Arthur Penn
Analyst · Ladenburg Investment Bank
Sure. So look, our core market is financial sponsors, middle-market financial sponsors. Where we add the most value is with companies that do between $10 million and $30 million of EBITDA. Once you get kind of $40 million and above, typically there is much more pressure from the broadly syndicated market, in certain cases, those companies do hit the broadly syndicated market. In certain cases, the tone from the broadly syndicated market seeps down into those $40 million, $45 million, even then occasionally $35 million EBITDA companies. So right now, our kind of target market is no market sponsors, companies that do $10 million to $30 million of EBITDA and what as - one of the big drivers of our mission on PFLT is our sponsored clients have been saying to us, gee, we wish you could do a bit - do more, we wish you could help drive our deals, we'd love to allocate more to you, we'd love to give more to you, can you do more than $10 million, $15 million, $20 million, $25 million whatever the number is, as PFLT has grown. And the steps we've taken with MCG, with adding talent in the regions, with the add-on equity offering we did with the JV itself is really just meeting the mission and meeting the ask of our clients. We want to serve those financial clients, assuming we can get really good risk reward. Obviously, that's a given. We want to be a problem solver for them, so they've been the ones driving us to do this. Obviously, we need to do it in an accretive way for PFLT shareholders and we think we can do that, we think the JV really helps us do that, and we may end up doing a second JV down the road. And occasionally, there's co-investments between PFLT, obviously the JV, PNNT, sometimes it meets the mission of that vehicle. We have a credit opportunity fund, sometimes it meets the mission of that vehicle. So between all of our vehicles, we can write some pretty big bite-sizes overall, but we didn't want to maintain really rational, granular diversification on all of these portfolios. PFLT is massively diversified. We want to keep it massively diversified. The JV is massively diversified. We like that safety from the standpoint of diversification. So we think it can be a win, win, win for our shareholders, of course, for our borrower clients, of course, we think you can - this market where we're in, where it's $10 million to $30 million of EBITDA, we think we're in a really good spot.