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PennantPark Floating Rate Capital Ltd. (PFLT)

Q2 2020 Earnings Call· Tue, May 12, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Good morning and welcome to the PennantPark Floating Rate Capital's Second Fiscal Quarter 2020 Earnings. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen-only mode. The call will be open for a question-and-answer session following the speakers' remarks. [Operator Instructions]It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Mr. Art Penn, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of PennantPark Floating Rate Capital. Mr. Penn, you may begin your conference.

Art Penn

Analyst

Thank you and good morning, everyone. I'd like to welcome you to PennantPark Floating Rate Capital's second fiscal quarter 2020 earnings conference call. Joined today by Aviv Efrat, our Chief Financial Officer.Aviv, please start off by disclosing some general conference call information and include a discussion about forward-looking statements.

Aviv Efrat

Analyst

Thank you, Art. I'd like to remind everyone that today's call is being recorded. Please note that this call is the property of PennantPark Floating Rate Capital and that any unauthorized broadcast of this call in any form is strictly prohibited. Audio replay of the call will be available by using the telephone numbers and pin provided in our earnings press release, as well as on our website.I'd also like to call your attention to the customary Safe Harbor disclosure in our press release regarding forward-looking information. Today's conference call may also include forward-looking statements and projections, and we ask that you refer to our most recent filings with the SEC for important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these projections. We do not undertake to update our forward-looking statements unless required by law. To obtain copies of our latest SEC filings, please visit our website at pennantpark.com or call us at 212-905-1000.At this time, I'd like to turn the call back to our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Art Penn.

Art Penn

Analyst

Thanks, Aviv. First, we hope that you, your families and those you work with are staying healthy and navigating through these challenging conditions. We are pleased to report that PennantPark continues to operate smoothly and effectively and remains committed to working diligently on behalf of our investors.I want to spend a few minutes discussing our portfolio going into the COVID-19 crisis. How we fared in the quarter ended March 31. How the portfolio is positioned in the upcoming quarters, our capital structure and liquidity and the value proposition of our stock, the financials and then open up for Q&A.We believe that our rigorous underwriting process and disciplined approach has successfully positioned us to manage through the challenges ahead. We have an excellent team of talented and dedicated professionals, many with decades of experience managing through multiple economic cycles, to help ensure the best possible outcome in this type of difficult environment.Although, we never predicted a global pandemic, as you may know we have been preparing for an eventual recession for some time. Prior to the COVID-19 crisis, we proactively positioned the portfolio as defensively as possible. Since inception, we've had a portfolio that was among the lowest risk in the direct lending industry, as proven by a portfolio that has had among the lowest yields in the industry.As of March 31, 91% of the portfolio was in first lien senior secured debt with a weighted average yield of 7.8%. The portfolio is constructed to withstand market and economic volatility. As of March 31, average debt-to-EBITDA on the portfolio was 4.2 times and the average interest coverage ratio, the amount by which cash income exceeds cash interest expense, was 2.7 times. This provides significant cushion to support stable investment income. These statistics are among the most conservative in the direct lending…

Aviv Efrat

Analyst

Thank you, Art. For the quarter ended March 31, net investment income was $0.30 per share. Looking at some of the expense categories. Management fees totaled about $5.9 million taxes, general and administrative expenses totaled about $1 million and interest expense totaled about $7.6 million.During the quarter ended March 31, net unrealized depreciation on investment was about $65 million or $1.67 per share. Net realized losses was about $1.6 million or $0.04 per share. Net unrealized appreciation of our credit facility and notes was $0.86 per share. Net investment income exceeded the dividend by $0.02 per share. Consequently, NAV went from $12.95 to $12.12 per share.Adjusted NAV excluding the mark-to-market of our liabilities was $11.10 per share. The decline in NAV was primarily due to a 5.6% average valuation decline on the investment portfolio combined with increased leverage. Our entire portfolio, our credit facility and mains are mark-to-market by our Board of Directors each quarter using the equity price provided by earning dependent valuation firm exchanges or independent of the dealer codes, when active markets are available under ASC 820 and 825.In cases where both at the other quotes are inactive, we use independent valuation firms to value the investments. Our portfolio remains highly diversified with 108 companies across 43 different industries. 91% is invested in first in-secured debt, including 10% in PSSL 3% in second index and 6% in equity including 4% in PSSL. Our overall debt portfolio has awarded yield of 7.8%. 99% of the portfolio is floating rate and about 90% of the portfolio has a LIBOR floor. The average LIBOR floor is 1%.Now let me turn the call back to Art.

Art Penn

Analyst

Thanks Aviv. To conclude, we want to reiterate our mission our goal is a steady stable and protected dividend stream coupled with the preservation of capital. Everything, we do is aligned to that goal and we try to find less risky middle market companies, as a high free cash flow conversion. We gap see our free cash flow primarily in first lien senior secured instruments. We pay out those contractual cash flows in the form of dividends to our shareholders.Closing, I'd like to thank our extremely talented team of professionals for their commitment and dedication, thank you all for your time today and for your investment and confidence in us.That concludes our remarks. At this time, I'd like to open up the call for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And we'll go first to Mickey Schleien of Ladenburg.

Mickey Schleien

Analyst

Yes. Good morning. Art, just in terms of risk assessment – and I'm sorry if you mentioned it in the prepared remarks. But can you give us a sense of what the portfolio's average EBITDA is at this point?

Art Penn

Analyst

The average EBITDA is – Mickey can you hear me?

Mickey Schleien

Analyst

Yes.

Art Penn

Analyst

Okay. Average EBITDA is roughly $35 million to $40 million on average in terms of the average.

Mickey Schleien

Analyst

Right in the middle market level and what trends could you see in the first quarter?

Art Penn

Analyst

Look we had a very strong first calendar quarter. We had a very strong quarter up until the end of March. So, we saw very strong performance across the portfolio going into the COVID-19 crisis.

Mickey Schleien

Analyst

Okay. And in terms of sponsors how would you characterize their behavior in April and in May in terms of helping to support liquidity of your portfolio companies?

Art Penn

Analyst

Yeah. We've seen very by and large good behavior and actions from the sponsors both in doing, what it takes in terms of reducing expenses in terms of shoring up liquidity and managing their liquidity. In many cases, they have cut off their fees that they're earning from these companies. So by and large, and that's one of the benefits you see from kind of a sponsor portfolio, with an embedded equity from the sponsors underneath of us. There's certainly a strong alignment of interest. Going into this the average loan-to-value, was about 50%. So there's a lot of equity beneath us, a lot of support and the actions that we've seen are – have been helpful.

Mickey Schleien

Analyst

Okay. My last question, can you remind me what the target debt-to-equity is for PFLT in a normal market?

Art Penn

Analyst

Yeah. So in the normal market we've been saying 1.4 to 1.7 times. So, here we are at the upper end of that, due to both the mark-to-market as well as the drawing on the revolvers from even many of the underlying portfolio companies. So, we're managing that leverage carefully. There's been some sell-downs at nice prices post quarter end to create additional liquidity, additional cushion and because so much of our portfolio is away from the COVID-19 risk it's a -- we have a bunch of attractive deals. They're both attractive for us, as well as for certain other parties. We haven't had problem finding some nice levels plus quarter end and still we want to create more cushion and more liquidity in the system.

Mickey Schleien

Analyst

Great. That’s good to hear. Those are all my questions. I appreciate your time, and I hope everyone there is safe and healthy.

Art Penn

Analyst

Thank you, Mickey. You too.

Operator

Operator

And next we'll go to Ryan Lynch of KBW.

Ryan Lynch

Analyst

Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions, and hope you guys are all doing well and safe. My first one just has to do with your asset back notes. As we evolve through this process, I think we've seen that the asset-backed notes or securitizations or CLOs for different BDCs, can be seen the most concerning liability tranches because they're not as flexible. They don't work with a banking partner and could come in there and amend them and work with the borrower.So can you just talk about your comfort level surrounding the current covenants whether it's the CCC-bucket or the OC test or any other covenants that you guys feel in those asset back notes?

Art Penn

Analyst

Yeah. Thanks Ryan and that's an excellent question. So with our CLO, we have a 17.5% CCC-bucket. And we have plenty, plenty of cushion now against that. It's something that we're watching and we manage but there is no issues that we see happening with that.The other thing I'll note is that with our securitization in addition to retaining the equity we also retained a Triple B tranche. So it's a less levered. In essence it's a less levered CLO to begin with.

Ryan Lynch

Analyst

Okay. And then what about the credit facility that you guys had in PSS, can you talk about your comfort around that a little bit that's high leverage as well. Can you talk about your gas comfort [ph] with the ability to not have any covenants on that?

Art Penn

Analyst

Yeah. So we have a -- in our joint venture PSSL, we have -- that's again a joint to refresh everyone's memory. That's a joint venture we have with Kemper. The bank there is Capital One. And a syndicate of other banks we've been having great conversations with Capital One, very transparently sharing with them what's going on in the portfolio. And those conversations are ongoing, but we feel very good about the context of that dialogue and relationships. And I think just to take it to a bigger level, I think the banking regulators in the United States, the Fed, the OCC, the control of the currency, we have been very clear with the people that regulate that COVID-19 risks and portfolios that the bank should be very -- should have soft hands, should be working with borrowers and should be giving people room. And certainly as we've been having conversations with all of our banks across the PennantPark platform, we've seen very excellent behavior and backed up by many years of long-term partnership that we've had with them. So good open dialogue. Certainly COVID-19 is having a significant impact on the economy and our banks seem to understand that.

Ryan Lynch

Analyst

Okay. And then I know you guys touched on this earlier and you provided some comments around the gaming industry, you talked about four of your properties or region, no, you don’t have to get on plan, I under some construction slowdown and kind of look into a higher quality investment-grade company. But just can you talk about how those businesses operate? Obviously I would assume that they're all shut down right now producing zero revenues. What is the ability and how can those companies run during a downturn like this as far as cutting costs, increasing the runway to conserve cash for the longer term.And then lastly just what is the ultimate outlook of those businesses in your mind right now? Obviously, it's going to be largely dependent on when the economy opened, but I would think that some of those businesses maybe some of the last ones to be able to be open just because of crowded places that aren't really essentials. So, just any additional commentary would be helpful on that.

Art Penn

Analyst

Sure. So, look I think you hit on all the right points which are -- if you're one of those companies you really cut all your costs to the absolute minimum fixed cost skeletal staff unfortunately means your variable costs such as your employees furloughed or laid off and you are maximizing your liquidity in every way you can maximizing your liquidity and creating several quarters of runway being shut down.And by and large most of them have done that. They harbored their liquidity well. They have kind of cut their ongoing costs to the bare minimum. And based on what we can see they've got plenty of runway to deal with a gradually reopening over time and even when there is a reopening a gradual a gradual increase in traffic.So, we think they've done a good job and certainly since the vast majority of them are regional facilities where the customers are local with them you can get on a plane, we think there as well set up as anybody to deal with a prolonged downtime. So, the playbook is there, they've operated the playbook. Now, we just need to kind of see how things go.

Ryan Lynch

Analyst

Okay. Makes sense. Draw all my questions. I appreciate the time today.

Art Penn

Analyst

Thanks Ryan.

Operator

Operator

And now we will go to David Miyazaki of Confluence Investment Management.

David Miyazaki

Analyst

Sorry about that. So, Art just a question for you. I think way back when you guys elected to market liabilities to market. We had some really great conversations around that. I think one of the central points you made was that if you better align the movement of the asset side of the balance sheet with the liability side of the balance sheet.I think that was something that my recollection is that was very helpful for PNNT during the financial crisis of 2008. So, I was wondering if you could share with us some of the -- maybe details of what the SEC said when they expressed some preference for a cost base mark on your liabilities.I presume that you made a point to them that this was a better alignment of both sides of the balance sheet. So, what was sort of the nature of that conversation?

Art Penn

Analyst

Yes, I'm laughing because these are very quiet conversations and just suffice to say that we really liked the marketing liabilities to market for a lot of reasons including the reduction of volatility and also for SEC asset coverage purposes to the extent you can use it, it's a terrific insurance policy. It's a really -- could be a solution for the broader industry in times of volatility like we're having today.But nine months ago, of course, after using it for a decade the guidance that for the SEC regulatory asset coverage ratio, they would prefer that we do not use it going forward. So, we are not for the regulatory assets. And certainly it's already part of our GAAP financial statements. And the way it works is every time you take down a liability whether it be a credit facility or a bond, you have a one-time option to mark that liability to mark it under GAAP.So, that's what we have been doing until recently using that option under GAAP and until recently GAAP and regulatory asset coverage are virtually the same because you have very calm markets. So, here we are in a volatile market as of 3/31 and for GAAP purposes we mark -- many of our liabilities to market which does the volatility of NAV, but does not does not get taken into account for the regulatory asset coverage test which is kind of why we're now [audio gap]Adjusted NAV per share which takes out the mark-to-market of reliability. So, it makes it complex. I apologize to everybody. It was done with the benefit of intentions of reducing the risk our vehicles when we did it. Today it just makes it more complex from the standpoint of our financials, but we do think there is an underlying logic at of doing it.In terms of the dialogue, I do about had the dialogue, it was attorney dialogue with the SEC and our attitude is when the SEC guides us to do something we should be listening to that. So we are listening to our guidance and we still are in fine shape as you've seen. We'd be in better shape in some sense if we energies, but it is what it is and we will live out the constraints that we're given at this point in time.

David Miyazaki

Analyst

I appreciate that. I know that there's -- it's really a multi-dimensional sort of the data so whether or not the best disclosure is to market or not. But certainly, I think that we now have two different cycles of extreme market or liquidity to show that this can help down in some of the big swings that take place in at least for BDCs and a net asset value.So I guess I was just a little surprised to see what there was in the OR, but of the recognition that there's some retail activity we had in that coming interpretation. Thank you for your comments there.The other question I had was you mentioned -- I think you said that you just make sure is your deal flow and that you have a lot of different opportunities to put capital to work right now that looks pretty attractive. And that's a little bit in contrast to what we've heard from some docs that lend and I guess what you call the upper middle market not the $35 million to $40 million EBITDA. They're probably more in the $75 million to $100 million neighborhood.Where I think the kind of what somebody said there's nothing that's happening when there's some borrowers today can agree on what they are we do. So your comment on the $35 million to $40 million. Is that something that is the market that's lower in the middle market that there's more deafly taking place right now?

Art Penn

Analyst

Just to clarify. So I said I don't know -- I think this was part of my remarks. There really is not a lot of deal flow at this point in time in the primary. So there's not a lot of time deal flow. Certainly, in some of the areas that are completely unimpacted as we've seen in certain contractors, government services, there's a little bit of deal flow. And it's in part, because that sector never really -- that's kind of motoring along. That's a reasonable chunk of our portfolio and there still are private equity sponsors trying to get deals done, but not like there's been a lot of deals done in that space.So there's not a lot going on in the market, but buyers and sellers of companies as well as lenders are trying to figure out where risk-adjusted returns should be for non-COVID impacted companies and things that there is activity, some activities in that space. So it really has been a lot new. There is some secondary opportunities. That we think could be attractive. For PFLT, I think our mission today is really to focus on the portfolio we will selectively and we'll look to selectively make investments that are new, but the bar is high at this point. I think we've just got to kind of focus on our portfolio and kind of make sure we have focused on those portfolio companies first.

David Miyazaki

Analyst

Okay. Thank you for the clarification. Sorry, I got that wrong.

Operator

Operator

And with that, I'd like to turn the call back to Art for any additional or closing comments.

Art Penn

Analyst

Thank you everybody for listening in today. We appreciate and we wish everyone safety and health in these times and we look forward to speaking with you next in August, which will be our next quarter. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

With that ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's call. We'd like to thank you again for your participation. You may now disconnect.