Scott Braunstein, MD
Analyst
Good morning, Corey. A few things about spine, I would say, soon after I joined the organization, it was pretty clear from the work the organization was doing that spinal surgeons were just getting up the learning curve in terms of enhanced recovery. And you can now look in the literature and see those enhanced recovery programs starting to evolve. So, from a trial design standpoint, it was very easy to incorporate an enhanced recovery protocol, a multimodal strategy into a spine study. Spinal surgeons won't use epidurals, and so patients typically – well, vast majority don't use epidurals. So patients have pain pretty quickly postoperatively and that's one of the reasons PCA pumps have been so prevalent in terms of their usage. And so moving the spine community away from a PCA pump was just beginning to happen and probably, I would say, two years ago would have been a much harder starting point for us to do a study. I think now that's relatively easy, again, very much in line with that multimodal strategy. The other piece here to remember is that spinal surgeons, very different than recon surgeons, won't use a lot of cocktails. They won't use products that are off-label to treat postoperative pain. And so we also think there's a very clean opportunity here in terms of differentiation. Trial design is more similar than different. We will allow patients to go home, again, now that we've achieved our goal in this first study to show that EXPAREL clearly works for 48 hours and beyond. Here, our goal is to not only replicate the pain and outcome scores that we saw on the PILLAR study, but allow patients to go home after 24 hours and look very carefully at other health outcome measures in that study. So other than that change, the study designs are very similar. In terms of infiltration itself, this is actually a much simpler infiltration technique. What we have to work with a spine surgeon specifically is getting them comfortable with volume and getting them comfortable with using smaller gauge needles. But the actual technique is relatively straightforward, our basic infiltration technique, one or two minor adjustments or protocol standardizations that we're doing just to ensure infiltration of deep muscles and superficial muscles, but otherwise quite straightforward, a little bit of an ability, given whether or not it's a single-level procedure or a two-level procedure. And remember, these are patients that are, many of them have high opioid burden or being very careful about selection into the study in terms of prior opioid utilization. And we think that will maximize our odds of success. So I'll stop there.