prolonged inverted yield curve, ongoing deposit competition and an increase in the attractiveness of investment alternatives continue to impact funding costs. As a result, we expect…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question is from Mark Fitzgibbon of Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Analyst

Hey, good morning, guys. Happy Friday.

Tony Labozzetta

Analyst

Good morning, Mark.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Analyst

Tony, I wondered if there's anything left that you all need to do or provide to the regulators, or have you sort of done all that? And do you have any rough sense what the timing might look like for closing on the Lakeland deal?

Tom Lyons

Analyst

Yeah. So I mean what I can say to that is that -- we have weekly meetings with -- calls with the FDIC to ensure that any questions that are open or anything that's pending has been provided. So we are -- what I look at this is like we're on the back end of that, right? We've given them everything that they need to process the application. Will a question or two arise during their, what I would call, a final analysis? Sure. But from my perspective, and I know I get guided by counsel not to be too forward on this, it just appears that everything is there and they have to go through their process. And so I'm expecting it to happen relatively soon.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Analyst

Great. And then second question, Tom, on the expense trends, obviously, they were great this quarter. And it sounded like expenses might tick up a little bit in the third quarter. Did I hear that correctly?

Tom Lyons

Analyst

I think we'll be able to maintain in the $64 million to $65 million range, Mark. I think like a lot of our peers were cognizant of the pressure net interest margins put on earnings, and we're looking carefully at all our expenses.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Analyst

Okay. And I heard your comments also on the margin sort of bottoming out around 3%. Is that assumed in the third quarter?

Tom Lyons

Analyst

Yes, I think so, Mark. Comes in around 3% and stays there.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Analyst

Okay. And with the strong pipeline that you have and given sort of the softening economic situation, how are you thinking about provisioning levels for the back half of the year?

Tom Lyons

Analyst

No. I think about the total coverage at 97 basis points, and I don't really see it going much higher than that. That was really responsive to the economic forecast, in particular, the commercial property price index, rely on Moody's baseline for economic forecast. And I think they were a little bit slower than some other forecasters may be in catching up on their view of what CRE potential losses. That said, our own book is quite strong, as you saw, really strong in the asset quality metrics overall and no concerns reflected in the current book.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is from Billy Young of RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Billy Young

Analyst

Hey. Good morning, guys. Can you hear me okay?

Tony Labozzetta

Analyst

Perfectly.

Billy Young

Analyst

Great. Maybe kind of a two-part question here to start. First, on loan growth, it looks like you're set up to have continued nice growth into the third quarter with the stronger adjusted pull-through pipelines. Kind of what are your thoughts -- I guess, what are your thoughts on growth in the back half of the year? And then secondly, can you give us an update on your thoughts on funding going forward from here, particularly given the loan-to-deposit ratio at close to 103%?

Tony Labozzetta

Analyst

Sure. I might give it a long-winded answer on the two-part question. So with regards to our lending, we think we -- the pacing that I mentioned during the call at around 6.7% is something that is in the wheelhouse. We still guide to that 5% to 6% growth rate. Pipeline is strong. The activity is strong. Our underwriting is strong. So we feel pretty good about that sector. One of the things that to point out that in the first half of the year, we've seen a substantive growth on the C&I side of the book as well. So there's not that -- which is consistent with our plans. So not to rely so heavily on CRE lending. So if you -- just to give you a quick metric on that, we did about 40% of our production was in C&I versus 27% last year at the same time. So the teams are doing a good job executing on that, and I'm feeling really good. In terms of funding, I guess our expectation, if I were to just throw it out there on a macro basis is that our aim is to probably try to keep deposits stable for the rest of the year. There are -- I don't think it's prudent to have strategies that -- to attract because it's very expensive to do that. That being said, we still grow a lot of our deposits through our business banking program. So we still expect some good activity there and growth. On the municipal side, I think that we had new norms and a lot of the excess money that was in municipalities through stimulus has gone out. So therefore, that -- we don't expect a lot of growth in that sector. And we're aiming to maintain consumer deposits on a level basis. And I think if we can do that, it's a good achievement. That being said, how do you funnel the growth? We're going to fund it through our business banking growth in terms of deposits. We're going to probably go to the wholesale market if needed, given that it's a better pricing play than trying to incrementally price your deposits through some campaign. And lastly, we'll use some securities cash flows that come in to divert those into the lending sector. I think that we're cognizant of loan-to-deposit ratios not going out of bounds, but our estimates show that they're still within the bands that we want to operate in. So we're comfortable pushing for that 5%, 6% as long as it's good, responsible growth because it will also come with some self-funding in that category.

Tom Lyons

Analyst

I was just going to add with some of our peers stepping back a bit in the lending arena, it affords us the ability to continue to be selective, both with regard to pricing and structure. So we're getting looks at some quality loans.

Tony Labozzetta

Analyst

Exactly. Long-winded answer, Bill. Hopefully, I gave you what you needed.

Billy Young

Analyst

You did. And it wasn't long winded at all. Thank. And this, I guess, second question, to kind of follow up on Mark's questioning on the margin. It sounds like -- does it kind of feel like some of the deposit pressures that we saw in the second quarter are -- or normalizing or getting better so far in the third quarter? It sounds like we're pretty close to the margin bottoming here. And if the Fed's hike earlier this week was the last month for this year, do you guys feel better about your ability to kind of incrementally see margin expansion as we get further out from this?

Tom Lyons

Analyst

I do think that's the case, Bill. I think a lot of the industry and ourselves included, have caught up to a degree on the lag that we had on deposits were much closer to our add in market rates. So I think the funding pressure will abate some. I think we've been conservative in our NIM modeling in the assumptions around shift in composition within that portfolio to the higher costing CDs, which we've seen on the consumer side and recognizing the ICS product, which has a rate to it as being one of the areas where we've seen growth as well. And then the beta that we've applied to the most current hike is pretty significant to capture the rest of that lag, I think.

Tony Labozzetta

Analyst

Yeah. And I would just add on that. We're hearing that from the business lines as well. So if you kind of look back at the second quarter, the delta between what we -- where we were pricing and where the markets have moved just kind of widened to a place where customers became extremely aware and obviously, what happened in the first quarter with -- around liquidity. So every time there was a Fed hike, the customers were almost ahead of the Fed hike looking for what's going to happen on their account. It hasn't happened this go around. So this Fed hike, it was silence. And so we're seeing a much -- I'm not suggesting that there's not any of it happening, but it was happening network-wide and now it might be small pieces. So the expectation is, and I think it's consistent with some of what we're hearing from our peers is that slow down. So the customers close the gap between -- or the delta between market and where we were pricing. So it kind of feels like it's leveling off. Secondly, we're not seeing any unusual irrational behaviors from our competition in the marketplace that would result in any dynamic of pricing going into the third and fourth quarter. So that also gives me a little bit of solace to say, yes, we are kind of plateauing in that space. So I think Tom's projection on the margin given that all of it is coming nearly from the funding side pressure is -- that's why we can make that statement. Secondly, there is another element here in terms of the Fed's hike that Tom and I talk about and that is that our assets will continue to price up. And if the behavior on the deposits kind of subsided, we might see -- we might add a little bit of benefit in that category to stabilize any further.

Tom Lyons

Analyst

On the asset side, within the loan book, 52% of that is variable rate with 24% within that being floating. We saw the on-rate move up to [6.375%] (ph) I think it was roughly in the second quarter. We saw the portfolio rate at 7.24% and the -- I'm sorry, the pipeline rate and the portfolio yield currently 5.24%. If you look at the average balance growth in loans versus the spot balance, too, you can see the average balance is lagging. So some of that production we saw in Q2, we're going to see greater benefit from in Q3. So all those things are helping to maintain that margin by some nice improvement in asset yield over the projection.

Tony Labozzetta

Analyst

But I just -- I think it's probably a good time for me to also express that as an organization, we're very cognizant on risk, and we're not doing anything from a standpoint of trying to stretch in any areas to make up for this margin pressure. We're just going along, doing our strong business. We like the nature and quality of the loans that we're putting on, and we feel good about a lot of things, except just that the funding cost is market-driven. And other than that, we're staying resilient to our risk management processes.

Billy Young

Analyst

Perfect. Thank you very much for taking my questions.

Tom Lyons

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is from Michael Perito of KBW. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Michael Perito

Analyst

Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question.

Tony Labozzetta

Analyst

Good morning, Mike.

Michael Perito

Analyst

Tom, are you able to maybe rehash or update us on kind of where -- obviously some time as past rates have changed. Do you have new kind of pro form a capital ratios for the bank, assuming Lakeland closes in the back half of the year at some point or a range or just some guidepost around how you're thinking about that?

Tom Lyons

Analyst

Really trying to look where we stand versus total risk-based capital at the bank level. That's the weakest ratio among there, where we're in excess of well-capitalized levels on our pro forma projections. So they have improved over the course of the years, both companies have managed their capital and had good earnings over the course of the first six months.

Michael Perito

Analyst

So relative to what you guys communicated when the deal was announced, it sounds like they'd be modestly higher, just based on the capital build at both institutions?

Tom Lyons

Analyst

That’s correct.

Michael Perito

Analyst

Okay. And I wanted to also just ask on the non-interest income side, if you have any -- I apologize if I missed this, but if you have any kind of thoughts on the on the near term outlook here, and then, Tony, maybe a bigger picture question, I don't know. probably not, but there was a Midwest that actually sold its insurance unit for what I thought was a very, very healthy revenue multiple. I know it's a business historically you've been pretty dedicated to and happy with, but just curious about what your thoughts are there, particularly if we're in a position where you your loan growth is good and a little extra capital wouldn't hurt, is that an option you would consider or no? And then just, again, reiterate just any thoughts on the near-term non-interest income guide would be great.

Tony Labozzetta

Analyst

Sure. It's not -- we recognize the value of our insurance entity. However, they're producing somewhere around 40% return on that investment. We don't see this strategy peaking out. I think it can continue to elevate and it's part of our strategic plan to have a greater percentage of our revenue be comprised of non-spread income. So I think it's an important part of our strategic planning direction. And while that's out there, and I'm aware of it, I think it's -- and it's also a great value-add for our customers. So that's something that is entwined in there, and it's very hard to decouple relative to our strategy. So -- while that's out there, I think right now, it's not a strong probability, but just -- you can't ever say no to anything in our business.

Tom Lyons

Analyst

Yeah. I mean we like the diversified revenue stream. We got a 35% EBITDA margin. The business is contributing nicely. I wouldn't…

Tony Labozzetta

Analyst

Touch it.

Tom Lyons

Analyst

Yep. Just to add to that, Beacon Trust, though also had a nice quarter. We see AUM back up to $3.7 billion at the end of the period, $3.6 billion for the quarter. Net new clients of eight, about a 22.5% net margin on that business, too. So also contributing nicely.

Tony Labozzetta

Analyst

Correct.

Tom Lyons

Analyst

As far as outlook with the total non-interest income, I'm probably being a little conservative, but I just kind of pegged at about $20 million a quarter in the near term.

Michael Perito

Analyst

Okay. That's very helpful. Thank you guys for taking my questions, and all the other color this morning. Appreciate it.

Tom Lyons

Analyst

Thanks, Mike.

Tony Labozzetta

Analyst

Thanks, Mike.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is from Manuel Navas of D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Manuel Navas

Analyst

Hey. Good morning. As NIM stabilizes [Technical Difficulty] do you think that NII dollar troughs in the third quarter or more in the fourth quarter? On a core basis, Lakeland will shift things.

Tom Lyons

Analyst

Yeah. Yeah, about everything gets thrown up when the deal closes. But I think fourth quarter is when we were looking for the NII to trough.

Manuel Navas

Analyst

Okay. And then what's the rough cash flows on securities if that's part of the funding profile?

Tom Lyons

Analyst

It typically [troughs up] (ph) $16 million and $20 million a month.

Manuel Navas

Analyst

And with the kind of the movement of the NIM, what do you [Technical Difficulty] NIM trajectory, what are you kind of assuming on through the cycle deposit betas and kind of where non-interest bearing deposit mix ends up?

Tom Lyons

Analyst

Yeah. We're at 25% through the cycle thus far. I think we're assuming something around a 32% for the for the full projection period. Sorry, what's the other question?

Manuel Navas

Analyst

Non-interest bearing deposit mix percentage. Like, where does it kind of settle out? How much more it could cost?

Tom Lyons

Analyst

Probably 24% -- 23%, 24%.

Tony Labozzetta

Analyst

I would agree.

Manuel Navas

Analyst

Okay. That's really helpful. It's probably early. Do you have any thoughts on kind of how the environment may have shifted kind of the combined targets for Lakeland or kind of more to come on that, I guess. But just any initial thoughts on that?

Tom Lyons

Analyst

Yeah. I think it's a little too early to go out there until we get the balance sheets combined and see where the environment stands at that combination date. It would be too speculative.

Manuel Navas

Analyst

Okay. Very fair. I appreciate the comments.

Tom Lyons

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to Tony Labozzetta for closing remarks.

Tony Labozzetta

Analyst

Thank you. Well, thank you, everyone, for being on the call. As we know, these are challenging times, but I feel really confident in the management team at Provident. And I think we'll tackle these challenges head on and outperform. So to that end, we look forward to getting together next quarter and sharing with you our results. Have a good day.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.