Operator
Operator
Good day, and welcome to the Pegasystems' Third Quarter 2019 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] I would like to now turn the conference over to Kenneth Stillwell, CFO. Please go ahead.
Pegasystems Inc. (PEGA)
Q3 2019 Earnings Call· Fri, Nov 8, 2019
$36.36
-1.12%
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+0.92%
1 Week
+3.59%
1 Month
+4.95%
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Operator
Operator
Good day, and welcome to the Pegasystems' Third Quarter 2019 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] I would like to now turn the conference over to Kenneth Stillwell, CFO. Please go ahead.
Kenneth Stillwell
Analyst
Thank you. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. And welcome to Pegasystems' Q3 2019 Earnings Call. Before we begin, I would like to read our Safe Harbor statement. Certain statements contained in this presentation may be construed as forward-looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. The words expects, anticipate, intense, plans, believes, will, could, should, estimates, may, targets, strategies, intends to, projects, forecasts, guidance, likely, and usually, are variations of such words and other similar expressions identify forward looking statements, which speak only as of the date the statement was made, and are based on current expectations and assumptions. Because such statements deal with future events, they are subject to various risks and uncertainties. Actual results for the fiscal year 2019 and beyond could differ materially from the company's current expectations, factors that could cause the company's results to differ materially from those expressed in forward looking statements are contained in the Company's Press Release announcing its Q3 2018 earnings, and in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including its annual report on form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2018 and other recent filings with the SEC. Investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance on such for looking statements, and there are no assurances that the matters contained in such statements will be achieved. Although subsequent events may cause our view to change except as required by applicable law, we do not undertake and specifically disclaim any obligation to publicly update or revise these forward-looking statements, whether as the result of new information, future events, or otherwise. And with that, I will turn the call over to Alan Trefler, Founder and CEO of Pegasystems.
Alan Trefler
Analyst
Thank you, Ken. Three Quarters of the way through the year. I'm pleased with the state of the business. We continue to make strong progress in ACV growth and our transition to Pega Cloud. We've been executing on a strategy to increase our sales capacity in response to the large opportunity ahead of us. And I'm pleased with the early returns on the effectiveness of the sales team, as reflected in our pipeline growth. Ken will provide more context on our financials in a few minutes. Now in terms of sort of insights on the market, you know, as you aware, we're seeing lots of disruption around the world with things like Brexit and trade tariffs, and our clients are looking at how to plan for any number of changes they may face. Now, our underlying model driven low code architecture allows for our clients to adapt quickly to change and to really grow their businesses and develop their efficiencies. We continue to see enthusiasm for our software. Now, our digital transformation technology helps organizations establish an operational backbone that can be used equally to either propel top line growth and drive bottom line efficiency shedding unnecessary technology overhead and also making operations and client engagement more efficiently. Pega's Intelligent Automation Solutions optimize operational and employee efficiency. As I said, while our decision and capabilities improve the retention and lifetime value of client engagement by ensuring that right actions or offers are provided at the right time. This ensures not just a great client experience at the moment of outrage, but also the ability to drive preemptive customer service anticipating potential issues, so you can address them when they have a better chance of being mitigated. Now, the market has been interesting because we have continued to see a lot…
Kenneth Stillwell
Analyst
Thank you, Alan. We've executed well through the first three quarters of 2019. Our team delivered solid growth in ACV, continuing to increase new recurring license and cloud commitments. We continue to be excited about the huge market opportunity in front of us. We're executing on our plan to increase selling capacity and go to market resources to better penetrate our target accounts, and early returns show very healthy pipeline growth as we enter Q4. As we continue our transition from a company that largely sold its software on a perpetual license basis to a much larger company that sells mostly on a recurring cloud license basis. ACV growth continues to be the most important metric that reflects the successful execution of our strategy. Total ACV is the sum of recurring PEGA Cloud and client cloud commitments, representing the annualized spend by our clients for subscriptions, term licenses, and maintenance. At the end of the third quarter, our total ACV was $634 million, up $106 million or 20% consistent with our long-term target, Pega Cloud ACV grew 51% the same period. Both of these measures are in constant currency. We continue to transition our business to a recurring model leveraging our market leading cloud choice differentiation. For the first three quarters of 2019, 57% of our bookings were Pega Cloud. Those results are 7 percentage points higher than we originally anticipated. As I explained at the beginning of the year, we plan for Pega Cloud to be 50% of our new commitments in 2019. This 7-point difference in Pega Cloud results has the short term impact of reducing revenue by about $3.7 million for each one percentage point or approximately $20 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2019. Turning to remaining performance obligation, also what we call backlog,…
Operator
Operator
We will now begin the question-and-answer session [Operator Instructions]. The first question comes from Steve Koenig with Wedbush. Please go ahead.
Steve Koenig
Analyst
Okay, great. Thanks. Hi, Pega. Congrats on a solid quarter. Maybe two questions here for you. First one, Ken for you. Spending growth. So are you guys still kind of -- as we look at the numbers that you are kind of targeting mid-teens for the year? Looks like you are substantially above that on in Q3 if I did my numbers, right. Maybe just some color on it. Is there some quarterly variability here? Are you still kind of tracking to the original goals and where -- you know, where you anticipate spending?
Kenneth Stillwell
Analyst
Good question, Steve. So the two -- the two things to think about is our -- our go-to market investment is still on pace, to be directionally in line with what we had talked about, at the beginning of the year, which is investing in the cut of that low 20% range of investment. The one area that we've actually had increased investment year-to-date that is in the in the Pega Cloud, and that really relates to two factors. One is that our Pega Cloud business is higher, is growing at a faster pace in terms of new bookings than we anticipated, and that -- we need to invest for that faster pace. If you think about Pega Cloud, we're investing you know, in advance of the booking and, and the booking doesn't even get us revenue. So there is somewhat of a disconnect on the Cloud gross margin line, because you don't get the revenue but you do need to invest in the business and then secondarily, remember that we got our Pega FedRAMP Certification early in the year, with public sector being a very important part of our strategy, we've ensured that, that we have the right resources to support our public sector clients moving to the cloud, at an accelerated pace.
Steve Koenig
Analyst
Okay. So just to follow up on that, and then I'll ask my question for Alan as well. The kind of what, what you're spending the trajectory here on cloud, as your cloud mix is shifting faster and your cloud revenue growing fast, is that something we should expect to continue? Because as I look at it looks like, you know, isn't really growing up enough next year. And so kind of does that -- does that cloud investment continue? And how long does that continue? And then I'll just ask my question for Alan now, which is about maybe just an update on project Phoenix. Kind of where are we with that? And maybe little color on are we looking to see more multi-tenancy from Pega or some aspects of that? And could there actually be sharing of components or some kind of ecosystem around that in time?
Kenneth Stillwell
Analyst
So, I'll answer your first the first part of your question, Steve, you would see because of the because of the higher growth in Pega Cloud, and the fact that that won't turn into revenue in the short term, but we need to invest for a larger client base, you would expect a little bit of a slower growth in the -- in our track to our kind of terminal gross margin target. So you would see more investment in PEGA cloud in 2020, and that would be commensurate with us having a bigger book of business. So think about the PEGA cloud being tied to the backlog just as much as it is tied to the revenue and so since the backlog is outpacing the growth that we anticipated. And if that continued in 2020, we would expect the investment to continue in 2020 as well.
Steve Koenig
Analyst
Got it.
Kenneth Stillwell
Analyst
And then, I'll let Alan answer for the second part.
Alan Trefler
Analyst
The other thing; I'll just say about expenses, we've decided to work both, for example, get our FedRAMP certification, and we're shortly going to announce that we have IRAP, which is the Australian certification, which we've been approved for. And we're doing a variety of these, being able to go through those does have some short and intermediate term expense, both in terms of going through those processes, and you have to set up and demonstrate that you can do that on an ongoing basis, but also getting people with some different skill sets and clearances that might be necessary to be able to work with those clients that will we would eventually expect will slow down here but you know, I see it for the next at least 6 to 12 months I would think. In terms of Phoenix. I'm very excited. You know when you go when you talk to clients or prospects about yes, what is a major technical change, in a lot of ways, that's almost contrary to where we were really trying to focus on business improvement. But the level of enthusiasm since we had our first introduction in detail in June at Pega World and did the deep dive with about 150 architects from various customers, the feedback from them, and also just a whole variety of sessions we keep having about it, outpaced my expectations. And there's a huge amount of enthusiasm and the whole notion that we can move and our clients can move to just an absolutely state-of-the-art, you know, React-based front end, nodes environment, without having to like rewrite all their applications is exactly the promise of doing things correctly in a model driven way. So there's a lot of enthusiasm. We are building multi tenancy into that capability. So we're expecting to have in effect three levels up. Some customers and smaller ones with lower risk might choose to operate on a general multi-tenant environment, which we would expect, you know, frankly, just higher returns on. Others may want to be multi-tenant for a single client. So for example, all of a single large customer of ours might be on a single multi-tenant system, which provides additional and more secure options. These are the encryption and then we still of course will have customers who will want to operate and will merit operating on a single tenant basis. So we're building it to be able to hit all of those as well of course, continuing the whole vision of which by the way, is being endorsed by the market of client cloud choice, which I think was one of the really smart things we did.
Operator
Operator
The next question comes from Rishi Jaluria with D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.
Rishi Jaluria
Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.
Alright, thanks. Alan and Ken, I can appreciate that you taking my question. Maybe I want to start with -- with the gross margin side, you know, looks like we saw actually negative gross margin from the consulting and training business and cloud gross margins declining a little bit and I understand you know there's obviously investment in cloud pretty aggressively without necessarily having the revenue yet, maybe help me understand, you know, both of these pieces, you know, what, why are we seeing especially if you're offloading more services to partners, why are we seeing services gross margins, you know, now negative, and then maybe what's the path to get from you know, where we are today? Though I believe you said in the past about 65%, cloud gross margin.
Kenneth Stillwell
Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.
So, I'll take that -- I'll take in the order of that. The first is professional services. So we are -- we are having a lot of success, having partners be more involved in our ecosystem, than they historically were years ago and although that is -- although that's a great, you know, kind of force multiplier for us to grow the business, we still do quite a lot of implementation work for our clients. And even though our revenue is taking a hit as more partners are engaged in implementation, there's a lot of precious skill sets that we have at Pega. And we know that we will need those resources in the future as we scale the business. And so there's no knee jerk reaction that we would take to, you know, change the sizing of our teams, because you know, our resources and our professional services team are the best, you know, that are out there and we would think that we would want them or we would want to make sure that they are used to support, you know, sometimes our professional services team members go to work for our clients. So the professional services margin is something that will settle over time as opposed to being something that we would -- we would try to right size quarter-to-quarter. On the gross margin for Pega Cloud, that -- the timeless, the kind of longer term target margin was to be above 70%, actually. The 65% certainly will be somewhere, you know, it will -- it will not be a linear move to 70%, but 65% will be probably a step in that journey. We expected our gross margin to be, you know, honestly a few percentage points higher than where it is right now. But given the scale growth of cloud, the fact that we need to invest in advance, as Alan mentioned, we have not only FedRAMP, we have international cloud environments like IRAP certifications, etcetera, that require us to make sure we're ahead of the game. So some of that investment, we had to kind of pull up a little bit in cloud, it doesn't impact our longer term margin targets. It's more the timing of investments coming on the front end of the cloud growth as opposed to a more linear investment.
Rishi Jaluria
Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.
All right. Thanks, Ken, that's helpful. And then a two-parter for Alan. First just wanted to get a sense of if you're seeing any changes in the buying behavior from customers, and any sort of color you can share on MIA and especially after what you told us last quarter, and then maybe just wanted to get a sense of where you are in terms of the journey to increase your sales coverage, and you know, maybe how far we are in that direction and getting to the ideal sales coverage that you'd want to see? Thanks.
Alan Trefler
Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.
Sure. So one of the things that was gratifying is we saw some resurgence in the MIA. You know, it's a very unpredictable environment we're all dealing with here, but certainly there is strength and a lot of interest, both in the UK but also in some other parts of Europe as well. Relevant to the growing out of the sales team, we're making good progress. We've done a lot of work to, I think, improve our recruitment approach. And that's both in terms of being more effective and engaging candidates. And also, I think, frankly, being really, really quite selective. What I'm excited about on that front, is we're actually finding people who are themselves, for example, making quote at very large competitors, actually now very open about talking to us, and in many cases joining us, and I think that's because they've competed against us. They see we're becoming more effective. And frankly, I think we have a lot going for us in terms of the culture of the business and commitment to client success in a very genuine way. So I would say that we're going to continue to do that and continue to grow that. We did do a big push in marketing spend, as you know, through Q2 and Q3. You know, regarding a lot of these conferences and these events, I'm definitely seeing a return from them. So those are not going to continue to increase even at a proportional race, but we are going to continue them in sort of the style in a way that we're doing them today as we go into next year.
Kenneth Stillwell
Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.
And one thing to add one thing that, Rishi on the question about MIA. If you look at the performance of our sales team with respect to kind of growth in ACV and you look across the world, our performance to kind of our plan has been fairly consistent across the geographies. So using that as one measure, it's not the only measure, you know, it looks like there is demand for our solutions in in all of our major regions.
Rishi Jaluria
Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.
All right, that's all. Thanks.
Operator
Operator
The next question comes from Pat Walravens with JMP Securities. Please go ahead.
Unidentified Analyst
Analyst · JMP Securities. Please go ahead.
Hi, this is Naz [ph] for Pat. Thank you so much for taking my questions. You highlight the success in the federal and I'm just wondering, could you talk about how's the sales motion different there and maybe what your partner's strategy in that sector?
Alan Trefler
Analyst · JMP Securities. Please go ahead.
Can you repeat the sector, I'm sorry.
Unidentified Analyst
Analyst · JMP Securities. Please go ahead.
Public sector, correct.
Alan Trefler
Analyst · JMP Securities. Please go ahead.
So obviously, you're dealing with more partners in the public sector, and the sales are very much linked to having good partners. So our sales teams are engaging both with the ultimate department, but also with the partners as well. We're seeing, I would say an acceleration in that sector. It's very exciting. I would tell you that the growth in the sector has actually been extremely encouraging on a year-to-date basis. So as these guys pursue monetization, we're just a terrific way for them to save money. And for them to also get closer to the citizens. So, partners I think are more enthused, I do think that you're going to see us having a lot of wins in the next year. And if you're coming off the government empowered event, it was just yesterday, it was just awesome. It was extremely invigorating and exciting. And they're even videos that are going to be put up on the website and things will let other people share it. So it's all good from what I see.
Unidentified Analyst
Analyst · JMP Securities. Please go ahead.
Thanks, and maybe just a quick follow-up. Is IPA a popular topic with the federal customers?
Alan Trefler
Analyst · JMP Securities. Please go ahead.
Yes, I think I think desktop and process robotics is a popular topic with absolutely with customers. You know, there's really been a lot of attention paid to that sector. And I think at one point there was a lot of confusion as to whether that was like the cure-all miracle Band-Aid that was going to render everything obsolete. I think customers are getting a lot smarter and understanding better that, you know, their initial, a lot of these companies were selling $5000 and $10,000 deals to enormous companies that, frankly, I would classify as just experimentation. Based on those experiments, we're finding that people have a finer understanding of how if you are going to use robots, you really do need end-to-end process automation system to be able to tie them together. And that's what you need for Intelligent Automation. Just putting Intelligent Automation as a buzzword on your website doesn't do it. So I think the increasing sophistication of buyers, and that very much is true in the federal government as well, is extremely beneficial for us as we continue to compete in the RPI market as well as the DPA market.
Unidentified Analyst
Analyst · JMP Securities. Please go ahead.
That's great. Thank you.
Operator
Operator
[Operator's Instructions] This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Alan Trefler, Founder and CEO; please go ahead.
Alan Trefler
Analyst
Thank you. And thank you, Ken, and thank you to all our investors. Now, we're working hard on your behalf. And we're really excited and got to go back to work now. So, thank you very much all.
Operator
Operator
The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.