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Puma Biotechnology, Inc. (PBYI)

Q4 2018 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 28, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Tim and I will be your conference call operator today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' formal remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Mariann Ohanesian, Senior Director of IR for Puma Biotechnology. You may begin your conference.

Mariann Ohanesian

Analyst

Thank you, Tim. Good afternoon and welcome to Puma's conference call to discuss our financial results for the fourth quarter and full year 2018. Joining me on the call today are Alan Auerbach, Chief Executive Officer, President and Chairman of the Board of Puma Biotechnology; Steve Lo, Chief Commercial Officer; and Maximo Nougues, Chief Financial Officer. After market close today, Puma issued a news release detailing fourth quarter 2018 financial results. That news release, the slides that Steve will refer to, and a webcast of this call are accessible via the home page and Investors sections of our website at pumabiotechnology.com. The webcast and presentation slides will be archived on our website and available for replay for the next 90 days. Today's conference call will include statements about the Company's future expectations, plans and prospects that constitute forward-looking statements for purposes of Federal Securities Laws. Such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties and actual events and results may differ from those expressed in these forward-looking statements. For a full discussion of these risks and uncertainties please review our annual report on form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2018 which will be filed tomorrow and any subsequent documents we file with U.S. SEC. You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date of this live conference call, February 28, 2019. The Company undertakes no obligation to revise or update any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after the date of this conference call, except as required by law. During today's call, we may refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures that involve adjustments to our GAAP figures. We believe these non-GAAP metrics may be useful to investors as a supplement to but not as substitute for our GAAP financial measures. Please refer to our fourth quarter 2018 news release for a reconciliation of our GAAP and non-GAAP results. I will now turn the call over to Alan.

Alan Auerbach

Analyst

Thank you, Mariann, and thank you all for joining our call today. Today Puma reported total revenue for the fourth quarter of 2018 of $71.1 million. Total revenue consisted of product revenue for sales of NERLYNX and license revenue. We are pleased to report that sales of NERLYNX also known as neratinib Puma’s first approved drug have continued to grow since launch. NERLYNX was approved by the U.S. FDA in July, 2017 for the treatment of patients with early stage HER2-positive breast cancer who have previously been treated with a trastuzumab containing regimen. Today we reported net NERLYNX sales of $61.1 million for the fourth quarter of 2018 an increase from the $52.6 million in net sales reported in the third quarter of 2018. In addition, our fourth quarter results included license revenue of $10 million, which represents a milestone payment we received from one of our licensing partners. In a moment, I will turn the call over to Steve Lo, Puma’s Chief Commercial Officer who will provide an update on NERLYNX’s launch related activities and detail our commercial progress in the U.S. to date. As we announced in September, 2018 the European Commission granted marketing authorization for NERLYNX for the extended adjuvant treatment of adult patients with early stage hormone receptor-positive HER2-positive breast cancer and who are less than one year from the completion of prior adjuvant trastuzumab-based therapy. We expect NERLYNX to be commercially available in the European Union this year beginning with our launch in Germany and followed by additional European countries throughout 2019. In collaboration with our licensing partners we also anticipate announcing regulatory decisions on neratinib for the extended adjuvant HER2-positive early stage breast cancer indication in countries outside of the United States and Europe during the first half of 2019. We also look forward…

Steve Lo

Analyst

Thank you Alan. NERLYNX has been in the U.S. market since our FDA approval in July of 2017. Since then thousands of patients have been prescribed NERLYNX. We continued to grow sales in the fourth quarter and look forward to continuing to provide an NERLYNX to more patients. A reminder that during my presentation I will be making forward-looking statements. On Slide 3, as you may recall, our network of six specialty pharmacies provide an NERLYNX directly to patients. The specialty pharmacies conduct benefit investigations obtain a prior authorization approval from the insurance company and then arrange with the patient to ship NERLYNX to their home. We have also had a separate specialty distribution in office dispensing channel where the prescription does not need to be sent to the specialty pharmacy. This helps to facilitate the ability for certain patients to obtain NERLYNX directly from their physicians office, integrated healthcare systems, and also the VA. To allow better access for patients we expanded the distribution channel throughout 2018 and established partnerships with physician networks. As a result, we have continued to see an increase in patients being dispensed NERLYNX through hospitals and physician practices in the specialty distribution network. In the fourth quarter sales in this channel continued to grow and represented as much as approximately 19% of total bottled sold in certain weeks. Later in the call Maximo will review the full financial results, but I will now provide you with the current sales results. On Slide 4, you see quarterly net sales of NERLYNX since FDA approval. As Alan mentioned, our net product sales revenue grew to $61.1 million in the fourth quarter, a 16% increase over the prior quarter. We are also pleased to report full year 2018 net sales for NERLYNX of $200.5 million our first…

Maximo Nougues

Analyst

Thanks Steve. Let me start with a quick summary of our financial results for the fourth quarter of 2018. Please note that we'll be making comparisons to Q3 and Q2 2018, which we believe are better indications of our progress as a commercial company than year-over-year comparisons. For more information, I recommend that you refer to our 10-K, which will be filed with the SEC tomorrow and includes our consolidated financial statements. For the fourth quarter of 2018, we reported a net loss based on GAAP of $30.7 million or $0.80 per share. Our GAAP net losses for Q3 and Q2 2018 were $40.2 million and $44.3 million, respectively. As you may recall, our results for the third quarter of 2018 included a reimbursement from our insurance carriers of approximately $10 million for legal expenses in connections with various lawsuits. In Q4, we reported approximately $9 million of expense for estimated damages that maybe paid pursuant to a jury verdict in a class action lawsuit. On a non-GAAP basis, which is adjusted to remove the impact of stock-based compensation, we reported a net loss of $12.2 million or $0.32 per share for the fourth quarter of 2018. As Alan and Steve mentioned, net revenue from NERLYNX sales were $61.1 million versus $52.6 million for the third quarter of 2018. During December, one of the specialty pharmacies purchased approximately $0.5 million to $1 million of additional NERLYNX, which we believe represented an inventory stocking ahead of an anticipated price increase in January. NERLYNX net sales were $200.5 million for a full year 2018, compared to $26.2 million in NERLYNX sales for 2017. We are pleased that 2018 sales of $200.5 million slightly beat our 2018 revenue guidance of $175 million to $200 million. Our gross to net reduction was approximately 7%…

Alan Auerbach

Analyst

Thanks Maximo and Steve. Since we launched NERLYNX for the treatment of early stage HER2-positive breast cancer, in the third quarter of 2017, we have continued to receive positive feedback from patients, prescribers, and payers. We will continue to move forward with our plans to advance and expand our commercial activities for the balance of 2019 and beyond. This concludes today's presentation. We will now turn the floor back to the operator for Q&A. Operator?

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Alethia Young of Cantor Fitzgerald. Please proceed with your question.

Alethia Young

Analyst

Thank you. Congrats on a solid quarter and guide. One, I wanted to talk a little bit more about the discontinuations and I know you'd been there, a lot of work there to try to help with that process. Would you be willing to kind of characterize what the rate was this quarter and then maybe just talk a little bit more about what do you think has really worked to kind of drive them maybe kind of more combined and even some of the CONTROL based regimen? And my second question is just basically around Europe and you were talking about partnership or go alone. I mean, is there a situation that you would prefer or – what’s kind of the calculus on making that decision around, what you try to do in Europe?

Alan Auerbach

Analyst

Okay. On the first quarter discontinuation, Steve, would you like take that please?

Steve Lo

Analyst

Sure thing. Yes. So as I mentioned earlier, we've had a mix in the channel and so we typically only have visibility on patients in the specialty pharmacy channel. And what's also interesting is these patients may go back and forth. So it's a little more difficult today to track the discontinuations. But qualitatively, what I can say is that we have seen the trend go down for a few reasons. One is as I mentioned, the supportive care voucher program has been extremely helpful. We've been educating physicians a lot more about the CONTROL regimens. And then thirdly, we also have a nurse team in place, which they're out in the field educating the practices. And we also have a nurse support line available as well so all those in general, I think have helped qualitatively.

Alan Auerbach

Analyst

And Alethia, just to add to that. Our understanding is that with any new drug that comes out, the more experience physicians get in using the drug. The better they get it managing the side effects. For example, when Xeloda, capecitabine was first launched people had issues with the diarrhea and hand-foot syndrome and with Afinitor when it was launched. We'd know people had issues with the stomatitis as they use it more they get better at managing it. So our assumption is that that's probably benefiting us as well. To your second question regarding Europe, as Steve mentioned, we are looking at both the opportunities to launch the drug ourself and to establish some type of a partnership or some strategic type of a situation. I think we're committed to doing what's best for the shareholders. And that includes the senior management of the company and the Board of the company. We are always committed to doing whatever is in the best interest of the shareholders.

Alethia Young

Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from line of Paul Choi of Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · your question.

Hi, this is [indiscernible] on for Paul Choi. Just have one quick question. How much of the plans for cash flow profitability of type 2 metastatic utilization in 2019. Thank you.

Steven Lo

Analyst · your question.

Yes. So in terms of the metastatic, our assumption is that we would file the NDA in the first half. I think you said mid-2019 I believe. So June-ish timeframe, I would anticipate that either its a priority review or it's a standard review, either of those would not be completed until 2020. So our guidance and our cash flow assumptions for 2019 do not include any utilization in the third-line setting based on the NALA data.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Yigal Nochomovitz of Citigroup. Please proceed with your question.

Yigal Nochomovitz

Analyst · your question.

Great. Hi, thank you. And congrats on getting to cash flow positive for the fourth quarter and hopefully beyond. A few questions, Alan, are you able to say at this point when you might be EPS profitable, if that's something we could expect this year? And then on the guidance, I hope I heard the numbers right. I think it was 255 to 280. Could you just expand on that a little bit because obviously you guys took a 10% price increase recently in January. And so that would imply that it seems that the guidance is maybe is such conservative. I just want to get a better understanding of what's going into that range. Thanks.

Alan Auerbach

Analyst · your question.

Yes. So Yigal, on your first question on when Puma would be EPS profitable, I don't know that we would be EPS profitable in 2019. Obviously, we have the opportunity to be fully cash flow positive in 2019 with certain assumptions around that. But I think we'll be able to give a little bit better guidance on that on the second quarter call. In terms of your question on the guidance, when we issued our guidance in 2018 of $175 million to $200 million, the first question regard on that when someone saying, well, your guidance looks conservative. And my answer to that was, well, we're much happier to take a conservative guidance and we're more than happy to adjust that, whichever way we need to later in the year. So, you're asking the same question again. And I think it's fair to assume that we are always more comfortable being conservative and that certainly gives us an opportunity to later address that later in the year.

Yigal Nochomovitz

Analyst · your question.

Okay, perfect. And then just to follow-up, could you comment at all as far as how much of the December holiday seasons may have in some respects than a headwind to the $61 million that you reported in the fourth quarter?

Alan Auerbach

Analyst · your question.

I don't know that we have any evidence that the December holidays had any impact, a headwind or a tailwind, I don't think we have any evidence that it was either.

Yigal Nochomovitz

Analyst · your question.

Okay. And then just a few other market dynamics questions, have you seen any shift towards colestipol and away from loperamide? And can you comment on what the percent of patients that might be going beyond 12 months? Thank you.

Alan Auerbach

Analyst · your question.

Okay. So first of all, do you want to take it?

Steve Lo

Analyst · your question.

Yes. So I'll address the first question on a shift to colestipol. So we don't receive any prescription data on the anti-diarrheal. So this will always be anecdotally what we get from the market research, from physicians or what is reported back to us from the physician's office. I would look at it this way, we've been fairly agnostic. The most important piece is we want patients to receive an anti-diarrheal when they receive an earliest prescription. And that's been the main message. More physicians are becoming more aware of the CONTROL data and they see the data for themselves, but we have seen colestipol, budesonide and loperamide used across the board.

Alan Auerbach

Analyst · your question.

And then I would add to that, we applied to FDA to have our label updated. So you'll remember that at the time we got approved, we were only allowed to put in the data on from the CONTROL study and just a loperamide alone arm because at that time that was the only arm, we had a full 12 months of data on. Unfortunately that arm has a very high rate of discontinuations I believe, if I remember the data correctly. The CONTROL study showed that in the loperamide alone arm, the discontinuation rate was somewhere around ballpark 40%. We have – we submitted somewhere around November, December of last year to have the budesonide arm put into the label. And so I would anticipate that sometime probably Q2 or so we would be getting the label updated to include the budesonide arm. We will then follow with the colestipol arm. I think the last data we had on the budesonide arm that we published, I thought the discontinuation rate was, don't quote me on this, but if I remember this correctly, it was somewhere in like the 20% to 25% range or something like that. And obviously shifting to that will help improve the discontinuations as well. So I think that, as we get that data into the label, right now we can't promote it, but as we get that data into the label we’ll be able to promote that. So I would imagine we would start seeing more use of those regimens going forward.

Steve Lo

Analyst · your question.

Yes, this is Steve. On your second question regarding patients who go beyond 12 months. As I mentioned earlier now that we have a larger specialty distribution channel in-office dispensing, it's becoming a little more difficult to track that since some patients move back and forth. I know in the past we reported that there are patients who go beyond the 12 months. That's still happening, but we just don't have the exact numbers behind that.

Yigal Nochomovitz

Analyst · your question.

All right. And just one quick one, I just want to make sure I heard correctly. You gave guidance for the licensing partner revenue $5 million to $20 million. Did I hear that correct? $15 million to $20 million, what was that number?

Maximo Nougues

Analyst · your question.

It’s $5 million to 10 million.

Yigal Nochomovitz

Analyst · your question.

$5 million to 10 million for 2019, okay, thank you.

Alan Auerbach

Analyst · your question.

And Yigal, just there's some other payments that we didn't put in there because it's uncertain on the timing of them. So that number may be conservative. There's certain payments that there are milestones that need to be hit and it's not clear if those are going to come in 2019 or in 2020. So we did not include those milestones in that guidance.

Yigal Nochomovitz

Analyst · your question.

Okay, thanks.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Cory Kasimov of J.P. Morgan. Please proceed with your question.

Cory Kasimov

Analyst · your question.

Hey, good afternoon guys. Thanks for taking the questions. Most were asked, but one I have is, are you able to give us the net active patients by months similar to what you've done in the last couple of quarters as opposed to just the bottle sold?

Steve Lo

Analyst · your question.

Hi Cory. Yes, this is Steve. Unfortunately it's – as I've been mentioning, it's a little more difficult now since we have expanded the specialty distribution channel. And so because of that, we don't receive metrics from the in-office dispensing, regarding actual patients, whether it was a new prescription or even a refill. So because of that high amount of variability and we kept track patients longitudinally, it is very difficult to provide net active patients moving forward.

Alan Auerbach

Analyst · your question.

To just clarify, Cory, so in past quarters, as you know, we had the two channels, right. There's the specialty pharmacies where a prescription is written and then they physically delivered to the patient. And then there's the specialty distribution, which we tend to call the in-office dispensing because the bottle's just given to the patient, right in the physician's office. In past quarters that in-office dispensing was only about 5%. So our ability to say, all right, here's the estimate for the number of active patients, the error bars around that were kind of low. As you heard, we're now seeing a lot, almost 19% going into that in-office dispensing. It creates much larger error bars around those numbers and it makes it more challenging for us to try to estimate the actual number of active patients. So that the bottled numbers is probably the best way to do that. Because we assume every bottle is a patient. Right? I can't understand why someone would get two bottles at once. That's probably the best way to do it.

Cory Kasimov

Analyst · your question.

Okay. Alright. And then I guess just two clarifications, can you repeat what the gross to net was in 4Q and how that compared to 3Q?

Maximo Nougues

Analyst · your question.

So the gross to net in Q4 was 4%, close to 4% sorry. In Q3 it was close to 7%. The explanation for that is we've been using an estimate based on claims history that wasn’t our own, on a similar product. Now that we have 12 months of claims, we can actually go back and see what actually has happened for the last 12 months. And we basically reconcile that in Q4.

Cory Kasimov

Analyst · your question.

Okay. And then my last question is how much did inventory change in the fourth quarter ahead of the January price increase? I heard what you said about the one specialty pharmacy, it was like, up to $1 million, but can you say overall how much inventory changed?

Maximo Nougues

Analyst · your question.

Our estimate – it remained totally flat around the three weeks. I think I mentioned that it is really hasn't changed that much.

Alan Auerbach

Analyst · your question.

Right and Cory, regarding the inventory build from that one pharmacy, which was, I think we set in the range of 500,000 to $1 million. An easy way to look at that is if you say that, the quarter’s numbers was about $60 million, there's 12 weeks in the quarter. So that's $5 million a week. There's basically five business days. That's $1 million a day. So that basically comes down to do somewhere around one day.

Cory Kasimov

Analyst · your question.

Okay. All right, great. Thanks Alan.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Chris Shibutani of Cowen and Company. Please proceed with your question.

Pam Barendt

Analyst · your question.

Hi, this is Pam on for Chris. My congrats on the strong quarter. Do you have an estimate of the average duration of treatment specifically in 2018 and how that might change in 2019?

Steve Lo

Analyst · your question.

Hi, this is Steve. Yes, I will provide a very similar answer because of the fact that we are unable to track patients who start or are in run in the specialty distribution channel it's very difficult to track patients longitudinally and therefore we don't have those duration numbers.

Pam Barendt

Analyst · your question.

Okay. Interesting and maybe just a quick follow-up, do you have plans to look into this or to determine if you're relatively close to the maximum duration you would expect, which would be about 12 months.

Alan Auerbach

Analyst · your question.

Yes. Correct, so I think that that is obviously something we’re looking into, we have a number of programs in place as Steve mentioned, which include, the vouchers, increased awareness of our controlled trial data and then obviously the label updates. So our hope is that whatever the current, median duration of treatment is, we have the opportunity to improve that in 2019. So yes, we are planning on looking into that during this year, especially as we get these new initiatives more rolling, perhaps we can report on that at a later call.

Pam Barendt

Analyst · your question.

Got It. Thanks very much.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Kennen MacKay of RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Kennen MacKay

Analyst · your question.

Hey guys congrats on the clinical and commercial execution on the quarter. First off, I had a quick follow-up on the inventory question, given the four fold increase in the in-office dispensing, where there is some inventory things like the statements around three weeks of inventory on hand, presumably for this channel where we’re a little bit different, can you maybe help us understand a little bit for the entire quarter what the impact of inventory was given in prior quarters? That seems like it was very close to nothing presumably because it was almost all through the spec pharm channel.

Maximo Nougues

Analyst · your question.

So we actually haven't seen the change between channels in terms of the three weeks average. I looked at the last three quarters and what we have reported and again stays about the same. Obviously our sales have increased for the number of bottles and inventory out there it’s – is I think but obviously it’s still out at about three weeks

Alan Auerbach

Analyst · your question.

And Kennen, you remember something there about, it was once zero and now it's three weeks. The inventory was never zero. It is always, I think since we've been tracking this launch, it's always been right around three weeks. We'd never, it would be impossible to have zero inventory.

Kennen MacKay

Analyst · your question.

Maybe just more broadly, I was wondering, given the very impressive growth we thought from Q3 to Q4 sort of, if you could elaborate a little bit on, commercially any of the differences that we've seen this quarter versus for instance, the prior quarter fit much more the in office dispensing and the impact of additional use of prophylactic Imodium or other anti-diarrheals in new patient starts. Thank you.

Steve Lo

Analyst · your question.

Yes, this is Steve. So there were a few drivers this quarter that we certainly noticed. Number one, we had very strong of the patients that we track who were able to refill. We tracked an increase in refills and especially pharmacy channels. So that was one driver. The second driver, as you mentioned, included the growth in the in office dispensing and the specialty pharmacies didn't suffer from that because they also grew as well. So I believe that that was certainly some very good demand driven there. And then I also highlighted the fact that, our high performing regions have continued to perform, but we're now seeing some of the lower volume regions, start to grow as well. And I believe that, I think with new personnel in place as well as physicians being more educated with better access, their understanding not only the efficacy but also the ability to manage side effects.

Kennen MacKay

Analyst · your question.

Thanks Steve. Congrats again. Really impressive commercial quarter.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Michael Schmidt of Guggenheim Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Michael Schmidt

Analyst · your question.

Thanks for taking my questions. I had a few, maybe, maybe first, Alan around the potential launch in Europe this year. How should we think about operating expenses going forward? Maybe, thinking off the fourth quarter, 2018 run rate in terms of how much additional infrastructure build out might be necessary.

Alan Auerbach

Analyst · your question.

So Michael, building a sales force in Europe is very different than building one in the United States, because obviously when you build one in the U.S. you have to go all 50 states at once, whereas in Europe, you kind of go country by country, right. And you can't launch in a specific country until you get reimbursement. The only one you can launch in is Germany. Right. Which is obviously it's not as big as the United States. Obviously it's much smaller. So you tend to have, rather than having, a huge number of expenses up front, like you would have in a U.S. launch, it tends to be more protracted over time. So, I think that, on our second quarter call when we start giving a, guidance for European sales, and give a little more clarification on our path forward, I think we will be in a better position to do that. But again, I wouldn't anticipate that the cost of a build out in Europe with 2019 would be something that would be similar to what we did in the U.S. it's just a much smaller, and longer term type of build.

Michael Schmidt

Analyst · your question.

Makes sense. And then how should we think about pricing assumptions in Europe and potentially rest of the worlds as well.

Alan Auerbach

Analyst · your question.

Yes, I don't know that we're in a position to give that yet. I would rather wait until we’re a little more mature in our decisions on Europe and then we can give it at that time.

Michael Schmidt

Analyst · your question.

And then, maybe one more question on sales dynamics in the fourth quarter. And I understand that, a lot of that has been driven by refills and maybe a decrease in discontinuation of better compliance rates, but could you help us understand maybe a little bit more how your patients new starts are trending relative to earlier in the year?

Steve Lo

Analyst · your question.

Yes, this is Steve. We did see an increase in new patient starts right in January. So, that's the least, encouraging and that's really essentially what we've been tracking.

Michael Schmidt

Analyst · your question.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Thomas Smith of SVB Leerink. Please proceed with your questions.

Thomas Smith

Analyst · your questions.

Hey guys, thanks for taking the questions. Just on the number of prescribers you've reached, I think you mentioned that you've, now detailed about 68% of your target. Can you give us a sense of how many of the physicians you've detailed are, I guess what you would call active prescribers of NERLYNX or maybe give us a sense of how many of those prescribers have yet to write a prescription for NERLYNX.

Alan Auerbach

Analyst · your questions.

Yeah, so with regard to, so again, the physicians who we've detailed means that our sales reps have met with them. It doesn't mean they are prescribers, the numbers in that graph are just the ones our sales reps have met with, not the ones that, actually have prescribed the drug. I would say that a rough estimate is that I think we're looking at over 60% of them have become prescribers. So, obviously there's still a lot more to move there. There is a lot more on the needle to move there in terms of new prescribers. So there is obviously still a very nice opportunity for new prescriber growth.

Thomas Smith

Analyst · your questions.

Right. Okay, that's helpful. And then also could you give us a sense, I guess within these physician practices, it sounds like you're gaining better access to, what's your sense for how much drug these physician practices are keeping on hand in their office to dispense?

Alan Auerbach

Analyst · your questions.

Yes, I think we already commented that the inventory levels at – through the in-office dispensing is the same inventory levels as in the specialty pharmacies. So those two inventory levels appear to be the same.

Steve Lo

Analyst · your questions.

Yes. And this is Steve. I'll also add that, because the wholesale acquisition price of this product is over $12,000 per bottle, the way that the officers have their agreements with the specialty distributor, typically they can order and receive product within 48 hours. So there really isn't a huge incentive for them to be storing a lot of product in the practice.

Thomas Smith

Analyst · your questions.

Okay, great. That's helpful. Thanks guys.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Yigal Nochomovitz of Citi Group. Please proceed with your question.

Yigal Nochomovitz

Analyst · your question.

Thanks. I just had one follow up related to the inner play of the adjuvant market and the metastatic market. And I know you only got the NALA data I think December 17, so probably didn’t impact the fourth quarter. But just curious, what have you heard in the channel checks as you speak with physicians about the interest in neratinib in adjuvant given now that there's a second Phase 2 trial was just shown meaningful disease control? Is that creating a tailwind for adjuvant market or is it not really a topic of discussion as you see it?

Alan Auerbach

Analyst · your question.

I don't know that we've seen any impact yet of that. Now again, you're right, we just announced it in December. It's only been a month and a half or so. I don't know that we've heard any feedback regarding that yet.

Yigal Nochomovitz

Analyst · your question.

Okay, thanks Alan.

Alan Auerbach

Analyst · your question.

Sure.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Mariann for closing remarks.

Mariann Ohanesian

Analyst

We appreciate your interest in Puma Biotechnology. As a reminder, this call may be accessed via a replay of the webcast@pumabiotechnology.com beginning later this afternoon. Thank you for your time and attention today.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference call. This concludes our program. Everyone have a great day. You may now disconnect.